ESPN First Take: Mayweather Sucker Punch Debate

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Did Mayweather Throw A Sucker Punch?

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  • @nadastarr
    @nadastarr Před 13 lety +24

    headbutt was wrong. Ortiz was wrong. Floyd told him, you make any mistakes, you have to pay. he paid. end of story, no rematch.

    • @danh4435
      @danh4435 Před rokem +1

      Lol its so not the same. Floyd elbowed him. Floyd didn't want a hug? He should have not made it look like he's gonna hug too. Ur a Coward like him

    • @Mr66Danzo
      @Mr66Danzo Před 10 měsíci

      Typical Black People Mentality .

  • @andrewjenkinson8948
    @andrewjenkinson8948 Před 9 lety +44

    Skip likes to remind everyone how long he's been around boxing - which makes the fact he knows nothing about it even more stunning.

  • @shimewaza75
    @shimewaza75 Před 13 lety +10

    @huntnghunt Didnt Floyd and Ortiz touch gloves like 3 times?,i love how people like to ignore the fact that Ortiz try to hug Mayweather again and Floyd push him away clearly showing his intentions to continue the fight,people need to remember this just happen in a BOXING RING and the entity in charge(REFEREE)gave the order to continue FIGHTING and theres a famous rule that say PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES.

  • @BeautyOnEarth
    @BeautyOnEarth Před 10 měsíci +3

    i don’t know why anyone still covers floyd now a days man

  • @pheno23
    @pheno23 Před 4 lety +13

    Protect yourself at all times, they touched gloves. What tf is there to talk about but Ortiz lack of understanding what a fight is all about. I would've done the same. Mayweather was NOT playing after that vicious headbutt

    • @bigulf4872
      @bigulf4872 Před 3 lety

      It was a sportsmanship moment and mayweather showed a total lack of character. Sure it was “technically legal”, but that’s not was this discussion is even remotely about.

    • @lawhisper47
      @lawhisper47 Před 2 lety

      So are they trying to say during a fight where both fighters are face to face in the ring gloves touching and one of them eyes/face are turned to the side and the other just knocks them out it's a sucker Punch ok got it, I guess Floyd Mayweather isn't allowed to defend himself🙄🚮

  • @LennoxACE60
    @LennoxACE60 Před 13 lety +4

    Floyd would have never let his guard down no matter what... He got headbut, and 10 seconds later his focus was back on the FIGHT, once he saw the ref called time in, Floyd was right back in fight mode. Ortiz has himself to blame for his actions after the headbutt... In any other sport after a foul, the players know its back to playing, they hug it out once the game is over. Boxing should be no different

  • @Fifty50inc
    @Fifty50inc Před 13 lety +10

    @guitarsandcars39 ur absolutly rite floyd had enough sense to try and defend himself from that vicious headbutt, that could hav broke his nose or jaw or even killed him if he rammed his nose into his brain...ortiz didnt protect himself after such a bold dirty tatic thats his fault...i cant find away to blame floyd or defend ortiz in any manner...

    • @blaztoffsports9147
      @blaztoffsports9147 Před 3 lety +1

      The fighter has to square up first before you throw a punch.Floyd has to wait till the fighters has is up.Victor wasnt protecting himself.

  • @MrSirmirror
    @MrSirmirror Před 13 lety +5

    Ortiz wasn't sincerely apologetic, he woud'nt have purposefully headbutted Mayweather. He knew what he was doing.

    • @ZimMill
      @ZimMill Před 8 měsíci

      Intentionally Doing Something Wrong Doesn’t Mean That You Can’t Sincerely Feel Bad About What You Did

  • @jermed23
    @jermed23 Před 13 lety +4

    They must didn't watch the fight ref. cortez did bring them back to the center of the ring.

  • @huntnghunt
    @huntnghunt Před 13 lety +4

    if i shake your hand and in a split second i punch you, what do you call that? This debate is not about that particular punch being legal or not, yes it is definitely legal no doubt about it, but it just shows you the character of the person doing it. And Floyd is the type of person who doesn't give a sh*t aslong as he gets the money and his precious "W", and "0 loss" intact. That's how he acts and that's how he will be remembered, a "cheap shot artist"

  • @ello_ello_
    @ello_ello_ Před 9 lety +6

    "cornball brother"

  • @TheRealDian
    @TheRealDian Před 13 lety +6

    A head butt can also cause u to loose a fight!!

