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ROGER THAT: Masters of the Air(waves)
A video discussing the use by film makers of anachronistic radio jargon.
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Laconic Granny
Laconic Granny Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Victoria Cross vs. Knight's Cross: A Tale From the Hand Grenade Division
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Major William Sidney of the 5th Battalion, Grenadier Guards was awarded the Victoria Cross for his actions on the night of 7-8 February 1944 in the Anzio beach-head when he personally led counter-attacks against German forces threatening to overrun his battalion. Among the attackers was Leutnant Heinrich Wunn of the 7th Company, Grenadier Regiment 147. Wunn would go on to receive the Knight's C...
IGNORE THE LAW: German Interpretation of International Law in World War II Part IV (Conclusion)
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This is the fourth and final part of a series discussing how the Germans interpreted international law in the Second World War. The earlier discussions on wearing enemy uniforms, handcuffing prisoners, and lethal reprisals highlighted how differently the Germans treated those given specific legal protections, such as prisoners of war, and those who did not enjoy them. This conclusion discusses ...
HISTORY WRITTEN BY THE LOSERS: The German Army in Fiction and Fact
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A brief discussion of how fictional portrayals of German soldiers in the Second World War have evolved since the war, and some of the various ways fiction and fact have intersected during that time. 0:09 Introduction 03:00 Grossjohan's thoughts on German fiction 05:04 The recipe 06:06 Germans as victims 08:30 Stalingrad example 09:20 History by the losers 10:40 Unspeakable crimes and the Cold W...
Waffen SS in Canada's Parliament: Historians Perspective
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A video to compare two responses to the controversial remarks by Canada's Speaker of the House of Commons on 22 September 2023 and a discussion of the role historians have to play in interpreting and understanding the past, the present, and the occasions in which they intersect. Sources referred to and/or consulted include: OTD Military History video: Yaroslav Hunka Waffen SS in Canada's Parlia...
Demonstrating Why "The World at War" is the Gold Standard of World War II Documentaries in 3 Minutes
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In a feeble attempt to disguise the lack of content in recent months due to other commitments, I offer this up. A random watching of an episode of World at War suggested this three minute snippet as a great example of just about everything that makes this the go-to for World War II documentaries despite its age. One major absence from this clip is an illustration of how willing the producers we...
World War II Tactics and Terminology: THE INFANTRY PATROL
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A brief video describing types of infantry patrols in the Second World War and their overall context in military operations. Index 00:04 Intro 02:14 The Infantry Battalion 03:17 Patrol Plans 05:04 Types of Patrols 07:06 Planning a Patrol 08:36 Conducting a Patrol 11:44 Paperwork 14:33 Conclusion 15:12 End Credits The following video on this channel is referenced: Attack of the Leaping Horseman:...
TURNING POINTS Teaser - World War II Short Film German vs First Special Service Force
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Teaser trailer for a fictional short film currently in post-production.
German Tracked AFV Classifications
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A video discussing the main categories of tracked AFVs used by the Germans in the Second World War. The following references were used in part in researching this video: Canadian Army Vehicle Data Book accessed online at wartimecanada.ca/document/world-war-ii/driving/vehicle-data-book Edwards, Roger. Panzer: A Revolution in Warfare, 1939-1945 www.amazon.com/Panzer-Revolution-1939-1945-Roger-Edw...
Mark Felton and the King's Own Calgary Regiment
