Canada's Rapid Transit Systems: Ranked
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- We ranked the 7 different rapid transit systems Canada! Let us know down in the comments whether you agree with our choices or not.
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When I was 11 I went on a trip to Montreal, With my biased opinion is I would put Montreal 1st- The Metro is beautiful sure it might not be that extensive but it has lots of bus connections and the REM being planned will certainly transform that. I also last year rode the Azur and MR-73 hands down the Azur is the nicest train I've ever riden.
Jayden Meertins I’m probably biased coming from Europe but I will say that Montreal’s metro system is not that great.
Beside not being extensive (but so much potential which is hopeful and I’m eager to see how it will evolve), the system is getting old. Although the older trains are getting rarer on the green line, I still ride them a lot. Their design is not efficient at all, they’re loud and you cannot hear whatever they say when there is an issue. (And there is a lot of interruptions, periodically) The new ones are much fancier but still, whenever it’s crowded, the seat’s design isn’t the best and you cannot see where you are on a map. If you’re on a the wrong side, or wrong part of the train, you cannot figure it out. (While in many metro systems, the line is printed above the doors on both sides so every one can see it.
The escalators in some stations are never working.
And to walk in and out (through the turnstiles) of the system, flows of people get intertwined and trust me, it’s a mess during rush hour when a train just released dozens of people and you’re trying to go through the turnstiles.
When it is shut down, if you’re not in downtown, you have to take a bus and figure it all out. There’re no other lines within walkable distances from one another or no tramways or trolleys.
I’m sure I could say more about it but there’re also good points (it’s clean, it’s rather fast to travel from point to point, the frequency is great, etc)
So what they could work on is the audio, the train designs and more lines.
@@TP23000 Their are considerable flaws in the system but compared to the other contenders that's why I picked it as 1st, I am from Toronto and our system is longer but it's just a mess with random shutdown and the streetcars being terribly slow (excluding 509, 512 ,510. All the plans that have been cancelled over the past 15 years we could have a had the best transit in Canadam
Jayden Meertins fair enough. Plus I can’t speak for Toronto as I’ve never experienced it.
I think the list is about transit in general, not just metro systems. If we are just talking about metro the TTC actually has very bad coverage in GTA as it misses many major population centers and almost for sure will put it behind at least Vancouver.
@@jaydenmeertins3415 Do you have a nice trains on there someplace… But as an overall system I have to admit Toronto has it beat. This is coming from a lifelong Vancouver right who desperately wants to see Vancouver rank higher.
In the end the three major systems all have something really great going for them… Vancouver has automation, fastest average speed, and 90 second headways. Montreal has a beautiful underground quiet rubber tired system and a beautiful looking map. Toronto has three separate integrated systems which, although they cover a smaller area than Vancouver‘s, are well integrated.
Know if you included places like Mississauga… Or the airport… And meet those requirements for a good system… Toronto would not rank very well. But those are things which will get better over time.
I wish we had anything resembling go transit in Vancouver.
One of my favourite features of the TTC is the ability to transfer from the subway to a bus or streetcar within the fare paid zone! Eg. Spadina Station
not just spadina, any major station or station build during/after line 1 expansion with the exepections of Dupont, Glencarin, or Yorkdale
@@euanwarkentin7204 Yes, Spadina was just one of many examples I could have used
in germany you can pay for any sort of ticket and you can do anything with it.... bus, u-bahn, s-bahn whatever
@@marcrchz what’s a bahn
@@DarrylErickson train
A missing piece of this ranking is how suitable cities are for rapid transit. Vancouver is far and away the densest city with towers sprouting around most stops of the Skytrain. The ETS system when I lived there 20 yrs ago had connected downtown to basically empty fields and parking lots (my, how things have changed). Toronto does have the most extensive system, but also has so much suburban sprawl that more Torontonians are unable to access rapid transit than Vancouver has people in total.
Awesome content Reece! I Really nice perspective on transit! I admire your tenacity on such a critical, yet under appreciated subject. Awesome work. Good luck on your studies! Stay awesome!
It would be great to see a commuter rail line south of the Fraser, connecting Abbotsford and maybe even Chiliwack with Downtown Vancouver. The Surrey Langley Skytrain extension is going to happen, but as growth pushes eastward into the Fraser Valley, public transport needs to grow as well.
