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Registrace 7. 07. 2009
Bilstein 3-Link testing - Waterford Hills
Ran in the advanced group with the Roush owners club at Waterford Hills Raceway. Putting miles on the upcoming Bilstein coilover 3-Link rear suspension. Its a tough job but someone has to do it!
The car is like a fricken go cart. It is getting really quick around this track, 3 seconds a lap quicker than last year with the leaf springs, Bilstein shocks and watts link. Brakes are fantastic, I ran all day with the ducts taped up. Made up tons of ground on cars down the back straight into the brake zone. Braking from 97mph at the 250' mark to 40mph for the corner. 5mph faster and 50' later than last year.
Set my best time so far for this car at this track - 1:22.34.
The car is like a fricken go cart. It is getting really quick around this track, 3 seconds a lap quicker than last year with the leaf springs, Bilstein shocks and watts link. Brakes are fantastic, I ran all day with the ducts taped up. Made up tons of ground on cars down the back straight into the brake zone. Braking from 97mph at the 250' mark to 40mph for the corner. 5mph faster and 50' later than last year.
Set my best time so far for this car at this track - 1:22.34.
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Road America - July 27th-29th 2012
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Dialing in our Bilstein 3-Link rear coilover suspension fitted to our 1966 Mustang.
Street or Track Front Bilstein Coilover System in action
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Watch the suspension in motion real time as we take a spin around the block.
Waterford Hills Harvest Happening 2011
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Not bad for an old clunker! Me that is, not the car!
Street or Track 13 x 1.25" Brake System Install
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Watch as we go over some details on our 13 x 1.25" brake system, then watch how simple the installation is.
Street or Track 12 x 1.25" Trans-AM Brake System Install
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Watch as we go over some details on our 12 x 1.25" Trans-Am brake system, then watch how simple the installation is.
Street or Track Full Floating 9" Rear End System
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Watch as we install the hub and rotor assembly onto our Full Floating System. You'll be able to see how simple the system is to install and maintain as well as get a peek at just how cool it is!
10-10-10 Waterford Hills Pass.MPG
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Jason puts the hammer down during development of our Race valved Bilstein coilover system. This vavling/spring combination turned out 3 seconds quicker than the conventional spring/shock combination previously on the car.
Waterford_9_5_10_coolant_explosion.wmv
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Waterford_9_5_10_coolant_explosion.wmv
Street or Track's 1966 Mustang at Waterford Hills, MI
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'66 Test mule out at Waterford Hills Raceway in MI. Putting new parts through their paces and adding track miles to our long term test parts.
I saw this set up on the ‘67 Ruffian Mustang and its now on my wish list! Ive run the Kelsey Hayes w/ Porterfield R4/S pads for a few seasons and glazed the rotors, so this upgrade is moving up in priority!
awesome video thank you
How much for the bolt and nuts
Kugla vešanja donjeg ramena ima mogučnost razdvajanja u takvoj poziciji, treba obratno montaža sa gornje strane prema nosaču rukavca zbog nošenja težine i pouzdanije veze.
Make the hub nut from steel or stainless i reckon
Id like a 11.5 FF for my 06 Chevrolet 1500 with 6 lugs
Thank you!!!!
Potentially dumb question - is there a minimum diameter wheel required for this setup? Will 15" rims work?
All this work and yet the weakest link is still an issue. What might that be you say ,the universal joint. That being said , this without a doubt a well thought out differential design.
what universal joint? this is a rear axle.
@@dobrzpe what do you think turns the yoke for the pinion
@@Greenerplaces well, then by your logic: the weakest point is bad gas. your "weak link u-joint" is turned by the driveshaft, rotated by the transmission, driven by the engine, *which* needs non-contaminated gas to run. joking aside: so, what's the fix/replacement/upgrade for the u-joint at the pinion?
Nice !!
Didn't set end play on axle. He will figure it out when that comes shooting out
You have to space the axels using a spool other wise they will grind togather and put metal into your bearings and gears quick death to them.
I use button head aliens and stainless washers
@@brentfrederick6576 No. They'll be fine. They'll be against the pieces inside the differential that would otherwise separate the axles to keep a C-clip assembly engaged. Another alternative is to use axles with crowns machined into the ends and leave a bit of slop in the system.
