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théorbe de pièces: Gigue angloise de Mr. de Visée
I wonder why it is named „Gigue angloise“?
Is it because the pieces feature harmonic sequences, as is also noticeable in anonymous French baroque guitar sources when „English“ is used in the title? Or is it because of the difference in dance itself, dance choreography, or tempo? As if English gigue was slightly slower and had more downbeat feel in the middle of the bar? Or perhaps because it is a second gigue in the suite and therefor it was deemed English since only in the British Isles they wouldn't mind dancing two jigs in a row?
By looking at „Gigue a la maniere engloise“ on page 46 of the livre de guitarre (1682), I cannot find any obvious answer or similarities. This gigue is shorter, simetrical, and set as sometimes Gigues by de Visee are in 3/8 instead of 6/8.
Anyway, this is a beautiful movement full of joy that comes before music galanterie such as three gavottes and three airs written in a dark, sad key.
From the 1716. publication (pieces de Teorbe et de Lute mises en partition), six movements (Allemade „La Conversation“, Sarabande, two gigues, and three gavottes) correlate with tabulatures for theorbo from Vaudry de Saizenai manuscript (1699), where these are listed in the key of G minor. It was a common practice when transcribing works for theorbo (and vice versa) to transpose the music down a fourth. Incidentally, playing these pieces on théorbe de pièces (a theorbo with smaller mensure tuned in D, a fourth higher than the bigger thoerbo) puts the music back in C minor.
The key of C minor was dark and sad key. Three of the four allemandes printed in the 1716. collection are Tombeaus (Tombeau de But, Tombeau de Fonty, and Tombeau de Mr. Francisque Corbet). There was only one key de Visee used to express more darkness and sorow-in F minor he wrote Tobeau de Madmoaselles de Visee, the daughters of the author (Allemande la Plainte).
Robert de Visée (c. 1655 - 1732/1733) was a lutenist, guitarist, theorbist and viol player at the court of the French kings Louis XIV and Louis XV, as well as a singer, teacher and composer for lute, theorbo and guitar.
Andrej Jovanić plays Allemand on théorbe de pièces.
Is it because the pieces feature harmonic sequences, as is also noticeable in anonymous French baroque guitar sources when „English“ is used in the title? Or is it because of the difference in dance itself, dance choreography, or tempo? As if English gigue was slightly slower and had more downbeat feel in the middle of the bar? Or perhaps because it is a second gigue in the suite and therefor it was deemed English since only in the British Isles they wouldn't mind dancing two jigs in a row?
By looking at „Gigue a la maniere engloise“ on page 46 of the livre de guitarre (1682), I cannot find any obvious answer or similarities. This gigue is shorter, simetrical, and set as sometimes Gigues by de Visee are in 3/8 instead of 6/8.
Anyway, this is a beautiful movement full of joy that comes before music galanterie such as three gavottes and three airs written in a dark, sad key.
From the 1716. publication (pieces de Teorbe et de Lute mises en partition), six movements (Allemade „La Conversation“, Sarabande, two gigues, and three gavottes) correlate with tabulatures for theorbo from Vaudry de Saizenai manuscript (1699), where these are listed in the key of G minor. It was a common practice when transcribing works for theorbo (and vice versa) to transpose the music down a fourth. Incidentally, playing these pieces on théorbe de pièces (a theorbo with smaller mensure tuned in D, a fourth higher than the bigger thoerbo) puts the music back in C minor.
The key of C minor was dark and sad key. Three of the four allemandes printed in the 1716. collection are Tombeaus (Tombeau de But, Tombeau de Fonty, and Tombeau de Mr. Francisque Corbet). There was only one key de Visee used to express more darkness and sorow-in F minor he wrote Tobeau de Madmoaselles de Visee, the daughters of the author (Allemande la Plainte).
Robert de Visée (c. 1655 - 1732/1733) was a lutenist, guitarist, theorbist and viol player at the court of the French kings Louis XIV and Louis XV, as well as a singer, teacher and composer for lute, theorbo and guitar.
Andrej Jovanić plays Allemand on théorbe de pièces.
