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Billy's biking Channel
Registrace 28. 10. 2012
Taking inspiration from the woods and mountains seeing how far we can push the latest bikes and ski gear
Living in Italy Mountain Biking and Brexit
Just arrived in Aosta Valley time to find the local trails and test my legs out without an eBike
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Naughty Northumbrian Enduro 2021
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mountain biking festival enduro event. Naughty Northumbrian. Ebike category Trek Rail and Hardtail Category on the Orange Clockwork
Trek Rail Mullet review after 500 miles
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I've clocked up 500 miles on the Trek Rail 9.8 Bike. The Speedbox 3 is still running good after trips to Surrey Hills, Windhill, Forest of Dean, Cwmcarn, Afan, Aston Hill, Hopton Woods, Bucknell, Bringewood, Warley bike Park and Epping Forest.
E mountain bike shootout: Specialised Turbo Levo vs Trek Rail 9.8
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Should I get an E-bike? I demo the Specialised Turbo Levo and get my hands on the Trek Rail 9.8 riding in the Shropshire Hills. Bringewood and Bucknel tracks.
Speedbox 3 for Bosch Gen 4
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Installed Speedbox 3 on the Bosch Generation 4 motor. Riding off road derestricted.
Hopton Woods & Bucknel Downhill Tracks Before UK Lockdown
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After a year off the big bike recovering and training hard after ACL Surgery me and Ash Woody 155 took to the Shropshire Hills for some time on the bikes before the whole world went on lockdown with Corona Virus. Bikes: Canyon Sender Orange 327
Bali Bike Park
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Bali Bike Park, an edit from January 2020. Bali Bike Park is a very cool uplift assisted Bike Park in the North of Bali. The set-up is very simple with a couple of uplift pickup trucks and a small selection of Enduro Bikes from Giant, Rocky Mountain and Polygon. Agus - the guy running the place is super chilled and friendly and will happily lead you down or like I did - follow you and film you....
Roundup is a deadly Poison
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This video is about Roundup Poison and how such common places such as Supermarkets are selling this product and encouraging people to use a product that contains harmful poisonous ingredients proven to cause Cancer and proven contribute to the extinction of Bee Populations and other important insects.
ACL Surgery Re-hab 4-6 weeks
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In this video I talk about what supplements I've been taking and what physio and training I've been doing in the first 4-6 weeks post ACL surgery.
Part 1 My Journey to Budapest for ACL Surgery
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I tore my Anterior Cruciate Ligament in a BMX accident. Due to long waiting times on the NHS and no medical insurance I opted to travel to Budapest in Hungary to get my operation. The medical costs were less half what it would have been in the UK. I found the hospital through Medigence and the hospital was Medicover. Thanks to the Doctor and all the Nurses everyone that helped me on the road to...
Hopton Woods Pearce Demo Day - E-Bikes, DH Bikes, Enduro
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Deomo Day at Hopton with Pearce Cycles. @billys_biking & @155woody Bikes Tested: Specialized Turbo Kenevo 2019 Specialized Demo Carbon Specialized Enduro Carbon Nukeproof Mega Carbon Canyon Sender Any thoughts or questions on the bikes comment below and I'll reply.
Penhurst Bike Park 2018, after PORC closed it's doors PBP rebuilt our favourite local riding spot
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Banging out some laps at PORC in Kent with @woody155 and Rich Leeson on the DH Bikes
Review 2018 YT Tues CF Pro Jeffsy - 29er & 27 plus Canyon Sender
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Reviewing of the 2018 YT Tues, Jeffsy 29 & 27 plus comparing my own DH Bike Canyon Sender. Getting out on the steep and winding tracks at Revolution Bike Park Llangynog and spending an hour on 3 new YT Bikes plus first run on the 50:01 line.
Full Moto at Black Mountains
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2 Canyon Senders lapping Black Mountains Cycle Centre in the dry. Dusty and running fast.
