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Problem for Usain Bolt they say 🤣💀
People don’t understand that even when people break bolt record their still not yhe greatest sprinter of time. Bolt dominated the world championships and Olympics for year and break his 100 m record three times. At his prime he was pushing himself he had no rivals, his dominance made gatlin and gay train harder to steal his throne.
The American sprinting wet dream
not in the 100, the 200 maybe tho
He can't be a problem for Usain...
🤦🏾♂️
Problem for Bolt? Is Bolt coming back? Last that I show Bolt was enjoying life.
Coach, still waiting for you to tell us which race did Lyles go 0.81s/10m from 70 to 80m. What are your sources?
Ps: leave the 4.4m/s tailwind race out of the disssion as it had well, a 4.4m/s tailwind.
Bolt ran a 9.69 without even trying, we haven't seen Noah even run 9.7 yet lmao
I’m sorry but there’s a massive difference between 9.83 (Noahs’s 100m PB) and bolts 9.58. Noah will never break Bolts 100m record.
Justin i need to find out if you my cousin. Where yo people from? Do you have family from Mississippi or Louisiana?
Ya’ll live in Usain’s shadow. Even in retirement, you hate on him because he will forever be legend while ya’ll be doping!
He'll break the 200 meter but i dont think that 9.58 gets beat in our lifetime
He will have to beat tabogo to do it
A Jamaican was in the race.
The response from the likes of Coleman, Bracy & Kerley will be interesting to follow!
Coleman doesn’t have a huge response for this in the 100M given his weakness in the latter of his race. Same with Bracy, actually. Kerley has a very similar talent to Noah and actually gets a good start, but Noah simply has more top speed than him. Noah is definitely appearing to be the guy to beat in Paris if he starts this well and maintains as usual.
@@stevie586 All those guys mentioned need to sharpen up their 200s to help with the latter part of their 100m! Coleman (19.85) & Kerley (19.79) need to become consistent low 19.7 guys & Bracy (20.55) who's run the 200m literally ONCE in the last 10yrs (20.97 in '22) needs to dip under 20s!
@@AllInTheGame01 I agree with you about Coleman and Bracy…definitely not Kerley. Kerley is an original 400M runner…the latter part of his race is his best part, and people like he who step down are always strong on that part. But, like the old Lyles, it could often be too little too late, because you ain’t gonna catch such strong world-class folks from but so far back unless your name is Bolt or Lyles (throw in Shericka or ShaCarri)!!! Kerley needs more 60’s in his life and he’ll be set. Coleman and Bracy desperately need some 200’s in their life, and if we watch 2023 Coleman, he’s on an upward trend and did tons of 200/400M work to get better, which he did. Your thought process is correct!
@@stevie586 Apart from the fact that when Kerley was running 9.7s for fun in '22, he wasn't running any 60s but was running low 19.8s in the 200m. He could only manage sub 19.9s literally once in '23 (19.86) & only one sub 9.9s (9.88).
@@AllInTheGame01 I completely get what you’re saying and you’re right. You’re not saying anything different than I know, but your interpretation of his “problem” is incorrect. His problem is mainly he could use a faster start and better acceleration to reach that top speed. This is what he fixed in 2022 and what he was lacking in 2023. The three guys about whom we are chatting have certain problems. Coleman and Bracy are near identical with their execution and need the same repairs, while Kerley is just different…he and Noah have the same shortcomings…with Noah now fixing his. Don’t focus so much on the times as much as analyzing their entire execution and whether they are strong/weak. Kerley need to do more speed work…he’s got endurance all day.
9.75-9.79
I don’t think Lyles has the competition to push him to Bolt world records. Bolt had Blake, Gailtlin, Gay and Powell running 9.69 and 9.7s pushing him who is dropping times to help push Noah.
If Noah sharpens his start, he's definitely running 9.6 period.
Why period? Define start in terms of time? How fast will he have to "start" in order to go 9.6s? Run some numbers and get back to me...
@@Yes_I_c4n I don't need to run numbers, just compare Lyles and Coleman. See how much advantage Coleman's start gives him over competitors. Now imagine Lyles with that start and his legendary finish. You don't think he's at least matching the American record?
@@davidpean7952 Lyles will never be able to split 6.32s like Coleman did. Almost nobody can/could and we're talking about much more gifted starters than Lyles. Even Coleman was only able to split sub 6.34s once. This is precisely why you need to run numbers: 9.69-3.37= 6.32s. No way Lyles is going to be able to split 6.32s.
@@davidpean7952 By the way, Lyles' finish is def fast, but it' not legendary like you are suggesting (3.37s finish at best). Bolt's are legendary at 3.27s.
