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glad you enjoyed :) merci

haha you walked so i could run o7

thank you :) if i was you i'd get the medium. you have a bit of a buffer in case it comes in short. also havin your toes or feet hang off the pad slightly isn't gonna kill ya. i have some regular pads where it's like that for me.

@@OutdoorOtaku i was thinking abt the quilt, should I get the large just to be sure and have more room or the medium?

sweet! let me know how it goes.

thanks for watching, Dominyk :)

gear and amount of days out can make a big difference. i had about 1 and a half days of food in there. it can easily fit more though. using a trekking pole tent also helps a lot.

all the important stuff (electronics) are in ziploc bags. i know some people would put their tent in last or near the top so when it rains they can set it up easily and first. as a weekend warrior, i've never put myself in a position where it was pouring enough for me to care.

yes you can, just be careful not the cut the material beneath the velcro.

running definitely works! some bounce is unavoidable, but this pack manages it very well.

Thank you Jeffrey!

my pleasure! glad you enjoyed. Let us know what you think about it once it comes in!

thank you!

thank you Mark! well, im merely a weekend warrior so i haven't dont continuous long term testing. However my c9111 has been with me for awhile now. Overnights, hikes, runs, and traveling. No issues. if i was to go on a thru hike, i'd trust it. worst case scenario, it's so cheap you can buy a backpack to leave at home and ready to ship out if needed.

unfortunately not. i have a smaller capacity bottle i use that i DIY'd. check my channel if you want to see that. those bottles are still going strong. Aonijie has hard bottle's with straws, but its not contoured. It's such a shame they discontinued it. im sure it's to save money. the new bottles they have look exactly like the aonijie ones from china. I did a little bit of DIYing with an Amphipod contoured hand bottle and the cap of the aonijie bottle. they screw together but the threads are not perfectly aligned so it leaks a lot. my next try may be using the Amphipod bottle again but with one of those bottle straw conversion kits. not the one i used in my video but some of the other ones that can fit large mouth bottles.

​@@OutdoorOtakuThanks I've seen it, but this bottle seems perfect in both capacity and shape.. too bad. Might have to experiment with what I can find locally

no note yet lol. i have it and it's sitting in the closet patiently waiting. next video will probably be a overview type video going over all the packs i have. i dont think i have time to give each one an individual review. and no offense, some packs just dont deserve a whole review lol

no i have not. i personally dont like hipbelts. i prefer to use a separate running belt. i may try it though since it is lower volume. im curious if i can get it to weigh less than the c9111 when modded.

Yes they have a 20L

As @stigcc said, there is a 20l. however other than pack testing days, this is the pack i use for pretty much everything lol. Trail running, fast packing, day hiking, even travel. You can cinch it down pretty small.

hahaha omg i love that. i will use this for sure

Thank you! It's a game changer!

correct, Columbia outdry montrail

thank you! No i have not. thankfully the only bears we have around here are like big racoons (black bears).

I agree with this I've tested pack liner vs compression bag. No real space savings with compression sack.

HHUUHH?? okay i need to test this! i'll give it a try soon. what pack size do you have? thanks for the information.

@@OutdoorOtaku I have Gossamer Gear Murmur & Kumo (28L internal), LiteAF Curve 30L and Framed 48L, and an Evolved Supply Co. Ranger 35L. I most often use the loose quilt method in the Murmur, since that pack is basically a grocery bag with straps (haha). I even leave my tarp or tent (also GG) loose on top of the quilt (separated by the bag). Then just place my food bag (including pot/stove/hygiene) and electronics bag on top of that. Squish it down just enough to roll the top of the pack down sufficiently. Warning: this will not result in an impossibly small looking pack to flex on the trail, since you’re effectively using the full volume of the pack all the time. All the Palante tiny pack influencers will scoff. Lol.

@@jpriddle ​ haha after the mods i did on my c9111 it definitely feels like a grocery bag with straps. i'll definitely try this next trip! thank you for your comment.

That's a good point! I have tested it before. Believe it or not, i feel like it's more comfortable without the pad. With the pad against the back it feels bulky. Once i put the pack on, the crest conforms to my body. the only issue is if the food bag wasn't placed in correctly. a quick adjustment can make it flat. Also, another smaller issue is that the pad will get soaked if i put it there. Not just with rain, but sweat as well. Since i took out most of the back material on the c9111 except for some mesh, moisture from my back travels through it very easily. I'm definitely the odd one out! i do know a lot of people recommend this. Everyone should definitely try both options to see what they prefer. Thank you for bringing this up.

