Carlsen's Chess Is So Unique, It Leaves You Questioning Everything
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- čas přidán 18. 12. 2023
- Magnus Carlsen's Chess Is So Unique, You Question Everything You Know About Chess. This is his epic chess game against Hikaru Nakamura in the Titled Tuesday Chess Tournament, Early, on chess.com. Another exciting chess game between Hikaru and Magnus Carlsen as they vie for first place in the chess.com Titled Tuesday chess tournament.
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The most sick opening i even seen, dont think anyone have ever try the things Carlsen doing. He is just bored to play all the safe openings. We have never ever witnessed a player who is this strong and have so deep understanding about the game. Kasparov,Fisher never played this kind of fun stuff. Hope Magnus keep doing what he is doing for many more years 👍
Many years ago there was this anonymous online player, who in every game advanced all his pawns to the third rank and then crushed his GM opponents.
Many thought it was Fischer.
Yeah, it is clear that Magnus is the one player who thinks differently. He is the greatest by some margin historically.
ALL other players talk about the evaluation bar in relation to human moves and computer rationale. Therefore, suggestions the computer makes, that are beyond human understanding currently, are dismissed as a separate entity to live chess.
Magnus is clearly analysing the crazy methods employed by AI chess bots, identifying where humans will NOT see the deeper plays, and using the faulty rationale that AI chess is beyond us. Elements of it are not, and it appears to me that Magnus is the only who is actually evolving human chess as we watch in real time, by utilising these insane ideas that are being presented to us by superior technology.
When you break it all down, Magnus thinks about it in a different way, unrestricted by limitations, exposed by AI engines.
I enjoy watching Hikaru so so much and he is clearly the 2nd best chess player of all time, again by some margin from the rest. Some will compete effectively against him in bullet / blitz and some will handle him well in classic forms. But, few, if any, will stand toe to toe, over a sustained period, over both time formats.
But Magnus is clearly a Jordan, Ali, Brady, Phelps breed of the game.... He is cut from that cloth, in his own field. What a wonderful time to be a chess fan. Ideas that go way over your head, and way out of range of your personal ability, but you can see the genius behind the display regardless.
D4 or E4 ARE GM LEVEL MOVE BUT ROOK PAWN MOVES ARE SUPER GM LEVEL. MAGNUS IS PLAYING BY INSTINCT .HIKARU FOUGHT VERY WELL BUT TO ME NOT LOSING AFTER THOSE FIRST 4MOVE IS ALMOST WINING. a6 Nc3 Na2 b4 LOOKS LIKE BIGGENER MOVE RATHER THAN WORLD CHAMPION'S LEVEL MOVE.PLAYED AGAINST ONE OF THE TOP CHESS PLAYER OF RECENT TIME. EVEN FISCHER MORPHY NEVER TRIED LIKE THIS. MAGNUS IS BRINGING LIFE TO CHESS LIKE NO OTHER .
@@BWOOHAHAHAAA i also have see those games you are taking about, i think it was fisher to who was try playing cuple of games after i very long breake. Even doh he hated chess, he was not immune to play cuple of games just for fun. It was Nigel Short who was his opponent.
“Many thought it was Fischer?” But what hard evidence is there of that, or was it all just speculation? Years ago…when Fischer was still alive (although psychotic and a social pariah), on-line chess was in its infancy, and many players easily cheated by using computers. It could have been anyone playing those games.
I think Magnus, tries to get out of the formal openings, so he can use his magic, but you have to hand it to Hikaru he was able to go toe to toe...Amazing
Of course, I would expect someone like Hikaru to go "toe-to-toe" with Magnus! Isn't Hikaru also one of the absolute strongest players in the world? And isn't Hikaru known especially for his prowess at speed chess? Yes, that's what Hikaru is especially known for!
I think Hikaru would consider this a lost opportunity to beat Magnus. They are almost the same strength. If Magnus plays a weird opening giving his opponent a big advantage, Hikaru should have won.
@@pineapplesareyummy6352certainly should have
Magnus does not play like an engine, so we know he isn't cheating; he just plays in a very unusual way. True Genius.
or maybe he's just a *REAAAAAALLY* smart сhеатег ?? ;]]
He also beat stockfish who has 3400 with white pieces.
