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Hi! My name is Mike and I like electric scooters.
Apollo Phantom 2.0 revealed! The SUPER PHANTOM!
The web page for the all new Apollo Phantom 2.0 is live! Let's go for a ride and talk about it!
UPDATE: Since this video came out, Apollo has announced that LUDO mode will be FREE for both base and stellar models!
SUPER PHANTOM web page:
apolloscooters.co/pages/phantom-2-0
Phantom 2.0 Keynote: czcams.com/video/LIXyvW6avMY/video.htmlsi=nCW6Gnda5q3OWK2o
#electricscooter #rideapollo #apollophantom #phantom2 #superphantom
UPDATE: Since this video came out, Apollo has announced that LUDO mode will be FREE for both base and stellar models!
SUPER PHANTOM web page:
apolloscooters.co/pages/phantom-2-0
Phantom 2.0 Keynote: czcams.com/video/LIXyvW6avMY/video.htmlsi=nCW6Gnda5q3OWK2o
#electricscooter #rideapollo #apollophantom #phantom2 #superphantom
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Sunset ride on the Apollo Phantom - Part 2: The trails
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Join me in another ride-along video on my Apollo Phantom electric scooter. I ride through some light forest trails, as well as some parks and neighborhood paths.
Sunset ride on the Apollo Phantom - Part 1: To the trails
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Join me for another ride-along video on my Apollo Phantom electric scooter. I stick mostly to bike paths on my way toward some light forest trails.
Is the Apollo Phantom V4X worth it?
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Let's talk about the updates on the Apollo Phantom V4X. #electricscooter #rideapollo #apollophantom #phantomv4x
Evening ride on the Apollo Phantom
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Chill evening ride on my Phantom. #electricscooter #rideapollo #apollophantom
Apollo Phantom 2023: Top 3 Pros and Cons
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Let's talk about my top 3 pros and cons of the new Apollo Phantom 2023! 0:00 - Intro 0:52 - Mach 1 Controller 2:26 - Customer Support and Warranty 4:11 - Upgrade Kits 6:30 - Fulfillment Delays 7:12 - Too Much Scooter 7:45 - Aging Platform 10:58 - Bonus: Scoot Scoot Fridays 11:54 - Final Verdict #electricscooter #rideapollo #apollophantomV3 #apollophantom2023
Apollo Phantom 2023 Secret Changes from the V3
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The latest batch of Apollo Phantoms, which they're calling the Phantom 2023, have some significant changes from the previous V3 version that have not been talked about very much. In this short walkthrough, I look at 4 big changes. 0:00 - Intro 0:11 - Brake and throttle placement 1:55 - Neck brace 2:40 - Fender brackets 3:18 - Controller cut-out 4:05 - Outro #electricscooter #rideapollo #apollop...
I currently own a Segway Ninebot F2 pro but its speed disappoints me so im planning on getting the Apollo Phantom v4x but I cant decide whether to get the Nami Klima instead. However I hate the Nami Klima's wire management. It really gets on my nerves seeing wires dangling around. Can someone please recommend me a good scooter in the range of $2300 which has bluetooth app control, speeds over 50 km/h, and a good amount of range?
I juat got my V4X and i notice the battery drains super fast when in sport mode. Anyone else find this to be the case??
Doesn't resemble the Phantom line at all but does look a lot like a Pro spinoff except for 11" wheels instead of 12". Hopefully a little cheaper than the Pro otherwise why bother?
Does this have the full 360 lights like the pro does?
Apollo super phantom Apollo Super Duper phantom Apollo phantom ultra
Where do you even see the ludo in app purchase prompt?? The phantom 2.0 page is stating that it comes with ludo. There's no area that says that ludo is an in app purchase.
Wasn't that long ago that Apollo deserted their 60 v phantom owners. Lol.
Kinda pissed! Was inquiri g if they had a 50 mph scooter possibly coming, and got no info so i bought the pro 3 weeks ago and havent even rode it yet
let me know if you wanna sell the pro in the future.
Nice video. Thanks. I bought Apollo's V4 Phantom about four months ago. Love it. Except to say; I really didn't appreciate the countless emails from them two months later saying I should buy their V4x with tubeless tires and so on. And Now, a few months later they are email blasting me to buy their latest 2.0!? Kinda like rubbing my nose in the fact that I have given them just over $2k Cdn for a soon to be obsolete item. No offers of buy backs, no upgrades, no trade-ins, nothing. Apollo is a fine young company, but I sincerely hope they can further develop their understanding of the unwritten customer contract. “Customers are my company's highest producing sales force”
UPDATE: Apollo announced that LUDO mode will be FREE for both base and stellar models 🎉 🎉 See the Phantom 2.0 keynote here: czcams.com/video/LIXyvW6avMY/video.htmlsi=nCW6Gnda5q3OWK2o
I haven't heard anything about 'find my' being something with extra cost. I't be nice if you would clarify that here too.
