Thank you for commenting! That would def be an interesting change! I feel like it's also up to players to make that decision as well, some people lie that they're gonna do full run and then just leave after Yevgeny anyways lol. Team up could def be added to/changed.
I think it'd be cool if Malistaire could also drop the Yevgeny athames and if Shane's Star version could drop the amulets. More incentive to do a full run that way
Yooo IceGold, ty for checking out my vid! I def agree that would be a great change, I never even thought about Shane dropping Amulet before and Mali dropping Athame would solve the Yevgeny issue.
no longer play wiz but when i discovered discord a few years back, I completely stopped using team up. finding a group with a hitter that all knows their roles was just life changing for me. I think wiz is unplayable without using discord actually
Great video! I also see my name complaining in a screenshot you included. LOL. I am Scarlet Raincloud & Fiona Moonheart who did a run with you a couple days back and you gave me your username to check your channel out! You made excellent points. I think an endorsement system like in Overwatch would be beneficial for this game, considering how crucial it is to work with teammates for runs like Darkmoor. I recently got both of my accounts to level 100, and it took me 5 tries to finish the entire dungeon because people kept leaving. There's a LOT of selfish, rude players in this community.
Thank you for checking out the video! Yeah my runs since ours a few days ago haven't been that good either, just hoping KI does a few things differently in the future. Otherwise it looks like I'm gonna be farming for a very long time 💀.
Good points. I'll add one thing that I think hurt the dungeon; when they removed the gold key drops. I assume that a lot of higher levels, and I know myself, would run the dungeon for fun plus the gold key drops. It probably made runs faster and a little smoother. Like making it more possible for 3 wizards to finish after one person flees after Yevgenny. They won't bring back gold keys, but I think adding an incentive for higher level players to run the dungeon would be beneficial to everyone
Agreed witn your points. I got fed up with doing runs with people that i ended up just having two accounts play at once so i can ignore the toxic players and i tend to go back to dungeons like darkmoor and help other peoole that are not well versed in the game. Great video and if you need help with darkmoor runs i wouldn't mind helping
Appreciate people like you who go back to help other players as a higher level, y'all make Darkmoor much easier! I might take you up on that offer, I'm probably not going to be on for the next 2 days though lol. Either way, thank you for commenting!
I think an interesting feature KI should implement is one where it shows your level underneath your school when on Team Up. This would speed up the time one may have to go through if the majority of them on Team Up are lower levels or something thats way off than what the level of the dungeon should be for. Also I agree that a Team Up reward would actually incentivize players to help others in Team Up and promote good behavior.
I agree 100% with all your points. I think the Yevgeny athame should at least have better drop rates, or some alternatives. My Ice ran Darkmoor about 20 times, got multiple sets of Mali gear, but never got the athame. I had to get help from a max storm on the official discord and we ran it 10 more times until I got it. It's insane. Also, an endorsement system would be great, and I think it could even be similar to how the game rewards you for helping others in team up, like getting badges or exclusive rewards. And finally, YES I would LOVE some actual good bazaar gear in arc 2. I think the game could also benefit from buffing Alantea and Tartarus drops, and maybe even add another dungeon for level 80 or something. I think using Waterworks gear for 40 levels is boring, and adding good alternatives to Darkmoor or Waterworks would make the game more interesting. I personally dread hitting level 100 just because I know how irritating farming Darkmoor is.
Yes! I love the idea of another dungeon at level 80. By Azteca running WW is really annoying especially if you're on a non-hitting school. Sorry about your Ice, it's probably gonna be the same story with my balance lol 😥. Thank you for watching the video and commenting!
To be honest, I kind of contributed to this issue. I recently came back after 6 years and had no idea about the Morganthe change, only realizing when someone told me after many hours of grinding. For the next day I decided to grind Yevgeny, trying my best to make myself go through the whole dungeon as to not leave people astray. But after 10 hours straight of not getting anything I just gave up and did exactly what you mentioned and repeatedly left after the first fight, intentionally not informing people if I was staying or leaving. Obviously, I should have just stayed, but when there is no longer an alternative to an item of that caliber for the foreseeable future, it kind of puts things in a bind. I definitely thing that Kingsisle should implement the old Morganthe items or provide other alternatives or methods to prevent this. Maybe even a specific category in the team up section where you can identify a certain boss that you are trying to farm. Apologies for the text wall.