@@OutdoorOtaku It won't get soaked if you put it inside the nylofume, at least that's what I do. Will try your approach some day as it's true that it gets more bulky. Salut!

@@enricadventures5793 if it's in the nyloflume then wouldnt it get smushed down to the bottom ish half of the pack? yeah whenever i can pack vertically i do so. that's one of the reasons why i keep the side bottle pockets and back stretch pocket fairly empty/light stuff only.

@@OutdoorOtaku is that bad?

thanks Jason!

@@OutdoorOtaku ordered one yesterday 😁

@@jasonphillips8302 lesssgoooooo!!! let me know how you like it!

thank you! i did bring a cook set @ 3:28. in the pot is my stove, lighter, and isobutane canister. since i have the freeze dried food separating the pot from my back, it is comfortable.

​@@OutdoorOtaku Thank you for your reply! Sorry I missed your comment as CZcams didn't notify me. I'll definitely look into getting a similar cook set for my adventures. I really appreciate the idea and tips!

let me know how the testing goes and what mods you do! about the quilt poncho- that's smart. im actually planning to do a gear mod video of the flamescreed quilt from aliexpress. looks like i'll have to do some more research. thanks!

Hey, yes it does, but you have to trim the width slightly. Like maybe 4 inches? i forgot. Also im not sure if it actually fits in the frame pocket since i cut it out. But it does fit in the same area. That's exactly what i do for some trips.

@OutdoorOtaku where do you leash your custom pad on the bag? Ok the inside? Or on the outside with some shock cord?

@@joshuakosloski6873 inside just against the fabric that touches my back.

@OutdoorOtaku would it be too much to ask for a picture showing how you're doing it? 😭😭 Also any recmendations on fastpacks that has enough space (either on the outside with a shockcord attachment, or inside in place of the pad it came with) to support the GG Thinlight or any comprable sitpad like the Thermarest Z Lite? I've tried the 20" nashville cutaway but the fabric at the bottom is too tight for most back panels I've try to fit in. I' not sure if there are any "greater alternatives" but seeing as you tested a bunch its worth an ask!

@@joshuakosloski6873 not at all! here's some pics: imgur.com/a/x7rBlig the sides curve slightly since the pad is a bit large. however it's not problematic. i'd recommend the aonijie c9111! the only other pack that i have that can compete with the c9111 in comfort is the palante joey. however the joey is too narrow to fit the pad. I have a cutaway as well. never tried to put the thinlite in it. its a nice pack. but it always felt like a UL backpack with vest straps rather than a true fast pack.

Thank you! Appreciate the kind words. glad to help. hope you enjoy your trip ! :)

no i do not. However from what i can see, they are two very different packs. One being a more traditional 40l frameless backpack and the other being a vest style 30l pack. I think it really depends on what you want to do with the pack and the gear you have. if you still dont know, just get the c9111. it's cheaper and if you cant use it backpacking, you can use it for so many other things. Day hiking, travel, biking, etc.

@@OutdoorOtaku Okay great thanks!

6'1 160 lbs

if i had the time, mental fortitude, and passion, yes i would! Maybe one day.

yeah the strap gap is what really killed this pack for me. it's unfortunate since it has potential. WELCOME TO THE AONIJIE PACK PACK! 😈i love converting people oh, i didnt know that pack existed. pretty cool. so it's body length is shorter than the aonijie c9111?

@@OutdoorOtaku yeah it's all round smaller in depth width and height on the body, and end to end on the foam back at the longest point it's 16 inches and the c9111 is 18. It fits me fine apart from the hip belt is a stomach belt unless I'm pretty much at max trap length. I'm about 6ft 2 Although most fast packs including the c9111 seem to fit a bit better higher on your back like a running vest, so maybe I'm just not destined to own a fastpack with a comfortable hip belt haha (at least at budget prices)

@@MovementDrifter that's very interesting. you'd think it's the same pack body. it looks so similar. I kinda wanna give it a try now that i know its not the exact same capacity. lol yeah most fastpacks have belly belts that ride around the waist rather than hips. i hate it cause my belly wants to be free especially after munchin on food. I dont use them now, but when i first started looking at packs that was a feature i really wanted. The only fastpacks i know of that does have actual hip belts are the ultraspire epic xt and i think some packs from montane. IIRC they also have actual stiff frames. so the hipbelt can help distribute the weight. in the end i opted against it as i found it limited my movement too much.

