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V2 has a black logo, whereas a red one for V1.

I guess to each their own, some prefers more control this way. 😉

Medium to dark roast

Yes I adjusted my OPV. The original setting should be around 10.5 bar if I remembered clearly.

Hello. Yes it is.

Thank you for the quick response... We recently purchased LMX V2 and installed a grouphead thermometer... I have the same settings and when the machine is switched ON in the morning... temperature is within the 92-93 degrees Celsius, Steam pressure sits at 1.4-1.5 bars... Temp ramps up to 97 98, sometimes 100 102 Celsius when pulling a shot... Is this normal?

Not really sure. Nespresso? 😅 But proper warmup is essential to good coffee and having a smart plug is useful in such situation.

@lecongdon From Lelit is it Anita with build in grinder. Not the best of the best, but preheat is quick for quick morning espresso with rich crema.

Thanks for watching and the kind words! Yes, the OPV can be regulated to control the brew pressure by turning the valve clockwise / anticlockwise with a small spanner.

It's not really a backflush but a trick to boost the steam pressure.

Hi, I have no issue with four back-to-back shots in X-Mode Steam (1) using the same bean.

@@bunbunespresso8124 thanks. So just pull and shot for 4 espresso in row and the brew head temp is stable enough to have any noticeable differences, right?

Yes, no difference for me, and I don't think the vast majority would be able to tell any difference in a blind taste test.

@@bunbunespresso8124 thanks a lot

Hi, there is a manufacturer's label on the machine with info on the serial number and production year.

Totally!

@@bunbunespresso8124 and totally worth getting!

@@ironmantooltime J Just for that feature upgrade from V1? Nup.

@@geokar the thing pumps out water constantly. Sure swapping a v1 for a v2 just for that would be questionable. Is it worth $100? Easily.

I believe that the steam pressure increases only after you brew the coffee. When you lift the lever, the heating element is off (you may notice slight drop in steam pressure during coffee brewing).

It's my first espresso machine. I can vouch that the steam pressure is great for the MaraX...I'm not too sure about GCP though.

Hi, it is the same - stainless steel boiler.

Same here

Hi, you may want to check if your standby mode is disabled.

I am thinking of getting the Mara X v2 but a bit concerned with the 25min warm up time

How cold are your mornings 😆? I always leave my MaraX to warm up for at least 30 minutes to get the cup tray really hot and the E61 grouphead evenly heated.

@@kamanhalim sorry, i just calculate and it takes only 12 minutes bro. Dont worry about it

@@bunbunespresso8124 pretty warm here in southeast asia

@@VuTran-on1gg thanks! Much appreciated

Thanks for watching. I take it as a compliment! 🤣 Tough decision!

@@bunbunespresso8124 Welcome. No kidding - I forgot to mention the prices, the Sage is $850 new here while the Mara X is either $920 (with the wrong plug) or $1280 (right plug) :) Honestly I think I will only know whether I made the right decision several years after the purchase... so see you then!

The Sage dual boiler is definitely a steal! The Sage has the modern tech like a smartwatch, while the MaraX has the classic beauty like a mechanical watch. I think they are both great tools and you will enjoy with either one. Good luck and cheers!

@@bunbunespresso8124 That is an amazing analogy 😂 I actually decided to wait on an espresso machine, I am going to buy a decent grinder first - I'm settled on the Eureka Oro Mignon Stark 65 based on the price ($490 for me) and feature set. While I wait to see how prices develop I can learn the ropes playing around with grinds for my moka pot and Aeropress :)

@@bunbunespresso8124 Sooooo in the end I did get the dual boiler. It went on sale for $800 from a local retailer and I folded like a deck of cards! I'm looking forward to it :) But you know that technically, whether you buy a Breville or a Lelit nowadays, you're getting a Breville... 😅

Hi, the steam pressure will still increase in Xmode Coffee (0), it is just that it's more controlled as heating element will be turned off during coffee brewing (when lever is lifted). Are you on Temperature Setting (0)?

@@bunbunespresso8124 yes 0... But it is the steam boost... In the new v2 manual is this Described... When I do a shot, than go up the pressure to 1,5 ar for milk.

@@bunbunespresso8124 We can only use the temperature setting 0 for stability?

No really, but higher temp setting = higher steam pressure. The temperature setting controls the temperature range to allow you to brew coffee with different charateristics (light to dark roasts).