We love your videos! 😄
SUPER BS I SAY.....SCOOTER FOR WOKE ZOMBIES...
It's stupid...Same money u get 72v 50amp on basic scooters wat a rip off.
If I'm paying $3,000+ for an e-scooter I want hydraulic disc brakes not one drum brake and regen braking which every scooter has
Manual disks for the regular model, hydraulics for the Stellar. And all Apollo scooters, including this one, have VERY good regeneration brakes.
@@BorealisNights that's my bad I was thinking it was the Apollo Pro 2024 which costs $3,300 and it has drum brakes with the regen braking throttle. It goes 44mph like my Kaabo Wolf Warrior X Plus 2024 and it has hydraulic disc brakes and EBS! Any e-scooter that goes that fast needs hydraulic brakes I don't care if it has a regen breaking throttle or not especially when you're paying that much money. It's crazy that their most expensive scooter has drum brakes.
@@The_Cannabis_Connoisseur Lol... coincidentally, that's my ride, although you might call mine the 2023 PRO, as I ordered way back when it was still only available through IndieGoGo(although I didn't receive it until January this year, it is actually different from the '24 model in that it included the iOT and the Charging mount in the price, and the '24 has the beefier stem latch and revised deck tape preinstalled, although those were also sent to me free of charge). I can't say I have an issue with the drum brakes, as they also engage the regen brakes when the drum levers are pulled(no need to try and hit the brake 'throttle' while also grabbing a handful of lever)... So, for example, if I want a quicker stop than regen alone, applying even just one drum, also engages both the front and rear regen. Even then, I only have my regen set at level 6 out of 10, as I find that to be plenty of brake for comfortable stops, saving the levers/drums with simultaneous regen for the more 'intense moments'. lol. Happy, and safe riding!✌🏼🇨🇦
Hmmmm..... Apollo are quickly turning into the 'Apple' of the scooter world which is both a good thing (premium build quality & smooth OS experience via their App) yet it can have the opposite effect to turn potential & loyal customers away for the premium pricetag that comes along with it. Paying for services AFTER dishing out a hefyy pricetag? Sounds very Apple Subscription (Music, TV +, Arcade) like. Perhaps that is coming ??? I am now a little hesitant to start saving for the Phantom 2.0 or lets face it now Pro & Pro MAX! I just hope they (Apollo) continue along the 'Samsung' pathway to push boundries in innovation just as Samsung did in the early smartphone wars with innovative developments. Please Mac... do NOT go all Tim on us then lose your Johnny (Eloi) and ruin it for the pure Apollo fan boys out there (ME included)
You hit the nail on the head.
I have the V4. had it for a month now. It lives on LUDO mode, in fact I've never taken it off LUDO since unboxing. I have my reasons but it handles like a champ! the only CON I would say about the scooter is the HUD screen, its very weak and breaks super easy. I only had my V4 Phantom for 2 weeks, while riding I had to stop immediately during a normal riding session and I had to brake really hard at the moment, and I usually lean back every time I brake but this time I leaned into it and I bumped the HUD screen with my zipper on my jacket and the screen cracked and doesn't work anymore. Luckily the app is very responsive and works great so I just mount my phone on the Phantom but still...paid $2+k for this guy and the screen broke so easily. Other than that I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! Handles great in the city and I over take most cars when the light turns green and keep up with city traffic (30-40mph). ALWAYS WEAR A FULL FACE HELMET! All in all its a 8.9 out of 10 for me. Cons are the screen and LONG charge time but PROs are it's built like a TANK, rides extremely smooth and is extremely responsive. So far my tires are holding up for city road traffic. It's worth the money but get a phone mount because you will break that weak built screen!
get ready to pay to use ludo mode
There should be an upgrade of the battery for the v4x from 52v to 60v
What's better about the new throttles? Thinking about the upgrade myself.
The next Phantom is the Phantom 2.0 and it looks like the Pro. I saw it, but with a 60v and top speed at 50mph.
I seen that .. any idea when it's coming out ?
@@Funkadelick I think is for next year.
I like the minimal lighting as it makes it more stealth kinda like its name implies, Phantom. If my daily route took me through sketchy areas I might not want to draw attention. If I want more light I could always wear headlight.
