Best Battery Screwdriver 2024? $13 vs $188! Let’s Find Out!
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- čas přidán 9. 03. 2024
- Brands: Hercules, DeWalt, Milwaukee, Bauer, Warrior, Metabo HPT, Skil, Black+Decker, WORX, Ryobi, Makita, Warrior, Hi-Spec, Hychika, Neu Master, Vastar, NoCry. Screwdrivers compared for peak torque, breakway torque, performance driving in screws, ergonomics, and build quality.
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Do the pencil sized ones next please
I'll do it if there's enough interest. Thank you!
I have one of the Vessel ball end ones I got in Japan. Even that has a few different models with varying speed and torque depending on use. I imagine it is a tough category to test, because it is less about power or speed l, but usability
Electricians will love you.
Thanks, for the very informative review, as I need a smaller driver. I'm also debating a pencil size.
This. I'd like to know if the t80/100 sized are worth if for small electronics screws.
I work at Harbor Freight. We talk about you all the time. All good stuff...lol.
The Harbor Freight product that most impressed me after watching this channel were the Predator small engines. They were the stars of some oil and gas additive review vids a few years ago. Those engines started, ran and sounded great, and refused to die until they just couldn't take what was being done to them (which would also have trashed any other small engine). Very impressive for the price. The Hercules screwdriver in this vid held its own very well also.
I also work at harbor feright at our store we do the same thing. Project farm is the best tool reviewer on CZcams with non bias reviews
Thanks! Lol
I rarely ever shop at HF, but I genuinely love seeing how many unknowns and underdogs get brought to the table, and just how far above their price tags many of them hit!
Just remember Harbor Freight = Chinesium.
You are the absolute gold standard for product recommendations to potential customers of these tools, and I can’t imagine how much sponsored/promotional money you turn down in order to keep bias out. Absolute legend!
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@@ProjectFarmIf you ever want to do a more “meta” episode, I would love to hear you explain how you follow scientific principles and determine kpi’s to measure and also what led you to be doing what you are doing today.
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Just a tip for people looking into these, This type of screwdriver are more so designed for machinery and electrical applications more so then drilling screws into wood. You don't necessarily want the highest torque for delicate things like screwing bolts back into old electronic plastic housings. I was a printer/copier repair tech and now work on lab equipment, I have used the Worx screwdriver for years without any real issues and have taken apart and put back together dozens of computers, printers, and copiers with that screwdriver. I find that size, a lighter weight, and ergonomics are more important for my use case then strength. I also found the bit switching mechanism on the Worx to be really nifty and it has come in handy many times. Excellent review as always!
Haha... funny seeing another copier tech out in the wild. I do HPs. My DeWalt is a lifesaver in that line of work!
exactly my thoughts. to build on your comment:
Above all else I care that a clutch setting I picked yesterday to tighten plastic fascia onto a machine is going to be the same one I use today. I can't be breaking stuff when switching to a new battery or driving screws in a little faster.
After that, I care about comfort because using a tool for an hour is different from a couple hours every day.
In this line up, the Makita is probably the most comfortable for daily use. I'd have the tool in the pistol grip configuration, but be holding the "barrel". The weight of the battery over my wrist, my thumb on the buttons, and the driver bit facing down. Actual pistol grip is for screwing into a wall.
I'm hoping to eventually see a lineup that shows something battery powered and definitively beating the Milwaukee M4. The clutch is the selling point.
I do benchtop work at home with small repairs and I bought the DCF601B Dewalt high powered 12V "Xtreme" screwdriver. It has a conventional form, because I'm used to using drills and impact drivers. I wasn't sure if I'd like the 601B because it looks like a tiny impact driver, and it's not as sleek. But I've found that it's very gentle, and very nimble, and the light weight makes it way less fatiguing to use on small projects. I have been using it to drive and remove M2.5 fine thread screws (less than 1/16" in diameter) and it works very well and is precise. The 601B has variable speed and is 1,100 rpms, and has enough power to drive wood screws. I mention it here because nobody seems to know about it, and it's awesome.
You want a clutch I'd your doing Ikea assembly!
That's why I really appreciated the "lightest torque" test, if you're putting screws into furniture that's essential. I would be cautious, but my M12 Milwaukee and a set of hex and bits (and the requisite Ikea pozidriv) has saved my arms much agony putting together flat pack furniture over the years. Always ginger on the torque settings though!
one day in the assembly shop, i had an electrician ask me if i had a cordless screwdriver. i replied, "yeah all my screwdrivers are cordless, i even have a cordless hammer" and this might be the funniest thing i ever said at work
I got a whole set of cordless tools…wrenches, sockets, and of course screwdrivers
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lol. Thank you
It was a hit.
The funniest thing I ever said at work was, "sure, I'll come in Saturday."
LOL!
Test idea: laundry detergents.
Thank you for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm You're welcome. :)
Yeah, those sheet ones?
@SheikYerbuty my parents use the sheet ones, less waste is about it
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These are probably the most utilitarian and worthwhile videos that exist on youtube. Thank you for your dedication to science, and to being concise. You've given back to humanity more than you know with your channel :)
Thanks so much!