Nice video! I've always been a fan of Montréal's métro system and now it's even better with the new azur. The "rubber tire" noise that it make when the trains are leaving is something I always remember since my childhood. It is quite an iconic sound of the métro system. Now, there is definitely something you should talk about in a future video : the new structuring transit system of Québec City, that will change the face of our city. We will go from a simple bus system, to a system with a 23km long tramway line (including a 2.6km underground section in downtown), 15km Trambus (electric bus with dedicated lanes), rethinking the existing bus network with 16km of new dedicated lanes. They will also built some "parc-o-bus" where you can park your car at the beginning of the system and finally, they will built a couple of new "mechanical links" between the upper and lower town, accessible for all. The total cost of the system will be 3.3 billion $ and should be operational by 2026. If there's a city in Canada that will see a major improvement in rapid transit, I think its Québec City.
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@@RMTransit Fair enough
@@RMTransit I have filmed The Gardiner & DVP at night (Both directions) You can see the GO Train at around 4:33 in the video.
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I still prefer the Streetcars in Toronto
Just like the distinctive sound of Vancouve’s magnetically powered skytrain
Honestly thought the O Train would be last. As a regular rider we've had almost daily issues. It's a fantastic system when it works but it needs that expansion to finish asap
I'm super optimistic about our systems future here. Next time you find yourself at YOW be sure to check out the work going on around the airport. The spur line is really coming along
Thank you for this interesting video! So far I've only seen Ottawa and Montreal - hope I'll be able to check all of them up one day :)
A very fair ranking. Ottawa, Edmonton, and Calgary, in my opinion, are very difficult to rank because each has something unique to offer:
Edmonton - Large subway section, high floor vehicles, high speeds, mostly reliable; somewhat infrequent, no fare paid zones
Calgary - high floor vehicles, high frequencies, high speeds, reliable; at grade through downtown, no fare paid zones
Ottawa - High frequencies, fully grade-separated (including a subway section), fare paid zones; poorly constructed/unreliable, low floor vehicles
Given the current state of each system, I'd rank them:
Calgary > Edmonton > Ottawa
However, with Ottawa getting future improvements, perhaps it'll shift to:
Calgary > Edmonton = Ottawa
I think even after Ottawa improvements, Edmonton’s station count will more than double in the next 10 years and will become way more extensive
The CTrain (Calgary's LRT) you have to pay a fare except when in the down town 7th ave free fair zone (between City Hall and 8th St station)
@@seamusmuldrew5623 Edmonton's station count will double _and a half_ within *5 years.*
At which point, it will be Edmonton>Calgary>Ottawa. Ottawa's only hope in this league is new vehicles.
Ottowa should not be on this list it is not good for cold weather in Canada it is horrible and none of the problems have ever been fixed
@@MultiCappie I think the Valley Line will bring Edmonton's system on par with Calgary's - Edmonton will go from 18 to 45 stations which is what Calgary has today. But in 2027 the first leg of the Green Line will open which will bring Calgary to 60 total, and that's with the line only half completed. So I think it stays Calgary > Edmonton = Ottawa in the long term.
As a tourist who has used all the systems except Edmonton and Waterloo, I found the train system in Vancouver to be both more comprehensive and easier to use than either Montreal or Toronto.
Interesting to hear!
Vancouver's is the best in my opinion . Loving in Edmonton, the LRT is a disaster here and a lot of the lines that are surface, it's frustrating since a lot of them now run where there are city lights.
In Vancouver, its way better since it runs underground or above the city so you don't get interference with city traffic
1:51 - Waterloo
2:41 - Edmonton
5:13 - Calgary + Ottawa
8:50 - Vancouver
11:10 - Montreal
14:35 - Toronto
It's nice to hear someone who shares my enthusiasm for the Montreal metro! It was very hot when I visited, and, believe me, I hate the heat, but I did not find the lack of AC to be a problem.
Very solid list. Couldn't agree more.
Great video RMT but please consider using more visual references when speaking. I'd like to see what you're talking about as you speak more often.
A request: could you please create a contrast-comparison video for the rapid transit’s rolling stock across different cities? Love your channel.
The STM and Valérie Plante saw this video and got to work on the REM de l'Est and started planning the REM de Laval haha
And South Shore REM ! From Panama REM station in Brossard to Longueuil metro station
About Montreal's new Azur trains. It's such an improvement! It's true Montreal's metro doesn't have Air Conditioning and given how long and harsh our winters are, I doubt that we will ever have such a system. However, the new Azur cars are all interconnected and as soon as the train starts moving there is a nice and strong draft throughout the train.