Thanks for the ride Mike. Your phantom certainly works well on those rough trails.
Apollo please tell me you're going to finally surprise us 60v owners with a Mach Controller upgrade path?? 😂 We've been feeling left out and have been holding onto that little glimpse of hope you'd figure it out. With your new 60v version about to release. Please tell me you have! Us 60v owners are out here willing to jump on an upgrade path.
mach 3
I'm a 60v v2 Owner and b longing for the upgrade...😢
Where did you get the led strip on the stem
It should be the Super Phantom and the Super Phantom GHOST! Lol
Sounds like the new Phantom's are not going to really be a Phantom. They are just going to be another expensive super scooter, which there are already plenty to choose from.
That's true just get emove cruiser v2 I would say to anyone cheap price not 2K, or 3 thousand pounds. But Emove cruiser v2 is around 1 thousand 400 pounds good price but not super expensive. Better range this scooter and even better top speed and better design, and being able to modify it and more easy to repair. I'd go with emove cruiser v2 any day for this expensive junk!
Expensive junk and emove has better design? What are you even talking about lol
Where did you get that stem led and how did you wire it?
Thanks for the news, I love the look of the blacked out V4x and older phantom look. Not a huge fan of the 2.0 orange accents that look like the current A Pro. Im gonna wait for the perfect sale to grab the V4x while its still being sold. Really want to upgrade from my ole reliable segway ninebot g30lp with over 6200kms, want suspension and more range/speed
awesome!
I've got a 2023, V3 Phantom, put 4400kms on it so far, am I alone in this opinion - there's no way LUDO is that dramatic. With throttle set to 10, if you switch on LUDO, the boost isn't that big of a deal. My Apollo app keeps crashing every time I come to a complete stop - it just has this dumb "awesome" button telling me how much $ I saved by riding that day. Apollo app constantly has to be force-stopped on Android, otherwise it just eats at my phone battery. I like your upgraded throttle/regen levers. Almost ordered new ones today, but I think I'll wait til spring & just upgrade. I hope the '25 Phantom is available then! Keep those tires inflated to ~50psi! No flats on mine so far!
Can you please check which app version you have and let me know? This should not be happening... Your SN and email would be appreciated too to help with the diagnostic
@@eloipecquet v 3.13.1914 . I just don't use it anymore, no harm done. I'll try it every major update or so to see how things are going, but other than showing me a signal light status, I don't really need it. I uninstalled/reinstalled it a couple of times this past year & always have to force-stop it, so it's not really worth the battery drain for me. The new design is pretty, but I know the Phantom better than the app does at this point. Speed, signals and which gear I'm in isn't exactly a lot to remember. Turning off the scooter without ending the ride thru the app will prevent the ride from being stored, I found that odd. A basic LOS should just store whatever's buffered. 1 = Eco. 2 = throttle max, regen max 3 = same as 2. (I understand throttle adjustments can't be unique in gears 2 and 3, due to hardware limitations). I don't know why anyone would limit their speed in ANY gear, unless for legislated speed limits like in the U.K. Limiting throttle response is far easier when trying to conserve battery. Cruise control, IMO, is too dangerous on scooters. My unpopular opinion so I don't push it.
Thanks for letting us Know. I was about to by a Phantom V4X but I think I'll wait for the Super! Also, where did you get that light?
Looks like the 2.0 will start shipping Q1 of next year. So if you're willing to wait, it will be a serious upgrade from the V4X! Here's the LED strip I used: www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CY8DVTQ5?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@@ScootWithMike My hiboy pro max will have to hold me for now. Although I was looking forward to the upgrade.
Does the V4X have the split rim design?
I think they have the same tires as the pro.?
No more split rims on the V4X. It's to allow tubeless tires.
Just picked one up. I’ve contacted Apollo themselves about the restricted top speed of 60kmph. I also tried factory reset a couple times but, still now help 😢. Is there any way to get it to 66 like they advertised?????
I want to buy the Apollo Phantom but I have size 14 feet and the deck looks narrow...will it fit and will I be able to ride it comfortably? I see by watching other riders that you kinda need to have your feet touching each other to make it work.
Take a look at this video, where the reviewer has size 13 shoes: czcams.com/video/IgIsDLvnaDY/video.html&si=0BxPWBXZzkCwLhKp
oh fuck no man. Im 6'2" 240 and its perfect, IDK about deck width, I think the phantom is one of the wider decks out there.. .but I have size 12 feet and there is lots of room. The only thing I find is that, im more comfortable with my front foot pressing up against the stem, and my rear foot on the rear "footbar" or whatever you call it, especially when going 50km or over. the deck is roughly 8 1/2" x 22"
Does anyone know if it is possible to add blinkers on the sides of the handlebars on the Phantom?