Agree 100% I have started looking ProjectFarm up when I need to buy something to see if he's done a video. It has helped me a lot. I also really appreciate his input into where one option may be better than another.
Since I discovered this channel I got in love with Milwaukee brand. Even though it never came to my country, it's impressive the consistency they have in every test. I also like Makita a lot, but proved itself to be very inconsistent, with some products being very good, and others below average, as it was shown in this video. Keep up with the quality content!
Thanks, will do!
Yes. The 18v makita stuff is great.
Makita's one of the few brands that tries to provide different performance tiers of the same tool without sacrificing quality. Unfortunately that means higher prices and higher expectations in terms of performance. I have the screwdriver shown here and use it for electronics work, which is a good fit for its capabilities. The super-low clutch settings and lower speed are just right for preventing cam-outs and broken fasteners in places where you REALLY don't want stray bits of metal getting lost. Also the video states that the screwdriver can change to and from a pistol grip but there is no locking mechanism to stop that from happening. Unless they changed the design then it SHOULD lock in place with a spring-loaded retention mechanism that is strong enough to keep the tool in either shape but weak enough to switch from straight to pistol grip and back with a flick of the wrist. He is right about the pinching, though they have the retention calibrated so well that I don't think I've ever pinched me hard enough to hurt.
@@docferringer Nice review, very interesting POV
I've had that exact Milwaukee screwdriver for nearly a decade with the original batteries. What a workhorse!
Nice!
Same for me iv had mine and batteries at work for 8 years now both still going no issues
@@ProjectFarmthis is not the right place, but could you please do the review and test of DWR treatments? Both spray-on and wash-with restoration, and simply dryer reactivation? thx!
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@@Lqnload2A Awesome 👍
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Thank you and hope you enjoy the video!
I have that same exact milwaukee screw driver, came as a free offer in a electric ratchet kit i bought. Its not something i wouldve normally bought but figured it's nice to get it for free. It has become one of my favorite tools in my whole lineup now. Love that thing
Thanks for the feedback.
Measuring the RPM on the 5 minute torture test would have been a nice stat to add in. I love the work you do! Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
I'm a locksmith, and run the Dewalt Gyroscopic with adjustable clutch, and absolutely love it. It is more than powerful enough for 99% of what I do.
Great feedback on the DeWalt!
The gyroscopic thing seems so weird without having touched one.
It has no problem turning on and off if you use it pointed up, down, or upside down?
Does it turn on and off when you move it around?
but the milwaukee is cheaper at 50 dollars and it's also stronger
@@ProjectFarmI use it as well. Got it as a Geek Squad installer and it did most of the work. Batteries charged in the van between jobs too. Still use it 5 years later with the original batteries
@@volvo09 nope. It has a that long skinny trigger button. It takes some getting used to, but works great once you're used to it.
I have the milwaukee, and I use it daily in an auto shop. I got it black Friday for $59 with a battery, charger and soft case. Very impressive driver. It has a quick chuck that works awesome. It's been 3 months now of hard use and I haven't killed a battery in less then 3 days of work. Thanks for the video and keep up the good content. Much respect from northern NY
Thank you very much!
Yessir and good comment
I used to work in an auto shop over 20 years ago when most (maybe all?) cordless tools that you could get were NiCd. The only battery tool that I used was a small craftsman rotary tool that I sometimes used with the tiny wire brush to occasionally brush surface rust off small parts like the mating surfaces between brake pads and the body of a brake caliper. I also just used brush-style wire brushes for that, but sometimes it's useful to have small rotary wire brushes for getting into tight spots.
So I gotta ask -- where do you use the Milwaukee M12 cordless screwdriver in an auto shop. I own that screwdriver. I cannot really think of where I'd reach for it when doing car repairs vs where I'd just use a regular manual screwdriver. It seems either too bulky or too underpowered to use in spots where you'd use a ratchet. Do you use it for reassembly to quickly drive bolts -- such as when reassembling brakes -- before you final-tighten with a ratchet? Maybe to do something like remove the small bolts on an engine valve cover?
I really cannot think of where I'd use that tool on a car instead of reaching for either a ratchet or a combination wrench or a regular screwdriver or an actual impact wrench.
@@clutteredchicagogarage2720 Hey ‘cluttered….’ Good point and comment and May I say, you are mostly correct. Having owned and used the M12 Milwaukee, I have used it for small fasteners, as the clutch is very good, and it has just enough power to do most tasks with smaller stuff. Taking the 10mm fasteners out if the ‘dust cover’ under our Sonata, in order to do an oil change, for example. Obviously and as you noted, a battery ratchet, or impact wrench is going to be more useful. But for the small and intricate stuff, it can work. I think the M12 screwdriver is geared ( no pun ) more towards the woodworking/ light carpentry areas, however. I use it for quickly changing out duplexes and switches, etc. Of course there is no substitute for a really good hand screwdriver. Take it easy, stay safe!