The thing is, long harsh winters doesn't mean summers aren't hot and muggy.
It doesn’t have air conditioning but it has great ventilation. Regardless of the weather, it always have a comfortable temperature. Been taking the metro for years and the metro is always a safe place for people to go to during extreme weathers
@@RMTransit the new Azur train fixed part of the issue because the ventilation better in the train. I do not think it’s impossible it will be the next feature. Montreal have not create many subways station in 20 years but most subways station have been renovated. My own station of Sauvé probably one of the only one not renovated and stand as one of the worst station in Montreal if not the worst being surrounded by cemeteries (very odd location). Now many stations has elevators, TV Screens, most escalators has been updated the subway finally seems “ finished” with the new trains. For this reason I will not be surprise if EC would become the new thing.
Whaaaat? Indeed, there are streetcars that operate 24/7 in Toronto. That's amazing!
The nicest metro I've been on is the one in Vienna, Austria this past summer. Love the purple design on that one. Amsterdam's is good too. Berlin's is ugly. London's Undergeound is cramped and dirty. But by far the coolest rapid transit system I've been on is the elevated inverted monorail in Wuppertal, Germany. I took a day trip out there from Dusseldorf last summer just to ride it. In Canada, I actually really like the Calgary C-Train.
Any chance you would do follow up videos ranking US cities?
I'd love to see you do an Australian version of this video.
What I miss the most(other than browsing my phone on the subway) after moving from Vancouver to Toronto is the lack of fare integration between the TTC and other agencies unlike Translink serving entire area. On my first day, it cost me a full fare on YRT to travel from Sheppard to Steeles although I had a valid TTC fare lol. Learnt my lesson after that about the number of transit agencies in the region.
On another note, the rapid bus concept is nice too which peak hour express TTC buses don't completely address.
I really enjoyed using the LTT in Edmonton when I lived there! I find that KW’s LRT is actually somewhat hindered by its number of stops and location of the rails - it leads to a very slow trip lol like I could run to my destination faster.
The pedestrian bridge connecting the C-Train to Chinook Mall in Calgary is fully enclosed and heated. It goes straight from the station platform, to the food court. But I can agree with you, Calgary's system is far behind most other Canadian cities, but it is cool to see the high platform trains going right by at grade level straight through downtown!
It does not extend from Chinook Station to the food court, it connects it with the east side of Macleod Trail.
Yeah Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are all good compared to other cities especially in the USA. I think GO in TO is interesting but Vancouver beats them on subway service. Not sure about Montreal as to how useful but it's beautiful, that I know!
Vancouver is missing some critical links in its system. Connecting the three lines with the M-line west
Would love to hear your opinion on ride sharing. Do you see it as a positive addition to transit or as a hinderance?
It's gonna be so weird for people in the future to look back at these videos and remember the Coronavirus outbreak of 2020... this really will be a defining opener of this decade XD
Anyhow, excellent content as always! What do you think of the potential of creating a commuter rail network in the Edmonton-Red Deer-Calgary corridor and potentially out to Lethbridge and Medicine Hat in the future out in Alberta?
Which rolling Stock are they gonna use for the Edmonton-Red Deer-Calgary corridor
Siemens? and will they reuse the Old CN Tower Edmonton (Edmonton's main passenger railway station used to Operate there)
Alexander Ip I wouldn’t be surprised if it operates less on the scale of Montreal or Toronto’s commuter rail and more like the future Trillium Line in Ottawa on some serious steroids, whereby you could have Stadler FLIRTs that can carry 600+ people running every 15 minutes but going much faster than they are in Ottawa; approaching max speeds around 100-120 km/h. That’s my suggestion given the lower Density and population of the corridor compared to Toronto or Montreal!
@@alexanderip1003 The rumors I've read leaked out of the "Prairie Link" project is a 350 km/h operating speed, 400 km/h design speed which I suspect leads me to the Bombardier-CHR Zefiro380 trainset and they want to stop at Government Centre station opposite the legislature at 97 Ave/109 St...
Of the decade? More like the next 20 or 40 yearw
Random comment: Have you taken any classes with Richard Florida? I know he's at UToronto...
there are several site they are working on in Montreal to improve air conditions in the Metro.. I have seen them when traveling around...they seem to be coming close to completion..at least from the view of a passerby Also there is a new Pink line planned..The REM will operate the same hours as the Metro and at a similar frequency
Please note that this list does not include Montréal's REM (Reseau Express Metropolitan). I'm pretty sure Montréal's newest light subway line (soon to be a full-fledge rail system) would be mich higher on the list. Oui?