We have now been using speedboxes on all our Ebikes since 2019 and still have no problems. We are very careful to never turn the bike off or plug the power in until the bike times out and shuts itself down. We have them fitted to Scott, Canyon and Haibike models. All Bosch motor/controller units.
Honestly 90% of the people complaining simply can't afford an emtb I got the lowly rail 7 but I love it
I was looking at fitting one, you made some good points about do I really need one? I would be happy if at 15.5mph it rode like my normal MTB maybe they could have a bit of power assisted to off set the weight and motor drag, Plus 15.5 in a 20 zone is not safe
Hi im 176cm 5.9ft ,what best size for me M or L trek rail
Hello Lukasz I'm 5.11 and on a L. I think it's right for me but also think if you like going mainly downhill you could put a short stem and riser bars on it and you would enjoy at your height. For an all-round bike the Medium would be a smarter choice.
Awesome dude! I just got a 2021 rail 9.8. coming from a Tazer mullet I NEED to make this rail a mullet. the 29er just sits too high for my style. Only thing I am concerned about is hitting the BB. If I put the link in high is it almost the same BB height as 29er in LOW?
Hey yea I was getting a lot of pedal strikes in the low before I changed the back wheel to mullet. Now I get a similar amount maybe less pedal strikes in the high and mullet. So obviously I'm not exactly sure what the height is but I feel like there's enough space there still got to be careful on technical terrain
@@billysbikingchannel5698 Thanks for the input. Would a 2.7 or 2.8 help with bb height? What size do you have in the rear? I also wonder how different the 2022 version is that can go mullet.
@@ants00 I've seen someone riding a 2.8 mullet and it might be nice but to me it didn't look like the bike was actually a mullet cos the wheel looked so big. My tyre is like 2.6 and that does make it proper mullet. I wouldn't say don't try the fatter tyre but not sure if you'd get a slacker H.A. I also don't know anything about the newer model. I think they made the geometry a little bit more trail so it should slacken up quite nicely
@@billysbikingchannel5698 Thanks for the input man. If the newer ones are more trail, what would you say ours are? I thought ours feel more trail than dh
@@ants00 NAA they are a trail bike but I heard the H.A. is like 64 now so they probably made it more for everyone. I've put 10mm extra height on the forks and a smaller rear wheel so it's now quite slack. Also changed my shock to Fox DH air X2 and it's a lot better. Just go to find more time to ride now. What shock did yours come with?
Man I hear you. I've been riding for 10+ years but since my kid arrived, time is scarce. I will be retiring my Trek Remedy for an ebike to ge the max out of those MTB-dad mornings and still have energy in the afternoon for my kid XD
It won't void your warranty because you would just remove it when you took it back. They'd have no way to know you did that. And its also perfectly legal, you just don't turn it on when on the public road.
only worry for me is the 504 error
I think you've got to update to the latest version and everything seems fine. Don't turn off after riding just let it turn off by itself
@@billysbikingchannel5698 thank you for the reply
Have you still got the mullet? I’m thinking of doing the same to mine but put a 2.8 tyre on the rear to try keep the geometry the same
Hey yea I've got the mullet going I reckon if you put 2.8 tyre then u wldnt feel the full mullet effect. I kept the 29er wheel so I will look forward to switching it up again one day. It's just far better for jumps!
I ride ECO mode most all the time. Because the bike weighs 50 lbs, suspension, mtb tires 25 psi, the eco mode basically lets it ride like a light hard tail. When I ride with friends on a social bike path ride they are on road bikes with skinny high pressure tires with my off road monster with eco mode I can stay with them comfortably. Hills , what hills? I used to plan my rides based on keeping away from hills, now I simply don’t care when I’m cruising down a hill knowing that I’ve got to pedal back up…game changer. I bought a turbo Levo comp. availability, a local dealer, and $ 800 off retail for the 2021 sealed my choice. The range of choices are many. I knew the base specs I was looking for and the price range I was willing to pay. I have zero regret for my new EMB, I can’t stay off of it!!