😂 at 5:20 I see what you did with that worx "semi auto" driver. Your humor is so darn seamless I almost missed that one. Youre a true OG
Thanks for sharing.
Great test once again. I purchased the Milwaukee about a year ago and it has been awesome. Easily one of my favorite tools.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
Another great video, please dont ever change your format. I love that your videos are straightforward and to the point with no unnecessary music, animations, or small talk.
Thanks!
Problem is it's a repost, he did the exact same a couple year ago
@@Chadow-rangerNope, same tests, different models/brands. April 25, 2021 is the posted date of the old video. Not a repost at all. He revisits categories with new models/brands all the time.
Your garage sales are probably the best... massive in size, tons of tools for sale, and plenty of options. I don't imagine you keep everything that survives your testing. You would need multiple shops after all the years I've been watching you do these comparisons.
I gotta tell you, even after the 5 years I have been watching you, I never get tired of your content. Keep up the great work.
He’s mentioned before that he donates the (working) extras!
@@cleteblackwell1706awesome
To where ?
Don’t know
To high school shop classes I think
I really appreciate your reviews! Thank you very much.
I've bought several of the products that you've recommended. You've made a positive impact on my life for sure!
Looking forward to more.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Needed one of these. I've invested in Ridgid from Home Depot (lifetime warranty on most), but they didn't have what I needed. Bought the Milwaukee that you tested. Thanks for confirming I made the right decision. Nice to be reassured after the decision is made. Occasionally I haven't been so successful. Keep your tests coming.
Thanks, will do!
Thanks to a mistake in pricing the Milwaukee at Home Depot, I got it for $21. Came with 1 battery, charger and a soft case. Great little tool to have around the home.
With battery and charger for $21 ?! Holy shee-it! That's literally a steal!
These are going for $99. Good for you!
Reading the reviews on Amazon and while the tool is great for what it is, some users think it should be able to drive lag screws all day long. The right tool for the job at hand people. Installing door locks and electrical receptacle use it is great. Not so much building a deck.
@@rayalevesque , I have the M18 impact driver, and that unit is indeed useful for decking!
@@rayalevesqueRight? Use an impact driver for that kind of stuff. This screwdriver is for the opposite when you don't want to strip out threads.
I have owned the Milwaukee for over 2 years now I use it at least 2 times a week from everything from door installations to working on my RC's. I would 100% recommend it.
I have used the dewalt one a fair bit and love it. The relatively low torque shown in this test has never been a problem for me. It's hard to call the milwaukee a screwdriver when it's 2 pounds and you can't make the grip inline, so I would classify it as a small drill not a screwdriver. Disqualified IMO.
Thanks for the feedback.
Another vote for the Milwaukee. I have about 20 cordless tools and it’s among the top 3 for sure
Yessir !!!!!! 👍
@@jaycarva Indeed
I am so glad that you have found and included a Skil product, they seem to have a great tools for reasonable prices. amazing test as always!
Thanks!
Thanks for including the noise measurements! I know it might not matter to some, but for certain situations it’s quite important.
You are welcome!
I also bought my NoCry because of your previous tests. It has been a workhorse. I particularly like the adjustable clutch and surprising torque.
I was disappointed with my first NoCry, as the chuck had a slight wobble. Amazing customer service sent a new replacement, and stated to keep the original, which I gifted to a painter friend who loves it!
Thanks for sharing.
Same here, decent kit
Same here. Had mine for a while now and have used it to drive quite a few screws. Built some cabinets and used it for the pocket screws and again, perfect. Love that thing.
I've had the dewalt for 8 years still works well and does what I need it to do...Very Satisfied.
Thanks for the feedback.
Super intuitive to use too. Works wonders for doing electrical 😊
@@zachthompson5113I use it for trim out
I own and use the model shown in the video as well as it’s predecessor that doesn’t pivot and has no clutch. Very useful and intuitive.
I have used one for replacing kitchen cabinet hinges and handles.
Worked really good and is light enough that it wasn’t bad reaching above your head throughout the process.
Extremely thorough testing as always! Thank you
Thanks and you are welcome!
This is my go-to channel whenever I'm in the market for a new tool, I've just ordered the Milwaukee driver. Replacing my Bosch which is at the end of its life. " Can I suggest testing screwdriver bits" I haven't seen you do any tests on just the normal bits ... Thanks...
Thanks for the suggestion.
The Ryobi screwdriver on its own (no bit set) is $40 on the Home Depot website, and they even have a sale bundle that comes with an extra battery for the same price. The most expensive one I see is $89 and comes with an extra battery and 2 different chucks, one offset and the other a 90 degree.
Not sure where you're buying your tools, but they might be ripping you off if you got it for $100 with a bit set advertised as a $25 value
I wondered the same thing. Just saw the tool with battery and charger at HD for $29.97 so I picked one up and have been happy so far. I've had great luck with Ryobi tools over the last decade+, but when I saw the $100 price tag on this review, especially against the $49 tool-only Milwaukee and $95 DeWalt, I knew where this one was headed. The Ryobi is a fine screwdriver for common home and DIY use, but $100 is WAY too much for its capabilities.