Some rich Albertans need to sponsor you and fly you to their cities to cover them. Come on Alberta, always boasting how you’re such big shots! Show him the money!
Haha!
@@RMTransit a little dare in hopes to provoke a positive outcome! 👍🏼
Vancouver transit is nice for its city size, Toronto TTC is world class level.
Interesting I actually have lived in 4 out of the 7 cities on the list and visited the other 2. The only city I haven't been yet is Montreal.
Waiting for that North American ranking (CAN/US/MEX/Caribbean). Make it a tier list rather than a straight up top X list.
TBH Winnipeg straight up needs an LRT, and I think their best solution is something elevated. Winnipeg has the Red and Assiniboine Rivers that flood so something underground would be a hard sell and the city has had such a messy expansion that IMHO a Smaller version of the Skytrain using LRVs would probably be preferable!
I'm still waiting for an update on this ranking in a few years
Next TTC rolling stock or Ontario Line should be like Azurs.
But with Steel wheels
A rubber-tire metro line would be awesome, although that is unrealistic to happen because it would mean the inability to transfer rolling stock between the lines.
@@DanTheCaptain I Still prefer Steel Wheels (*tire changing is arduous)
*I Did that myself when I took part in Automechanics in Grade 9 (Instructor Henry Axiak of Former Timothy Eaton B.T.I. would offer Free Lunch to who would beat his record in tire changing while keeping the tire and wheel completely intact)
@@alexanderip1003 I can imagine how much of a pain it must be to change a tire one of many trucks and bogies on one consist.
@chri1931 chri1931 Screeching Wheels are the best tho D:
LIGHT RAIL IS NEEDED IN HALIFAX/DARTMOUTH!!
West Edmonton mall didn’t exist in 1978 when the original Edmonton LRT line from Downtown to Clareview was completed for the Commonwealth games. West Edmonton mall didn’t open until 1981.
Once the GO electrification efforts to Kitchener are complete, additional stops should be added (east of Breslau, and at the Board walk with TODs, and maybe an infill at the GO Bus Facility (repurpose)). Using EMUs this shouldn't add excessive time while providing East West Connectivity. At the time CNs Huron park spur and Fergus spur should be used by go and upgraded to Electronic. Even if only one track is available, Kitchener Line trains coming in from Toronto could follow the loop providing a circulator to Cambridge and Guelph. Excess capacity could be used by a dedicated circulating route. If as small a region as Kitchener is hungry for Transit we have to feed the beast.
(A TOD at boardwalk would only be served by Diesel trains going to London).
What about the top ten US rapid transit systems?
Do a video on Winnipeg Transits system! Please showcase the southwest Transitway and discuss its issues because there are a lot! 😂
Reece Martin thanks a lot 👌🏼😊
Man, I've lived in 6 different cities and Winnipeg was the only time I felt literally handicapped without a car, living in Osborne Village, the best connected spot in the city
urik Exactly! It seems as if it was designed to be a car city and our people and gov are choosing to stay as one, very disappointing. 😔
@@urik it's sad living here
I know this is just trains but Calgary's BRT complements the rail line to cover massive sections of the city to complement the rail system with fast easy to to use transit
It's been forever since using anything other them Montreals. Toronto overall has more coverage and the streetcars make since still. REM will be very beneficial to Montreal and really opens up this city for those without a car. While the STM is clearly more beautiful and has great station the expansion of it has take a very big back seat to needed upgrades including many new elevators. The blue line awaits an over due extension to the east and pink line not spoken of. As well the orange line could really use one more stop to Bois Franc where the REM station is being built, this would alleviate the amount of transfers at Cote Vertru. As for streetcars here, I say forget that but these little electric self driven mini buses with ease access doors and standing room only are being tested along St. Hubert St. and could be good for tourists taking a small loops around the area.
Yet to jump on one of these future buses which are pink and go slow. Perfect for the test area which is neat walking shopping street with covers over both sidewalks. If the funding is approved and the blue does go ahead with everything I hope they start with cutting out a little more line on the orange firstly. Get it done all at the same time. The plans for the REM est are going ahead and expected to be done by 2030.
Montreal's metro system seems to have better network coverage overall, even if it's a tinier system than Toronto's. The Green and Orange Lines run parallel to eachother east-west traversing seven stops each in the central section, so Montreal's downtown feels so much more well-served by rapid transit than Toronto.