The fact that the Graveyard dungeon takes long honestly discourages me from doing multiple runs a day with my remaining Wizards yet to get gear that would satisfy me. It’s at the point where if my Ice gets better boots and my Balance gets a better hat, my Storm would have to farm Moros the Doom Tree.
Was running darkmoor yesterday and people are beyond toxic! Also only coming for the athame really messes it up for everyone else! Really ruins the experience for some people. Very much thankful for everyone who stays even tho they are farming !!❤️❤️
Exactly! So many experiences with people leaving after Yevgeny and it's so disappointing lol. I agree that the people who stay for the full dungeon even if they're only farming Athame are real ones though. Thanks for commenting!
My first play through of wiz ever, I had to quit farming this dungeon and move on because i got constantly flamed as well as people leaving after either secret boss or first fight, told to kms and other classic insults, it was my first bad wiz experience and it was shocking at the time
I'm sorry to hear that experience. My first time in Darkmoor was in 2020 and I felt the same way you do about it being your first bad wiz experience. I'm hoping that KI changes a few things and the community there gets less toxic at around that area because getting past Khrysalis without Darkmoor is really hard and as it is it's a horrible experience. Thank you for sharing!
Honestly you make accurate points about farkmoot as a whole back when the max was 130 I would try to help wizards through graveyard I told I'll help as a max it's our job to help the next generation of wizards with the game that being said I rarely ever go to darkmoor because that place has become too ridiculous and full of nonsense i remember doing ice wiz in graveyard it wasn't pleasant to day the least I hate doing darkmoor nowadays because its getting worse over the years but with morganthe athame gone it gottan worse back then some people would farm the zombie guy other would just farm morganthe after reaching her domain or using another wiz to do so myself included doing morganthe before ki made the athame legacy sad to say I remember doing darkmoor as a balance and some dumb fire called me a leech just for doing what balance wizard's do blading feinting healing and shielding you get the idea now that might in particular I would have gave the fire a piece of my mind and probably call him out on his shit but I was mentally exhausted that night because darknoor can mentally drain a person literally I even when I use my max wiz st the time going the extra mile to help wiz in graveyard well I still go but it's very rare that I do so few Days back I did darkmoot helping out a team and they appreciate the help which makes me smile but other times when I do the damn dungeon some people will leave after the damn zombie which frustrates me to no end some people are idiots I remember I joined the dungeon one night and told them I'll help them out with the whole dungeon buy some fool left before we go to battle the infuriated me but I got over it and just shake my head and disappointment I formerly loved doing darkmoor back in the day but nowadays I just don't it's mentally exhausting how to deal with idiots who don't know what they're doing.
Yeah I see what you mean! The dungeon has just gotten worse and worse as time goes on and it needs to be addressed. I've never been called a Leech on Balance before but my last few runs have def been super toxic. It feels like when you're not on a hitting school nothing is in your control and it's so hard sometimes. Thank you for watching!
Sorry about the spelling errors I was typing on mobile and my first darkmoor experience was in 2015 nearly a decade by now pretty crazy 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
Is wiz getting more toxic in general? I started a new character recently and had a few bad experiences in just Arc 1, which I feel tended to be the most carefree before. I can somewhat understand how major dungeons, like darkmoor, get some bad stigma due to the various cheats and how long and rng it can feel, but arc 1? I was more of a solo player before but honestly with some of the people I've dealt with its seems like anything requiring team-up is way more of a chore than a fun challenge. Not to say that the game has been overtaken. I still feel like the average wiz player I run into is decently nice but it's definitely disheartening to feel as though the more toxic side has grown.
I want to say that it really hasn't gotten more toxic in general but def in more focused dungeons like you said. I'm surprised people were being toxic in Arc 1 of all places but the Wiz community can be kinda elitist at times but there are still friendly players, you probably just got unlucky with the people you met. Thank you for commenting!
@FirestarterPlaysWiz they should have a 50/50 pity system after like 10 malistare fights you got a chance to get a teir 1 set peice but with the spend 50 crown chest they'd say we'd be to generous the crown quiz isn't fun
@@shanahandameral3110 True! the Wallaru pity system was really good so maybe they could implement something similar to that and make Tier 1 Mali gear craftable with reagents all 3 bosses drop.
I agree with your points apart from when you said about helping players who have no good gear (bazaar geae) into getting better athames/amulets etc. Im not the type who flames in chat but whenever I see those people I get mad because farming waterworks is so easy nowadays thay I find it unacceptable not willing to farm it. In short terms I considering it willingly sabotaging the process because you are too bored to farm basic gear.