Hey there. Thanks for watching! So far so good - 6 months usage. 🙏👍

Tried but don't taste as good.

@@bunbunespresso8124 then you did the right thing. Achieving a 30 second extraction is only a guideline. Not a hard rule. Taste is king 🤴

@@bazzie85 Agree!

Hi @Morning Coffee, thanks for watching. The steam pressure will not always be at 0.5 bar in Coffee mode. You can actually "wake" the machine to spike its steam pressure by lifting and lowering the lever. The Coffee mode in V2 basically turns off the heating element when you brew coffee (when lever is lifted) to reduce risk of overheating. You can observe that in my video that steam pressure is down when brew lever is up and vice-versa.

It takes 30s or more for the steam boost to kick in, usually to 1.25 bar.

Thanks for watching @ngdilin. 🙂 My guess is that - since the machine is delivering more water (no puck resistance) for this video test, and also in "coffee xmode" (whereby heating element is off during brewing), this causes detection of temp difference between the 2 temp probes, therefore resulting in the blinking temp pilot light. But I don't think the flashing light in your first or second brew will screw up your coffee. You can try brewing at 0,6 bar steam or higher to experiment with it. Have fun & cheers!

Yes taste wise there is no difference I can detect. I agree with you that it could be due to the heating element being off.

Mine also blinking in xcoffee mode but pressure increase at 1,5 bar. Any Idea ?

Hello @cirus coffee. If you are referring to the software upgrade to V2, I believe that should be possible by switching out the software box.

Hi, it's the opposite if you refer to the latest user manual for this new version V2.

The pump is pretty quiet in real life.. one of the quietest in my opinion.

Hi @VIP Patient, yes it's different for V2 - the pure HX setting (0) in V1 is now gone and replaced with a new Coffee Mode which works like a single boiler with PID. Check out my other video on the new features. Cheers.

@@bunbunespresso8124 🙏

Hi, I'm not sure about the Chiara, but I suggest trying them both at your local store (if possible) to see what you like.

Im between Bezzera BZ10 and lelit v2 BZshorter heating time were Lelit seems to have the better water/ pressure pomp less noizy

Thanks for watching! ❤ I do not have the BBE but I've seen so many praises about it. If those you mentioned are hindering your joy of making a good cup, you may want to check out other machines to try out first before upgrading. I have no issue with steaming on my MaraX. It boils down to how you define upgrade. It could mean better technical function, or more enjoyable workflow, or better looks for some. Cheers! 😉

FYI, the Dual Boiler has a 58mm portafilter, so just speaking personally that is the one I would rather compare with the Lelit. Also the price has come down a lot on it (~$850 new where I live). Tough decision :)

@@Shadowguy456234 Yes, both are very capable machines for home use with 58mm portafilter. It really depends on your personal preference on their looks / function / price / workflow enjoyment etc.

Mara X is a definite upgrade. Another consideration is serviceability with the Lelit over the Breville, heat exchanger vs a single boiler. Join me in buying one of these beauties mate. I'll be getting one in the next couple of weeks - still agonising over which grinder to go with but leaning towards one of the Eurekas.

Hi, probably the Lelit wooden one if you have the wooden knob kit, or from Rocket if you prefer clean black design like me. There's too many including 3rd party ones out there and really depends on your personal preference! I'm not sure about nomcore but I guess it should fit if it's 58mm E61 compatible.

I bought this one, It's a black portafilter (PLA580B) for Bianca: 30.coffee/lelit-pla580b-bottomless-filterholder-with-black-walnut-wooden-handle It fit very well with Mara X as it's a 58mm.

Hi, yours should be a V2 since it's made in 2022. V2 comes with the black LELIT logo in front. Cheers!

@@bunbunespresso8124 I think the previous red embossed logo looked smarter - pity

Looks may be subjective 😄

Yes some will either love or hate them. Although it compliments the MaraX design, I agree that the short feet can be annoying when you need to move the machine around. I have added sliders to the feet to solve this. I got no issue with the drip tray footings. 😉

The feet are complete crap, yes. But I still love mine.

Usually medium and dark roasts for me.

There is no change in the OPV location. Mine was set at 10.1 bar from the factory, but I adjusted it to 9 bar.

Can you teach me how to adjust?

It's pretty simple. I can try making a video on this.