Ontario Line is coming but should have been built already decades ago. Fun fact: the Bloor Line was originally going to be in a U-shape starting from Keele and Bloor to the existing Christie Stn through Little Italy and Trinity Bellwoods and then across Queen Street to Pape before continuing up and east on the Danforth to Scarborough as is today.
Had that been built, Toronto would deservingly so be #1. But once REM is complete (plus the planned expansions to Laval, Chambly, Montreal Est, Lachine, Marie Victorien), Metro expansion (Blue, Orange to Bois Franc), Brossard LRT. Montreal region will have 100s of new rapid transit stations and leave Toronto in its dust.
@@RMTransit 2 now (the Sheppard west line was replaced by extension of *Line 4)
There's 2 lrt projects and a subway being built in Toronto with 2 extensions. Montreal will be left in Torontos dust.
@@Galaxyshooter116 I'm from Toronto, I'm well aware of the plans. Finch West LRT is a glorified streetcar and Yonge North extension may only be a 4 stop extension with Cummer, Clark and Royal Orchard omitted from the plans and no Centre-John stop even thought of. Ontario Line is also lacking in coverage. Doesn't even stop in the Distillery District or Liberty Village, 2 very high density areas despite going right through them. The best thing Toronto is doing is the underground sections of the Crosstown which may extend to the Airport and Malvern by 2040ish... Lol! Montreal is on track to complete most of the lines I mentioned by the end of THIS decade!
It's actually sorta sad about the streetcar networks in North America because Philadelphia has the largest trolley network in the entire US.
The reason the Montreal Metro doesn't have a/c is because the motors that run air conditioning units generate a lot of heat. As the subway system is fully enclosed(hence the word "sub" in subway)there is nowhere for the heat to dissipate.
Derp
as someone who lives in Montreal and frequently uses the bus and metro to go to the west island, I find that the Exo train is useless. I only take the train (line 1 - Vaudreuil) once in a blue moon. The reason why is that the STM offers many buses that goes to the west island which is more frequent and reliable, even during rush-hour traffic. Meanwhile, since Exo doesn't own any of the tracks it runs on, there may be delays because a freight train is passing or CN/CP (Idk who owns that particular track) is doing maintenance. Luckily the REM is being built with more frequent service, on its own track, which will definitely help me with my commute.
Was waiting to see how you would rank Montreal's metro and transportation network. Was not disappointed. Montreal number two! Wouhou!
Another good feature of the REM that you haven't specifically mentioned is that it is "swallowing" the oldest electric train line in North America, the Deux-Montagnes line. It is Québec's busiest train line and has been beyond capacity for years. Part of the problem why they couldn't just increase frequency is that there was a long segment on which there was only a single track. The new REM system will change that and improve the current frequency of every thirty minutes to an hour and a half up to about 2.5 to 5 minutes, even off peak hours. The REM will cover the west side of the island a lot better as well. The REM de l'Est will do the same for the east side of the island once the west side has been finished.
Where is Hamilton? We are going to get an LRT that has been brought back by a private investor after being cancelled by Provincial Infrastructure Minister Caroline Mulroney
How is Montreal building 67 miles of light rail for only ~4.4 billion USD? Portland is going to spending ~3 billion for just 13 miles with a lower capacity system...
Yeah, still it's a major difference and the fact that it's a P3 wouldn't be the only factor.
Roughly half of Montreal's new REM will use existing rail rights-of-way. The rest will be almost totally above ground (much cheaper than tunnelling).
Wait until the Hurontario LRT opens, ending at Steeles (way to go Brampton city council!) and lacks a direct access to Square One or pedestrian bridge to the Cooksville GO station (way to go Doug Ford!) But seriously, I would put Montreal's metro above the TTC, since it covers much more of Montreal.
I drove along the alignment of the Calgary Green Line last week and there are some signs of construction on the SE leg. The route has been mostly fenced off, cleared and levelled. The city centre and north segments of stage 1 have just been realigned, so it’s probably going to be a very long time before we see any significant construction. (-_-)
it has been approved and construction has begun.
I’m going back in a minute I need a
Could you make one for America please?
When will Winnipeg get rail transit??
