The Worst Support Patch EVER? - Patch 14.8 Tierlist - League of Legends
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2024
- Support Tierlist for Season 14 for Patch 14.8 in League of Legends
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I will be playing league still, just about not as much. Very unhappy with the state of the game atm but things will be better... Right?
The argument that support is so easy is kinda funny, because an excellent support can carry, a adequate support exists, a bad support feeds carries
Riot rlly need to start respecting the support role, its legit the only role who isnt alike ANY other position, we legit play a whole other game within THE game... also justice for enchanters and they're lackluster skins, no visual updates ETC ETC.
I stopped playing League like 3 weeks before you did and started FFXIV and it's remarkable how nice everyone on that game is. It legit throws me off how people are nice and patient and not just constantly measuring their d^%ks against each other via their keyboards. It's hard to want to come back into the swamp after that.
ffxiv? the online game right?
such a boring patch for supports... you cant even play aggresive with those enchanters
Hi!
In my recent experience (currently Emerald) I like to play enchanters a lot, but struggle against engage/agressive supports. Well not actually me, but my teammates (specially ADC)
When playing in this situation my ADC gets constantly caught, or teamates doesnt have map awareness and when support roams, they get killed. So enemy team snowballs and GGs
To solve this (or If blind pick), I´ve been playing mostly Sera to poke lane so they dont dive us under tower when our jungler just afk farms, Janna to disengage and Zyra if I have an Agressive ADC.
I climbed a lot with Nami (to Plat), but If not ahead, I tend to lose and feeling useless. And tried some games with Sona or Milio but its even worse...
With that said, I´d aprecciate if someone could link a high ELO tier list
Cheers!
Rotating for first 3 grubs is kinda better as a support because now it helps kill turrets faster and gets the bonus from 4 vs 5, 6 being the same, but botlane is going to hurt after this patch anyways because what champs are being buffed
I feel like now, non supports are usually better than actual support champions
did u say zyra worked til gold ? or play ?
Thanks for the content. And I agree with you about the run-downs. It's not fun for anyone.,
My frustration comes from everyone saying that Support is OP. To me thats just insane. (Im gold btw)
1. We have less gold.
2. We have less xp.
3. We have less item slots.
4. We are expected to always give away any gold or xp when others are near.
5. Likewise we are expected to die instead of others if there is a choice.
The power of our champions are always at like 70% of their potential, even in the best of games. I personally feel i have very little agency or impact on the outcome of the game; i can win the vision battle, i can roam to mid or with jungler, i can prep vision for objectives and in the end...Its only about what sololane got the most fed.
Thats the majority of the game. IF its in my team, i just support that guy and get a free win, if its in the other team i can just aswell FF right away.
The only REAL impact botlane have on the outcome of a game is as a source of income for jungler and mid. Playing botlane (ADC or SUP) is just pointless.
I challenge everyone to go into their match-histories and go through them and see who really carried every game; and id be very suprised if its bot in more than 1 in 10.
Yet who are they buffing? All the other rolls. The once that already carry games.
I mean you clearly doesnt understand why is everyone saying that support role is op. Let me explain to you if you are really good you can influence every lane without losing much and if you as support mess something up you are not gonna get punished as much as for example jungler. And about gold and xp I think that support role is balanced with newest addition of support items which are really strong and if you want to have full potential with your champion just play solo lane :D (I play supp/top and my rank is eme)
@@martinchovanec8155 Both of you make good cases. I recently watched a video of Doublelift coaching his girlfriend through voice comms. She played two games as ADC, and one game as engage Support (Maokai). At the end of the support game, DL commented that playing support in Gold ELO was an absolute nightmare (probably because of the teammate factor). But on his live streams, DL is always saying how OP/braindead the support role is. So I think the difference in your experiences might really just be an ELO-specific argument?
@@constellation09
Ive heard this aswell. At low ELOS support is supposed to be the hardest roll to climb with; and top the easiest; at higher ELOS its the opposite.
I guess there is a reason that people that rank up accounts dont do it as supports.
Only questionmark I have @ that is that emerald is low ELO aswell, and the guy above dont seem to agree.
Ive started to play top a bit, and had my first ever penta in my fifthe game as mordekaiser. Anecdotal for sure, but top is really easy; you dont have to win your lane to be able to 1v1 every other champ on the map. (Except for the other top).
I dont know how it makes sense that top usually become raidbosses that you would need 2-3 other champs to handle; yet support is the OP roll.
But again, im only gold.
Dude /mute all play dmg champ / dmg items - be super selfish snd don't die for ADC .. get fed win game - ignore everyone and repeat 🎉
@@daniel19dj
Since SUP is op, the other rolls shouldnt have any issue with us taking all the gold and xp, right? But suddenly sups arent that important after all.
And the thing is, even if you play superselfish, you are still sharing gold and xp and behind, just take the same dmg champ and play mid and carry the game.