    • @cedmo7857
      @cedmo7857 Před 2 lety

      you lOse a fight
      your mother is lOOse
      note the difference, dunce

  • @deshawnchris2186
    @deshawnchris2186 Před 5 lety +4

    Buddy said, “he was in the boxing ring!”

  • @SILK97
    @SILK97 Před 5 lety +3

    So we just gonna ignore the headbutt??

    • @pochopayaso5949
      @pochopayaso5949 Před 4 lety

      Mayweather is hugging always. So he deserves headbutt and besides ref deduct points on Ortiz

    • @danh4435
      @danh4435 Před rokem +2

      What about the elbows by floyd

  • @Iamthechamp214
    @Iamthechamp214 Před 12 lety +3

    Protect yourself at all times...Floyd won fair and square.

  • @conner1ize
    @conner1ize Před 13 lety +2

    this why the world is moving to MMA, they dont take dives for cash or fix shit

  • @TheGSB2011
    @TheGSB2011 Před 12 lety +1

    Don't forget lennox Lewis and merchant

  • @dx-dragon4399
    @dx-dragon4399 Před 4 lety +3

    Guy illegally headbutts him on purpose than tries to say sorry 10 different times and doesn't defend himself than get hit with legal punch was it sportsmanship to hit him than no but the other guy all ready made it dirty

  • @mauricehaye9749
    @mauricehaye9749 Před 10 lety +3

    Skip Hates Floyd

  • @Lublue5
    @Lublue5 Před 12 lety +15

    end of the day flyod=undefeated and Rich

  • @3Brandon11
    @3Brandon11 Před 4 lety +1

    It's really funny how everyone is talking about Mayweather. Did everyone forget that Ortiz INTENTIONALLY headbutted? Like what in the world? Floyd should've kicked him after the ref counted him out. That was nothing on Mayweather, nothing on Cortez. Don't CHEAT! They had the nerve to say "all three men were in the wrong." Mayweather threw a legal punch in a BOXING match. Ortiz was only showing regret because he was in trouble. He was smiling and happy when it was done.

  • @julzyin
    @julzyin Před 13 lety +3

    the best punch he ever throw,,,when someone is not looking!! lol

    • @rodelbelen1257
      @rodelbelen1257 Před 6 měsíci

      no... ortiz is facing mayweather.... is he blind he can't see mayweather in his front??? ortiz did not protect himself that's why mayweather make a punch after the referees signal to resume the fight..

  • @ItsJimdevera
    @ItsJimdevera Před 13 lety +4

    it was a CHEAP SHOT. NO DOUBT!

    • @rafaelamaya6741
      @rafaelamaya6741 Před 4 lety +2

      The headbutt oh yea that was cheap no doubt

    • @Aldine281
      @Aldine281 Před 3 měsíci +1

      So was floyd elbows ​@rafaelamaya6741

  • @MegaMark214
    @MegaMark214 Před 13 lety +3

    joe cortez is a million richer now....THANKS FLYOD...

  • @diduknowfacts101
    @diduknowfacts101 Před 12 lety +1

    No Ortiz head butted the guy thats why Mayweather did it! He didnt give a shit if ortiz lost a point. He busted up Mayweather lps!

  • @Marz916
    @Marz916 Před 11 lety +1

    No. The ref said "let's go" and both fighter were in their corners, and the ref had already deducted points. Floyd never plays nice when the fight starts. He did the same thing to Shane Mosley, but no one talks about that because Mosley didn't get knocked the fuck out.

  • @shaund8554
    @shaund8554 Před 9 měsíci

    That head butt was mean. Apologise after the match lol

  • @Bexly
    @Bexly Před 13 lety +1

    the ref was not in control

  • @59wisdom
    @59wisdom Před 13 lety

    ESPN Presenters are inaccurate and opinionated. Fact 1. Victor made a illegal headbut Fact 2. - Ref stopped fight, took off point - Fact 3. Ref calls time in -Fact 4. Ref takes eyes off fighters - Fact 5. Ortiz keeps eyes on Ref - Fact 6 Floyd gets back to the fight..left then right combo. If you want to compare this to another fight - Look at Round 8 Highlights of Shane Mosley vs Mayweather - The difference in the outcome is Shane immediately puts his defence up and gets back to fighting.