Agreed, I have the ryobi one, only payed $40, makes it way more comparable. Also best thing about it is that it’s part of ryobi’s new USB line, they are coming out with so many more tools that use the same battery.
Came here to make this same comment... its a $30 screwdriver not 100 even with a bit set. Not sure where you got it for that much but it is certainly not worth 100.
Yeah, Ryobi makes a ton of screwdrivers cheaper than $100 that would bury this competition.
Who cares about cryobi?
I find the clutch on the Dewalt nice when working with a lot of plastic screw holes since those are easy to over torque. I also do a lot of rc helicopters and drones and the Dewalt is very nice when working with those smaller screws.
Great feedback! Thank you!
Word. Mine has been a lifesaver for my rc hobby. The clutch is a must-have for metal screws into plastic
Another good video. I have that Milwaukee driver. It came as a set with a 3/8 ratchet. I really only wanted the ratchet but I used the driver once and now it's one of my go-to tools. I can do a lot with it that I used to to with a 1/4" impact driver and it's way smaller and easier to handle.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
Thank you for all your reviews Todd! You’ve helped me make purchases for the past 4 or 5 years and I haven’t been disappointed yet! What about doing a window tint test?
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
I’ve been using the DeWalt gyroscopic one for almost 10 years and it’s been a workhorse. Love the clutch feature.
What does it mean when it is the only one called out for being gyroscopic?
@@johnderoy916 it doesn’t have a physical trigger switch to go forward or reverse, you have to twist it in the direction you want to go. For speed modulation you vary how soft or hard you twist.
@@cocm81Yeah it's basically like a variable speed trigger. For new users it takes a minute to get used to but then it's just so intuitive and natural.
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Thank you very much!
I see you are now chaptering your previous videos, thank you, it will help the older viewers. 👍
My dad recommended your channel years ago. I watch every video now. You're doing excellent work!
All week i look forward to your videos every sunday 🤙
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I watch many of your videos with my husband. We both appreciate your thoroughness and consistency. We think you do a great job of trying to manipulate one variable at a time as well as adding the best value element.
I am a quilter. With this hobby, there are quite a few tools and consumable items I have to purchase. If you ever get a chance, I would be excited to see you compare quality vs. cost on rotary cutters, rotary cutter blades, fabric scissors, etc. I know many people who would be genuinely interested in your findings.
Thanks for all you do to provide honest, factual reviews. Keep going! Thanks, Tondi ter Haar
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.
I also would like to see rotary cutters. My experience is that the industrial pneumatic ones such as the Eastman Buzzaird I bought last year are FAR superior to the cordless. The price reflects this. I don’t have much experience with corded ones, though.
Great review. I have that Milwaukee and was surprised at how often I reach for it over my impact driver
Thanks!
The Dewalt Gyroscopic screwdriver is one of my favorite power tools. The control it provides is unmatched as you can adjust the speed based on your wrist rotation and switch to forward and reverse veary easily. It does take some time to get used to.
I use it constantly at work and it works better than a lot of alternatives I have tried. I have bought a few as spares or if we need more than 1 at a time because I've always had good luck with them.
Great feedback on the DeWalt, thank you!
Almost all of these are lying about their specifications. Just flat out making stuff up, like claiming to be "4 volt"
There is no common 4 volt battery chemistry. There is no combination of common battery chemistries that will make up 4 volts in any combination except for lead acid which these absolutely are not using.
Almost all of them are 3.6v.
I have a 20 plus year old screwdriver which can use either alkaline or Nicad or NIMH. Still works after 20 plus years.
@@tarstarkusz At this pont, in the US at least, it is commonly understood that 4V is 3.6V nominal and that the 4V is marketing rounding up. (at least by people who even care to know or understand what that means) Even 3.6V nominal is based upon convention, as voltage reduces from about 4.2V at full charge down to a cutoff of 3.0V, averaging to 3.6V. You could argue this creates market confusion or misleading advantages, but is anyone who would care actually confused?
Another vote for DeWalt. Hercules in this review isn't really comparable. If I wanted something that big & powerful, I'd just use my DeWalt 20V Max Hammer Drill. Even more power? There's always the 1/2" Impact. DeWalt screwdriver is fantastic as a screwdriver for various tasks, with good balance of power and speed, plus exceptional control. I do wish DeWalt would expand upon their 8V Max line just a tad.
Note DeWalt voltage is based on their charge cutoff (Maximum) voltage. For example, 8V Max is 2 cells in series. Normally, lithium ion battery's "safe" maximum charge voltage is 4.2V or so, but DeWalt (and many other reputable tool brands) will stop at 4.0V or so, to maximize battery longevity. 20V Max batteries are 5 cells in series, again with 4V per cell max charge voltage.
Laptop and phone batteries can also live a lot longer if you don't charge them to max voltage (4.2V - 4.35V). Many modern laptops give you the option to limit charge %, such as HP giving you the option to limit charge to 80% (~4.0V). Some outliers like Framework gives you full numerical control. I have my Framework 13 7040 set to 65%, for example.
