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How does a guy who put up almost the same stat line as Peyton Manning after 5yrs and throws less picks than Manning do not get to the playoffs. They even have similar 3rd down conversion rate and redzone qb rating numbers. The answer is no run game, inconsistent coaching and defense, bad kicking and when you the only way you win is on the arm of the qb, the qb will take more risks. Manning had Edgerin James who led the league in rushing and didn't have to face a prime Brees, Cam and Ryan all on Super Bowl contending teams like Winston had to.

Things around him were inconsistent from his kicker, to TE OJ, to his left and right tackle play and even Evans would make great plays but then have easy drops. They were the most penalized team that year and Winston led them in rushing many games. Brady brought experience and demanded consistency. It help to add Wirfs and Succop.

Here is a little context regarding Winston's career: *From 2015-2018, the Bucs defense was tied for 1st in the league in points allowed in losses while the offense was 4th in points per game in losses. *The 2014 Bucs won 2 games and then go on to win 6 games in 2015. Then in 2016, they won 9 games. *In 2017, Winston was knocked out of 2 games and missed 3 due to an AC Sprain. The 11 games that Winston start and finished, the Bucs went 3-8, with with 5 of those losses being due to either the defense giving up a score with less than a minute left (3), the game going to OT and the opposing offense scores on first drive (1), and one where the kicker misses a game tying FG (1). *In 2018, he started UGLY, which got him benched. When Fitzpatrick eventually lost the job, Winston finished the last 7 1/2 games of the season as one of the most efficient QBs in the NFL. But it also exposed how bad their O-line and run game really was (anyone watching would have know that though) *In 2019, all people know is "30 interceptions" but what they don't know is special teams and defense lost them 4 games (Giants, Saints, Seahawks, and Falcons). The notion was the turnovers were why they didn't make the playoffs but anyone that watched that season would know the majority of Winston interceptions came in 4 games that season. We never talk about the other 12. Even with those turnovers, the 2019 Bucs should have been an 11+ win team. *Jameis issue as a Saint became health. When healthy, Jameis was 6-2 for us, while being one of the best QBs in terms of metrics that measure productivity. You also might want to look at little more into the Bucs 2020 season. To make it sound like all they did was change QBs is a little ingenuous, considering their first 2 draft picks were actual holes the team had years prior. They picked up Wirfs in the 1st round and Winfield Jr in the 2nd. Both All-Pro caliber players. Also, the Bucs struggled with Brady for most of the season. They didn't start winning consistently until they modified the offense for Brady. They ended up running more motion and play-action, which funny enough, Winston in better in PA. Some of the routes were also simplified, as Brady wasn't the best in terms of option routes at the top of a vertical route tree...lol. There is a lot of nuance when you look at Winston's career and honestly, could show who actually looks at games (as opposed to stats) and who knows ball.

Fun fact: Jamies is the only NFC South QB to throw a pick 6 against every NFC South team.

He wasn’t as great as everybody made him out to be

A couple things I feel need to be clarified. Arians's offense is predicated on every receiver having a choice route on every play. No QB has played well in their first season in his system and even Brady struggled in it till he put his foot down and they went to the Patriots Max Protect offense. Jameis was expected to be re-signed by the Bucs till their front office was contacted by Brady's team. You don't turn down Brady for anyone, so I can't blame them for cutting him loose. Jameis wasn't re-signed for 2023, he was signed in 2022 on a two year deal. The guy catches way too much flak for his time in NO, as playing under Payton proved that he can play exceedingly well with the right coaching staff and offense. Payton doesn't get enough credit for his ability to adapt his offense to a QB's strengths. His winning record with all QBs not named Brees while with the Saints proves that.

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Great video

I know I’m biased… but I will DIE on the hill of Drew Brees being the second greatest QB of all time (as of now)

A lot of 5 yard checkdowns that went for 30

I do not remember the Chargers beating Peyton Manning in the playoffs

I'm not a charger fan but I loved LT he will always be my second favorite running back behind Eddie George, Eddie George wasn't as good as LT but Eddie George ran the way I would want to run the ball

Who cares now. Tom Brady ran it so there wasn't much left to go around.

The reason is simple. He only played lights out indoors. On grass he sucked ass. Cope harder Aints.

Because NFL scouts rated him at 5.95 (average backup), most likely. And there were several good QBs this year for teams that needed one in the short term. He was a good college QB, but doesn't have NFL size or an NFL arm, and is neither an elite athlete nor great at reading defenses.

Good piece bro. I subscribed!

Really stressing that Pay-tin

Huge Saints fan here. 2009 should have been a MVP year. 2011,Rogers had a season for the ages.

Peyton Manning has one of Drew’s MVPs… That was basically pure theft

brees has what i call sam howell syndrome the team is losing in all the games so they have to throw the ball every play and he ends up with a million passing yards and a 8-8 record that’s why he didn’t win mvp

Nah bruh…2011 should’ve been the year but media voted Rodgers on some BS

Brees was overrated another Eli manning

Brees 100%should have won MVP in 2009

It is absolutely horrendous he never won one yet some how somebody like Dak was a runner up people really dont know real franchise changing QBs

Imagine saying Rivers was infinitely more valuable than Manning, at any point of their careers. Not sure there is anyone that will agree with that one

Growing up watching Brees since I was 6 was amazing. He is my number 3 greatest QB of all time and I loved watching that man play and going to the many Saints games over the years. I loved seeing the team with the Super Bowl back in the 09-10 season as it was an amazing moment for the team, city of New Orleans, and the state of Louisiana. The Minneapolis Miracle and the no call though have haunted me and still haunt me today and will forever just hurt to watch. Drew Brees though will easily be first ballot Hall of Fame and I cannot wait to see the day that he is inducted into it.

I'm sure nobody gives a shit, but I am the exact same age as Brees. Also less interesting I was born in the city where the sheriff got most of those MVP's.

Brees could have been a Phin....... Instead we got Culpepper..... lol

Hate the way this dude says Payton and Peyton

I don't think it matters THAT much, because, as you said, Manning sat out the second half of that game anyway. If he kept playing, he would have beaten Brees' record by a LOT more.

That 2009 Manning comparison is a bit misleading. In the 15th game they rested their starters in the second half and in the 16th after one quarter because they started 14-0. That was probably Brees’s best chance to win it though.

manning wasn't about records or he'd have 2 - 50 TD seasons. he did the same thing when he broke marino's TD record.

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The real GOAT!

Bad attitude and average arm n ability to read defenses. Plus he grew up spiled as hell.

2009 manning was 14-0 the starters didn’t play the last two regular season games.

It’s really about how the player is to the team. They take many things into consideration. The colts have sucked hard since manning and luck left. Shows how much one position can be for a whole team.

The hair. It's the hair.

Drew Brees> Aaron rodgers

I think we all know why Manning got the edges in some MVP races....his name is Peyton Manning

Drew brees is my goat. Idc what people say he is top 10 of all time

Peyton manning also took the 2nd half off in 2 games that season so he could have had close to 6000 so shut up

in ALL honesty as of 12-99 i DON'T like purdue AT ALL including the elite drew brees

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2009 a.k.a.the last time where week 17 matchups weren't against your divisional rivals.

Brees is the true GOAT imo

MVP is be QB of the year.

bro should have gotten mvp in ever season bro got 5000 yards

Kebean, you're good at opening Saint's fans old wounds lol good video bro