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théorbe de pièces: Courante de Mr. de Visée
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Courante by Robert de Visée from Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript. One of 17 pieces listed in the key of G. re sol mineur. Robert de Visée (c. 1655 - 1732/1733) was a lutenist, guitarist, theorbist and viol player at the court of the French kings Louis XIV and Louis XV, as well as a singer, teacher and composer for lute, theorbo and guitar. Andrej Jovanić plays Allemand on théorbe de pièces.
théorbe de pièces: Allemande 'La Conversation' de Mr. de Visée
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Are you interested in comparing tabulature reading of Allemande “La Conversation” by Robert de Visée from Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript with “Pièces de théorbe et de luth mises en partition, dessus et basse”, printed in Paris in 1716., while at the same time very, very slowly reading the Advertissement? I would love to learn more of this Allemandes history. It first appears in tabulature for ba...
théorbe de pièces: Gavotte en Rondeau de Mr. de Visée
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Gavotte on page 375 (Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript). One of three gavottes, part of 17 pieces listed in the key of G. re sol mineur. In this recording it sounds in C minor because of the higher tuning of théorbe de pièces. Why is it called G.re sol tierce mineure?
théorbe de pièces: Pavane - Luis Milán
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Pavane by Luis Milán (El Maestro - Libro de Música de Vihuela da mano, 1536) arranged in french tabulature by Andrej Jovanić Thanks to Pexels for free video material.
théorbe de pièces: Gavotte (II) de Mr. de Visée
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Gavotte on page 380 (Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript). One of three gavottes, part of 17 pieces listed in the key of G. re sol mineur. The same gavotte may be found in 1686 Livre de pièces pour la guitare. In this recording it sounds in C minor because of the higher tuning of théorbe de pièces. Thanks to Pexels.com for free video material.
théorbe de pièces: Pavane I - Luis Milán
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Pavane by Luis Milán (El Maestro - Libro de Música de Vihuela da mano, 1536) arranged in french tabulature by Andrej Jovanić
théorbe de pièces: L'autre jour m'allant promener, mis par Mr. de Visée
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L'autre jour m'allant promener on page 381 (Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript). Part of 17 pieces listed in the key of G. re sol mineur. In this recording it is played with B flat in the low octave instead of B natural suggested by the tablature and it sounds in C minor because of the higher tuning of théorbe de pièces.
théorbe de pièces: Gavotte de Mr. de Viseé
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Reading of gavotte on page 380 (Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript). Part of three gavottes, one in rondeau, of 17 pieces listed in the key of G. re sol mineur. In this recording Gavotte sounds in C minor because of the higher tuning of théorbe de pièces.
théorbe de pièces: Prelude de Mr. de Viseé
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This is a reading of prelude on page 381 of the Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript. It is part of 17 pieces listed in the key of G. re sol mineur. The prelude hire sounds in C minor because of the higher tuning of théorbe de pièces.
théorbe de pièces: Reading of G minor Sarabande de Mr. de Viseé
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This is the second Sarabande on page 380 of the Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript. It is part of 17 pieces listed in the key of G re sol mineur. Only two other “suites” in the theorbe part of the manuscript have more movements: G re sol majeur has 20, D la re mineur has 22. In this reading it is transposed to C minor because of the higher tuning of théorbe de pièces.
DIALOGUS MUSICUS - J.B. Barrière - sonata a tre: aria, giga.
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With best New Year wishes! DIALOGUS MUSICUS: Jean-Christophe Frisch (France) - Traverso flute Andrej Jovanić (Serbia) - Théorbe de pièces, Guitarre baroque Đorđe Milošević (Serbia) - Baroque cello Concert recording at Church of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Great square in Zemun (Belgrade, Serbia).
Chaconne - Michel de la Barre - DIALOGUS MUSICUS
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CONCERT DIALOGUS MUSICUS: Jean-Christophe Frisch (France) - Traverso flute Andrej Jovanić (Serbia) - Théorbe de pièces, Guitarre baroque Đorđe Milošević (Serbia) - Baroque cello Concert recording at Church of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Great square in Zemun (Belgrade, Serbia).