I use a timer switch with my phone charger, so it doesn't get to 100%, unless I really needed it for a trip or something.
@@ccbowers But notice how some of them called them 3.6v, which is the right thing to do. The others are lying to make their product look better than it is. Stop making excuses for LIARS.
We use two of those Metabo ones here in our repair shop today. I own and use that Metabo one, used to be under the Hitachi name a handful of years ago, for about 15 years or so. Very reliable and once you get used to where the forward and reverse button is, it becomes second nature when using it.
Yeah, we use a very similar design in a production place I work (multiple brands but same arrangement otherwise), the switch position is perfect for being held vertically and working on a bench with the work below your hand (lets you keep your elbow on the bench and all that). It can actually be more convenient than the 3-$400 corded production torque drivers we use when it comes to non-critical fasteners. Those expensive ones have a trigger high up and a reverse switch on the opposite side, they're better for installing a ton of screws from a feeder with precise torque though.
The other nice thing about that metabo like shape and rocker switch location is that you can hang them from a tool hanger and rail, so they feel weightless and can hang overhead/out of the way when not being used (extremely useful for fixturing screws). It also makes it easy to use as a non powered screwdriver for better break away torque or fine control.
Ive been looking to get a Battery Screwdriver so I came here...I ended up getting the 4volt skil...I love it...Thanks for the info...
You are welcome!
I have a Black and Decker screwdriver that I've had for years and love it! I enjoy seeing lots of good stuff on this channel.
Thanks! Glad to hear!
Another long term justification. Ive had my Milwaukee for close to ten years now. I know its not as good as new but I have abused that thing and it still does the job. Thanks!
I just don't see why anyone would get this over an m12 drill with a chuck tho. Assuming you re already in the M12 system, do you really not have a regulare drill? If you are not already in the system, the other options are cheaper. If you are in the system, why not just use the chuck on your m12 drill that is almost the same size+shape. One of the pros of the 4v systems is they can go from gun-style to straight-style. The 4v options listed are cheaper hen it comes to including batteries and they fit into more places than a drill. To me that is the point of these tools - to fit where drills don't so you can still drive screws with a power tool despite tight-quarters and delicate fasteners.
😅@@MarkTrades__ This was meant as a driver first. It can drill and does. Bits that fit the receiver are easily obtained. I only have a drill chuck for my 1/2" drill. When do you ever drive a drywall screw straight?? I could possibly use one of the cheaper drivers for my RC projects but I'd rather hand tighten them regardless.
@@chrisslky7018 I use the metabo to run everything down to almost snug and hand-tighten. It's nice because it's harder to blow out a cheap Chinese rin-nut hole or whatever lol. To me, I want an electric screwdriver to have basically NO torque, to help save me from cross threading and damaging cheap fasteners. But a clutch obviously helps with that too.
Great video, I always enjoy your tests!!
Thanks! Glad to hear!
Wow, you really do your reviews in a professional manner. Thanks for doing this for us.
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Congrats on 400 videos, I love your work.
Thanks!
Sending manufacturers’ tools back to R&D since the ‘ol days when Todd was blowing up engines to test oil additives. Love it. I say we’re due for an updated additive test to see if BestLine Lubricants is still the best! Best channel on the Tube.
Quality content as usual, extremely useful and informative for both DIY and professionals.
Thank you very much!
As always, your videos are superior to anything I have seen... I only wish you could have included prices with battery and charger/wall plug. I wanted to jump on the Milwaukee based on performance and price, but noticed it was a bare tool price. Thanks for all you do!!!
You are welcome! Thanks for the constructive feedback.
My favorite compact line is the Bosch 12V. The dril/screw driver is great. I have found it so useful in tight spaces. I am to the point where I am strongly considering their 5-in-1 as it comes with a shallow, 90 degree and a offset bit holder all in 1 drill. It also has a regular chuck attachment. I have the Ryobi one here and I more often than not get stuck with the blinking red light and it takes forever to reset. The old screw driver that did not have the removable batter worked so much better so I always just keep both with me as the 5v is only good for extremely light duty work.
I have the 12v chameleon. You will love it.
I have the drill/impact set and I love it, I have yet to reach for anything stronger because it’s that good
You should compare the modular toolboxes, like the Milwaukee pack out, DeWalt tough system and others. Also love the video as always.
that would probably be his most expensive video. i cant imagine 1 person testing more than 3 of those systems.
I have the husky, love it, but wouldn't mind trying the new Flex.
You know I’ve been watching your channel for years just gotta say thank you for doing what you do now we all know what to buy when we go looking for tools
Thanks! Glad to hear!
I've had the Metabo/Hitachi one for probably 10 years now, still works fine. At the time it seemed expensive but I wanted something small/compact. I love your vids, keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
The Ryobi one has been in my tool bag since Christmas. It's great for when you're popping out a few screws and putting em back. Plus, the USB charging on it is pretty sweet as an option.
The only 'critique' is that the bigger screwdrivers in this list are more akin to drills or impacts. If you're in the battery ecosystem or need a heavy duty screwdrivers, they're great but perhaps worthy of their own list.