  • @pyrohero2010
    @pyrohero2010 Před 12 lety +1

    Skip Bayless doesn't know anything about boxing. The ref said box...then he looked at the judges and was making sure the points were taking away. Ortiz was not even looking at the ref...he looked at the refs direction after Mayweathers left hook. Ortiz headbutted on purpose...Mayweather has always taken advantage of people mistakes all the time. Arturo Gatti when he was complaining to red, and also against mosley...Ortiz you should've done your Homework.

  • @EdwinM1211
    @EdwinM1211 Před 13 lety

    Listen to the question: Was it a sucker punch? YES! Was it Legal? YES! Who's at fault for this stupid ending ? All 3 of them! Man this was just an awful way to end the match, a disgrace to boxing.

  • @theprofessor219
    @theprofessor219 Před 13 lety +3

    LOOK AT THE REFEREE'S FACE ! ! !, .

    • @andyaim4764
      @andyaim4764 Před 3 lety

      That’s not a referee it’s Joe Cortez!!!!

  • @jersey4life31
    @jersey4life31 Před 7 lety +3

    WOW, thanks for the honest opinions guys. It was clearly a sucker punch, they should have been in opposite corners.

  • @PdiseOG
    @PdiseOG Před 13 lety

    I am a boxer myself and if someone hit me, i would not look away. One punch is enough to get my hands up and alert. The ref did NOTHING wrong, he said "lets go" the 2 fighters touched gloves and mayweather hit him. Is it mayweather supposed to wait for ortiz to be ready?

  • @AplayerDanny
    @AplayerDanny Před 13 lety

    funny how u call them idiots...when u spelled ESPN as BSPN

  • @RalphieMaysGhost
    @RalphieMaysGhost Před rokem

    If were talking about an up and comer or a lower level matchup: fine. Protect yourself at all times. If were talking about a fighter that bills himself as the best of all time and gets paid as he is then thats a cheap shot that waters down his claim.

  • @jerhemeurban4522
    @jerhemeurban4522 Před 9 lety +4

    So pathetic. I'm not a Floyd fan but when the ref says fight you fight.

  • @thepeople5589
    @thepeople5589 Před 4 lety

    That’s a small desk for 4 ppl

  • @Arz2003
    @Arz2003 Před 13 lety

    These espn guys are right on the money. STUPID BOXING WASTED ROBBED US OUT OF A PPV. ATLEAST CANELO AND THE REST OF THE FIGHTS DELIVERED.

  • @59wisdom
    @59wisdom Před 13 lety

    Professional Boxing, MMA, all the full contact fighting sports are sports where you are trying to knock the other person out. This is not the amateurs where if you get wobbled , they stop the fight. This is million dollar payday events, these men are at work. If Victor was a stop sign attendant and took his eyes off the traffic, we would have to yell out...." Look out for the Bus !". thats not our job. His job was to win at all costs.

  • @k20dc2r
    @k20dc2r Před 13 lety

    I guess you can say Ortiz sold the belt for 2.5 mil. Vs fighting to keep it for less money. I'm starting to see Ortiz does not have what it takes upstairs or he just showed how young he is.

  • @firemanv1
    @firemanv1 Před 13 lety

    thats a horrible way to win a fight like he did

  • @cacapupu1234
    @cacapupu1234 Před 13 lety +1

    Mayweather wouldn't stand a chance against BALROG

  • @TheShonuff888
    @TheShonuff888 Před 13 lety +1

    @DrGreenthumb1993 well that didnt make him win any more fan points he may have lost some.

  • @kujiisz
    @kujiisz Před 13 lety

    the only guy that is wrong is oritz that pull the headbut in the first place

  • @eljrclave8
    @eljrclave8 Před 11 lety +1

    In the DNA baby

  • @shimewaza75
    @shimewaza75 Před 13 lety

    So Ortiz headbutt Mayweather hug him,kiss him and they touch gloves,Ortiz apologises again they touch gloves ,then Joe Cortez said to Ortiz,Whats the matter with you?,dont be doing that lets go, and Ortiz touch gloves with Mayweather AGAIN and try to hug him AGAIN and Floyd push him away and is Floyd fault? is a cowardly act to throw a puch that is perfectly legal because he doesnt want to cuddle with Ortiz?the fuck? i know people hate the Money Mayweather gimmick but this is just ridiculous.