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A short video in response to a point of trivia in Mark Felton's "Dieppe 1942: Slaughter on the Shingle." Direct Link to Mark Felton Production's video: czcams.com/video/sbSn0wccJAo/video.html LINEAGE "The King's Own Calgary Regiment". Official Lineages: Volume 3, Part 1: Armour, Artillery and Field Engineer Regiments - Armour Regiments. Directorate of History and Heritage. 11 June 2010. Accesse...
Battle of Normandy Situation Maps
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A short video showing the basic deployments of both sides in the Battle of Normandy from D-Day to Operation COBRA using contemporary situation maps.
ARMED REPRISALS IN ITALY: German Interpretation of International Law in World War II Part 3
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A video discussing German interpretation of international law during World War II. Germany considered the armed reprisal to be an appropriate means of dealing with civilian populations, under their interpretation of international law. This video examines the experiences of the 65th Infantry Division in detail, against the backdrop of Germany's complicated relationship with Italy during the war....
Why did the German soldiers roll up their sleeves? (Video Analysis)
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Why did the German soldiers roll up their sleeves? (Video Analysis)
The Hand Grenade Division ( #Shorts )
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The Hand Grenade Division ( #Shorts )
BIND THEIR HANDS: German Interpretation of International Law in World War II Part 2
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BIND THEIR HANDS: German Interpretation of International Law in World War II Part 2
DRESS LIKE THE ENEMY: German Interpretation of International Law in World War II Part I
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DRESS LIKE THE ENEMY: German Interpretation of International Law in World War II Part I
UNHAPPY ALLIANCE: The American-Canadian First Special Service Force in World War II
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UNHAPPY ALLIANCE: The American-Canadian First Special Service Force in World War II
RED ARMY TANK COLORS AND MARKINGS IN THE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR 1941-45
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RED ARMY TANK COLORS AND MARKINGS IN THE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR 1941-45
STORY BEHIND THE PHOTO: Lt. Orris Keehr, South Saskatchewan Regiment, Oranje Canal, 12 April 1945
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STORY BEHIND THE PHOTO: Lt. Orris Keehr, South Saskatchewan Regiment, Oranje Canal, 12 April 1945
SIGNS OF WAR: Canadian and British Road Signs in Northwest Europe 1944-45
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SIGNS OF WAR: Canadian and British Road Signs in Northwest Europe 1944-45
Filming the Leaping Horseman: Bringing a World War II Legend to Life
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Filming the Leaping Horseman: Bringing a World War II Legend to Life
Attack of the Leaping Horseman: Planning and Leading a Small Unit Action on the Eastern Front
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Attack of the Leaping Horseman: Planning and Leading a Small Unit Action on the Eastern Front
Common Combat Awards of the German Army 1939-1945
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Common Combat Awards of the German Army 1939-1945
Ranks of the Waffen-SS
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Ranks of the Waffen-SS
The "Correct" Shade of Field Grey (Feedback Reply)
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The "Correct" Shade of Field Grey (Feedback Reply)
German Ground Forces in the Italian Campaign 1943-45
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German Ground Forces in the Italian Campaign 1943-45
KLEINIGKEITEN: Anachronisms in Cultural Depictions of World War II
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KLEINIGKEITEN: Anachronisms in Cultural Depictions of World War II
Canadian Army Ranks 1939-1945
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Canadian Army Ranks 1939-1945
German Army Armoured Fighting Vehicle Uniforms 1934-1945
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German Army Armoured Fighting Vehicle Uniforms 1934-1945
Evolution of the German Army Field Uniform 1933-1945
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Evolution of the German Army Field Uniform 1933-1945