Also, it's NEVER been $100, MSRP is $40 so that's some BS right there. He showed it with a bit set that it doesn't come with
Except for the Dewalt, Mikita and Milwaukee these are all household items, they would never survive on a job site
@@jaccamara3862he did Ryobi dirty on price
Agree, the 12V ones are in a different league. Not just power but form factor, size and replaceable batteries.
@jaccamara3862 Was at Home Depot Sunday morning looking at that exact Ryobi. It's $44 with tax for the set with two batteries, and like $30 for the single battery. $100 is crazy. He must have bought it from a reseller. But why? Even if there are no Home Depot stores in Todd's area, they still ship. This actually makes me wonder now about the prices he mentions for everything, because he doesn't say if he is getting things at the best price or the price actual people pay every day. It's just A price. And this one is definitely not a normal, everyday price anybody would see on a Home Depot shelf.
I bought the NoCry based on a previous video you did and it has performed flawlessly for me!
Test idea: cordless Dremel-type rotary tools. Surprised you haven't done these yet.
Yes please! It would be extra great if Todd would test both brushless and brushed versions from Milwaukee!
I do hate you missed the snap on because I’ve been looking into that one as well as these. But it’s okay I appreciate all you do man!!
Thanks!
I received the same DeWalt as a give a couple of years ago. It's been a fantastic unit that I initially didn't think I'd use very often. I consider it to have a variable speed trigger as once you squeeze the trigger, you twist
otate the driver (left or right) and depending on how much you twist, the rotational speed reacts proportionally. Great build quality and a reliable product.
Thanks for sharing.
Yes! This topic was on my wish list. Have you considered making again videos on home appliances, like (corded) vacuum cleaners or mini-ovens?
Great question. I will indeed be reviewing some home appliances soon. Thanks again!
@@ProjectFarm, Cordless vacuum reviews would be better. I'd really like to see some bag-type vacuums reviewed, but the majority of affordable vacs on the market are bagless ---- which wear out quicker because poorer filtering results in more grit passing through the air-cooled motors. I got 3 dogs and I would never go back to a bag-less vacuum.
Great review. I have the Milwaukee M12 and could not be happier. Home Depot sells it as a kit several times a year for about $60. The kit includes the screwdriver, soft case, charger and two batteries. At that price it has no rival.
Thanks!
Hi,
How are you doing today? I am doing pretty good myself.
I just would like to say thank you for getting to another one of my video ideas.
I love all the great work and the great information that you have provided us.
I would like to see you try testing: break bleeders and find out which manufacturers are the best.
I hope that you and your family take care until next time.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm Your welcome!
I've repaired and cleaned up sooo many lawn tools with my little hilti sfd screwdriver :')
I love it because it can be annoying having to worry about stripping threads out of plastic appliances all the time. Low torque selectors are a godsend for screwdriving
Thanks for the feedback.
Thank you for including the Hercules in the lineup. Always very interesting to see how the Harbor Freight brands stack up versus the field and each other.
I haven't had a single problem out of any of the Hercules tools I have gotten so far
I bought the Metabo HPT based on the same tests you did back in April of 21' and have been pretty happy with it. Thanks for the updated testing.
On the verge of getting one. It is currently $50 from amazon. Only thing holding me back is I own a couple of smaller ones like the vessel and denali which I bought after watching another one of ProjFarm video. Beyond that I think my Bosch 12v chameleon driver can handle anything short of an impact driver. UGH.
@@kutapio I hear ya. Only reason I bought one is because my 15 year old Black and Decker finally wore out. It didn't owe me anything after that and if the Metabo lasts that long, it won't either.
I have a 19 year old Hitachi (now Metabo) and I like the small size and I am still using the same 2 batteries! I use it for light electrical work - great for long screws. Anything tougher I use a larger drill/impact.
Great review. Thanks for including all of the Home Depot offerings. 😊
Thanks and you are welcome!
Hey Todd, I was washing the car today and had used my old leather shammy that's a little beat up. Looking into a new one but my go to channel doesn't have a video about them yet! Would be cool to see that before summer arrives, cheers!
Thanks for the suggestion.
At work we used to use the Milwakee 4V units you had last time... but now we're changing over to the Metabo HPT unit shown in this showdown. We use them for thread checking weld nuts on automotive body parts we produce (SHCS in a special holder). Similar (enough) form factor, performance, and controls but at a much lower price.
Nice review! BTW for anyone interested Makita has two more options in this range, brushed small 12v screwdriver/drill FD09Z or DF333D in 65$-55€ range, and they also have a screwdriver with impact function in this pen format.
Great information! Thank you
Yes, the impact is awesome, the only screwdriver you need, Makita TD022
One of the bosses has that version & I definitely like it. I'm always blown away how fast it is when I use it for the first time in a while.
Great reviews! I appreciate your effort and honesty!
Thanks!
Helpful as always, thanks!
Thanks! Glad to hear!
Honestly, I feel like this comparison isn't very fair.