It's more so that he's combined how the CPU plays with his own human ability. The greatest flaw in the CPU is that it lacks ingenuity. You can beat it if you know how to bait it, but it can't really bait you. So Magnus is currently an ideal synergy between human creative and calculation vs CPU calculation, the former filling in for where human ability fails to completely incorporate the latter.
@@blanktrigger8863 ya man i've seen him play totally sick moves that no one should ever play, and his eval was down, but he likes to play openings or ideas that throw his oppenents off guard. He can play normal chess or go into Magnus God mode and turn everyone into ashes, making them doubt the life choices they had made up to that point.
@@blanktrigger8863 also you gotta take into account Magnuses memory is just insane, and his ability to visualize the board without seeing a physical one, is also crazy. This has been proved many times.
Dude, this may be your best to date. Top notch commentary...with a sense of humor when/if appropriate.
he's effortlessly funny, very enjoyable
Haha thanks very much for you enjoyed
Thank you Epic Chess
You are the best chess commentator till date
You bring joy to the hearts of chess lovers
Top notch commentary
Great sense of humour when/if appropriate
Effortlessly funny
Thank you for the fun
I love how he plays, like a canvas, he just does whatever and still pulls some magic, he doesn't rely on theory, just pure raw instinct and smarts
No it isn't. Carlsen has a team of people look into weird openings and how to make them playable to take people off book because it's where he feels he has the best advantage. That isn't about pure raw instinct.
Magnus is like a house cat, acts like he can get beat but hes really just playing with his prey
The genius of Magnus is he’s keeping chess fun for himself(and us fans) while absolutely torturing his opponents! The GOAT
You know it's a good game when the analysis is twice as long as the game.
Haha
magnus make me questioning life not just chess
You make chess sound more exciting than horse racing. Good work! 2nd best chess channel x
haha thanks a lot appreciate it!
good one
Sorry, you probably meant best channel!
Agadmator is the daddy. This guy is doing really well though. Really enjoyable
I refuse to watch Gotham
This is what makes Magnus so unique from the rest of super GM, he plays extremely awkward opening and confuse opponents even guys like Hikaru, yet he can pull it through , positional and tactical genuis
I do believe Magnus's magic is twofold. He has incredible intuition, even compared to other GMs and so when he throws traditional openings away his opponents have to play chess they haven't practiced the same way as the more traditional ones. That gives Magnus an edge already.
The second thing is that he finds weird openings that haven't been practiced and where a natural looking move by his opponent is actually a blunder (like Hikaru's one at the beginning of this match). That's a bad trap, when you're playing fast chess and you are in an unfamiliar position and your intuition fails you.
Yeah fully agree!
Madness Carlsen showing some insane understanding of the game while other super GM just run their e4 or d4 repertoires. Epic epic epic. Keep it coming!
They all have good understandings
"The silicon overlord"-- stealing that one!
I cracked up to that one😂😂😂❤
Silicon overlord. What does that mean. Please explain.
it's the chess computer evaluation ;-)
@@winbreit6111 When I google it, it doesn't show such a meaning.
Carlsen has always done his best to get out of opening theory. That's where many people get him wrong. It's just that it's impossible to win world championships in classical chess without opening theory. The more aggressive the opening, the more likely a quick draw becomes.
Here he's just having fun though.
Magnus ending with a perpetual? He must have been feeling the pressure!
He wins with a draw, and with an opening like that not losing is a win
@@JoshuaHults Fair
Big fan of your channel.. came here as soon as I got the notification. Keep them coming.
Sending love from Nigeria 👍🏾
Thanks very much and glad you're enjoying! Cool you're in Nigeria, yeah I hear the population of Nigeria growing really fast so I guess I will be seeing a few more people in the comments from Nigeria in years to come
To be fair, Hikaru is always brave - he often does similar things against Magnus and is always willing to fight it out.