Komentáře

  • @user-kl9pl6xn8n
    @user-kl9pl6xn8n Před dnem

    one of the beautiful uniform.

  • @jessphuqette1716
    @jessphuqette1716 Před 5 dny

    What where the pre-requisits to become an officer?

  • @florinivan6907
    @florinivan6907 Před 8 dny

    The White House did attempt to defend itself from criticism about the Bitburg visit by emphasizing that most of the SS men buried there were 17/18 drafted at the end of the war not guys who had been camp personell. The visit also had a Cold War element to it. To show the strength of US-West German relations in NATO. The truth is White House officials didn't know at first who was buried there and only later did they find out. Backtracking was close to impossible once the visit had been announced.

  • @jonreivictorbuan1982
    @jonreivictorbuan1982 Před 12 dny

    If only there was a long-form video going into detail regarding the evolution of the German uniform during ww2!

  • @jdc9528
    @jdc9528 Před 16 dny

    You do great work! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍..............Nit pickers of the world are a dime a dozen.😁

  • @midknightfenerir
    @midknightfenerir Před 20 dny

    Wait until Germanicus hears about this.

  • @phongthanhluu-ne6hq
    @phongthanhluu-ne6hq Před 21 dnem

    SS Gruppenführer Offiziere nichtoffiziere

  • @manuvanhaeskolo
    @manuvanhaeskolo Před 22 dny

    What exactly do you mean by saying only germans were allowed to wear the SS runes on their right collar patch? That isn't true. In the picture at 2:50 is a Finnish soldier, picture taken 3rd of june 1943 in Tampere. In the original picture there's a Finnish flag in the backround but this picture just barely crops it out. I don't know about other nations, but I am somewhat familiar with the history of the Finnish SS-troops. And all the pictures I've seen of them wearing their parade and even combat uniforms, they have the Sig runes on their right collar patch. Great video though, I just wanted to point this out.

  • @localfatty4364
    @localfatty4364 Před 25 dny

    I have a couple late relatives who were in the Wehrmacht. I think 1/3 made it home alive. I really should try and get in contact with them

  • @lorenzobrown4465
    @lorenzobrown4465 Před 25 dny

    who gives a rats ass??? Germans only skill was starting wars they never won and terrorize the world. The majority of the world have no love for them soo..........

  • @treborschafer3945
    @treborschafer3945 Před 26 dny

    Major Georg sounds like an exemplary example of a military leader and we all owe men like him for enabling us to live this last eighty years free from Bolshevism. May we use that time men like him gave us to free ourselves from the yoke of the Globalists and see a European revival once again.

  • @wolfthegreat87
    @wolfthegreat87 Před 27 dny

    Here's a sortof chapter timeline for anyone who wants to skip to specific sections: 0:00-1:09 Intro/Brief History of the Canadian Army 1:09-2:00 Other Ranks I (Privates) 2:00-2:45 Other Ranks II (Junior NCOs) 2:45-3:17 Other Ranks III (Senior NCOs) 3:17-4:31 Other Ranks IV (Warrant Officers) 4:31-4:43 Other Ranks V (Band Appointments) 4:43-6:05 Officers 6:05-7:08 Branch Colors 7:08-8:15 Colonels & Generals 8:15-10:47 Officer Duties 10:47-11:15 Conclusion 11:15-11:29 Credits

  • @anon2034
    @anon2034 Před 27 dny

    23:54 interesting!

  • @Your_Wingman
    @Your_Wingman Před 29 dny

    Agreed man, and one other thing I'd like to mention is Americans being rough with peoples items. I once had a GI throw my buddies p38 in the mud (which was a pain to clean lol). And I've seen GI search dead Germans and take their sidearms without permission. And personally people should ask before touching things at public events.

  • @musclecarbear4704
    @musclecarbear4704 Před měsícem

    History is very complex and thus a detailed analysis is always required. Something the media, Hollywood and school teachers don’t explain. …sometimes for nefarious reasons, for their own benefits.

  • @MikeB128
    @MikeB128 Před měsícem

    A Canadian with a shaky voice is not someone I want to hear talking about the uniform changes of the Wehrmacht. Good God....

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      Thanks for taking the time to comment so constructively. I've never heard of your channel, so I appreciate getting the opportunity to review what you have to offer. I was instantly drawn to your review of German pronunciation in this video czcams.com/video/OKDHOG1BEv4/video.html - you note that it was a redo of an earlier video which received negative attention, and as soon as I heard your "shaky American voice" say LOOOOOOFwahfuh I guess I knew why. Glass houses and all that stuff, eh. Let me know when one of your videos hits 4 million views and I'll do the same - at current rate on my leading vid, I'm hoping it will be sometime this summer. Regards from Canada, I remain yours sincerely, Shaky.

  • @alternativeaccount3e
    @alternativeaccount3e Před měsícem

    What uniform does Klaus Jager wear on T-34 end fight battle? I've been searching it for a months now

  • @SonarWavePulse
    @SonarWavePulse Před měsícem

    Very nice seeing this in a short format. Any chance of us getting similar videos for the other countries?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      It's possible, though the other nations seem to have had much less "churn." The Red Army famously reintroduced Czarist uniform styling at about the time of Stalingrad as a Hail Mary to build morale, but I believe it was their only major change. Likewise the British Army started the war with many units still wearing Service Dress, made battle dress universal, and only made one major change, with its economy version. The Canadians changed even less, with a single pattern of BD and a few changes of insignia. And the Yanks also started in what the Germans derided as 'golf clothes', with wool shirts and wind-cheater jackets and then went the very smart 1943 combat uniform with double-buckle boots replacing the ankle boots and gaiter. Having said all that, it might be interesting to compare the Allied nations side by side over the course of the war to contrast when all these changes happened. I'll have to think on it, thank you for the suggestion.