I can't really fault for you that. It frustrates me too, I was more of talking about how people shouldn't really flame others (which you already said you don't do) and to see if they can at least get them to do something to make the run a bit better even if it's still not optimal. I also think that farming WW is standard and everyone should do it but no matter what we think there will always be players that don't want to farm it and being toxic won't do anything about it. Either way though, thank you for sharing your thoughts!
A simple fix to toxicity is a good ol’ report I always see people saying they don’t wanna report cause of how easy a ban is handed out but I don’t care I play the game to play the game if you join up to be toxic ima report and then if you say anything regarding the report you’ll get another that usually shuts them up the rest of the run 🤣
I wish there would be an option on team up to toggle “full dungeon” so people would know a player wants to do the whole thing.
Thank you for commenting! That would def be an interesting change! I feel like it's also up to players to make that decision as well, some people lie that they're gonna do full run and then just leave after Yevgeny anyways lol. Team up could def be added to/changed.
I think it'd be cool if Malistaire could also drop the Yevgeny athames and if Shane's Star version could drop the amulets. More incentive to do a full run that way
Yooo IceGold, ty for checking out my vid! I def agree that would be a great change, I never even thought about Shane dropping Amulet before and Mali dropping Athame would solve the Yevgeny issue.
I agree with you that a rewards-based system would be a huge benefit to the Wiz community
Thank you for watching the video, glad you feel the same way! Also, nice Ptitou pfp lol.
no longer play wiz but when i discovered discord a few years back, I completely stopped using team up. finding a group with a hitter that all knows their roles was just life changing for me. I think wiz is unplayable without using discord actually
Great video! I also see my name complaining in a screenshot you included. LOL. I am Scarlet Raincloud & Fiona Moonheart who did a run with you a couple days back and you gave me your username to check your channel out!
You made excellent points. I think an endorsement system like in Overwatch would be beneficial for this game, considering how crucial it is to work with teammates for runs like Darkmoor. I recently got both of my accounts to level 100, and it took me 5 tries to finish the entire dungeon because people kept leaving. There's a LOT of selfish, rude players in this community.
Thank you for checking out the video! Yeah my runs since ours a few days ago haven't been that good either, just hoping KI does a few things differently in the future. Otherwise it looks like I'm gonna be farming for a very long time 💀.
Good points. I'll add one thing that I think hurt the dungeon; when they removed the gold key drops. I assume that a lot of higher levels, and I know myself, would run the dungeon for fun plus the gold key drops. It probably made runs faster and a little smoother. Like making it more possible for 3 wizards to finish after one person flees after Yevgenny.
They won't bring back gold keys, but I think adding an incentive for higher level players to run the dungeon would be beneficial to everyone
Darkmoor. The place where I refuse to go back to get my next pieces. That place traumatized me so badly.
Can't really blame you there, besides PvP it's probably the most toxic place in Wiz lol.
Use the chest , I got everything in one run
I feel bad as a 170 fire and 235 damage going in and then telling them I’m only there for Aphrodite but hey, I needed my energy gear
Agreed witn your points. I got fed up with doing runs with people that i ended up just having two accounts play at once so i can ignore the toxic players and i tend to go back to dungeons like darkmoor and help other peoole that are not well versed in the game. Great video and if you need help with darkmoor runs i wouldn't mind helping
Appreciate people like you who go back to help other players as a higher level, y'all make Darkmoor much easier! I might take you up on that offer, I'm probably not going to be on for the next 2 days though lol. Either way, thank you for commenting!
I think an interesting feature KI should implement is one where it shows your level underneath your school when on Team Up. This would speed up the time one may have to go through if the majority of them on Team Up are lower levels or something thats way off than what the level of the dungeon should be for. Also I agree that a Team Up reward would actually incentivize players to help others in Team Up and promote good behavior.
That would also be good to see! I think there are already rewards for using Team Up but adding more couldn't hurt either.
I agree 100% with all your points. I think the Yevgeny athame should at least have better drop rates, or some alternatives. My Ice ran Darkmoor about 20 times, got multiple sets of Mali gear, but never got the athame. I had to get help from a max storm on the official discord and we ran it 10 more times until I got it. It's insane. Also, an endorsement system would be great, and I think it could even be similar to how the game rewards you for helping others in team up, like getting badges or exclusive rewards. And finally, YES I would LOVE some actual good bazaar gear in arc 2. I think the game could also benefit from buffing Alantea and Tartarus drops, and maybe even add another dungeon for level 80 or something. I think using Waterworks gear for 40 levels is boring, and adding good alternatives to Darkmoor or Waterworks would make the game more interesting. I personally dread hitting level 100 just because I know how irritating farming Darkmoor is.
