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The rolling forward of the kingdom seems to be moving at a snails pace...I mean what is the percentage of Mormons right now...1%?? Most churches act like (and say) Jesus is coming any minute now... Growing up Mormon, they assured us that he would come within our lifetime....??

Where is your religion's map?

@@cameronvantassell9483 Our church is only true church, owned and operated by Jesus Christ. In order to be a member all you must do is believe in him. So to see a “map” of our religion? Check the globe. 🫶

@@cameronvantassell9483imagine needing a theology to think for you

@advocate7643 That's the funniest part about criticism like this. You understand the theology so little that you believe what you are saying is right. It's better than denying any theology but then stealing from it to make your worldview work.

@@cameronvantassell9483oh cameron, hear the words of my mouth

You first! Post your religions' map of the same!

There was a study recently that 61 percent of LDS are active, and being the most active religion, with 30% Protestants and catholics, are active

@@unitedempireofamerica6414 cool. But what's the growth rate? What's the ratio of people being baptized and active to leaving the church or becoming inactive

@christopherhardy8937 In 2012, there were 14 million 73% were activity 2024 17.25 million, 61% activity. It's been consistently. 10.5 million active members for the past 12 years. non activities and people who left the church, it's hard to till because unactive members could still believe in the church and the book of mormon, and the people who left the church could have naver had there records removed

@@unitedempireofamerica6414 so it's been steady is what you are implying

I agree, whether classical or modern, there is something special about music devoted to Christ. You can feel the heart and soul put into it and feel the Spirit testify of its truth! 😁

Yes, there are imperfect people leading The Church. Nevertheless the fruit is sweet and abundant. You are invited to join all of the happy people on The Covenant Path, thr holy highway of Isaiah 35. You are invited to join The Church that Jesus set-up with Apostles and Prophets, Ephesians 2: 20, and bask in the unity of The Fellowship of The Saints in Ephesians 4: 11-14.

Activity rates are pretty low. Somewhere between 40-55 percent depending on the country.

The attrition rate is high. Only 60% of the members hold a 'temple recommend.' Less than half of those eligible never serve a mission. Half of all missionaries leave the church after returning. The Great Salt Lake is drying up exposing all those around it to toxic chemicals. The internet has certainly been a huge factor in exposing this religion.

What is your response to the reality of Paul Gregersen debunking the arrogant Egyptologist opinions against Joseph Smith?

@@RichardHolmes-ll8ii didn't Paul gregersen take the approach that the papyrus was a catalyst and not a direct translation?

@RichardHolmes-ll8ii Jesus Christ never required anyone to believe the Book of Mormon is true to get to the 'top level' of heaven. ❤️ That is good news. Most people in the United States have never heard of the Book of Mormon, much less the billions of people around the world. Only the word of the Lord endures forever.

Then why are there new temples being built then?

@RichardHolmes-ll8ii because Nelson is on an announcing Spree to have the all time record for most temples built to beat out Hinkley. You realize how many temples are understaffed? Most struggle to keep enough members in there the keep them running because Nelson stopped following the criteria for how one gets built and jury started naming them willy nilly. Most won't see the light of day for over a decade, and by then, it will be too late. Not to mention, temples are built often by member owned companies with ties to general authorities, and much of that work is done at sometimes 3-4× the cost of standard prices, funneling that sweet tithing money into their pockets.

lol @@nello1591

Dude you sound like a conspiracy theorist 😄

@Robert-rw5lm perhaps the leaders of the church are literally conspiring to obtain members, tell them how to live, how to give their money, how to give their time to the church, to volunteer, clean buildings, go on missions, share their beliefs, all in an effort to get more tithe paying members. It's not a theory, it's what's happening.

Yep. And then they take that money and use it to make more money for themselves, but if you don't pay, no temple. It's ok though since the temple ceremony is just a bastardized version of the masonic ceremony shoehorned into a pseudo Christian theology based on a myth of Adam and Eve who never existed.

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@@wesleykarnes does that mean that to enter the celestial kingdom you must pay the church 10%? Is our exaltation held do a different standard than those before the church was restored? eg. everyone before 1830?

@@mikkifrompreston4396 If you really do a deep dive into Joseph Smith, you'll see that most of what he wrote as doctrine was pulled directly from his ass! He translated NOTHING! He was giving revelation and the church admits this on their website in the Gospel Topic Essays...So, I wouldn't put too much stock into his breakdown of the hereafter.... THAT, coupled with the fact that the first presidency(and the one before that, and the one before that, etc, etc) have been sitting on all the dirty little secrets of Joseph Smith for decades... .....just sayin'

Malachi 3/10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it Numbers 18/26 Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the Lord, even a tenth part of the tithe. Malachi 3/8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Luke 18/12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess

How are those missions in Russia doing now?

Just imagine for a second that the church is not true and how much money those12-15 temples cost (plus the man hours..)and how many people that would feed...

@wesleykarnes the Temple Provide jobs In construction, maintenance, and landscaping. You can also put this the other way around and say what if the church is true and say what about the billions of people that need the saving ordinances of the temple for the living and dead

@@unitedempireofamerica6414 I guess my question to TBM's is Who called on the Mormons to be the saviors of the world? Don't you guys have a savior already? It just seems a little arrogant to think that God and Jesus needs your help saving all the souls...I was raised in the church and have been recovering for many years...I call it my DE-conversion...

@wesleykarnes if the church is true, then we are the only ones who have priesthood authority to do the work for dead. John 3/5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 1 Peter 5/6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. 1 Corinthians 15/29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

@wesleykarnes But at the end of the day, millions of people believe in the church. We are not gonna give up what we believe in because others disagree. We believe the works in the temple are needed And that the Temple is the house of the Lord will you can Escape Wickedness of day-to-day life and feel the love and peace in the Temple and it represents heaven will we can be in the Presence of God, the father and his son, Jesus Christ.