  • @Dilley_G45
    @Dilley_G45 Před měsícem

    12:45 also named "Gefrierfleischorden" ("frozen meat decoration")

  • @SmittyMRE
    @SmittyMRE Před měsícem

    10-4 good buddy!

  • @whya2ndaccount
    @whya2ndaccount Před měsícem

    FYI, from an Australian standpoint - R = Romeo. Roger = received and understood. Wilco = Received and will comply (in response to an order). No "Roger that", nor "Copy".

  • @firealjx
    @firealjx Před měsícem

    Just a video idea, but can you do a uniform video of the german tropical uniforms?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      I was actually thinking about this the other day. I found some references to them in the operations log of the Hand Grenade Division (65. Infanterie Division) and I would like to do something at some point about "summer dress' in Italy. Thanks for the suggestion - if I can find some decent references - and the time - it's on my short list.

  • @MarkAnthonyHenderson
    @MarkAnthonyHenderson Před měsícem

    Thank you for the accuracy. We carried our weapons usually under our firing arm, or resting on our ammo pouches (lazy or tired), not at any recognizable "Ready" position during my first enlistment in the US Army. I did learn of high ready until 1983.

  • @MarkAnthonyHenderson
    @MarkAnthonyHenderson Před měsícem

    I entered active duty in the US Army (101st ABN (Air Assault), 9th Infantry Div,. and 2nd Infantry DIv.) in 1978. I never heard "Roger That" once. I left the Army in 1985 only to reenlist in 1998, and by then It was used widely.

  • @christophergervais7452
    @christophergervais7452 Před měsícem

    Roger should be followed by an over or an out on tactical land nets. Air transmissions routinely dont include overs and outs.

  • @mdpetty53
    @mdpetty53 Před měsícem

    I was a helicopter (where radio coms were everything) in Vietnam...72...late in the war. Roger That was commonly used for understood...received...whatever. But in WWII? Nope. What gets me is the use of "incoming" for pretty much everything. In WWII "incoming mail" for enemy artillery was fairly common (I think) But "incoming" for flak or fighters in WWII...uh, No way. Even in Vietnam one would never hear incoming for ground fire or AAA.

  • @majorhicksusmc
    @majorhicksusmc Před měsícem

    In Vietnam we said “Roger that,” on the radio all the time. I served with Delta Company 1st Bn 3rd Marines, Vietnam 66-67, or as we would say “Delta one three.” “Roger that” confirms that the person receiving the message fully 😮understands it. Either way it’s not a big deal, nor something anyone in the military, who has spoken on a radio, even thinks about. We don’t use the term “over and out.” When you transmit “over” it means you are expecting a response. When you say “out,” you are terminating the message. So “over and out” is inconsistent with both “over”and “out.” In addition, when you are communicating with one station on one topic, e.g., a call for fire, or a “9-line brief” to an aircraft, we dispense with the over. Dale Dye is the military advisor to Masters of the Air. I trust his research and experience more than I trust people complaining about what they have seen on Masters of the Air. If you read the book, you will find that the 100th Bomb Group only plays a part of the story of the 8th Air Force bombing campaign. They didn’t even suffer the worst one day losses. That title belongs to a B-24 outfit. Even Harry Crosby acknowledges this in his book, as well as acknowledging that they did have some the worst loses at that time frame, mid 1943 to the end of 1943, when the first got to England and began flying missions and before the introduction of long range escort, and not only P-51s, but P-47s and P-38s, when they began to be equipped with drop tanks. I’ve been watching it and I think it is very good in capturing the life of WW2 bomber combat crews. Is it perfect? No, but neither was “Saving Private Ryan,” a fake story with terrible tactics (we don’t put machine guns in church steeples), or “Band of Brothers,” which makes Easy Company appear to win WW2 when in fact it was their first combat action as opposed to the many Army Infantry Division that were in combat since North Africa, Sicily and Italy, or the “Pacific.” But, what they all have done is give those who have never served, some small idea, a very small idea, what it is like to serve in combat, which is a gut wrenching, soul shattering, and life long lasting experience that never goes away.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      No quibbles with most of what you say, though worth noting Dale Dye was the senior advisor on SPR. No idea how much of the "terrible tactics" were attributable to him as opposed to the script writer and director, but I've seen at the very least the idea that Hawkins mines could be turned into ad hoc command-detonated claymores laid at his feet. I'd suggest he's as susceptible to conflating modern practice with 1940s practice as anyone commenting here. For what it is worth, I've enjoyed all the films you mention. That doesn't mean discussions of authenticity aren't worth having. In fact, I've always felt that it should be taken for granted that films will get many things wrong in the sake of story-telling, and that audiences should use them as a springboard to books and memoirs to get the "real" story.