Yes! I love the idea of another dungeon at level 80. By Azteca running WW is really annoying especially if you're on a non-hitting school. Sorry about your Ice, it's probably gonna be the same story with my balance lol 😥. Thank you for watching the video and commenting!
Wish that they made a solo feature for some existing bosses
When I played and did darkmoor grinding people were pretty chill and helped me with the cheats and gimmicks
Good to hear you had a nice experience!
thank you firestarter101 for another awesome youtube video
Thank you Keromoki for your awesome youtube comment
To be honest, I kind of contributed to this issue. I recently came back after 6 years and had no idea about the Morganthe change, only realizing when someone told me after many hours of grinding. For the next day I decided to grind Yevgeny, trying my best to make myself go through the whole dungeon as to not leave people astray. But after 10 hours straight of not getting anything I just gave up and did exactly what you mentioned and repeatedly left after the first fight, intentionally not informing people if I was staying or leaving. Obviously, I should have just stayed, but when there is no longer an alternative to an item of that caliber for the foreseeable future, it kind of puts things in a bind. I definitely thing that Kingsisle should implement the old Morganthe items or provide other alternatives or methods to prevent this. Maybe even a specific category in the team up section where you can identify a certain boss that you are trying to farm. Apologies for the text wall.
3:47 this is even more toxic than the first one 😂
The fact that the Graveyard dungeon takes long honestly discourages me from doing multiple runs a day with my remaining Wizards yet to get gear that would satisfy me. It’s at the point where if my Ice gets better boots and my Balance gets a better hat, my Storm would have to farm Moros the Doom Tree.
You can also do Krok and Rattlebones rematches! People have kinda forgotten about those in recent years I'm ngl.
Yooooo i love wizard 101 these changes sound great. Keep up the awesome content🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you big man 🔥🔥🔥
they just gotta make the yevgeny drop rate somewhat reasonable, i farmed it for 80+ fights on my ice before giving up
Agree with that, over 80 runs on Ice and no Athame is horrendous.
Ngl, this is the reason y i carry through darkmoor team ups on my max
Based tbh
@@Firestarter_101 lived through it once
Wouldn’t wish it for anyone else
(If only i could get other school gear though🫠)
Shame on KI for removing the good athames and amulets from Morganthe
I will not rest until Morgy Athame and Amulet are back to normal!
Was running darkmoor yesterday and people are beyond toxic! Also only coming for the athame really messes it up for everyone else! Really ruins the experience for some people. Very much thankful for everyone who stays even tho they are farming !!❤️❤️
Exactly! So many experiences with people leaving after Yevgeny and it's so disappointing lol. I agree that the people who stay for the full dungeon even if they're only farming Athame are real ones though. Thanks for commenting!
Ofc! Keep up the great content :)
bro 33 runs and i still haven’t gotten an athame. I also ran shane 10 times and i never got the amulet. The drops are brutal
Stay strong 😭🙏
I’m down to help some folks! If I see a team up I’ll join! Cheers- max fire wiz🔥
Bro is a real one
My first play through of wiz ever, I had to quit farming this dungeon and move on because i got constantly flamed as well as people leaving after either secret boss or first fight, told to kms and other classic insults, it was my first bad wiz experience and it was shocking at the time
I'm sorry to hear that experience. My first time in Darkmoor was in 2020 and I felt the same way you do about it being your first bad wiz experience. I'm hoping that KI changes a few things and the community there gets less toxic at around that area because getting past Khrysalis without Darkmoor is really hard and as it is it's a horrible experience. Thank you for sharing!
Great suggestions ❤️
Thank you!
I have farmed this dungeon for 9 hours without taking a break. Got all the gears except the wand
nice!
Big Ws out here.
your talking about the game in general nothing specifically about Darkmoor.
