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I’m still rocking the escalante 3 and Torin 5 😂

Hi, Is Escalante much narrower than Loan Peak 8?

It's hard to understand the info they are giving on their website in terms of fit. Torin is standard and escalante original. But i see they look the same here while some people call them standard fit. I have wide feet so i need the widest option.

Hope The Badger goes to plan.

Both good shoes with different uses, yet some overlap. I wouldn't use the Escalante for long runs, and I wouldn't use the Torin for uptempo workouts. Else, they're interchangeable for daily training.

Nice review, Jay. Rabbit is one of those lifestyle apparel companies that's getting into running shoes.

It was great seeing you, Jay, this past weekend. Wishing you the best at Badger!!

Good luck Jay. You will do well.

Good luck with the Badger hope it all goes well. enjoy and do your best. you got this 👍🏃🏅

I was wondering when the next update was upcoming. Thanks for sharing.

I just bought the + version of this on amazon, is there a difference> I saw they were 10 bucks more than the go air sport regulars. I cannot find any info about this

Not heard about fit comparison v3 vs v4...fit the same? Toe box width comparoson? Length?

Living out in the middle of nowhere, a headlamp is vital. You don't know what sort of fauna you will run into. Thanks, Jay.

I got this treadmill and it's too big to get through our doorways of our house. It's still in the garage Any ideas?

Have you noticed any difference in the foam life? I have had some of the early Topo's and the foam wasn't my favorite ride. Magnafly, Phantom 2, magnafly 2. Interested to try the cyclone ride. Looks like you've already worn thru the cyclone outsole. Looking more as a daily trainer use. Cyclone may not hold up long if used for that i suppose.

I can only speak to the Cyclone 2, which I enjoy. Thx, Jay.

What are a good pair of Topos for standing around all day?

Wait, isn't commando underwear an oxymoron?

I wear compression underwear under my shorts as well. Highly recommend for any workouts, not just running.

Had you asked me a decade ago, I would have said Altra. But since the VF Corp buyout, Altra has changed. Now I have to say Topo.

Thanks for the review! Would you say it runs smaller or a larger side for it's size? I'm In between medium and large.

The Badger is getting close now Jay, good idea to test out the gear, at least you got the 1/2 ticked off & you're confident with the kit 👍

Question: if you have a size 42 foot. Do you buy a Large (42-44) and cut off a piece with a scissor? Or how does it work? I have size 44/44.5 and I don't know what size to buy.

Very good video thank you so much!

Compliments to the volunteers of this Hell's Half Acre Marathon. That's true commitment working overnight. I hope you remembered to lube up the hotspots. 😅

Keep pushing through, you're doing great, Jay. Looking forward to seeing how your journey unfolds!

Wow, your commitment to those 18.1 miles on a treadmill deserves major props, Jay! Watching the Western States livestream to stay engaged was a stroke of genius. Keep rocking those long runs and staying strong in the heat. You're crushing it!

New heel lugs look beefed up

Nice compairson. I've enjoyed the 3s, although I noticed that there is a crease between the big toe and 2nd toe. I can see a slight crease in your 3s as well. Wondered if they fixed that in the 4s. Super comfortable on road though, so I'm going for the 4s regardless!

Can't beat Balega socks. They're plush, and they last for hundreds of miles.

how do they compare to topo's magnifly 5? i swear by the escalante racers but want to try other options

The differences between the Escalante & the Rivera always befuddled me. Thx, Jay.

Please compare Magnifly vs. Escalante

It's always a sad day when a shoe reaches end-of-life. But, there's a certain satisfaction placing them into the shoe recycling bin at my local running shoe store. I know that someone somewhere will get as much enjoyment out of them as I did.

Topos usually fit me well, but this shoe was too narrow even though I sized up. Not in the forefoot, but in the anterior medial midfoot. The ball of my foot, the base joint of my first toe really, just overlaps the sole and starts to hurt after 500 meters. Loving my Cyclone 2, no such problem there. Altras neither. Never had this with any other shoe, really, not even "normal" road or traul shoes.

18 miles on a treadmill...thats dedication.

I’m going through the same, Jay! I have had a hard time motivating myself to go out for my runs in this humidity. I’ve been doing more strength training in the meantime. Wishing you the best at the Badger! I know you will get it done!

I feel your pain. It's been triple digits going into the teens here in NorCal. Makes training a challenge since I disdain the dreadmill. Cheers, Jay.

Did you run with one model on one for and the other model on the other foot to feel the difference? I have Escalante 3 for less than a year and I look forward to buying Escalate 4 as soon as they are available here in Malaysia (or on Amazon…)

Which is softer? The specter or the phantom 3?

Which one feels softer?

Doing that "mommy look what I can do" jump

So helpful! Now I’m going to buy a pair of

I’m starting to like topo more than altra the only road shoe from altra I can really enjoy is the escalante 3 the I’ve had problems with early outsole wear on the torin and Rivera

I did my first run in them today on my trip to Indiana. Thanks for fitting them for me! LISTEN TO THIS MAN! He knows trail shoes!!!

Nice comparison, Jay.

According to runrepeat teardown, the 3 weighs 9.5 ounce and the 4 weighs 8.4 ounce for a US 9. I remember reading somewhere at an Altra fans page that Altra is not using the weight of a US 9 now. And both 4 and Racer 2 are listed as original fit on Altra website. Runrepeat teardown supported that, their widest point at the toebox best that of Olympus

According to runrepeat teardown, the 3 weighs 9.5 ounce and the 4 weighs 8.4 ounce for a US 9. I remember reading somewhere at an Altra fans page that Altra is not using the weight of a US 9 now. And both 4 and Racer 2 are listed as original fit on Altra website. Runrepeat teardown supported that, their widest point at the toebox best that of Olympus

19th done ! Super content, stay connected! New supporter friend here.

does it fit true to size?