Magnus might be the best ever. I've always skad morphy is the best chess player ever. Him fisher and capablanca always felt the most dominant. But magnus is just playing anything out of boredom dominance. Wonder if anyone else will eclipse his dominance in the future. Seems every 20 years or so a guy comes in and owns everyone else
I don't think it is boredom as many suggest. I think it is the next level of human chess playing out and he is just finding his way, in an arena that no one else thought to enter. It is clear that Magnus is the one player who thinks differently. He is the greatest by some margin historically. Some of that may be down to fortune of era, so to speak. Hard to say Federer or Nadal are better than Bjorg and Mcenroe, based on the fact they never used graphite rackets or benefited from superior biological advancements in diet and training etc..
The same could be said for online chess and engines, so cant be clear on potential greatness, dependant on era and info available alone. However, no arguing that the chess these 2 beasts play, simply outmatches anything the real versions of previous greats displayed.
ALL other players currently, talk about the evaluation bar in relation to human moves and computer rationale. Therefore, suggestions the computer makes, that are beyond human understanding currently, are dismissed as a separate entity to live chess and dismissed as unrealistic winning odds etc.
Magnus is clearly analysing the crazy methods employed by AI chess bots, identifying where humans will NOT see the deeper plays, and using the faulty rationale that AI chess is beyond us to his benefit. Elements of it are not beyond use when used to trap humans in places they currently can't see., and it appears to me that Magnus is the only who is actually evolving human chess as we watch in real time. Mostly by utilising these insane ideas that are being presented to us by superior technology.
When you break it all down, Magnus thinks about it in a different way, unrestricted by limitations, exposed by AI engines.
I enjoy watching Hikaru so so much and he is clearly the 2nd best chess player of all time, again by some margin from the rest. Some will compete effectively against him in bullet / blitz and some will handle him well in classic forms. But, few, if any, will stand toe to toe, over a sustained period, over both time formats. With the exception of Magnus of course. i actually feel Hikaru is the one player capable of evolving alongside Magnus.
But Magnus is clearly a Jordan, Ali, Brady, Phelps breed of the game.... He is cut from that cloth in his chosen field. What a wonderful time to be a chess fan. Ideas that go way over your head, and way out of range of your personal ability, but you can see the genius behind the display regardless.
None of the top players including Hikaru would name him the second best of all time. Several current players are better than him at both classical and rapid.
Actually Magnus,s style of play in the opening has been known since the 20s as the hyper modern style where white (or black) is tempted to throw their pawns forward while black attacks from the flank hoping to take advantage of the weaknesses left behind. What it means is Magnus is not just a great player but a fine historian of the game. Hikaru made a fine comeback. Nice game!
True haha glad you enjoyed!
Dude these videos are insane!!!! Love it !!!
haha thanks a lot, glad you're enjoying, cheers for watching
Great video as always
Great recovery by Hikaru. Good game.
Magnus has Magnus questioning everything he knows about chess.
Haha laughed hard during your intro commentary. Very entertaining 😅
😆 yeah just having a bit of un with it, glad you enjoyed thanks a lot for watching
Fantastic game review and analysis!
Thanks as always!
I love the games between these two!
I always played a boring four knights Italian, the day after subscribing to epic chess I became an expert in the woodchuck variation, Seriously fun game that one, thanks James.
Hahaha glad you enjoyed
Magnus opening play must have given every Soviet school boy (now old men) heart attacks lol! Magnus without a doubt is the best intuitive common era player.
Great commentary!
Thanks a lot!
Amazing, txh man!
Np glad you enjoyed!
Back in the 1980s Tony Miles played a6 against Karpov. The great world champion was not pleased ( especially when he lost ! ) Do you remember?
Yeah what a game v famous! I found out the other day as well that Tony miles once played laying down on a bed on his front because he has a bad back 🤣
You can get away with playing such an off-beat opening ONLY if you know what you're doing! Magnus' chess knowledge, understanding, experience, and natural instincts are second to NONE.
Two great competitors
I subscribed to Epic Chess and immediately found that I was able to channel my inner Carlsen. I tell you, never before have I beaten my little sister so badly. This time I beat her so hard that I made her cry and run to Mum. Victory is sweet indeed.
I recommend Epic Chess, for all your budding sociopathic needs.