I think the US limit is actually 28 mph. As is the Netherlands (45 kph). Which lots of good road bikers can do as an average speed anyway. An amazing rider like Ganna rides his time trials at about 33 mph. The current 15.5 mph assist limit is a ridiculous limit on the road, fine for the elderly but useless for most fittish people on a road bike.
I just mulleted my rail and knocked 30s off a local DH run, the thing is phenomenal as a mullet..and I haven't even derestricted mine 🤣 ....👍
That's good to know cos I'm entering an ebike enduro. The naughty Northumbria event in August
Weird. I tried a mullet on mine and I felt like it didn't improve anything. What positive changes did you notice with the smaller rear wheel?
@@SpencerBaum yo Spence. There are plenty of people lovin the mullet and plenty of people that don't. I guess I like the familiarity it gives me on jumps. Helps me get lower to the ground which is sometimes not faster but I'm in more control that way. You are a 29er guy I guess?
@@billysbikingchannel5698 actually I'm not! My regular bike is a transition patrol (full 27.5) When I rode the rail as a mullet I did find that it was slightly better on jumps, I just didn't like how it felt through rough chunky stuff. I found the smaller wheel got caught up on stuff more and I couldn't plow as well. For me, the small improvement in jumping didn't offset the slower rolling speed and decreased rollover
@@SpencerBaum I'm loving the jumps on the Rail. To be fair for the long fast tracks mixing wheels is probably a bit more work but I certainly won't be swapping back
Hi mate just wondering do you need to take crank arm off? Or is it the cover on the bottom?
On this bike just unscrew the cover and pull the wires through that need connecting. I don't know about other models
My speed box gets me to work in like less than 5 minutes theres certain magnets you can remove off your wheels to make it even faster
My LBS said pull it when you bring bike in and all is well.
What rear wheel are you using??
Fortus rim on hope pro4 hub 27.5. Works very well
I want one so I ordered one LOL. Be here in June 21
You could be going 20 or 30 mph down the road without a motor and still hurt someone, This is the incoherence of the ebike laws
Second half of video much better than first half
Nice one. Once I got used to the size and weight of these machines it got way more fun!
Who cares, it’s about having fun. And If an EMTB can give you more fun, then go fir it! Enjoy
I have the older gen 3 cx that has been tuned for five years now and not one problem . i'm using a " Badass" exterior tuning box that can be installed in about a minute and taken of in a few seconds . It's really convenient if i want to ride in town . i don't think that company's box will work on a Gen 4 cx though.
You might already know this but if you put a 230x60 shock on the rear it will up the travel to 156mm. I went from the standard deluxe select plus to a fox dpx2. Can't notice the extra travel that much (can't hurt tho) but the extra midstroke and bottom out support is fantastic
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When I see a Trek Rail I see strength, power, and craftsmanship. The Trek Rail looks like it can take on anything.
I recently got a focus jam2 Bosch gen 4 and the assistance cut out of 25kph is annoying on bike paths to the trail but once on the trail I rarely hit the limit going uphill. Agree that the US/NZ 32kph is more ideal.
How do you find the mullet on the rail thinking off mulleting mine?
Turning the Rail into a Mullet gives it more character. Easier to whip and more confidence on jumps because you can get lower. Speed is probably effected (slower) but for me that's OK. It's got a motor after all 😊
@@billysbikingchannel5698 does it not make Bb to low?
@@Josh.s.smith88 with the mino link flipped to high I haven't noticed it. I've not tried it in low as I used to get loads of pedal strikes in low before I changed
Are you keeping it as a mullet or going back to 29? Thanks
@@Josh.s.smith88 yea I reckon just going to keep that way. Even tho I have a spare 29inch. Like I say really rips and no downsides as far as I think
Hi! Any updates?