Heck, Kerley, Omanyalla Fahnbulleh, Hughes, Spearmon, have split faster than 3.37s at 3.35s/3.36s.
@@Yes_I_c4n ok I see your point
you all crazy..he can't even run 9.60 how the hell he will break bolt records...be realistic man
Gatling and this coach know shit Noah ain’t breaking bolts records
100% right
These are some of the most bias videos I have ever seen. He talks about Lyles dropping a 0.81s split. What is he on? Unless he is considering that +4.4 m/s race, but that is just being dishonest. Might as well talk about Gatlin's world record in the 100 m then, when he ran in front of those giant fans propelling him forward...
After that race (+4.4m/s), Lyles ran 9.87s, 9.83s and 9.85s, all of which were under legal wind. The fastest split time that he got in those races was at Eugene, and it was 0.83s from 60 to 70m... It was 0.83, 0.84, 0.84 and 0.86 = 3.37s.
0.81s later down the race... That a red flag for bad data...
@@Yes_I_c4n lyles will be the most iconic athlete of all times says gatling
@@MaureenAfflick Gatlin is crazy, he's just hating on Bolt really. Lyles doesn't have 1 single Olympic gold, he doesn't have one single OR, one single WR, someone must be crazy to say such thing. And you have to look at the way Bolt did it too. From 2008 to 2013 it was just wild. Bolt was undisputed king breaking WR and OR left and right and running 9.6s easy. C'mon... these guys need to get their facts straight.
Gatlin is one of the absolute best, and most decorated male sprinters in history, has nearly 40 years of experience at the absolute highest level of the sport, and you think he and his coach don’t know what they’re talking about? Really think about what you’re saying, here, LOL. While I don’t think Noah will break Bolt’s records, he has very similar qualities as does Bolt, and anything is possible at this point. Noah has shown very clearly 9.6 is possible.
Poor Gatlin, he’s so good obsessed with Bolt and wanting to diminish Bolts greatness! He is willing to throw his hopes into any names flying around!!
I’m trying to understand why you folks come on here and spread all this unwarranted hatred. The person hating here is you, and you’re treating Gatlin as though he’s hating. Gatlin admires and respects Bolt…they are friends. Gatlin hasn’t said one single bad word about Bolt. You folks have so much hatred in your hearts you cannot stop making things up.
@@stevie586 they're not friends. Gatlin hates Bolt's guts. Why do people keep bringing Bolt up? Look at the title of the video, silly. You're not too bright, are you?
@Yes_I_c4n hey guys… Justin does not make these titles that is on his team which is us. I can confirm there’s tremendous respect between the two. This title doesn’t say that he hates him, it says that Noah Lyles is an issue and because he’s about to do something that’s never done before. Making him a problem for all sprinters legacy. Also we appreciate you commenting and viewing our videos. Let us know if there’s anything you wanna see more of or any suggestions. 🤞🙏
@@RunYourRaceTL pay that guy no mind…he comes in here just to pick fights and he is clueless about the sport, while claiming he knows everything. Don’t even waste your energy explaining anything to him; he just wants to argue.
@@RunYourRaceTL I don't get it. Why is Lyles going to become an issue for Bolt's legacy? Lol. By 25, Bolt had won the 100 and 200m in the Olympic games back to back, was multiple world record holder (had broken serveral records several time). Lyles will turn 27 without any of this.
Yet he's going to become an issue for Bolt? Lol, sorry mate.
Also, you are spreading misinformation. Lyles never split 0.81s, never (leave that 4.4m/s race out). You and Gatlin should know better.
In addition, you guys, supposedly unbiased and knowledgable about the sport, shouldn't talk about a 9.6s for Lyles. It ust shows you don't know your numbers really. Lyles' never split under 6.43s and sub 3.37s. Where's the sub 9.7s coming from? You're just creating hype.
Can Lyles run sub 9.7s? Maybe he can, but the good data that we have TODAY tells us: heck no, no way. Sub 9.8s okay and if evertything goes perfect.
Not for bolt.... No. No one right now has 9.6 in them! NO ONE! Noah has 9.7 in him but not 9.6
I strongly disagree. 9.58 is a serious mark and I’m not gonna comment on that right now, but, Noah at 9.6X is very likely…his top speed is simply extremely high, and with a faster start, 9.6 is VERY likely! Don’t see it? Okay, let’s go back:
FloJo had insane top speed but was a 200/400M starter…she fixed her start and BAM, nearly half a second off her PB
Fred Kerley, a 400M runner improved his start, and went from a 10.49PB all the way down to 9.84, then 9.76
Shericka Jackson, a 400M runner (all these three are the same, BTW), fixed her start and went from 11.13PB to 10.76, improved that start the next year and ran 10.71, and 2023 improved it significantly and ran 10.65
But, you’re saying Noah, who has the same type of endurance and top speed, even faster than Fred, cannot go from 9.8 to 9.6 with a much faster start and acceleration? Really think about this…there is a very clear pattern of seeing certain results from certain improvements…that’s how this sport works.