  • @limitlessgunzz79
    @limitlessgunzz79 Před 6 měsíci

    Sounds like crying to me😂😂😂😂

  • @BlackOwnedDollars
    @BlackOwnedDollars Před 13 lety

    @ForME4mi Im not sure what you are trying to ask me since that question was typed in poor english. What Floyd did was called boxing.

  • @factsism11
    @factsism11 Před 13 lety +1

    @MrSandman005 They blame every1 else 4vic losing except him,hes the only 1 2blame every1 else done their job well

  • @Tymer1123
    @Tymer1123 Před 8 měsíci

    How many times did mayweener elbow Ortiz?? Nobody say anything about that

  • @agesell415
    @agesell415 Před 13 lety

    All three were at fault because all three were in it together... Big set up. Boxing is dead and this proves it. Welcome MMA.

  • @xtrajently
    @xtrajently Před 13 lety

    Shamefull display by all three people in the ring..
    The most surprising thing for me was how quickly Ortiz gave up on that fight.. He's like a spoiled kid that just wans to leave once things don't go as planned..Guess the Maidana fight was an indicator of this,I just hoped that maybe it was a one time slip by Ortiz...

  • @oneroundmatch2011
    @oneroundmatch2011 Před 12 lety +1

    ortiz should be banned from boxing

  • @dkirek196
    @dkirek196 Před 12 lety +1

    im watching a youtube video of a youtube video

  • @yhantrixx
    @yhantrixx Před 13 lety +1

    joe cortez is an amateur!!!1

  • @huntnghunt
    @huntnghunt Před 13 lety

    @shimewaza75: there's absolutely no debate whether the punch is legal or not. It is legal. the truth here is that it's a sucker punch. Why should an elite boxer like floyd mayweather take advantage of a situation like that in order to win the fight? If floyd just stopped with the first punch and not land the second or right straight knockout punch, it could have generated cheers from the crowd as an answer to ortiz' distasteful headbutt. He's too good a fighter to do that kind of stuff.

  • @enemay
    @enemay Před 13 lety +1

    I feel sorry for any kid that looks up to Floyd Mayweather.

    • @henryyogen563
      @henryyogen563 Před 4 lety +1

      You will feel sorry for millions ..
      Who cares

  • @TheAAP2011
    @TheAAP2011 Před 13 lety

    Floyd did the same thing against Mosley but Mosley knew the rules and but his right arm up so he did not get hit. And if you fight Floyd u should watch at least one of his past fights and the last one was against Mosley! The Fight was on and Ortiz got KOd legal!

  • @BlackOwnedDollars
    @BlackOwnedDollars Před 13 lety

    @ForME4mi He hit him when he was down. Regardless of what. So at the end of the day, Floyd was justified in what he did. No dirty punch at all

  • @BlackOwnedDollars
    @BlackOwnedDollars Před 13 lety

    @diksterece Pacquiao hit Marquez when he was down. Same thing isn't it? Again, to say he was being unsportsmanlike is just a silly way of trying to negate how he did what he was supposed to do and that was win.

  • @guitarsANDcars39
    @guitarsANDcars39 Před 13 lety

    yeah it was a sucker punch, but IT WAS LEGAL. Floyd won but in a way that had me saying" WHY DID I BUY THIS FIGHT???!!!!" and ORTIZ proves how young he is and he IS TOO KIND. haha ortiz will get better but hes not ready for the top YET

  • @guitarsANDcars39
    @guitarsANDcars39 Před 13 lety

    @Fifty50inc yea, but floyd didn't get ko'd by the headbutt. theres a difference.

  • @LT42124
    @LT42124 Před 13 lety

    Why is a woman talking about boxing on ESPN?