YEA I've updated the software so I've got 85NM of torque. Very happy cos Speedbox 3 is still running. One thing it did end a ride for me a few weeks back, got a 504 error code mid way thru a ride, stopped riding and went and took it to the ebike shop. They plugged it in and got it sorted All Good !!!
@@billysbikingchannel5698 thanks for the reply, I hope you and the bike are doing well
I’m watching this video because I’m considering one of these. I find my ebike most frustrating when I’m peddling down a slight downhill trail, but one that’s still relatively flat. On a none ebike I can pedal very fast. On the ebike it feels like a tank as soon as I hit 15mph and I cannot get up to my usual speed of probably double that. This should help, right?
Well exactly. These ebikes are great fun when the power is there but so heavy to pedal when it's not. My advice, get the speedbox 3 ask a shop that is willing to fit it for u that way no surprises if it doesn't work. This thing just works simple. I've had an error code 504 after about 500 miles. I went to the shop I got it from they cleared the error and updated the bike now everything speedbox and all are running great. Speedbox do say that their dongle works well with the updated version of Bosch 4 so I'm content again for now. Just read some forums you'll find plenty of people that have had good experiences. Some bad but it is a risk, I was willing to take
@@billysbikingchannel5698 Mine has the latest 85nm update. My only concern is that it works with this? Seem to read conflicting advice on that bit. Otherwise, sounds great!! Thanks Chris
@@billysbikingchannel5698 Just fitted mine, seems to work, got to 25mph on a back street near my house..... doesn't "count down" when I come to stop though!!
I’m 38 and been riding most my life. I have raced XC, road bike, cross bikes, enduro bike and have recently bought a rail 9.8. I can say hands down it’s the most fun bike I have ever ridden! U can smash out loads more laps which means more fun down hill!!!, I ride so much harder on an Ebike than I ever do on a normal bike, therefore doing more exercise!,
Hit the nail on the head there. Same age as me. I used to plan my riding around uplifts but now I can uplift myself. It's definitely tiring after a full day out on the eeeb
Does the rail 9.8 have a Bosch motor? How do u like it?
@@1JorgeSan83 yea buddy of course Bosch and Trek are very much in partnership with this one
I’ve got the update. It’s a big difference. I wanted to take limited off but if I can’t I’m still happy with the extra oomph.
I've read some stories about people keeping the Speedbox on whilst getting the updated torque then riding fine with the limiter off. There's so much confusion around at the moment. Aaahhg Bosch!
I absolutely want to ride faster so I’d love to get 1 that works. I found ur video as I want to do the same mods. 170 front and 27.5 rear. Wife’s got a giant e reign with 27.5 was think about trying it if possible.
@@bigd4856 it's very possible on the Trek Rail. The bike sits lower feels easier to ride honestly. Downside is up hills etc obviously the bike becomes a little wheelie machine. Flip the mino link to high and its manageable. Try it out if anyone can lend u a rear wheel
UPDATE! after speaking with my speedbox dealers they say the latest bosch software will detect that the limiter has been tampered with. They will log this and then your warranty will be affected and it's also possible that the de limiter will not work! Looks like I'm stuck with 75NM and no updates because I'd rather pedal faster than 15.5mph
Actually scratch that. It's bollox I've updated mine now and speedbox is running great. I can highly recommend for when the trail goes flat
@@billysbikingchannel5698 is it a lie then to stop people from making there bikes faster? Been thinking of putting speedbox on mine but don’t want to void warranty or no future updates
@@ryanemtb4420 it works fine with latest update. As long as the shop you are getting from knows what they're doing to clear any previous fault codes. I did get a 504 error but they were able to help me out
Do you know what update ? I have the same bike and speedbox , I've had the update that gives you 85nm is there another one out ?
Have you! Did you buy the bike with the 85nm already installed?