Hahaha and thanks a lot
Best recommendation for Chess channel! :D
Really good easy to follow analysis for newbies: nice also that you follow lines and show why they won’t work for someone. If you went back over misspoken sentences and edited out verbal blunders that would improve the quality. Other than that, quality stuff and the sustained enthusiasm for the game makes this an enjoyable watch
Thanks a lot and for feedback! Appreciate it
Wow that was fun to listen to.
Hikaru is a monster as well. Great turn around.
Magnus is redefining opening theory from the edges
Magnus is the cat toying with the mouse before the kill.
Opening A6 is so disrespectful. My god Magnus have some manners
Fisher vs Short was even more extremely against all chess opening principles and still Fisher won.
magnus playing chess ..for learning us meaning our life
1:00
... Na7 what an excellent move! note how black cleverly prepared that square on the previous move. chess does not get better than that.
black is now prepared to strike forward with ... b5, sending the entire white force into disarray.
just another run-of-the-mill game where magnus shows that keeping most of your pieces on the back rank is the way to go.
My perception of Magnus has always been that he thinks outside of the box. I also have always gotten the impression that so many players feel they need to learn the cutting-edge theory the top players are playing and then understand the themes they use in the games, to attempt to win all of their games, that same way, since there isn't much left to discover in chess. I am also of the opinion that Magnus has gotten "bored" with playing all the usual stuff, which is what has prompted him to think outside the box and try things that are different. The first time I saw him move all of his pawns forward one square and then absolutely destroy an IM, I knew he was special in this regard, and it was why he was doing it. It wasn't because of something an engine said, though he may have consulted SESSE to see about the move order for a theme he was working on, but the basis of the ideas are uniquely his and they are a part of what makes him special.
It's like Magnus has set himself and his chess free after letting go of the world title in classical
Eval bar in the beginning is not a big deal.
I always read that as Tilted Tuesday.
That's why they call him "The Mozart of Chess." 👍🏻
Silicon overlord hahahahah. The computer hates it!!!
That was fun to watch 😂
silicon overlord thats funny
8:27 Almost seemed like MC was extending the opportunity for counterplay...like for shitz-n-gigglez.
Kind of like a Benko gambit structure a bit. MC should have won that game, but the fact he didn't means he probably didn't even study the opening that much, he played it on instinct.
Magnus' mom: Magnus, you need to wear your jacket right-side out.
Magnus: I can do what i want!
Watched the game live and I'm amazed black had a small advantage after four moves. I thought white was way ahead.
"He does miss it...he is human at times"
Out of all the world chess champions, he is the first of this kind...literally an extraterrestrial interacting with human beings pretending that they can understand him, so they feel comfortable about their reality
Thank you
Na7 😆 That horse skipped the bench and went straight to the bleachers...
Hikaru fought back well
Magnus has great imagination and a powerful computer.
Magnus is very daring.
I'm convinced Magnus just plays bad openings so he can have an actual challenge
It’s as if Carlson is seeking challenge through disruption. Heightens his focus.
Silicon overlord!
Magnus has much higher intelligence than other players. Chess skill doesn’t automatically mean ultra high intelligence. He knows 1) computers are extremely valuable for chess learning, and far more importantly 2) humans aren’t even in the same stratosphere of play as computers. Critically important, to say that a position is -1.5 doesn’t tell you anything. -1.5 after a couple moves in the opening means little because no human can play the exact 10 moves the computer has in mind to realize this advantage. -1.5 in a simple ending is clearly just winning. The number itself doesn’t always matter in an unclear or difficult position. Magnus is willing to go down -1.5 lines to get his opponent into positions where their moves are difficult to find. That 1.5 advantage on move 5 isn’t real. It’s not “white has a pawn and a half” it’s “white has a pawn and a half advantage in 15 moves from now with perfect 3500 level calculation”.
Carlsen should play the BOOMERANG OPENING (H4) against Hikaru.
Dude I feel the same, been playing chess my entire life and still suck lol. To be fair though I've never taken a course and rarely analyse more than a few moves ahead lol
Haha yeah you have to actively
Work at it to improve for sure! This channel has helped me a lot tbf
If you're considered a "professional" but don't ever question everything you have been taught and know in your profession, then you are no real professional.
"Professionals" worldwide live in their boxes made so rigid and inadaptive in an ever-evolving world. The logic is real.