  • @Forever.Remain.Nameless
    @Forever.Remain.Nameless Před 12 lety

    Bullying an old man? Are you serious? Did you just start watching boxing? Larry Merchant had that coming for years! It's no secret Merchant doesn't like black fighters. He hates Floyd, Roy Jones and even George Foreman! You guys really need to do your research before post your opinions on topics you know nothing about! I gotta go, I don't have time to school you right now........it is what it is

  • @Fifty50inc
    @Fifty50inc Před 13 lety

    ESPN should b ashamed! wat happen to eye 4 a eye, wat goes around comes around..ortiz hit floyd wit a "ehonda" (street fighter) style headbutt on purpose and get his punk ass tkod by a 50 million dollar cheap shot, he wasnt ready for that big of stage, he was being completly outclassed, and frustarted by MW skills lost his composure and got embarresed in the grandest fashion for his dirty move...instant krama!!! how can u hate greatness w/o hating a part of urself....ortiz got wat he deserved!

  • @boxinboxout1
    @boxinboxout1 Před 13 lety +1

    dont let the at ref get in the ring again!

  • @mv0014
    @mv0014 Před 13 lety

    Notice the black dude trying to defend mayweather. Just saying.

  • @shimewaza75
    @shimewaza75 Před 13 lety

    This is a fight for the belt and Ortiz should know better as a pro boxer to keep his hands up and be ready especially is the ref just restart the fight and you just thrown a malicious headbutt at your opponent, the reality is Ortiz fade mentally again,he got frustrated like in the Maidana fight and he quit Floyd was toying with him and he knew that,and lol at this dude trying to romanticize Ortiz and his actions because he wanted to seduce mayweather after throwing an illegal hit.

  • @princekody
    @princekody Před 13 lety

    @vidz06 yah ortiz was an asshole for doing that headbutt..but for u as big floyd fan do u like floyd winning that way??mosley was hugging and touching pac all night did u see pac pull something like that??but 2 be fair ortiz should have been disqualified for that headbutt.this is why laugh when floyd compare himself to the greats.

  • @factsism11
    @factsism11 Před 13 lety +1

    @Redrum059 A great fighter listens 2the ref & thats what floyd did & the ref did his job & floyd did his & the only 1 who did wrong was vic who didnt obey the ref WHEN THE REF BROKE THEM UP VIC TRIED 2SUCKER PUNCH FLOYD AFTER THE HEAD BUTT(ILLEGAL)HEADBUTT(ILLEGAL)THE REF PUT VIC IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER(RULES)FLOYD ALREADY WENT THE THE TOP LEFT CORNER(RULES)THE REF SAID LETS GO/SIGNALED WITH HIS HANDS TIME IN(RULES)MEAN TIME 2FIGHT VIC & FLOYD ALREADY TOUCH GLOVES(SPORTSMANSHIP)REF LOOKED @

  • @madera85
    @madera85 Před 13 lety

    Ortiz head butted him twice in the round he got caught in the 3rd one

  • @gotswoles
    @gotswoles Před 13 lety

    champs don't need 2 win that way

  • @boipinoi604
    @boipinoi604 Před 12 lety

    @DJUNKNOWNxx You mean if arturo gatti never headbutted mayweather, he wouldn't have been knocked down? oh wait arturo gatti never did...

  • @youngrizzle2003
    @youngrizzle2003 Před 12 lety

    Its funny how everybody talking shit about mayweather bet none of u internet tough guys would say it to his face...rule #1 protect yourself at all times.

  • @Francojacko
    @Francojacko Před 13 lety

    someone need to punch skip Hater Bayless

  • @slabz_
    @slabz_ Před 5 lety

    Lol espn used to be what fox is now

  • @jmanjumpman
    @jmanjumpman Před 13 lety

    @loy829 you obviously didn't see the fight lol

  • @ImWillieBeamen
    @ImWillieBeamen Před 12 lety +1

    Haters

  • @ashonpar3
    @ashonpar3 Před 13 lety

    It A sucker but stop all the Hugging any wayI been saying this for the last couple years

  • @dmlamar90
    @dmlamar90 Před 10 lety

    Meh, he would have lost anyway. If he had done it to mayweather, not saying he could since mayweather is always in a postion to attack or defend while touching gloves, people would have been ooooh Floyd lost - mentioned Pac and hung that hypothetical victory over his head. Victor should have protected himself at all times. Ortiz messed up, nuff said.