I completely understand your frustration with the game at the moment I can't stand to play it much either. If you did more ff14 content or even pokemon unite content with your son again I would be more than happy just to see you playing a game you actually enjoy
i main zyra, and i heavely feel that she does not do the damage she should, yeah she's poking good early, but after laning she just falls behind too quick. I feel like if they had buffed her plants, like give them some more hp and make it so they cant be killed by all abilities, that alone would make such a huge difference in her.
No, because she's a very strong early game champ. Good cc and a strong aoe ult. She's not meant to carry that into late game.
I'm back to having mental breakdowns after playing a few league matches.
I dont know whats up with ADCs rn flaming and INTing cuz they dont wanna play with enchanters.
Maybe it's just in Gold- but like things were good for a while! Teams were keepin solid mentals. But after my hiatus I came back to ADCs full tilting and genuinely not knowing how to pay their role. Then blame enchanters for the fact that the adc ran into EVERY Nautilus hook and they somehow dont know how to play against an Ashe anymore. I just dont get it.
I thought it was me but why does it feel like there’s so much more griefing, flaming and giving up. 😅 This season has been shit since the beginning.
Good evening, you are absolutely right on all counts! I took a lot of step back from LoL because of all the nerfs and the trash role of the support (by the community and by RIOT). Support enthusiasts like you and like us are really left behind... It's crazy to let a community deteriorate to this point. Is this RIOT's desire to kill their game and their community? For my part, the desire is no longer there, neither is the fun. The constant stress given by toxic people eventually destroys everything. I will continue to follow your content because I am also an MMO and MMO PVP player. Riot will perhaps wake up if the community flees this grenade. Thanks again for all the quality content on LoL! You have been a light for many people like me. Thank you sincerely.
after beign hardstuck gold adc i started playing supports form ur tierlist, just a boring enchanter style passive and i climbed to plat already
Hello 👋 I've watched your videos for years. I learned support from you, I feel the same way about the state of game. I'll support you whether it's league or not.
If the game is to easy for you,
Play Experimental builds ^^
I my self love to play enchanters in low elo (silver/gold) because it's really not that easy
The supports who really needs some changes in my opinion are Seraphine Yuumi Millio and Taric , Seraphine is way too weak to be a support she deals 0 damage her healing shielding is not that great Her cooldowns are way too high her E is kinds hard to land.they need to get her back to mid lane, Yuumi needs a revert she is so underpowerd and useless. Why would u play millio when u can play janna or lulu who can spam shields and deal damage and over way betrer disengage and they can poke in lane and have slows and cc, Tarics ult is way too powerfull they need to nerf ult and buff his other abilities
Is there a reason you have never recognized Camille as a support this season? I’ve never seen her on any of ur tierlists nor have I heard her ever mentioned by you. Ignoring her will not make her go away.
Sup we need to make more noise
guys can you tell me the new item order for Nami? what is for the first tho i dont get it water or downcore or moonstone which one is first? ğağağağağağ and really we need to heal not the most need first? i dont understand english very well :')
Staff of flowing water first.
@@Bizzleberry thank you so much
zyra should have been tier 1. She is still strong
i love bizzle !!!!
another worst support patch ? isnt that like the 3rd in a row
Hwei support? didn't Hwei get a buff?
Hwei support is only a thing for mouth breathers. He received better AP ratios on two offensive skills.
get your ass back on league of legends i just found your content after all these years
its tragic, I main old Asol and Nami
they killed them both, flipped their core identity completely.
Why would you play ASol as support when he is S tier in Mid??? Are you looking to just throw your elo away?
@@rpscorp9457 did I type, Old Asol???
was old Asol a support?? I am a mid main
@@catfood4142 Aurelion did get a considerable rework aye. To be straight up though, new Aurelion is much better then the old version as far as kill ppwer and surviveability. Used to be you have to keep them in the comets without dying.... Now you just hit them with E, hit R, then hold Q until dead....flee or reposition with W. Namis kit is the same as it always was.
@@rpscorp9457 I refuse to go on this topic, what makes you think you know better than a 2M high elo Asol otp? and what makes ppl commonly agreed on that old Asol was high elo exclusive and new Asol is mostly low elo dominate till they giga buffed his numbers?
please tell me more about this game, ppl are quitting this game cause how igorant some of you guys are
Dear supports ! Stop building utility items if your ADC is 0/5 ... build dmg items and carry the game
if your ADC is 0/5, no support is going to carry that game. Are you new?
Bizzle I love you but you are being a bit of a negative Nancy lately ugh
It's probably cause he doesn't enjoy league that much anymore
i like that bizzle backs up his arguments with actual good reasoning and expresses any frustrations in a calm collected manner, whereas ANY OTHER streamer maining any roles cough cough would most likely scream into the mic about how their 2 main champions got slightly nerfed...
Came for the tier list, learned nothing, lol that was fuckin depressing