Don't know of any updates apart from the extra torque and updated mtb mode 🤔
My excuse is I am an obove knee amputee 🤫and when I rode one the other day it feel like I was whole again.so that my excuse 😉
Magic bike 😁
put a 27.5 on the back of that trek and it will surprise you!
I have officially mulletted my Trek Rail. That will be the next video!!!
@@billysbikingchannel5698 Cool, please include all the links to parts needed, rim, hub and cassette. I am a novice when it comes to making mechanical changes to a bike.
Didn’t catch it but are you in the USA? If not, how might I get one over here? Cheers
Oh mate over there! Do speedbox do international shipping? If you are in a city are there any ebike specific shops? They'll be able to help you out I'm sure
Hi Billy, how many miles have you done with this fitted now? Did you enocunter any issues after the update?
400 miles now no issues however I have NOT had the update and I've been advised not to. I'd like to get that more torque but I will not sacrifice the limiter coming back!! Anyone no anyone who's had an update AND running speedbox???
I am in the US and I also have a surron. It will go 50mph and my question is, if you put this on, can't you take it off if you need warranty work or does it write to some code that the bike shop could see that it was installed?
The whole warranty thing is up for debate. In theory you can remove it to get services etc. But if you encounter a problem that leads to the system shutting down. For example three times and then locks you out I don't think you can have any complaints if they won't warranty your motor etc. Due to the limiter by pass
I'm like you 41. Have a 7 year old and work shifts so get as much training in as I can I've been MTBing since I was 13. Last week I went to coed y brenin... did the beast and dragons back the next day. Day three I was done in! So I hired a ebike a trek rail 7. Best day on a MTB ever for me. Loved it. I still pushed on and was blowing out my arse at times using just eco mode. Love it so much I've just ordered the Rail 9. I wanted to hate ebikes but it turns out they are utterly awesome.. The rail goes downhill like my canyon sender 🤣. Love it
have you got a video on installation I put the speedbox 3.0 in my trek rail 5 2021 model and seem to be getting 503error any help be appreciated
No haven't got any instructions tbh. What part of the country you in?
@@billysbikingchannel5698 in devon bud I might give it another go
What the hell is all that rattling noise when you’re “riding” downhill? Sounds like the bike is going to fall apart. Look out....you’re gonna crash !!!!
Jokes. Yea they're a bit noisy still a few years away before ebikes are fully refined like today's top 'normal' mtbs
This is pretty spot on. I've just got my first ebike an 15.5mph off road climbing is plenty fast enough, just wish it did around 22mph on canal paths ect as that's what you'd normally be riding at without the motor cutting out. My bikes brand new and debating this
Can you fit it on cube reaction hybrid exc 625 bought this year what gen moter is it ?
I dont know what motor you've got but I'm sure speedbox do a range of products. Most motors can be chipped
Did it work? Looking at getting the same
I think you hit the nail right on the head. I also have 4 kids and am a surgeon. I originally also thought of an e-mtb as "cheating" and now realize it makes a lot of sense. I don't need to spend 60 minutes getting up a mountain when halfway up I get called to go back to the hospital. This allows me to spend more time having fun and for days when you want to push yourself you can use the lowest mode or even zero assist. Congrats on the baby! Now you need to add a baby seat to the back so your kid can have fun too.
Very admiral job you have sir and impressive you have time for this plus 4 kids. Thanks for the message and I'll do my best with the kid on the way
I’m now over 1000 miles on my SpeedBox 3 ... no problems so far.
Sick. What ebike you ride?
Scott strike 920 ....2020 version with Bosch gen 4. Motor. If you fit a SpeedBox 3 , at the end of every ride always wait for the bike to turn itself off before plugging in the charger.
Hi mate still working good I had 2 error codes 501 or something like that from badass bikes tuning type 3.4 so looking for something else but not sure able to have another error code think that you get locked out if anyone knows about that either
@@aaron1278 you don't want 3 errors. I'd go directly to a dealer/shop and ask them to fit the speedbox 3 because at least that way you are a bit protected incase you install it wrong etc
Billy's biking Channel yea wanted to do that in the first place but dealer won’t touch with a bargepole so stuck!!!