@@stevie586 think logically please, noah has never split sub-6.4 in the first 60, and only barely split sub-3.4 for the last 40 once
@@Someone-hi1nt you’re not getting it and you’re telling me to think logically. All I’m doing is thinking 100% logically and based upon a tremendous amount of knowledge, experience, and overall wisdom I possess in this sport. Sub 6.4 in the first 60 is not necessary to run 9.6…it is the momentum built early in the race and maintenance of it to run faster times. It is very simple…while I don’t have all of his splits right here in front of me, it is very much common sense Noah’s strength is in the latter portion of his race and his 60-100M is lighting fast, as evinced by him coming on like a freight train at this point. So, with this in mind, what do you think we can expect from his final 40 if his first 60 is much faster? It is logical to think if he’s running a higher speed to 60 right now, his final 40 will be faster than previously. That’s simply how speed works. For instance, the first 30 is slower than 30-60 why(?), because folks are running from a complete stop versus at speed in the first 30M. Any time a person approaches a point at a higher speed, that means their performance beyond that point will be improved.
@@stevie586 LOL. So much nonsense. Sub 6.4s is not necessary for running 9.6s? Ahah, and you talk about having tremendous amount of knowledge. you're hilarious at best.
tell me of one sprinter who's gone sub 9.7s and didn't run a sub 6.4 split in that race? that's right, every single one of them split sub 6.40s.
@@Yes_I_c4n please tell me your knowledge and experiences firsthand in this sport? I will wait for you to tell myself and the world your credentials….WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS?
Noah 26 still hasnt done 9.80 and they reckon hell take Bolt??? FoH
lyles 9.75 at best
I agree. These coaches and former sprinters are usually not very good analysts.
Firstly, get consistent and reliable data from reliable analysts, that's what they should be doing.
Consensus is that Lyles has never split blow 0.8235s (.83s when you round it up). Consensus is that Lyles never split under 3.37s from 60 to 100m, never.
So, using good data, we see that in order for Lyles to drop a 9.75s (and assuming he can get a 3.37s finish in the very same race, something that he couldn't do in his 9.83s PB, for instance) he has to clock a 6.38s in the first 60 m. Now 6.38s all of a sudden seems a bit more challenging, doesn't it?
And we're just talking about 9.75s. And these guys talk about 9.67s?
How? Is Lyles clocking a 6.30s flat for the first 60 m? C'mon...
@@Yes_I_c4n LOL…right, because you know so much more than people who do this for a living, and those who teach it, when you have no expert background on this topic nor much common sense on how this works, either? I’m gonna squash your ignorance in logic right here. Blah blah blah about Lyles not running faster than .83…somewhere else you said .84, how .83, but now .8235 rounds UP to .83 and you claim you understand math? Ummm, those of we who understand math understand .8235 rounds DOWN, not UP, because the third digit is less than 5. But you knew that, since you’re so smart and all, eh? Secondly, you look really, REALLY bad going on and on about his best final 40M. Let me explain to you how this REALLY works…
Simply put, if someone has a particular first 60M, the speed and momentum that person has built up to that point, combined with whatever they do after that will determine their final 40. For instance, if a car is driving 50MPH and crosses the 60M line, holds that same speed, that final 40M will be one rate. NOW, if that SAME car is driving 55MPH, crossed 60M at a certain point, the final 40M is automatically going to be much FASTER, because the vehicle will have crossed that first 60M at a higher rate.
Making this about Noah Lyles, the WHOLE POINT of explaining he could get to 9.6X IS NOT BASED UPON HIS PREVIOUS 60M SPEED, as you keep mentioning! The whole point is his final 40M will NOW be based upon his much faster first 60M speed. Watch you tell me I’m wrong about how math works and you know math better than me. ROFL…you make yourself look so bad trying to correct folks who clearly know much more than you…especially one of the best male athletes IN HISTORY and professional coaches who do this for a living. You are absolutely a joke.