    • @majorhicksusmc
      @majorhicksusmc Před měsícem

      @@HandGrenadeDivision Thanks for the response. Dale Dye has stated on more than one occasion that when authenticity bumps against what the director or the screen writer wants, then authenticity loses. His job was to minimize the loss. He also knows better than to put a machine gun in a tower as they did in SPR. Machine guns are most effective when they provide grazing fire and not as a point weapon, a lesson learned in WW1. They also operate in pairs. The bridge in SPR is a choke point, knock out the tank at the entrance, and if you can’t, you blow it. Either way you deny access to the bridge. In addition, whether the bridge remained intact or not was not important as every American, British and Canadian division had Bailey Bridges (a British invention) that could be quickly, hours not days, or constructed by engineers( they are still used). But, I understand that doing it the way it was done in SPR is much more dramatic. In the Battle of the Bulge the engineers blew every bridge they came across, thus slowing down the Germans advance, and earning Pipers disparaging comment “Those damn engineers.” In Normandy, the biggest problem for the allies were not finding a bridge, but the Bocage County, i.e., the hedge rows that made every field a major battle. Instead of resorting to fiction, the film maker could have easily told a true story about actual courage and sacrifice. There were 10 Medal of Honor recipients between June 6 and June 11, 1944. Any one of their stories would have honored all those who served there, for example Walter Ehlers had been with the 1st Infantry Division since North Africa, and his brother was killed on D-Day. Thanks for posting, I enjoy reading your comments and the comments of others. I agree with you that if you really want to know what happened read a history book.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      Since we're bashing SPR I'll share my favourite nit. The idiotic MG scene at the radar site. Obviously the plot demanded that someone die. Now, as you state well, MGs are valuable assets and rarely left out in the middle of nowhere alone. The scene as depicted made no sense. But you could have had all the important story elements intact if you had decided to have Miller order them through a suspected minefield to save time. In fact, the story begins with Hanks' character telling Dennis Farina's (too-old) colonel that they lost men to minefields in the fighting right after D-Day. What a great setup. You have all the dramatic elements - Miller orders them to do something risky, someone gets killed, Ed Burns' character freaks out, then the dramatic reveal of Miller's background. And you'd also lose the dumb "Steamboat Willie" subplot which ends with Upham redeeming himself - by committing a war crime against someone just doing his job. Long story short, I have a lot of issues with the movie, but the social impact of the film seems to outweigh all that. It put World War II veterans very firmly back in the public consciousness and did a great deal to promote memory of the war when it was starting to fade out. The online community that built up around the film made me friends I still have 25 years later.

    • @majorhicksusmc
      @majorhicksusmc Před měsícem

      @@HandGrenadeDivision I agree. I couldn’t understand why they took on one MG guarding a bombed radar cite when their order was to find Ryan. The excuse that someone else would have to do it is weak. If a rifle company had come upon it, the company commander (And I was a rifle company commander) would either use his 60mm mortars (a company commander’s hip pocket artillery). or a couple of rifle grenades. It was unnecessary to do a frontal attack, except to get someone killed as you point out. Even with all its flaws, and there are many (it’s Hollywood after all) I also agree with you that I’m glad it was made so the remaining WW2 vets could be honored. I won’t hold my breath for something like that happening for Vietnam vets.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      Welcome home.