Those people are just jealous, how is it cheating if you're not racing anyone? Whatever gives you more fun wins.
Funnily enough, Bosch is pretty lenient when it comes to their motors and even if you have the speed box installed and something happens to your motor you can still send it in for warranty, without the speed box installed of course, and they will have your motor fixed
That's interesting dude and thanks for letting me know. Also the update for the new software looks promising so all in all speedbox 3 looking like a good buy
How do you know this? I’ve just bought a 2021 cube reaction 500 I can’t afford to break it or lose my warranty
@@stevenparry7925 I’m picking up tomorrow, will ride it for awhile, then decide if I should mod it :)
@@ipodguy9 I got mine about 6 weeks ago and I’ve been hitting it hard now in north wales woodland and beach etc. Best thing I ever did. I ride about 30-35 now. When it’s wet it churns up the mud like a dirt bike lol. ( found it pointless having an ebike without the mod was seriously disappointed with the bike for what I paid not knowing anything about ebike’s ) with the speedbox in it now different ball game I love it. Battery is reduced by nearly 50% for me but worth every penny.
@@stevenparry7925 Might just pick one up rite off the bat in that case :) Is it as easy to install as it looks?
Great vid Billy, just what I was looking for as I’m considering one of these. Any update on error codes please? I hate the limit but I would hate error codes cutting my ride short even more! 😢
Cheers mate. All I can say is I've done 250 miles on it and the guys that I bought it off say that I will need to update the speedbox software if and when I do the latest bosch gen 4 update. Hopefully it will still work after all updates and I'll make another little vid
Billy's biking Channel 👍 excellent. Thanks for the reply mate. 🙌
I got an error 504 after about 500 miles. I rode back with the bike switched off. I got the latest update 85NM etc. Now everything is working fine and the speed box is still working too so very happy. Bit sceptical it might happen again but that's the risk u take...
Love the Levo life. 🤙🏴
I understand your point but mine allows me to go up a hill/trail at about the same speed I go down the hill/trail, so twice the fun
The good thing about ebikes is the average speed of your ride throughout whether on flat going up or down is so much higher you feel like you are constantly at downhill speeds. I did a 30mile ride the other day and finished by 1pm it was fast throughout
Superb video! Thx for sharing! I just bought KTM Prowler Prestive, which KTM you riding? Also I think I'm going to get the Speedbox 3 for mine too, 15 mph is way too slow, I can reach 30mph on my other bike without electric.
How do you know what Gen motor you have? I've just bought a cube acid hybrid, with Bosch performance line... Really wanted to derestrict, but as per other comments here, I'm reading that Bosch can detect this and goes into permanent limp mode after 3 errors. Apparently this is on Gen 4 motors, but Bosch have upgraded firmware on older generations too on new bikes sold. Will be interesting to see if you have any issues.. thanks
Looks like your Cube is Gen 3. Everyone's been worried about the Gen 4s getting detection but I was told that that detection software is supposed to read if you have a mechanical device tricking the sensor such as changing aspects of the chainring. Also older speedbox and others are now detected. Speedbox 3 being new has managed to get round Bosch software but I'll know in 500 miles or so. I'll do a long term review
@@billysbikingchannel5698 They key I read is too not turn the bike off when you have finished riding, otherwise the motor can detect its been derestricted and goes into the lymph error code mode, just let it switch it self off or wait until it goes to 0, that's what speedbox said, and it will work fine.
@@NetMillionaire OK thanks for that. I've not been sticking to that switching off sequence but I think I will now.... I've only managed 200miles so far on the Trek Rail with speedbox 3 I'll make another video when I'm 500 miles + by the way those KTMs look brilliant sick mate