The Hercules and Milwaukee are much larger tools than something like the Ryobi or Dewalt.
Ryobi is available from Home Depot for ~$40 USD for their normal price of the screwdriver + battery (right now they are also offering an additional free battery with purchase). There is also a smaller Ryobi which is even more of a "screwdriver" which would have been nice to see.
I would also love to see the Ikea screwdriver included next time just for the fun.
As always, amazing video, but I feel like the size needed to be considered when putting the lineup together.
I own the earlier Ryobi models with similar form factor, one of which is pistol grip only (with swappable battery) and the other is convertible to straightline, with fixed internal battery. The torque from these, especially the pistol-only model, is surprisingly good, and they came with chargers, instead of having to use your phone charger. It appears that the design and build quality of these new ones have been cheapened by the bean counters. It also appears from Todd's photo that the reason the new model costs 100 bucks is because it included a set of bits, probably about $30 to $40 worth...
@@goodun2974 yep the showing here of how the ryobi would appear to be not very good, But I also carry one of the older models that is strait only, it must be about 8 or 10 years old now, I keep it in my electricians tool belt because i am a certified electrician and run a small construction company building homes garages, barns and other out buildings, that driver gets used pretty much exclusively when doing much of new electrical installs such as with a wire nut driver, conduit reamer, installing outlets and light fixtures in thier boxes and so on, I've never had it quit half way thru the day and need to be charged as long as it was fully charged ahead of time and it just does a fine job all around.
@@looseballs1966 , I also have M12 and M18 Milwaukee cordless driver drills and 18v impact driver, but I bought the Ryobi units for tight-spot jobs around the house where I didn't need as much power and wanted something lighter. I bought two of the pistol grip units with swappable batteries and two of the convertible units, and a pair of them live in my car with a set of hand tools, where they can apparently sit unused for months and still work fine when I need them (I am a retired electronics technician and general handyman, and sometimes a family member will want me to repair something or hang something on the wall or whatever so it's nice to have some tools with me). I wish the chuck/collet was the locking type, and a tighter bearing with less wobble would be nice, but for occasional use they're great. BTW, When I was working, I had a Skil pistol grip screwdriver of similar size that I used every single day on my repair bench for at least 15 years, taking audio equipment apart and putting it back together, and it never quit.
Is it about fairness or showing options? You can decide yourself it the extra performance is worth the tradeoff.
As a plumber i like to put the copper cleaner bits on them and keep them in my solder box. Very efficient
The crew thought I was crazy when I cut a pipe cleaner and stuck it in the chuck of our Makita cordless drill. That was a few years ago. Those first Makitas were tough!
yeah, when doing lots of fittings in one area i have a couple drills set up with brush for inside fittings and another for outside.
Why are you still bothering with copper?
I’m looking to become a plumber is Texas any recommendations?
@@luisnavarro293 find a commerical apprenticeship. That's how you will learn plumbing the right way. Do not start off in residential construction or service. Find a company that's looking for apprentices that do commerical construction. You will quickly get your license and experience. Everything in commercial must be correct and inspected pushing you to do your best work and to also learn proper code. I started off in residential service and it was very difficult for me to learn plumbing. I learned from many hacks who some knew what they were doing and some weren't. After 4 years of service I went to commercial construction. Once you do that then you go to residential and make the big bucks in service and selling
Great video. I've been looking at the ryobi and am glad that I saw this video first.
Thanks!
Love your videos even though i can't buy 80% of the reviewed products here in the EU (Germany)
Always happy to see if u test something I could actually reasonably buy here (dewalt and metabo are good to get here; milwaukee is starting to make an entrance but only with very specific things)
Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Would love to see a testing of regular and security screw bits, torque 'em till they shatter!
Not only manufacturer but also type of bit might reveal some interesting information
Thank you for the video idea!
Have been using that Makita since 2015. Mostly used at work for automotive extras installation. Got also hex drill bit set up to 6mm. Has done all the work I needed and still going strong with original batteries. The position non-lock has actually been the good side for me since I can flip it in a sec. If I were to to buy such sized screwdriver today I would probably go with Bosch or Milwaukee due to variety of tools for 12v platform.
Thanks for sharing.
I really enjoy your professionalism with just a delightful touch of comedy. Your gangster grip on that drill made me chuckle
Thanks!
Thanks for the video. I love the M12 system and have a lot of the tools. The Surge hydraulic impact is my daily impact due to the size. However, I’ve had the DeWalt since 2018 simply because of the form factor. It fits great in my tool bag as well as in my cargo pocket. It’s used mainly for hand tool activities, wall plates, and domes on cameras.
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
I own dozens of m18 for work but bought the m12 screwdriver to assemble stuff around the house. Very impressed with the power and the clutch is incredible .
Thanks for sharing.
Another great review. Thanks for the great work you do. Before I consider a new tool, I always check Project Farm first. You've helped me get good value many times.
Thanks and you are welcome!
"Working by the hour" Haha. You forgot to add that the Black & Decker didn't catch on fire. Video came just in time my friend, I was actually getting ready to shop around for one of these. Excellent work!