The master plan is all BRT
Montreal's system is INSANELY good compared to Toronto when you consider it's serving 60% the population base. Until a few years ago, Montreal had as many metro stations as TO... again, with half the population. A/C in Montreal means doing the entire underground network, not just the cars... so it's a serious challenge, but a larger system with greater frequency would easy congestion and ventilation issues. That said, they have almost no heating bill in the winter and it's plenty warm. The TTC can't even convince it's population to use the subway it's been so poorly planned... Montreal's annual ridership is 70% higher than Toronto's in absolute terms. The one thing Toronto's system has which is FAR better than Montreal's is frequency. Also, the REM should prove much nicer than the GO system insofar as it will have a minimum frequency of 15min and run 24hrs and run much faster (20min difference from equiivalent extreme routes like Pickering-Union vs Anse-a-l'orme - gare centrale).
Actually Toronto's ridership is higher, Montreal's numbers are kind of misleading. They are high but not as high.
If you want to consider per capita… You should overlay Montréal’s system on either Toronto or Vancouver. Most people are surprised about how far Vancouver system stretches for example… it’s sky train is more like an RER/subway combined.
And with Toronto is more than just the subways… It’s the integration with go transit the new lines planned in the street cars
population of city of Toronto 2.3 million Montreal 1.9 million GTA 6.2 million Montreal greater area 4.2 million, Montreal population is not half of Toronto's.
Great video but show the maps!
The ETS LRT need to start accepting credit and debit ans expand to other areas and the airport
While the Azurs are beautiful and have better door design, I still think the Toronto Rockets are significantly more comfortable and spacious
@@RMTransit that's the one feature I really wish the Rockets had. They naturally attract riders toward the centers of cars which is essential to efficient boarding and unboarding.
@@RMTransit definitely easier to find seating on Rockets. Aisles are just significantly wider also.
Wait till the Ontario line is built they will have the Toronto Rocket Version 2.0
I haven't been on the Waterloo or Ottawa systems, but have been on all the others. I disagree with the ordering. The measure of a good transit system is not where it goes, but how many people actually use it. I compared the 2019 daily ridership to each city's metro area population and came up with this list: Montreal (31.7%), Toronto (24.4%), Calgary (20.7%), Vancouver (19.7%), Edmonton (7.6%), Waterloo (4.3%), Ottawa (1.0%)
See this is a pretty imperfect measure, I'm also thinking your stats have some errors. Toronto has more ridership than Montreal, I believe it's an issue with how the counts are done.
@@RMTransit You are right that Toronto has more ridership, but I was comparing per capita; because T.O. also has an extensive road system too (except the Don Valley Parking Lot) which is why it's per capita ratings are less than Montreal's (who's road system isn't that great).
All I was really trying to point out was that while the c-train doesn't go to every major destination, it does get significant ridership for where it does go.
Winnepeg & Quebec City will be needing to look at catching up seeing as Waterloo is covered.
Also shame to see no systems in the maritimes . . . Halifax at the very least would surely benefit from rail based transit?
Halifax is such a mess geographically and so spread out that LRT isn't feasible, the ground is very expensive to tunnel through and the CN Rail cut along the peninsula is already heavily used by freight (the South End container terminal isn't going anywhere) with CN having recently been a pain in the ass for Via.
The top priority for mobility in Halifax is connections to Dartmouth, but you're looking at a multi-billion dollar project just to span the Harbour, and unlike with the REM , there's no new bridge already being built that you can put rails on.
There WAS a commuter rail proposal to Bedford, but it's got quite a price tag and the demographic in Bedford/Lower Sackville is car-owning, with the planned upgrade of the 102 to six lanes likely to only encourage car use.
HRM does have BRT planned, going all the way to Cole Harbour, Dartmouth Crossing and the new neighbourhoods along Larry Uteck.
