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Welcome to Banned Book Club where we believe that the most controversial books are often the best books. Join us as we dive into literature that has been good enough to raise the ire of governments, school-boards, and concerned parents all over the world. We hope that by the end of each episode you will agree with us on this point, if a book is banned its worth reading. Check out our podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and everywhere else you get your podcasts from!
Fight club - How the movie cheats the book
A double dip fight club episode about the unfortunate differences between the movie and its source material. In this episode Rafi is replaced by Thomas, who is a person that knows much about movies. We discuss David Fincher, China, Paradise Lost, A Clockwork Orange, and sigma males - all within the context of Fight Club. Hold on to your fedora as we sail into the abyss.
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0:00 Introduction / Key difference between book and novel
5:00 comparing Fight Club and Clockwork Orange
11:00 Impact of Fight Club (movie version)
15:30 Neoliberalism in Fight Club
23:00 Why Tyler Durden is “literally me”
24:00 Fun facts about the film
28:00 David Fincher - making of Fight Club
33:00 Does the movie sell the point of the novel?
40:00 Final thoughts on the film / Roger Ebert’s review
46:00 Fincher being a great director for the film
51:00 Outro
#fightclub #moviereview #banned #movie
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0:00 Introduction / Key difference between book and novel
5:00 comparing Fight Club and Clockwork Orange
11:00 Impact of Fight Club (movie version)
15:30 Neoliberalism in Fight Club
23:00 Why Tyler Durden is “literally me”
24:00 Fun facts about the film
28:00 David Fincher - making of Fight Club
33:00 Does the movie sell the point of the novel?
40:00 Final thoughts on the film / Roger Ebert’s review
46:00 Fincher being a great director for the film
51:00 Outro
#fightclub #moviereview #banned #movie
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Good stuff guys, thanks so much, God bless 🙏
three first words define human and humanity. Mother. Dies. Today.
Ke bien, Bukowski es genial muy gracioso:; su poesía es triste y más real todavía. Un beso❤
Someone needs to rewrite the novel from Jean Farlow’s perspective.
Hebophile, not pedophile, at least in the case of Lolita, big difference.
Rating Quilty as a worse pedophile than Humbert is really weird. Quilty is an impotent sexual sadist and voyerist. Humbert raped children. Both are bad, Humbert is 10 000 times worse. But he presents his grievance as Quilty taking his Lolita away from him. Humbert certainly thinks Quilty is worse than him. But objectively looking at it, Humbert is clearly much much worse. Quilty is a pornographer, groomer and abuser, Humbert is a rapist.
The book borders on parody:. “HUMBERT HUMBERT” for example.
You guys are idiots... "Buffalo Bill was in love with bugs too" lol The guy to the left in particular, I´m really surprised that he knows how to read.
Это наверное самое подробное описание книги Лолита...
ребята...отличное обсуждение книги набокова...❤❤❤
I think the one line of the book that convinced me there was atleast an ounce of real love was all the way at the end. “I hope you will love your baby. I hope it will be a boy” And there it is again, that song rhythm that Nabokov does so well…
Great review, thanks guys!👍🏻👍🏻
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One thing that pissed me off about the movie was not the movie itself. That phone call where Sean said "who's this? Patrick?" My mom introduced me to this movie (albeit too early) and she said: "oh he must be the brother of the guy from American psycho." During this time I had no idea who the author was and I dismissed her like "Mom just because they have the same last name doesn't mean they're related... It pisses me off that she was right all along 😂😂😂😂 I found out after she died however.
Humbert was in love with Annabel. He's trying to replace Annabel. He's trying to change Dolores into Amnabel. If she had lived into her 20's and Humbert had spent his time trying to replace her as she was then, we'd sympathize with him. Media is full of characters, of both sexes, who lost their first loves and couldnt move past them and they are always sympathized with, even though its still a toxic situation.
No, it is a book about European vs American culture. Why people keep missing that?
where is the guy on the right from?
He's an author. How many families has Stephen King butchered?
That one chapter where Patrick is having a panic attack and is freaking out In downtown was my favorite because of how it’s structured. It’s 4 pages with no paragraph breaks and barely any sentences, it’s written like you’re in the head of a person suffering a major major panic attack.
Hippy dippy kerouac😂😂😂
I am the same age as Ellis, grew up in SoCal, spent a lot of time in LA. This book is spot on. That’s what it was like in LA in 1980-81.
This review would be better if you did not constantly inject your obvious cultural opinion on this type of attraction. Apart from that Humbert really is a mix of Sociopathic issues ... and some ehhh attraction issues. These are separate things. One is root of his paranoia, frustrations, anti social issues. The other is the root of his love and desire. And then there is the loyalty - which I think is genuine. Excellent commentary on the hazards of love. So many of us marry our mothers/fathers - the early love - or ourselves. An endless theatre for many.
okay i do think that kubrick’s version does fail the story quite a bit, but i think it was part hays code and part kubrick viewing the story as a romance instead of a tragedy
Nabokov wrote a screenplay that Kubrick would not use. The film credits him and Nabokov with the screenplay, though Nabokov said only 10% of his writing made it to the screen.
Hilarious that all of these accusations against Houellebecq just prove his point that liberalism is gay and anti-human
Twenty-something middle class Anglos interpreting Bukowski with pop psychology, and disturbed by the dirtiness and poverty and meanness of Bukowski’s life. He should have been a nicer guy to satisfy such readers?