Thank you!
so which one are you getting?
@@sinephase Think I am going for the Milwaukie. Seems like it will be the best fit for my use.
This is one of the channels I click the thumbs up while the first ad runs cause it’s always Quality!
Thanks so much!
I have the no cry you recommend last time and love it.
Thanks for the feedback.
So thorough and quick.super appreciated bro
Thank you very much!
I'd love to see 12v Bosch added to the ranks, I use them at work and they are a unit! The drill version is great for when you have to chamfer lots of holes, the weight of an 18v can become very tiresome, and the driver is great for undoing/redoing clamps. I work as a CNC machinist and we are constantly putting in and taking out small screws for holding parts.
Great video!
I use them in our jet engine shop. I like them enough to buy one for home
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Yeah the top 5 screwdrivers weren't even in the video. Just a bunch of toys it looks like.
They really are good. I have the 12v 35 hx variant. It is by far the shortest one i know and has the power of a usual 18v driver. Or you can chose the FC variant with that interchangeable front adapters. I was thinking about a 4V or the makita 7.2v but I chose the 12v Bosch because its way better. It is perfect for working under the car. There are a million little screws for the engine bay covers etc. Its fast, has a very good torque limiter and is very compact.
The IXO VI would've been perfect for this, variable speed with a clutch attachment, as well as the modular chameleon attachments. Hope the next round has it in a few years - or maybe compare it to its 12 and 18v siblings, the M12 installation driver, etc
Great video! What I missed as a feature in your summary list @ 20:40 is if the driver has a motor brake or not. I find a motor brake very convenient especially when you quickly need to switch direction. Also it makes a driver feel much more 'professional'. It is deal braker for me (but that is of course personal).
Thanks! Thanks for the constructive feedback.
The Metabo used to be a Hitachi model, I had one that I used daily in PC repair for years. I discovered that Metabo was making it again last year and bought it immediately and its every bit as good as my old one. Great Video
Thanks!
I have the M12 Milwaukee and it has been a beast for the last 5 year!
Wouldn’t a 12v drill driver accomplish all of this and more by just using the clutch and variable trigger/speeds?
Their 12v driver actually sucks cause it's too slow, but their 12v impact driver is smaller and nearly keeps up with their 18v, I drive 3.5"x¼" lag screws into wood all day
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473the M12 Fuel Impact driver is amazing.
It’s my daily and I’ve used it to drive 3 in 3/8s Tap-Cons. That being said, it went back for warranty last week 😂
@@michaelandin1167 , I bought the M12 Impact driver last year, and found myself wishing I'd bought it years earlier! It was awesome for replanking my deck!
@@kutapio all Milwaukee tools come with a factory 5 year warranty from date of manufacture or date of purchase. So regardless of where it comes from. Or how you got it. It had a warranty if it’s less than 5 years old
Just got the Milwaukee off Amazon on sale for $43.95!
It’s a great tool. Just don’t expect to much power from it.
Once again another in depth and informative testing! Thanks so much for doing it right!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Another great vid
If you do a round two of this test, I’d love to see you compare the hart brand pistol grip driver vs the skil
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
im glad you were able to do some of these smaller drills
Glad you testing the clutch in each of them!!! Great job!!!!!
Thank you!
I see what you did there with the Worx intro. Very impressive! 😄
Thanks!
As expected, great tests! Thanks for sharing the great information. 😷⚒
Thanks and you are welcome!
I have been using a Matabo for 8 years. Mine is branded Hitachi, but it's the same screw driver. I use it daily for work, and it has it's been a great tool. The original batteries lasted six years, and that is with it in the trunk of my car in hot and cold weather.
Thank you for sharing!
I personally own the DeWalt (along with a few others). Love the thing for my small appliance repair business and for general work around the house. Also have larger 12V Bosch and they're excellent but too bulky. Have a Makita but hate the sudden on/off. So the DeWalt is the one you'd have to pry from my cold dead hands
I always get happy whenever CZcams notifies me of a new ProjectFarm video.
Thanks! Glad to hear!
Great video as always! But I´m missing the high end products in the lineup like Hilti or Festool.
Awesome, here early. We need more makita stuff on these reviews. I've got about $8k of their LXT stuff and don't see them that often on tests(not just with you)
Great suggestion! I'll be including Makita in quite a few upcoming reviews
@@ProjectFarm it would be nice if you could also include the new 40V xgt range :) really awesome tools!
makita USA has been slacking tho..
@@MarkTrades__ yeah, but tools are still great and you can import them if you want a better price
@@MarkTrades__ it's unfortunate but its true. They've had some incredible tools but in certain segments they've been very underwhelming. Their outdoor tools are still pretty much unmatched, their cordless drills are still amazing, their impact wrenches while still incredibly good are starting to get performance creep from other brands, and not even a consideration for most people but their commercial tools for industry(like custom made tools for assembly lines, etc) are top tier.
Either way more coverage will lead to better tools. If they get bad press they'll have to improve, and if they get food press they'll continue doing whatever it is that led to the good PR.