Check out this video, where @RK9Rides reviews some bar-end turn signals: czcams.com/video/6xftPBwRfyM/video.html&si=B3ICW6SJGeUuCbOT
A replacement battery is half the cost of the scooter at $1000 and they are super finnicky and need to be charged very carefully. Highly prone to catching fire and if they do, KACHIIING!
Lol
Can tell u never changed a tire wen u say u said they changed split rim..yayy...u got no idea 😂 tubeless aint immortal...your learn the hard way..
Is the riding deck narrow? I'm 6'4" and weigh 250 pounds and I wear size 14 shoes, will it be able to fit on it?
"You can ride over a whole box of nails for fun" 🤣 - nice review of the Phantom
Hello Mike, may i know what kind of rearview mirror you using? Does it mounted into the handle bar? Tia
It's just something simple like this. I might replace it at some point, but it works ok for now! a.co/d/chcp691
I have a V3 Phantom, have a little over 3600kms on mine. 10 mins of maintenance weekly & mine feels brand new. Range is surprisingly good, but that could be because I'm getting more creative with using ECO mode. I'm hoping I can upgrade my V3 to the tubeless tires & improved throttle/regen levers & enjoy peace of mind while I save up for the Apollo Pro I've been hoping to get. I've been considering other brands/models, but I continue to find that proper maintenance of my Phantom has kept it working great. I absolutely hate changing tires, having pinched so many tubes - but I'm so in love with the dedicated regen thumb lever, I don't ever want to squeeze brake pads over a disc again - unless it's in emergency. If the V4x was available in IP55, I'd get it before a Klima - even with some of the old-scene hardware. Plus, I know these things are built in China, but I still like to support a fellow Canadian company when I can. Appreciate your review, I had no idea about the V4x - of all the spam I get from Apollo, the stuff that would make me shove my money at them is kept quiet. The tires with tubes, the weak headlight and the dim LED screen are all features of an outdated design.
What kinda maintenance you doing?
My sister has the klima max and it's stupid fast. It beats my dualtron thunder 3 to 30mph
@@CountGlizzy I tighten every bolt I see. I open the stem and tighten those bolts. I put white lithium silicone on the stem, suspension & hubs. I fill the tires to 50psi every day before riding. I tighten the lugs that hold the wheels on. The bolts that hold the silver rims on - tighten those often! They will be loose, even with blue loctite. Before storing it in the winter, I clean it thoroughly - using an old toothbrush for the shock springs, etc. Just rolled over 4020kms this morning. Still getting ~30kms out of 50% battery with only partial eco mode. The battery often lasts longer than I find it comfortable to stand for. An hour of aggressive riding is about all I like to ride at once. It's only been in heavy rain once, light rain 3 maybe 4 times.
@@thomasK411 My brother has the Klima, and it's a totally different scooter than the Phantom (he has the same Apollo Phantom as I do and the Klima). Klima sounds great, but I'd miss the dedicated regen.
@NunchucksHabit fair enough. The torque and acceleration is the why I'm getting a klima. I had an apollo ghost and it was fast. I just want alot more acceleration, which the klima has.
what rear view mirrors did you end up going with ? i just ordered my scooter and im looking for some accessories.
It's just a simple one, similar to this. It works alright: a.co/d/ivKa59L
I used to have just one, on my left, but even with makeshift mirror-stem suspension, I found it rattled too much. I found small wing-mirrors too small, and big ones just got in the way with parking or accidental tipovers. I was hoping there'd be a solution where a GoPro with anti-shake tech could be mounted in the rear & transmitted real-time to a smaller screen on the dash, or even to my cellphone, which could act as a secondary LED screen. That way you'd have a constant, steady, wide-angled, live view of the back.
Amazing ride! We're glad you are enjoying the Phantom🛴
Hey there. I've been looking to upgrade. I currently have 2 I scooter i8 for me and my daughter. Obviously entry level but great fun on a flat surface with 15mph. This looks like a nice replacement for me. Also looking at the I scooter ix4 800 watt which is only £499. And packs just about the speed I need ince i remove the speed limiter as I am 110kg. The law here in Britain is we can only ride them on private land which is a wee bit sad as they are great for family fun rides. Thanks for the video ✌️
Yeah I heard that the laws there are pretty strict. Too bad, because it's a super fun way to get around, and takes another car off the road!
So they took away split rims That make changing these tires extremely easy?? You gonna get a pinch plate eventually and it's gonna be a choir to change it.