  • @KevinSmith-yh6tl
    @KevinSmith-yh6tl Před měsícem

    I didn't think my comment was so shitty it would get removed.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      Haven't removed any comments on this one, at least not yet. Post it again and if it is on topic, informative and/or funny without being profane or attacking other commenters, odds are it will stay.

    • @KevinSmith-yh6tl
      @KevinSmith-yh6tl Před měsícem

      @@HandGrenadeDivision Nope, I didn't use profanity, Violent terms or ANYTHING RACIST. Just a compliment on the vid and a quick story of mine, inline with the topic. I commented early this morning when the vid dropped.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      Honestly, I never saw it. Must be a glitch - please try again.

    • @KevinSmith-yh6tl
      @KevinSmith-yh6tl Před měsícem

      @@HandGrenadeDivision No problem. See you next vid. 👍

    • @apropercuppa8612
      @apropercuppa8612 Před měsícem

      CZcams does this all the time, lol.

  • @maxkennedy8075
    @maxkennedy8075 Před měsícem

    “Roger, Roger, can you get us our vector, Victor? Yes we got clearance Clarence”

  • @ethanmcfarland8240
    @ethanmcfarland8240 Před měsícem

    “Who the hell is Rodger?”

  • @mikeareno7406
    @mikeareno7406 Před měsícem

    I was Active Navy for 20 years and “Roger That” originated in the Navy in the Vietnam era meaning you understood the order instead of Roger Wilco which was Air Force speak for the same thing

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      Interesting, thank you. Dale Dye, the Marine veteran who was the military advisor on Platoon, apparently got some flak for having the soldiers refer to the helicopters as "Helos" which apparently was also a Navy/USMC term.

  • @Bigrago1
    @Bigrago1 Před měsícem

    Considering how much went into this show, "Roger that" is probably something that slipped under the radar during pre-production. Mistakes happen all the time with these big budget films and shows with hundreds of people running around.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      I wonder if it didn't happen on set, with actors who have heard the phrase all the time and used it naturally. There may well be a script writer or two cringing in their media room as they see the final product.

    • @Bigrago1
      @Bigrago1 Před měsícem

      @HandGrenadeDivision possibly, another answer may be that it came from Dale Dye, who was an advisor on the film, though I'm assuming it was more with army lingo rather than how to operate a B-17. And since he's a Vietnam vet, he may have picked it up during his service and told it to the actors.

  • @seegurke93
    @seegurke93 Před měsícem

    As an airline pilot we use roger and Wilco and affirm and negativ i hate whenever they say roger that in the movies. Its laughably wrong and so damn easy to fix but they dont...just lazy writing

  • @esbendit
    @esbendit Před měsícem

    Since phonetic alphabets were far from standardised at the time, we can somewhat narrow down the timing. Roger was used by the US navy from the twenties, but only adopted by the army and the british later (39 for the army and 43 for the british). It was droped for the modern romeo in 56. This indicates that the jargon was either from ww2 or the korean was and if interwar, likely from the US navy, or associated branches such as the marines or naval aviation. It is unlikely to have been an independent british development later adopdet by US troops.

  • @andrejmichal4676
    @andrejmichal4676 Před měsícem

    Did I hear Roger wilco? 😅

  • @stevebailey325
    @stevebailey325 Před měsícem

    It’s been a while, but when I was training on my private pilots certification I was told you could only real use roger, meaning received , with “will comply” the distinction being you heard a direction and we’re going to do it.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před měsícem

      When I did the Canadian tactical dismounted signalers course, I was led to believe in the infantry context you could even just say "Wilco" on its own since it also communicated the fact that you had heard the previous transmission (or else, why would you comply with it?) Very interesting to see all the different perspectives in the comments (army, navy, airforce, commercial airline, private pilot, etc.)

  • @CaptainAhab117
    @CaptainAhab117 Před měsícem

    It would fit the period since it uses the pre-NATO phonetic alphabet.

  • @zombeyfreak7162
    @zombeyfreak7162 Před měsícem

    "Roger that!" "Roger what?"