    • @jasonSC01
      @jasonSC01 Před 10 lety +1

      SUCKER PUNCH. If Ortiz would have Threw that Punch everyone would have said that Mayweather did not lose he got Sucker Punched the Same way Everyone is STILL saying & Knowing Floyd SUCKER PUNCHED Ortiz PERIOD Nuff Said. Mayweather is a CHUMP

    • @dmlamar90
      @dmlamar90 Před 10 lety

      No he's CHAMP. When Mayweather wins, he gets attacked just imagine if he lost....and Ortiz isn't that good of a fighter anyway, he's just a power puncher, that's all

    • @jasonSC01
      @jasonSC01 Před 9 lety

      SUCKER 👊 Chump Gayweather 

  • @knockits12
    @knockits12 Před 12 lety

    i like this black guy too dont kno his anme i kno skip because skip been arounf for awhile but i seen this guy a few times and he is like a black version of skip... the only thing is he cant hang with skip like old steve.. steve is the man also

  • @ThaWiseJester
    @ThaWiseJester Před 13 lety

    @Redrum059 Lets hope PacRoid will take the test

  • @beatboxingkoz
    @beatboxingkoz Před 13 lety

    not being racist .. im part black too hahaha it is what it is .. a black man will blind side punch their own mother for cash haha

  • @cpoblete17
    @cpoblete17 Před 13 lety

    @loy829 i agree..

  • @CuttySlick
    @CuttySlick Před 13 lety

    @ moko8861- I just wanted to comment real quick off of what moko8861 said about Manny Pacquiao... Warrior Yes good Fighter Yes Cheap Shot Yes...Manny Paquiao did give Juan Marquez a cheap shot while he was down on the campus after knocking him down & when he was asked about his illegal punch with evidence his answer was he was still grabing the ropes so in conclusion dont speak to highly on another fighter if u dont know your boxing Yada......

  • @vLinko777
    @vLinko777 Před 12 lety

    Lol Mayweather should have went to school

  • @l.lawmkimapialtu8108
    @l.lawmkimapialtu8108 Před 3 lety +1

    Cheap shot, of course, coming out of a cheap sportsmanship.

    • @upt_s4l3ward77
      @upt_s4l3ward77 Před 2 lety

      No it was not he head butted him on purpose he deserved it

  • @gotswoles
    @gotswoles Před 13 lety

    this is why boxing is dead! mayweath will always be a coward don't claim to be the champ of all time. can't even knock anyone out w/o sucker punching them

  • @theprofessor219
    @theprofessor219 Před 13 lety

    @virgietotax call it DEPENSE, .but i want OPPENSE , .hahaha

  • @delmarfo
    @delmarfo Před 13 lety

    Uncle Tom!

  • @ezzthemc
    @ezzthemc Před 13 lety

    I think it's safe to say that nobody's gonna touch gloves with Mayweather again.

  • @ThaWiseJester
    @ThaWiseJester Před 13 lety

    They did put them in the corners and brought them together! Lmao

  • @josiahivan
    @josiahivan Před 12 lety

    @PDPNDCM
    fair and square. looooooool, theyre both cheater

  • @Eljfroxs26
    @Eljfroxs26 Před 12 lety

    viva manny pacman

  • @osmelabdul7293
    @osmelabdul7293 Před 11 lety

    because outside the ring your gay weather choked ortiz its disrespectfull and his ducking pacquiao.

    • @rawo2187
      @rawo2187 Před 5 lety

      osmel abdul he beat pac

  • @Fernanana3
    @Fernanana3 Před 13 lety

    I simply think it was Cortez fault for bringing both fighters together(I didn't see Cortez say fight like he always has) and then look away WTF isn't the refs job to pay attention to the fighters at all times. Poor referring and a definite rematch cause Floyd won't fight pacman to scared.

  • @jazheichryssaraneta4943
    @jazheichryssaraneta4943 Před 9 lety +3

    coward shot thats all...lol

  • @magusalakcristituto449

    all of this fools never thought the fight was sold haha

  • @RazeenRed
    @RazeenRed Před 13 lety

    no way ortiz's is fault he walked upto mayweather, the ref told him to stand back. ortiz walked upto him