He is being very "general" in his assembly. Depending on what you are using it in there are usually buttons screwed into the axle on the rear gear side and when used with the end plates so the 2 axles only move a limited amount. Our dirt car is 1/32" over all. Both axles need inner plugs to keep gear lube from going down the hollow axle to the outer ends. Both outer bearings are removed every 3 races and serviced. We also use inner seals.
If the axles are solid, they can just machine a crown into the ends of the axles, leave 1/16" of slop in the system, and toss them in. Look at an Eaton TrueTrac for a 10-bolt. They have that round disc that goes in there to keep the c-clips engaged. Now, you'd just leave the assembly as-is and put the axles in.
Im shocked that no one has caught the issue with the lower. Some mention was made about the bracket but not the fact that with this configuration the lower ball joint is being pressed out constantly. That is a big NO NO for lower control arm . Ask Jeep about the Liberty.... You should always load a ball joint into its cup , not push it out of its cup... It creeps me out a bit watching it....
Thank you for your comment but its not a concern with this configuration. We checked with Moog on our design, ran it past our engineer and have 1000's of units in the field without any issues.
Wish there was a before and after video on the same car so we can compare the benefits of the coilover system.
Motor sounds good, suspension looks dialed, should be fun car.
+StreetorTrack Great video. Are these Wilwood calipers?
interesting
Ramp it
can I get your email address? how can I get in contact with you. I'm building a 66 mustang also.
It's a really cool image.
Nice video. What car is this?
Just Based on suspension 64.5 to early 70s mustang or other ford with similar suspension
what would be price for 99 camaro and where do you buy this
I lube my wheel stud threads as well......It helps alot.
That aluminum bracket at the bottom shock mount is scary. It flexes to much (too much leverage) The shock needs to be longer with a short stout bracket.
Aluminum? Flexing? Neither is accurate. The lower coilover mount is steel and is solidly bolted to the LCA. The lateral motion you see is the LCA moving up/down and the lower mount hole moving on the arc the LCA swings from the inner pivot.
what keeps the axle shafts from sliding back and forth inside the housing?
There is a bolt on one axle in the center that you adjust so both axles are almost the same width from axle cover to axle cover
The differential. Look at an Eaton Truetrac for a 10-bolt GM. They have a solid disc inside to keep the c-clips engaged. When you ditch the C-clips and go floater, the axles are in contact with that disc, and then the cap in the end of the assembly. I wish cars came this way from the factory.
very original. not a lot of people get to see how suspensions work. thanks for the vid.
The lack of camera shake is very telling. Good job on the setup.
Did i see it spike up to 1.25 at a certain point? wow
Looking to make my 64 Falcon hang with my 15 GT!
I like that your blowing off the new boss 302 cars.way cool.You should do a video on this car.
one small thing about the brake caliper , dont leave them hanging by the ruer brakeline , the innerline stretches and could clog the line up having the brake fail , use some weldingrod bend in an S and hang it from the spring
Wow Shaun! This car is a blast! I just discovered your business from the vmf, would love to get some parts for my 65. You have one hell of a cool thing going with that ride.
Would it be possible to get a second caliper mounting bracket welded to the housing on the opposite side of the housing? That way, you can run a dual caliper setup?
You could but generally you don't need that much breaking on the rear.
@@robert5 Yea, the second would be strictly for a hydraulic E brake. Ended up passing on that plan though.
What size studs and bolt circle diameter?
It seems there is not much grease lubing the bearings. On a non-floating Ford 9 in., I guess the hypoid oil constantly lubes the bearing, especially on a slope. But then again, the weight is off the axle, like you said.
Is the the three link coilover for the rear a complete bolt on system?
Wow. I can't wait. That motor is like Bach to my ears. Is it a 289?
I have this exact kit on my 1970 Mach 1 Mustang. It's simply AMAZING. The fit and finish are factory quality, and the brake performance make a vintage car stop better than 99% of most late model performance cars! The kit also clears my 17" Vintage Wheel Works V48 wheels with a TON of clearance. Thanks to Street or Track for doing such a great job engineering this kit!!!!
GOOD stuff!! Street or Track ROCKS! Looks like a lot of time went into designing this system.