Jean-Baptiste Barrière - Sonata a tre No. 2 en Ré Mineur, Livre III: IV. Giga
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Posle deset godina ponovo zajedno: Jean-Christophe Frisch (Francuska) - Traverso flute, Andrej Jovanić (Srbija) - Théorbe de pièces, Đorđe Milošević (Srbija) - Baroque cello, sa radošću na koncertu DIALOGUS MUSICUS, Crkva Uznesenja Blažene Djevice Marije, Veliki trg u Zemunu (Beograd, Srbija)
KОНЦЕРТ: DIALOGUS MUSICUS*
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Недеља, 17. септембар 2023. године у 20.00 часова Црква Узнесења Блажене Дјевице Марије Велики трг у Земуну Улаз је бесплатан Поводом 15. година рада Нимбус Арт-а и 25 година професионалног бављења раном музиком Андреја Јованића KОНЦЕРТ DIALOGUS MUSICUS * - Музички дијалог Жан-Кристоф Фриш (Француска) - траверзо флаута / Traverso Андреј Јованић (Србија) - француска теорба / French theorbo Ђорђе...
Chaconne: Le Cocq / Corbetta - guitarre baroque and theorbo
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Chaconne: Le Cocq / Corbetta - guitarre baroque and theorbo
Concert invitation - Dialogus musicus - Jean-Christophe Frisch, Andrej Jovanić, Đorđe Milošević
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Concert invitation - Dialogus musicus - Jean-Christophe Frisch, Andrej Jovanić, Đorđe Milošević
La Montfermeil, Rondeau de Mr. de Viseé - E. si mi mineur - Théorbe de pièces
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La Montfermeil, Rondeau de Mr. de Viseé - E. si mi mineur - Théorbe de pièces
Menuet en Rondeau de Mr. de Viseé - G. re sol majeur - Théorbe de pièces
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Menuet en Rondeau de Mr. de Viseé - G. re sol majeur - Théorbe de pièces
Allemande de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
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Allemande de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
Chaconne: François Le Cocq (1729) / Francesco Corbetta (1674)
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Chaconne: François Le Cocq (1729) / Francesco Corbetta (1674)
Chaconne: Mr. François Le Cocq (1729) - Guitarre baroque
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Chaconne: Mr. François Le Cocq (1729) - Guitarre baroque
Courante de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
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Courante de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
Allemande de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur, 1699.
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Allemande de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur, 1699.
Sarabande de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
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Sarabande de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
Chaconne des Harlequins de Mr. de Lully mise per Mr. de Viseé - théorbe de pièces
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Chaconne des Harlequins de Mr. de Lully mise per Mr. de Viseé - théorbe de pièces
Gigue de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
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Gigue de Mr. de Viseé - D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
Prelude de Mr. de Viseé D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
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Prelude de Mr. de Viseé D. la re majeur - théorbe de pièces
Entreé des Espagnols de Mr. de Lully mise par Mr. de Viseé - théorbe de pièces
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Entreé des Espagnols de Mr. de Lully mise par Mr. de Viseé - théorbe de pièces
Menuet from G minor suite - Marin Marais - theorbo arrangement
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Menuet from G minor suite - Marin Marais - theorbo arrangement
There is another channel that also makes animations with 17th century engravings, can anyone get it for me?
Very beautiful sound 🙌💕✨️
@@panoramicviolinist Thanks. It's single large diaphragm mic (ADK old TL series) at 3 feet via old Focusrite Saffire pro24dsp preamp with three layers of -20db IR1 reverb set at SOH concert hall / York Minster England impulse responce.
@@nimbusartbelgrade Good to know. It works very well!
So beautiful, dream like 🙏
@@brianmullany9549 Thank you Brian.
great piece, great playing, great video with tab!
Glad you enjoy it@@danterosati
The little theorbo sounds great! Concerning your question about "G. re sol": the key denominations in the MS Saizenay use the old hexachord terminology from the modal counterpoint system of the sixtenth century. In this system, the note G could have different functions depending on the context: it can be a Ut when the context is G Major, a Sol when the context is C Major, or a Re when the context is G Minor. The third note after the Re is a Fa, therby resulting in a minor third (tierce mineur). It is weird that this system is used, because there are pieces in this MS in impossible keys from a 16c standpoint, e.g. F# Minor.
Very nicely done!
Thank you!
Artistic visuals and beautiful music 🌹
Thank you Jeanne ❤
Thank you!
Wonderfull!
Thank You!