@@bunbunespresso8124 And for this , you will get my Sub. Have you done that video already ? Cheers.

Thanks for watching! Was the machine in Xmode Coffee (0) when you tested? I think that the temperature setting on 0 will range between 87°-93°, optimised at 90°.

@@bunbunespresso8124 yes. Xmode and in 0. But temperature way ober 90°. Minimum at 93°....sonsor problem?

I'm no expert to determine if it's a sensor fault. But u may try to get the temperature to stabilise first (make the machine idle awhile) before testing out again.

When you turn on the machine, leave it for 30 to 35 minutes, then start using it after that. The temperature should be stable at your desired setting

Enjoy!

Congrats and thanks for the kind words mate! I'm not sure who would buy the MaraX but not use its smart coffee priority mode that it's intended for, and to use the traditional uncontrolled HX mode. Therefore, the new software in V2 to remove the pure HX setting is a practical and more useful one in my opinion. I doubt anyone would miss the pure uncontrolled HX mode.

@@bunbunespresso8124 Thank you for your kind and fast response mate! I was reading/choosing a coffee machine and a grinder about 2 years before I pull a shot on Lelit MaraX and in the end I was kind of confused with the new “0 Xmode”. Thanks to you now getting even more anxious on delivery of that beauty :-)

Hii.. just want to ask. In prev version (v1) this machine when we used coffee priority (X mode) can boost steam pressure after brewing coffee or not?

Hi, I believe it's possible. U can try lifting the brew lever for few seconds and lowering it to see if there is any increase in steam pressure.

Thanks for watching. The Mara X group head is E61 but Lelit now calls it L58E group. It is typically similar using 58mm portafilter and accessories, but L58E group has a dedicated spare part kit by Lelit. I believe it is for the pre-infusion method which Mara X has to differentiate themselves from other standard E61.

Thanks, I believe the latest Gicar is 1.09.

@@bunbunespresso8124 Thanks - do you mean 1.90? I already have 1.23 from 2020!

1.09 from 2022

@@bunbunespresso8124 brill, thank you

Thanks for watching 🙂

Thanks for the feedback Ian! 🙏👊 Yes, I agree that there's not much info about the MaraX V2 yet. I hope this simple video helps a little!

Thank you! Cheers!

Hi. Yes, V1 and V2 have different modes. I use Brew (1), Temp (0) in my V2 MaraX. Mode 1 is basically the same (smart HX) for both V1 & V2. Mode 0 (used to be Steam mode = classic HX in V1) is gone and is now pure coffee mode with no steam priority / boost, it works like a single boiler under this mode in V2 which means even better temperature stability if you don't do milk drinks.

@@bunbunespresso8124 oh, I see. can you steaming and brewing at same time on your current setting ( brew '1', temp '0') ? in some others video, the steam pressure boost up after brewing (almost reach 2.75 bar I guess), he just simulate cafe situation, brew coffee back-to-back in a row, 2 espresso and 2 latte.

The Mara X is definitely capable to steam and brew at the same time. I steam my milk after brewing and the steam pressure is usually ready around 1.5 to 2 bar.

@@bunbunespresso8124 oke, nice to hear that. most of your video are 'espresso' only, haha, little bit struggle found video that talk about mara x v2. in my country, v1 is more cheaper than v2, and v2 is still pre order until 70 days for delivery. I want to buy one, to upgrade my current coffee appliances. thankyou for share your experience about this machine 👌

Haha, I do milk drinks occasionally. Just wait for the V2 there's no hurry. Otherwise, go for the V1 with a discount. Both are great machines especially for home use imo.

hi mrcreks, my current shots taste sweet and strong using this method, but let me try out your recommendation. Thanks for sharing! 👍

I always count from the first drop and the taste is wonderful.

@@morningcoffee1 Yes, counting from first drop method works best for me too. It's always fun to experiment different methods to find the one that you love most.

​@@bunbunespresso8124 I just bought marax. I think this machine takes more time to extablish 9 bar during extraction maybe beacause of the water flow or pump? My method is also around 50s and the expresso taste great.

Hi @jx mailbox, yes the built-in mechanical pre-infusion for the Mara X runs longer, usually around 15 seconds. What matters most should be whether you enjoy your coffee out of it. Enjoy your new setup!

Thank you for the kind words! I did not change the shower screen as I feel that the original one is good enough for my usage.