My Ranking
🥇1) GO Transit and Union Pearson Express (Most Rail-based Transit Lines [*8 count], Regional Express Rail) SmartTrack (Overground)
🥈2) TTC (Only Canadian City to retain Streetcar Service since 1890's)
🥉3) Grand Rapids Transit
🔵4) TransLink WestCoast Express (the only Commuter rail with a Dining Car)
🟢5) TransLink SkyTrain
🔴6) EXO and REM
🟠7) STM (Missing Line 3: Red, and Line 6: White)
🟡8) Moose Commuter Rail
🟣9) OC Transpo O-Train
🟤10) Edmonton Transit
⚪11 )Calgary Transit
*Due to increase to 11 lines much later on (with the coming of the Midtown, Peterborough and Locust hill line)
⚫☠️ Worst Rapid Transit System ever-York Region Transit and VIVA Bus Rapid Transit (*100% Carbon Monoxide Output as it is a Bus Only Transit)
*Which can be remedied through 2nd time amalgamation by turning the YRT VIVA into TTC Northern Tramways (featuring Double decker trams with single decker trailers as it was done in Hong Kong between 1965 and 1982)
@@RMTransit but only there are only 3 lines while GO Transit has 8 Lines
Moose
🔴Inbound 🟠Outbound
Arnprior Montebello Line
🟢Inbound 🟡Outbound
Bristol Alexandria Line
🔵Inbound 🟣Outbound
Smith Falls Wakefield Line
GO Transit
🔴Rail ⚪Bus
Lakeshore West
🟠Rail ⚪Bus
Lakeshore East
🟡Rail ⚪Bus
Milton
🟢Rail ⚪Bus
Kitchener (Formerly Georgetown)
🔵Rail ⚪Bus
Richmond Hill
🔵Rail ⚪Bus (No Cyan Circle Available in the Emojis)
Barrie
🟣Rail ⚪Bus
Stouffville
Union Pearson Express (Exponential Fares Apply)
The more lines the merrier
I'd switch up REM with GRT
That's the only reason why I don't hate the Viva system. Upgrading it in the future with green alternatives, either Trolley Busses or a Tramway wouldn't be too difficult. The only issues might be the parts of the system that brake off the BRT such as downtown Richmond Hill, or the various terminals.
@@Absolute_Zero7 I savour the second option "upgrading it into a Tramway" but using *Double decker trams (which includes a Single decker trailer) for most of the lines Excluding green which will use entirely single decker trams as portions of the green line are underground and merging Viva Purple and Viva Orange lines to become Viva Red, as a final blow have Viva renamed North Yonge Railways
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The edmonton system is not great right now, with the 2 lines that are passing on the same section for most of it. But then again, the Calgary system is so small that it does not even show up on Google Maps.And it makes sense to put Toronto first from a size perspective but it sizes makes sense with it's population size. Same thing for Montreal.
Keep in mind that Edmonton’s two lines don’t cross because the downtown portion of the older line is underground and the new line is being built almost entirely above ground, so tracks are not intersecting.
I was confused that you had Toronto ahead of Montreal because I feel like I’ve heard Montreal’s metro get more praise than Toronto’s subway... but then I remembered the commuter rail systems and it made sense to have Toronto over Montreal. GO looks much better than EXO, while the subway/metro are probably fairly similar in quality.
I’m from Halifax and I’m really wishing we got our commuter rail line. It was pretty close to happening I think, but negotiations with CN didn’t go well. I’d love to see you talking about Halifax & comparing it to other cities like this... but I guess it won’t happen for a long time. :/
Yeah the Gp Train is better than Exo for sure but Montreal has a denser population with not as many bedroom communities.
It wouldn't make sense for Montreal to have as extensive of a commuter train system. Where I think Montreal can definitely learn from Toronto is with trams. NDG, Ville Saint Laurent, Lachine, Lasalle, the Old Port, and Northern Montreal could all benefit from trams integrating those neighborhoods into the metro, EXO, and REM systems.
How funny. I came on here to make a comment about Vancouver's network, and yet you use almost exactly the same wording I would ("it punches well above its weight", "is very well integrated to the rest of the transit network", etc.). It only needs the Broadway line to UBC to feel "complete", and eventually it will get there.
I think it is the best system on the West Coast. In the post-war era in North America, it is much better than most. It ranks up there with the DC Metro, and the other two major Canadian systems (built for much bigger cities). As someone who lives in Seattle, it makes me jealous, as I believe we will never have that kind of functionality, despite spending a lot of money, and having a huge amount of track.
Toronto better than MTL? Hmmmm Not sure about that. The Mtl metro is better for getting around in general imho.
I disagree. Between trams, buses and subways I believe Toronto beats Montreal by a bit.
it it wierd that this is basicly a population list as well?
Why doesn't the Montreal Metro System have Air Conditioning?! You would think that it would be COMMON SENSE in this day and age to build ANYTHING having to do with Public Transportation with Air Conditioning!
I was referring to the Azurs! THEY weren't made in the 60s!
Interesting! Maybe they should install some sewer grates in the ground! This is why they should have installed air conditioning in the FIRST place until they have installed these sewer vents to accommodate the ac on the new trains!