I just struck gold apparently
Bravo Dialogus Musicus, nice sound and delicate interpretation.
Thank you Orpeheusnovus!
Fantastic! ❤
Thank you!
Mr. Francesco Corbetta (ca. 1615 - 1681) could not add his own variations to Mr. Le Cocq's Chaconne, because he was dead and had never heard Le Cocq's music. These Corbetta`s variations were added by the performer.
Yes, of course, the variations were added by me, the performer. I was not trying to be misleading. We can see many examples of chaconne variation patterns developing from many early guitar alfabeto and tablature sourcers... The composers and performers listen, inspire, borrow from each other. Thank heavens for that. If there were copyright claims and restrictions 400 years ago, our music heritage today would be significantly poorer. Music defeats all barriers. As is with culture. Once upon a time, an ancient culture made something beautiful and everyone who saw this wanted to have it, to copy it, to take it to their part of the world. Then after some time, it inspired them to change it slightly and develop it further. It is all quite natural. I simply imagined chaconne to be one of these beautiful things from the past which has inspired me to create this version in a certain moment in time. I trust a performer in XVII or XVIII century would have done "the same", changing the version slightly each time it is being played, similar to story-teller, orator or jazz musician might do today.
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are you playing theorbo with nails?
Yes, fingernails and strings at low tension.
no
sorry
This is amazing video art and screen dance! So beautiful!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Beautiful, thank you
please dont stop
I wont
im loved
of course
I've just discovered your channel, thank you very much for posting all this comfy music.
you are welcome
Where do you get the tablature for Corbetta’s 1674 guitarre royale, I’ve searched high and low and can’t find it.
Is it not on IMSLP? It ought to be really! I have it in a few pdf parts. Would be glad to share. Please send e mail address or contact me through Fb.
"A facsimile of the book without the second guitar part (presumably of the copy in the Civico Museo Bibliografico in Bologna) has been published by Forni Editore. A facsimile of the separate parts for the first twelve pieces was published by Studio per Edizioni Scelte in 1983. The second guitar part has been reproduced from the copy in the Bibliothèque nationale de France." I think this is from monicahall.co.uk/ or from James Tyler - A Guide to Playing the Baroque Guitar
It sounds much higher than most other theorbos I have ever heard. Is this tuned higher than usual tuning?
Yes, théorbe des pièces or "solo theorbo" or "lesser theorbo" is tuned a 4th higher then standard theorbo. It has shorter string lenght of about 74/126cm and is fit for lessons, solo playing but also accompaniment. In opus of de Visee we often see pieces transposed down a forth for theorbo. This suite, which appears in 1716 edition as dessus & bass partition in D minor is in Saizenay MS in tablature listed in A minor. So it is quite possible that it was also played in this "higher" tuning, I think.
Why the writing on the video ? Beautiful playing and recording .
Its an experiment. I just found it interesting to see the text (program title, organizer, venue etc.) through the video.
I understand now . Thankyou
Bravoo!!
Thanks
Bravo Andreje, beautiful sound and refined touch!
Thank you so much for that. What a lovely little project.
Inspiring
Bravo Andreje, dobro zvuči ovo dvoje u-jedno(m:)
Mogli bi i zajedno da probamo, čini mi se da sam malo uvežbao ;)
@@nimbusartbelgrade pa mogli bismo, najbolje u živo u BG
Lovely instrument. Beautufully played, who made the instrument?
théorbe des pieces by Ivo Magerini
Beautifully played!!!
Thank you!
Bravo Andreje! Two in one :) pozdrav, Skitnica
Hvala prijatelju!
superbe ! bravo
Thank you Gilles!
Bravo ! Love it
Thank you Bruno!
👏👏👏
Wow great tone!
Thank you.
👍
👏👏👏
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Thank you for the beautiful playing and video!
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gostei do estilo e também da pesquisa do instrumento
Jako lijepo i vrlo poučno! 👏👏👏
Very beautiful!
Izvrsno! Baš uživam slušati! 👏
Hvala prijatelju!
Divno! Bravo!
Hvala kolega!
Excellent Thank you!
Prelijepo! 👏👏👏
😃 Bravo! 👏
Predivno! Bravo! 👏👏👏
Hvala kolega!