I haven't had to change a tire yet, but you're right that it will be a lot easier with the old style split rims. However, a lot of people seem to prefer the self-healing tubeless style, and it looks like most high end scooters are going that way now.
Apollo v4x vs nami klima? What are your thoughts on which to get?
I often think about the Klima and if I should have gone for that instead. I actually do quite a bit of forest trail riding, so that's big points for the Klima's superior suspension. But I'm so used to the smooth regen throttle on the Phantom, I think it would be really hard to give that up. Also, in my experience, Apollo customer service has been great to work with. I know you see a lot of bad stuff online, but I have not had that experience.
I have just over 3600kms on a Phantom V3 & the #1 thing that puts the Klima over Phantom V4x is that you can ride it in the rain. Klima is also considerably faster accelerating, but ultimately around the same top speed. My Phantom accelerates up any hill I point it at, and I'm 200lbs + often heavy knapsack. Nami is the best production scooter in the industry right now, but they also haven't changed much at all in 3 years. Apollo's gone through LOTS of change, innovation & improvement. You have to get good at routine maintenance to keep the Phantom quiet and reliable, but I'm talking basic stuff like tightening every possible bolt and lubricating suspension/stem joints to keep them from squeaking. I'm not sure how bright the LED screen is on the Klima, but its headlight is 2k lumens - twice as bright as the one on the Phantom. The LED screen of the V3 Phantom is basically invisible - totally invisible - if you're wearing sunglasses - and its headlight is "be seen", not "see in the dark". I don't judge it on that though, I bought an extra headlamp for nighttime riding - but the difference in getting noticed is very obvious if you turn your headlight on all the time. It activates daytime brake lighting too. We often have to get into traffic, especially in intersections, and our visibility from behind isn't great without improvements. Klima weighs about the same. Klima's range is also considerably better - allegedly. Two drawbacks of the Klima, though: 1) Klima has regen braking but it isn't dedicated - it's incorporated into the regular brakes. I put hydraulic brakes on my Phantom for peace of mind - the regular disc brakes on a Phantom are nothing short of awful. I use my dedicated regen braking (has its own vertical lever) 100% of the time. Crank the regen settings to '10' (100%) and braking is FAR superior for PLANNED stops - but note that immediate, unplanned emergency stops are NOT effective with regen braking. Always have a very healthy set of hydraulic brakes to rely on in emergencies. I can't stress enough how, once you get used to it, just how good the dedicated regen is. I stop far later than I would with hydraulics due to the smooth buildup of non-skid braking power in both wheels - with no disc wear. I'm on the same set of brake pads (on their first adjustment, even!) for over 3000 kms. 2). Klima's battery is not UL Certified. For most places in Canada, a UL certification will not guarantee your landlord will allow your scooter to be stored & charged in your apartment - but it will certainly help convince them & their insurance companies that your battery is NOT on the list of dangerous batteries re-furbed or sold as new by shady "burn & re-sell under a different tax #" companies. With the snap of his fingers, a landlord could tell you you're not allowed to have an E-scooter in the building, nor can you keep it in your car or parking space. Preemptively informing them your scooter is UL Certified can be the difference. Not a drawback but it is to me - I don't like the archaic 'trigger' throttles like the Klima. I much prefer the vertical paddles for throttle + regen. IP55 rating & better range of the Klima is a huge plus. Dedicated regen of the Phantom is a huge plus. It's a tough call for me, not sure if my indecision adds to yours or if it helps...but I'm happy to answer questions.
This really needs a new display
Try to read it in sunlight, it's so dim. With sunglasses, you see nothing. Sucks when you're trying to determine whether the signal lights are still on/off.
Neck brace
Wish all the phantom scooters were built the same my v3 never got that
The only improvement on the x is new tires the v4 when forst launched i have a screen shot if u would like to see had the v8 throttles I owm the v8 throttles and new motors for my v3 The new tires are going ro be a nightmare
I remember Apollo saying the V4 would have the new V8 throttles, but lots of people who ordered the V4 got a scooter with the old throttles. I think there was a lot of confusion around the throttles.
I'm so glad I never bit the bullet on a phantom.. They look the beast I'd want, but seem to have a few cracks that aren't going away. Plus that battery replacement should be much lower considering it's gel technology, and not lithium
@@ScootWithMike Now I officially have no idea what to even ask for. I've got a v3, bought in June '23, and I want the most updated throttle/regen levers. Do I ask for "V8" throttles? Nothing on their site even hints at "upgrade your scooter". Not even a hint. Whoever does their website, has made it a disjointed mess.