  • @billmorrow1378
    @billmorrow1378 Před měsícem

    Proud to be the son of a soldier from the SSR. It was very hard to ever get my dad to talk about this. But he opened up about Westorbork one day with great emotion. Thanks for this very well done video

  • @user-gm5bv2ez2r
    @user-gm5bv2ez2r Před 2 měsíci

    hmmm I carried my 240B in Iraq like a mountain man carried his Hawken

  • @joygamesinteractive
    @joygamesinteractive Před 2 měsíci

    great vid!

  • @SCjunk
    @SCjunk Před 2 měsíci

    Actually postwar many M1918 helms had the brow ridge removed, so that would be from 1919 onwards.

  • @joshualevy3634
    @joshualevy3634 Před 2 měsíci

    One of the best vids on youtube

  • @tostie3110
    @tostie3110 Před 2 měsíci

    The haunting score is so classic. All older media used to have this

  • @HunterLord458
    @HunterLord458 Před 2 měsíci

    I wonder if any Germans survived Charles Upham's VC and Bar

  • @nicholasshaler7442
    @nicholasshaler7442 Před 2 měsíci

    There are two instances of a father and son receiving the Medal of Honor down here in the States. One of them is Teddy Roosevelt and his son.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před 2 měsíci

      One guesses you are not a McArthur fan.... Teddy Roosevelt, Jr., is a fascinating study in leadership. The photos of his funeral in Normandy are also amazing, given the celebrity and rank of his honorary pallbearers.

    • @nicholasshaler7442
      @nicholasshaler7442 Před 2 měsíci

      @@HandGrenadeDivision I’m a big McArthur fan. I also just happen to know that fact. It also helped growing up somewhere where the main street was named after him.

    • @nicholasshaler7442
      @nicholasshaler7442 Před 2 měsíci

      @@HandGrenadeDivision I’m a big McArthur fan. I also just happen to know that fact. It also helped growing up somewhere where the main street was named after him.

  • @NikhilSingh-007
    @NikhilSingh-007 Před 2 měsíci

    😊

  • @ProtazyS
    @ProtazyS Před 2 měsíci

    Would it be possible to make a video about Beamten and Sonderführers?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před 2 měsíci

      It's a topic I'm also interested in, so possibly. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @wolfthegreat87
    @wolfthegreat87 Před 2 měsíci

    A lovely video. I have a question, if you'd be willing to humor me: generally, there seems to be a perception that even the Knight's Cross was a more commonly awarded medal than the Victoria Cross, and I too tend to assume that for reasons I don't quite understand. Do you think this perception is justified, or is it an unjustified assumption?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před 2 měsíci

      I was going to do the math once but never got around to it. I did do a comparison once upon a time on the "supreme awards" given for ground combat in North Africa and Italy. I counted 60 VC, 74 Medals of Honor, and about 90 Knight's Crosses. The problem here is that the Knight's Cross was also given for leadership, not just bravery in combat. The US and British had separate awards for leadership - the Distinguished Service Order (DSO) for the British for example. It makes it difficult to compare directly, and especially because you couldn't get the Knight's Cross without first getting the EK II and EK I though in rare cases concurrent awards were made. Having said all that, at least in the Mediterranean, the Allies gave out 1.5 times as many supreme awards for ground combat than the Germans. Some might say the Germans were defending which made it more difficult, but both the men in this video were rewarded for defensive actions. It's a good question.

    • @wolfgangthiele9147
      @wolfgangthiele9147 Před 2 měsíci

      7175 Knight's Cross (basic grade) were awarded in WWII. The Victoria Cross was awarded 181 times. Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves: 863 Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves and Swords: 143 Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds: 27 Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds: 1 (to Hans-Ulrich Rudel)

    • @SaintJavelin2022
      @SaintJavelin2022 Před 2 měsíci

      @wolfthegreat87 If we exclude the KC awards given to commanders, then probably not. The VC and KC are not exact equivalents, which makes comparison difficult at times, but in terms of their prestige I’d say they’re about the same. The reason so many KCs were given out is simply because Germany had so many more soldiers involved in active combat compared to Britain, and the fighting they were forced to endure was far more brutal.

  • @franciszeklatinik889
    @franciszeklatinik889 Před 2 měsíci

    Fascinating coincedence