Honestly you make accurate points about farkmoot as a whole back when the max was 130 I would try to help wizards through graveyard I told I'll help as a max it's our job to help the next generation of wizards with the game that being said I rarely ever go to darkmoor because that place has become too ridiculous and full of nonsense i remember doing ice wiz in graveyard it wasn't pleasant to day the least I hate doing darkmoor nowadays because its getting worse over the years but with morganthe athame gone it gottan worse back then some people would farm the zombie guy other would just farm morganthe after reaching her domain or using another wiz to do so myself included doing morganthe before ki made the athame legacy sad to say I remember doing darkmoor as a balance and some dumb fire called me a leech just for doing what balance wizard's do blading feinting healing and shielding you get the idea now that might in particular I would have gave the fire a piece of my mind and probably call him out on his shit but I was mentally exhausted that night because darknoor can mentally drain a person literally I even when I use my max wiz st the time going the extra mile to help wiz in graveyard well I still go but it's very rare that I do so few Days back I did darkmoot helping out a team and they appreciate the help which makes me smile but other times when I do the damn dungeon some people will leave after the damn zombie which frustrates me to no end some people are idiots I remember I joined the dungeon one night and told them I'll help them out with the whole dungeon buy some fool left before we go to battle the infuriated me but I got over it and just shake my head and disappointment I formerly loved doing darkmoor back in the day but nowadays I just don't it's mentally exhausting how to deal with idiots who don't know what they're doing.
Yeah I see what you mean! The dungeon has just gotten worse and worse as time goes on and it needs to be addressed. I've never been called a Leech on Balance before but my last few runs have def been super toxic. It feels like when you're not on a hitting school nothing is in your control and it's so hard sometimes. Thank you for watching!
Sorry about the spelling errors I was typing on mobile and my first darkmoor experience was in 2015 nearly a decade by now pretty crazy 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
@@fredcoleman6594 You're good. Yeah it's insane that 2015 was almost 10 years ago wtf.
1:33 LOL I have a 58 damage ice in darkmoor rn. Trying to get the mali gear :)
I mean hey we all gotta start somewhere, and as long as you're not hitting you're good 😭
@Firestarter_101 i got yevgeny athame first try and im still below 60 dmg 👍
If some people are having trouble with darkmoor then ill try my best to help asap
Bro is a real one
Is wiz getting more toxic in general? I started a new character recently and had a few bad experiences in just Arc 1, which I feel tended to be the most carefree before. I can somewhat understand how major dungeons, like darkmoor, get some bad stigma due to the various cheats and how long and rng it can feel, but arc 1? I was more of a solo player before but honestly with some of the people I've dealt with its seems like anything requiring team-up is way more of a chore than a fun challenge. Not to say that the game has been overtaken. I still feel like the average wiz player I run into is decently nice but it's definitely disheartening to feel as though the more toxic side has grown.
I want to say that it really hasn't gotten more toxic in general but def in more focused dungeons like you said. I'm surprised people were being toxic in Arc 1 of all places but the Wiz community can be kinda elitist at times but there are still friendly players, you probably just got unlucky with the people you met. Thank you for commenting!
Why not make a system where you sighn up for however many bosses you're gonna fight before hand then no one will have a reson to leave
Could be good depending on how well they execute it!
@FirestarterPlaysWiz they should have a 50/50 pity system after like 10 malistare fights you got a chance to get a teir 1 set peice but with the spend 50 crown chest they'd say we'd be to generous the crown quiz isn't fun
@@shanahandameral3110 True! the Wallaru pity system was really good so maybe they could implement something similar to that and make Tier 1 Mali gear craftable with reagents all 3 bosses drop.
havent played the game in years and i got flammed by both the team i was with in game and in my chat on stream :D was not a great feeling
Yep, people on this game just flame for no reason fr 😭.
I agree with your points apart from when you said about helping players who have no good gear (bazaar geae) into getting better athames/amulets etc. Im not the type who flames in chat but whenever I see those people I get mad because farming waterworks is so easy nowadays thay I find it unacceptable not willing to farm it. In short terms I considering it willingly sabotaging the process because you are too bored to farm basic gear.
I can't really fault for you that. It frustrates me too, I was more of talking about how people shouldn't really flame others (which you already said you don't do) and to see if they can at least get them to do something to make the run a bit better even if it's still not optimal. I also think that farming WW is standard and everyone should do it but no matter what we think there will always be players that don't want to farm it and being toxic won't do anything about it. Either way though, thank you for sharing your thoughts!
This made me laugh so hard but it’s because it’s true😂
Glad I could bring you a laugh fr!
+1 👉🏽👈🏽🥺
Im sorry im leaving after yvgeny every time, hate the game not the player
A simple fix to toxicity is a good ol’ report I always see people saying they don’t wanna report cause of how easy a ban is handed out but I don’t care I play the game to play the game if you join up to be toxic ima report and then if you say anything regarding the report you’ll get another that usually shuts them up the rest of the run 🤣