I’m curious to know why you think 9.75 would be his best. Please explain based upon race breakdown so I can understand your perspective. For me, I think he can go sub 9.7 if he has this start because we’ve seen how hard he closes. In all of his 9.8 races of the past, his first 60, 70, and even about 80 were complete garbage, until he really turned on the jets mainly the last 20M, and he still ran 9.8 those time. So, if he’s reaching his speed 20-30M sooner, while maintaining and building off that speed, instead of getting to that speed too late to make a mark, you don’t think he can take an entire .1 or .15 off his time? In his 200M, he’s covering 20M intervals in about 1.7/1.8 each split, and that’s 200M where he’s obviously running slower than he would in the 100M. You don’t think he could cover the final 40M faster? While I do think 9.75 is very realistic if we are just adding the numbers, we have to take into consideration the momentum built and how that shaves time. I definitely say 9.7 for him, but I think he can see 9.6…plus, we who have watched Noah’s coaching knows he continues to improve tremendously all season, even after the USA Trials, so, I think his coach has him on track to do something special. I’m not thinking he’s ready to tackle Bolt, but I think he’s ready to set an American PR…
@@stevie586 That's not a breakdown, that's just a bunch of ifs. Lol at you, silly.
It's actually very simple, I'll write down some numbers easy for you to follow.
6.43+3.37 = 9.80s. These are Lyles's best splits. When we say 9.75s, we are already being somehow generous and assuming that Lyles might improve his start slightly still. Say, Lyles going 6.39s for the first 60 m (big if knowing what we know today) and then 3.37s. This would equate to 9.76s. What momentum building mate... You're just talking randomly!
It's simple: Lyles has covered 60...70m in 0.83s, his fastest ever 10m split. After that, he slows down a tad to 0.84s for 20m (from 70 to 90). As for the final 10m, he covers it in 0.86s. This gives you a total of 3.37s.
There's not such thing as momentum builing here. If Lyles covers 50 to 60 m in 0.83s, he will cover 60...70m slower in 0.84s and THUS he will end up getting slower from 60 to 100m than his PB of 3.37s. That's probably what happened in Budapest, where he covered thr first 60m in 6.43s but then seemed "slower" only splitting 3.40s.
@@Yes_I_c4n you terribly discredit yourself! So, let me explain this to you who doesn’t understand simple math…3.37 you’re alleging will be his final 40 is based upon him not running 6.43…it is based upon him running 6.51…his then absolute best. Getting that 6.5 down to a faster time means his FINAL 40M will be approached at a faster speed than previous, and with his same maintenance alone, would automatically make the remaining 40M FASTER than previous! Your logic and math is horribly flawed in assuming one part will be much faster while the other part will remain exactly the same. You really aren’t smart enough to get the simple point that if he has much more speed and momentum built up, he’s gonna more faster on the next? Like, really, you don’t get that simple concept…it is very simple physics!
I love how you have zero knowledge, are a mere fanboy, and you’re trying to correct and insult folks who’ve made an entire lifelong career out of this sport as if they don’t understand it, and you somehow understand it better. Then, you’re making ill informed points that don’t include all the factors, but claim you’ve got it all figured out. You’re a joke!
By the way, you made a critical mistake by claiming there is no momentum building…anyone who knows the sport and event know 100M is a full execution plan designed to build momentum, thanks for proving me right in that you’re clueless. It is laughable, and now you’re telling me there is no momentum. Ask every professional sprinter about this and feel stupid. Better yet, just ask anyone who understand how speed works…momentum needs to be built!
The only tjing noah will break is a toe. He's not going to get near that record. It will probably be another 5 to 10 years before that happens. Abd probably a up grade in equipment
if not another 50 to 100 years to break 9.58 secs.
he is not the most iconic and not even top 10. in london 2012 Noah would have been dead last with his fastest time he has even ran, stop the cap
Not even the American record he will get
These guys look like amateurs just fanboying. What I would expect from a former professional sprinter and a coach is a detailed analysis using proper/good data. Not wild guessing and using bad data. I mean, any guy who knows the sport knows that 0.81s from Lyles is bad data, more so when you're saying after 70m mark? C'mon... I've seen 0.78s spits being issued by USTF; if we go by whatever we read/see, then might as well listen to little kids or crazy people talking.
American record? What are you guys on? 0.81s split? What are you guys on? Noah Lyles doesn't have Gay's top end, stop it.
0.81s from 70 to 80m? Lol, what are you guys on? You guys are just fanboying...
Noah done broke all Usain n Blakes records except for the 19.19 and 19.26 once he comes down past the 19.26 it's a wrap.. Bolt and Blake are done...PERIOD ..(DROP THE MIC)
he hasnt broken a single bolt record, what are you on a bout. he will never run 9.58 in the 100m and will never run 19.19 in 200m and the USA relay team will never beat the record set by Bolt and team.
@@Ghost-tx4ft so basically your saying that bolt didn't run 19.40 in Daegu 19.6s in Europe along with Blake's 200 m in their time if sprinting . I wish I could enlighten your ignorance.
Heard that before…….🤐
Outdoor hope he doesn't make usa team
Gatlin and this coach useless