Field of Dreams ~ Lost in Adaptation
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Field of Dreams was based on Shoeless Joe by W. P. Kinsella, but how closely did it stick to it and how did it end up getting threats from J. D. Salinger?
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One small correction, baseball is also pretty big in Cuba, The Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Japan and South Korea.
In Finland we have our own version of the game (pesäpallo), and the national league is pretty popular.
Yeah...if there's a sport that only matters to Americans, it's probably handegg, maybe basketball.
Basketball is pretty big in belgium. Not soccer of cycling bog but I think 5th most popular sport
@@timothymclean Basketball is popular in China, and apparently American Football has a surprisingly large following in Germany.
Plus Canada has Major League Baseball teams, as well.
The “Is this Heaven? No, it’s Iowa.” line always drove me crazy growing up here. Iowa summers are ungodly hot and the corn naturally puts more moisture into the air so humidity tends to be higher here than Orlando, Florida. Summer in Iowa is hell, not heaven. So all those humans should be sweating profusely, not looking comfortable in jeans and rolled up long sleeves.
I live in Illinois, I never knew the unique humidity had somewhat to do with corn. I always just thought due to the flatness and nothingness the humidity had no where to go and just sits chest high and it’s brutal. That’s interesting, I would have never guess that played a part, I’m gonna look into it, thanks
@@edscmidt5193I think Illinois also might have to do with being relatively close to a large body of water
(The great lakes)
@@technounionrepresentative4274 it probably does, but I’m 40 miles south of Chicago and we don’t get effected by lake edfect snow really. But for the corn fields, I go fishing at this pond that’s by a corn field and a soccer field is next to it, when it’s humid and you walk through the empty soccer field it is a unique type of heat. It feels like the humid air is trapped over the field and it’s like chest high above the ground and it effects your breathing right away and it’s shitty.
I am completely on Salinger’s side on this one. That’s super weird. But also in retrospect it’s a really funny story, Kinsella basically wrote self insert fanfic about one of his favorite authors.
Have your heard the joke about when teenager girls write self insert fan fiction it's lame but when male authors do it it changes literature it was written about Dante's Divine Comedy but I think it applies to a lot of male authors
@@Tiger89Lilly probably similar to how nobody complains about strong male characters in action stories, even when they are shallow and don't have to earn their skills. Or calls them Mary Sues. But a man said sexism isn't a thing anymore so I'm not sure what the explanation is.
@@101Mant Well it's generally because a male Mary Sue is called a "Gary Stu", but even then they generally aren't criticized because they aren't as perfect, and well liked by everyone as a Mary Sue is. A good example of a Mary Sue is Rey from the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, where she never actually fails, or has any major setbacks, even in situations where it'd make sense. Compared to most male characters in popular media, they generally have a reason to be able to do amazing things, or do suffer some amount of failure.
And knowing that Salinger super hated movies and prevented his work from ever reaching the big screen, I knew what his response would have been once he knew this was getting adapted.
Hey! I have a story here about you dying...
I would guess that was not a selling point.
Cue my inevitable "I didn't know that this movie was even based on a novel" moment! 😅📖
I didn’t know it was based on a book either, but knowing now I am unsurprised
Mood (Also, love your pfp)
@@evonnagale3045 Thanks, I adore yours as well! 😘💜
I actually wrote a college English paper comparing the tone and voice of the book with the movie and it’s a surprisingly good and brisk read
Same!
I actually liked Annie in the movie. I thought she was a decent example of a protagonist's supportive wife because she seemed to have her own inner life, which is more than one can say for many protagonists' supportive wives.
Loved her in the gym scene.
“At least my husband’s not a book-burner, you not-c cow.” is possibly the best line in the movie.
"A sport that only really matters to Americans." Uh, Japan would like to have a word with you, LOL.
Seriously, for anyone unfamiliar, Japan is insanely in love with baseball. To a degree only, maybe, rivaled by the United States in the middle of the twentieth century.
I can't blame anyone who isn't a baseball fan, an anime fan, or Japanese for not knowing that, but still.
There are a few other countries where baseball is a top-5 sport, too. If there's a sport that _only_ Americans care about, it's probably handegg, or maybe basketball.
And Central America
@@timothymclean really depends on the handegg.
@@adorabell4253 the American version really isn't played anywhere else. Quite a few countries play rugby though. Basketball has much greater international reach than American football.
Baseball is pretty popular in Canada too
Dom: ''This story is about baseball.''
Me: ''Ah'' *starts falling asleep to Dom's gentle voice*
Dom: ''The baseball players are ghosts.''
Me: *instantly awake* ''YOU WHAT MATE''
Now image we arrange a game with the Cullens. Ghosts vs. Vampires!
@@CodeNameX001winners play the werewolves?
@@krose6451winner gets Bella, I guess
Given how Salinger reacted to the book, I’d imagine his reaction to his depiction in Bojack Horseman would have been apocalyptic.