Montreal's Metro is 100% underground. Full a/c would create too much heat in the tunnels and stations, and air vents can't handle the volume of air. The Azur cars move a lot of air quickly, so they "feel" air conditioned, but it's actually the continuous blast of air you feel.
@@markfinn0 toronto able to dig underground that sometimes the station can be cool or hot plus even with long summer in Ontario our subway still have A/C.
Talking about reliability, Montreal and Vancouver's metro systems are much better than TTC.
Reece Martin TTC receives fewer funds. Old is not a problem, Boston and Philly metro are as old, but much more reliable
To much light rail need more intermediate systems medium capacity and west cost express needs to be way better in Vancouver go transit is way ahead
Please put Montreal in #1 because of the new Azur trains
In defence of the lack of AC in the Montréal Metro. The evaluation of it during the design phase of the Azur train is that it would be counterproductive. The Montreal metro is mostly built in cold bedrock which makes it naturally cooler in the summer. AC would have cooled the trains at the price of warming up the tunnels and stations. Their is already a lot of maintenance backlog in those infrastructure and upgrading ventilation to evacuate the extra heat generated would not make sense. As of now temperatures in the Metro tend to stay comfortable pretty much all summer with exception of extreme heat waves. Then the largest comfort factor is actually humidity and smog making its way in the tunnels.
0:18 I don’t think the Americans heard that
Definitely varied by part of the country but I have to agree. Thankfully I was in one of the places who followed the advice
U 4got # 5! Which system ranks # 5?!
When two tie you aren't going to have a certain tier
i mean i would even put the T1s ahead of the azur trains but ok
Vancouver's disconnection of its rapid transit system from its biggest university is such bad city planning... I think it should have been number 7 and I'm saying this as a person who lives in Vancouver...
I couldn’t agree less, UBC is really not a very good early priority transit connection for a lot of reasons
@@RMTransit Well it doesn't make any sense that UBC, one of the most common destinations on the Vancouver transit system is so disconnected from the system. The 99-B line is the most crowded bus line in North America in a city of 2.5 mil (small compared to many North American cities) and is long overdue for a faster transit line. A metro line would make the 45 min bus which is many times full during peak hours only 17 mins with a transit line. 2/3 students at UBC are commuters and students make up a large commuter population on the system with student compass cards issued to everyone. The current system is highly inefficient and as a commuter living in Surrey it takes me 2 hours one way to get to the university one way while it is only 50 mins if you drive. A major city not having a fast and convenient east west connecter is rare and in your ranking many cities have that. The population of UBC is 60,000 students and most of them have this outdated and overcrowded system to deal with everyday. I am stating the sentiments that many students feel and I think ridership would increase alot if the commute was made shorter. The city is implementing these measures but they are long overdue... Here are some videos so you can see for yourself - czcams.com/video/mcWVrfvw_LQ/video.html
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I thought Vancouver's was good. Compared to Edmonton for instance. Vancouver's is integrated to other cities in Metro Vancouver
@lexal888 well I wouldn't place it dead last but definitely lower
ttc is a nightmare
Ottowa should not be on this list it is not good for cold weather in Canada it is horrible and none of the problems have ever been fixed
The thing about Torontos TTC is that it gets too much hype i find. Although Montreal has inspiration from Paris, Toronto is completely Unique. Just on straight opinion Montreal has a much superior transit system and is also CHEAPER than Toronto. Now im from the MTL area but ive been on both respectively on the same week so this is NOT a bias Opinion! I've find that Toronto does not planned very well its lines its lke it get pushed and pushed and pushed ALL THE TIME! Meanwhile even though the lines are nicely planned and lets the population choose how it should be created with some basic templates that they have to choose from it also get pushed an pushed and pushed like torontos renovations.
Another thing is that Toronto has WAY MORE delays and shutdowns than Montreal so its very hard for Commuters to get work during rush hour. Even though Montreal and Toronto has commuter lines Montreals has way more Uniqueness to its Commuter transit systems. Therefore Montreal should've been better.
I don't agree, I think Montreal and Toronto are quite similar
PATH is pretty useless it doesn't even completely connect
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Montreal should have been number 1. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Montreal Metro > Toronto Subway
All of Toronto's transit (subway + 24 hour tramway + GO) > Montreal transit (metro + EXO)
That's not to say mtl isn't on its way to surpassing Toronto, but it hasn't achieved that yet.
Stupid systems. Bus drivers with attitudes and an unreliable train