@@OutdoorOtaku yeah I think you're right about fastpacks with hip belts, I think I may just stick to ultralight packs when I need one. If I wasn't in Australia I'd send you the pack for review, but it will probably cost the same to send it back and forth than it costs shipped from China lol I'd also recommend having a look at the decathlon quechua mh500 22l rolltop. It's like a hybrid fastpack with a hip belt that tucks away behind the water bottle pockets, vertical zip to access the body, also has a little pocket on the bottom and comes with a rain cover, but I use the pocket like a palante, for snacks and stuff. Not very light at 745gm/1.64 lb without rain cover but it's a nice pack and well priced

@@MovementDrifter haha thank you and no worries. It seems like there's a lot of interest so i may just pick one up. I need to offload some of my current packs first though... wow, so many new fastpack/hybrid packs with vest straps nowadays! Looks good. the shoulder strap pockets are a bit lacking for me. I need big stretchy ones for my bottles. Im getting kinda picky with packs. i've tried a lot now and i have a good feeling of what i like and what i dont. my next vid will probably be a breakdown of "what to look for in a fastpack". or something like that. decathlon looks good, but i dont know if it can really compete with the c9111 or palante joey

have not tested. im mostly doing 18lbs or less. I wouldnt want to run in 18lbs + with it. However walking/hiking may be fine. or if you have stronger shoulders than i do

at least they made some improvements. i hear you though. I hope UD can take this as a sign to innovate further .

lol what do you mean house that thing? not like you're sticking the pad in the sleeping bag xD im 6'1, so the 196 is much appreciated.

i think i'll give it a try. i dont know what to do with the straps though. i'll need to hear some ideas!

I don't think so. i think 4r for 20f is a bit low. I havent gone down to 20f before though, so ymmv. you can maayybe get away with it if you had down booties, pants, jacket, and hood. or if you layer with another quilt/sleepingbag.

no i have not done any follow up, but thats a great idea. but still no issues with the pad. i havent tested it down to that temperature again though. I dont really do winter backpacking.

All good! I ended up getting the same pad, so when I go out next I'll tell you how it fares in AU winter conditions! I'm hoping it'll be good down to below freezing given 5.8.

@@andycjohnston Yes please keep me updated! Stay safe and have fun!

heartache?! im very glad to hear that ive helped! ❤

im glad you found the video helpful! Have you tested it yet? let me know what you think. trail running is a lot of fun. For a weekend warrior like me, sometimes i gotta run in order to accomplish my goals. silicone seam sealant would be a great idea. however note that the pack material itself isn't 100% waterproof like dyneema or ultra. It is coated with something on the inside, but that will eventually wear out as mine has. It will still help though. ive never heard of Lycocell, that's interesting. i'd say test the pack first. It may not be necessary. I've never found friction to be an issue. In fact, i actually prefer the body facing fabric to be a little bit rough. that way it wont slide / bounce around too much. i have another pack called the raidlight revolutiv 24l that is made out of a very slick material. it bounces like crazy due to what i believe is the material and many other things. I like how your are thinking! keep the ideas coming.

@@OutdoorOtaku I had the chance to take it out on a few hikes and bike rides since my last comment. Overall I've been very impressed by the functionality of it. Large enough to hold anything I'd want on a day trip, but still very functional. It hugs my back well, even when I'm scrambling over a fallen tree or riding a bike. I think I agree there are a few too many straps and loose details/pockets that could be removed. I may just use silicone to coat the bottom panel for increased durability. The process I intended to use can coat entire swathes of the fabric but it's probably a bit prohibitive to do that to every part of the backpack. And like you mentioned it would make it quite slippery at that point. You're completely right about the Lycocell being unnecessary. So far I haven't had any discomfort from the straps, and definitely no lasting marks or friction burns. I intend to keep using it as my day-trip pack for the foreseeable future so if I come up with any new plans or ideas I'll be sure to swing back by!

@@AlyKatAlice Nice! im glad you are liking it. Silicone on the bottom for durability is a great idea. Come by any time

Thank you!