It’s so sad that you have such a small amount of views Your videos are amazing
Your conversations about books are great, I love your videos. Sad that you stoped doing them 😢 You are criminally underrated.
Wow what a clueless egomaniac the woman is
This girl’s views on guy stuff is no different than idiot guys who who are afraid of girly things
You guys didn’t get it. Marla made the narrator feel emasculated is why he created Tyler.
It's cute how you try to make a link between Houellebecq and the characters when he as said himself "the mistake is to think of me, in actual fact.” Also, 'minute' in terms of sizes it is pronounced "mine'oot."
Lolita, the novel, is an aesthetic experience par excellence, second to none. Beyond morality and even love itself.
Most gorgeously written novel ever. His prose is like poetry.
The chick obviously did not read the book.
I'm a Christian and I LOVE the movie. It's actually in my Top 10 favorite Bible-based movies, I have the book, and I tried to read it, but it spends a lot of time being like "the desert is dry, the air is windy"- not those words but same idea. I might try it again with your guy's insights. :)
I highly recommend you to read the book carefully and try to appreciate its poetic language. There is also a very nice and helpful book that might help you understand it much better, which also includes a little essay written by Scorsese himself. The book is called: 'Scandalizing Jesus?: Kazantzakis's The Last Temptation Of Christ Fifty Years On'.
30:55 What page is this on? This isn't included in the movie?
The scene is included in the 7th chapter of the novel. The movie cannot include every single scene from a novel of 512 pages.
@@Manfred-nj8vz Thank you. I understand that, filming 2 naked kids would be even worse for Martin Scorsese :)
It's pages 93-94, although I don't see anything about clothes removal.
@@ZacharySiple Well, you have to bare in mind that whenever someone talks about a book, a movie, a poem, a story etc. may slightly modify what he thinks that he's read. It happens (unfortunately) all the time. I understand your objection (or ever your disappointment?) but so it is. However, well done that you did search in the book itself, in order to find the scene as the author wrote it. So must be done.
26:00-19 They show that in the movie and I think that's one of most beautiful pieces of dialogue in the movie.
12:06 Well, he has a moment of worry before He is arrested, and He asks God: "If it be possible, let this cup pass from me." Last Temptation is basically a whole story of "let this cup pass from me."
Wow what a trash pod this was. Were the two boring people stoned the entire pod? no insight, just vapid offerings and attempts at pithy commentary. Fail
When are you going to do the most banned book in history: Salman Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses? Too scared of being massacred by the muslims? :-)) Yeah, I am sure you are!
hey! something worth knowing is that the discussions of "annabel lee" refer to the edgar allen poe poem of the same name, likely not to a love that humbert actually lost!
They didn’t catch that? It’s so well-known.
This person compared Flaubert to American Psycho. Seriously seems like they don’t have expansive reading credentials. Anytime a book is summarized as boring this way it seems like the style isn’t being considered enough or just isn’t effective for an individual but gd the way it’s stated seems the former. It’s also not thoughtful criticism to just say it’s boring and the book is also largely about boredom-the word is embedded in the novel many many times ostensibly with great intent.
I can’t help comparing American Psycho with Dostoevsky’s Notes from the Underground. Partially, because Ellis uses an excerpt from the novella to introduce the book, but also because we are stuck within the narrator’s head. I don’t think Ellis is trying to warn us. Bateman is a portrait of a type. There are people out there who are like Bateman, who think like Bateman but don’t kill people (assuming Bateman actually killed people). He’s manic, obsessed with status, materialistic, and completely self-interested. What makes matters worse is that Bateman lives in a culture that encourage selfish behavior. I believe in an innate human nature, but I also believe that the society that you live in can either lessen or enhance your darker impulses. Regarding the violence: Bateman’s violent acts are sadistic and reprehensible, but to be honest they were one of the main things that kept me reading. If Ellis wrote a book called Well Adjusted American Nice Guy, we just wouldn’t be interested. There’s something inside us that just can’t resist or are even attracted to gorey depictions of violence. It’s somehow cathartic…. Anyhow I liked the book. I’m not sure that I’d give it 5 stars, but I definitely wouldn’t give it one star.
What a refreshing take on this, in my view, the greatest novel ever. I would have liked more clarity about Nabokov's view of his work. He claimed repeatedly that yes, what Humbert does to Lo is terrible, but that it is also a love story. Interesting too is that he also calls it a mystery! Quilty's role is only hinted at throughout via sly clues, often in other languages, only revealed by Lo herself toward the end, where SHE sums up her feelings about Humbert: "you broke my life"! I recommend reading Lolita every year, especially an annotated version. Each time I delve into Humbert's "mad new dream world", I experience a different reaction, from disgust to pity. It's a masterpiece.
A gorgeously written novel for sure.
Nice review but what does Paul Owen aka Allen think
Does the guy have to constantly interrupt her!!!? Let her fucking speak
What a way to completely miss the point of the entire book.. 👏
Huh?
Why does the guy on the left KEEP! interrupting the woman?, really annoying.
very good analysis
I know I'm late to the conversation. Which level of school banned it? Because yeah, I could see Maus being a lot for an average eight year old to grasp. The images alone would be a lot for a grade schooler. But was it high school? Any high schooler should be able to grasp the face value message of Maus. Banning it for readers 14+ is just not wanting the message to be heard.
I really enjoyed your podcast, sad to see that you didn't upload for a long while !