This is why Magnus is a True Genius. He mastered the Generic way of playing chess, and instead of remaining stagnant. He chose to start playing outside of the generic box of "how-to-play-chess". Brilliant for everything and everyone to see what is possible when we just try to think outside-the-box. Be adaptable, Always.
he is the GOAT like MJ.
I just tried this opening and got mated in 9.
Haha been there !
In the very beginning, I wonder how Magnus would have replied if instead of 3.c4, Hikaru had opted of 3.a4, which truly would have restrained b5 (because if 3.. b5, then 4. axb, axb 5.Bxa! (& Black can’t play NxB because of Ra1xRa8, winning the exchange & a pawn.) Does anyone know if white or black is better after 3.a4 (instead of 3.c4)?
A4 was a great move on move 3 and move 4, white significantly better!
@@epicchess2021 Ah, good to know. Thanks! ;-)
If you have been playing chess your entire life … then may I suggest that you either decide on a move or choose another vocation
Haha yeah playing as a hobby I should add, not a job don’t worry lol
When Carlsen plays chess he is operating most of the times at Monad levels of informational activity...look at that word's definition because very few people in this world, know about this activity. Intoxicate urself with its definition...this is why he is unbeatable
what does leibniz have to do with this?
if only mr basman were still alive to see this!
Magnus is a Stockfish subscriber. 🙂
I the spirit of toni mile uk gm
Hey Siri - what are the worst first 3 moves for Black that don’t lose material? 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Groking the game of chess is, bonding with positional judgement, not mastering it, which means control. Obviously, Carlsen has been the only player in chess that has become chess itself but the opposition is literally & figuratively clueless. Niemann is going to b the other in the future of the game.
Hikaru should’ve castled first chance he got seems like the game went downhill for him after that well he did make it a game after all I thought it was the beginning of the end for him tight game great play by both Hikaru should realize tho Magnus is not the one to fall for tricks Hikaru is Clever that’s for sure Thanks for the game James hope you’re feeling better
Yeah v true and thanks a lot defo on the mend now!
nice
evaluation bars mean nothing in Magnnus's universe
Bonboyage
Magnus is the only person who is actually playing chess. Fk theory and draws. Everyone else is busy with same openings, same repetitive moves. Magnus is the fresh breeze in the world of chess.
Hikaru should be sad after losing a potential winning here. Queen invasion of Hikaru on b5 has balanced the situation for him. btw, welcome back ;)
Yeah and thanks a lot!
Magnus Carlsen asks the question: Do you even play chess?!
So Blitz = fun to watch?
Darwinian Mijaíl Tal evolution.
I'm actually more surprised by c5 than I am black's first 3 moves combined. I mean ????
Looked ok to me but you’re right it’s not a good move!
I’ve played 3/2 and it’s impossible to cheat
if he do this to tal..tal will eat him alive
niemann will never do stuff like that, i wonder why
what a rollercoaster of a game. how often to they blitz each other? I'd watch more of them go at it. I wonder how pumped up they are when knowing they're blitzing each other
Yeah and every so often plus they had a lot hold match in the speed chess championship which was epic
Didnt make me question chess. Not a good game by Magnus. Hikaru blundered not trapping the black bishop. He had the game. Magnus position crashed. Hikaru just missed Queen A3. But one thing i learn from Magnus. There is technically no best opening. If this was a video game, he would need to be nurfed 😅
I love how you noticed the extreme disrespect Magnus showed his opponent with that opening, the chessic equivalent of a boxer deliberately refusing to cover his face.
My only issue w/ your channel is the critique of every move by these players that does not comport with the engine's top 1-2 moves. No chess player is capable of 100% engine play.
On what basis should moves be critiqued?
Yeah Igu I think mentioned ‘the engines thoughts’ maybe couple times too many in last couple vids
What was so unique about Magnus' chess? Hikaru just blundered
Crazy opening play and so on!
Hikaru is just a memorizer, he has no talent
I think what needs to be questioned is the computer evaluation, we think chess has been solved because we have powerful engines but ten years from today those same engines will be weak and unreliable.
The computer evaluation is fine.
Magnus takes players far out of theory and preparedness