Presumably he wouldn't have been pleased, but as he'd already been dead for four years by the time Bojack Horseman came out he wouldn't have known.
One of my favorite stories is about being a writer is about J. D. Salinger. A man tracked him down after being deeply moved by Catcher in the Rye. Salinger was getting his paper when the guy poured his heart out to him, telling him how much the book meant to him. Salinger was basically like "You need to be fucking institutionalized."
We leave the best of ourselves in our art. It leaves us more room to be assholes in life.
I think there's a reason Stephen King made a huge fan of an author one of his most famous antagonists.
I can imagine how awkward that would be just out one day then someone you don't know just starts pouring their heart out at you and it probably isn't the first time it's happened I can understand him just being done with it after a while.
@@pridelander06 John Lennon and Selena were both killed by their fans, so yeah.
Never meet your heroes . . .
@@pridelander06 Funny enough out of all his horror! The best one was the one that didn't have supernatural or fantasy elements in them LOL (That's what I loved about Misery, the fact Anne Wilkes, her actions, motivations, insanity, Goals and how terrifying she was to Sheldon was very realistic likely helped! Making her female also helped since at the time I read the book in high school as a Freshman! I was around alot of fellow guys who didn't see girls as a threat! You know "insert stereotypes here!" Me I'm paranoid of EVERYONE! Even pointed out the many way a female can destroy a guy because frankly they're explanation all come down to the assumption "she's going to play fair!" which also taught me that even those who "LOOK confident and assured can be naive as HELL!" I learned life ain't fair, and keep that "fight with honor shit in fancy pansy duels!" Cause real life, he who fights the dirtiest, wins! Frankly you fight dirty when you need to.....or prepare for it to be used against you accordingly!). His supernatural stuff was good yes (Fan of the Dark Tower and It) but frankly Misery will always be at the top
I hated this movie as a kid, but when I finally understood the ending, I found it to be profoundly beautiful. We mourn in different ways and even if it doesn't make sense at first.
I had a hard time really understanding the aspect of mourning and what dreams really are as a kid. That part took being an adult to get. When I think about it, I'm really glad there were other things to it that meant I would love it to grow with it.
As a kid who didn't care about sports this was the one movie that actually got my attention, especially because if it's messaging.
I loved this movie as a kid, both because I connected baseball with my family and the its themes of grief and loss. It was my first introduction to the ideas that you can grieve for something that isn't a person and that your feelings surrounding your memories of can change after thier passing. Also I liked Dr. Graham a lot.
Maybe Kinsella never read Catcher in the Rye. If I hadn't read it, and were just going by the title, I would assume it was about playing baseball on a farm, and therefore J.D. Salinger would be super excited about being included in a book like this.
I mean honestly, I think the whole thing is weird and whimsical, kind of like Being John Malkovich, and even or maybe especially as a hermit of a person would be delighted. I'd like to think that there were people out there who actually thought that's what happened to me, but eh, to each his own.
They certainly went all out in the “not J D Salinger” casting.
Yeah, that imagined reenactment summed up the frankly quite sensible decision making well!
Honestly they only other way they could go is making the reclusive author a woman
I was so confused watching this thinking to myself "I have a very good memory of Field of Dreams and for some reason the plot is completely different to what I remember? Like completely different. I don't think it even had any baseball in it." And it turns out I was thinking about What Dreams May Come which is also adapted from a novel.
They're thematically pretty close so the confusion is understandable.
So THIS is where "if you build it, they will come" comes from! I've heard it referenced so many times, but had no idea what was originally being built or who would come. (Mostly because I never cared enough to google it, but still.)
I'd always assumed it was an ancient proverb.
But no, it's a modern one.
@@alanpennie8013 Vintage proverb lol
Everytime I hear "Shoeless Joe" I immediately think about Damn Yankees; so I appreciate the parody music just being a cover of that song from the musical.
That was AWESOME!
The Idaho/Iowa confusion is even more understandable when u realize Idaho grows quite a bit of corn as well despite being known as the potato state
It’s in the Midwest. It’d be weirder if they DIDN’T grow corn.
Kevin Costner also really loves Idaho, so I would've made that mistake, too.
@@pugsondrugs5480 Idaho is in the Pacific Northwest, not the Midwest, but we did develop the supersweet corn variety here in Idaho
The Iowa/Idaho confusion has gotten to the point of parody in Idaho, with many novelty y shirts identifying this issue
@@pugsondrugs5480 Idaho is in the Pacific Northwest. It's between Washington state and Montana, thousands of miles from Iowa.
As an Idahoan (read: Iowan) myself, the Field of Dreams is a neat little thing. I have family that lives in the same town, and apparently my grandma's car is in the final shot (at least, according to her). And having visited it several times, it's... a baseball field with a cornfield, plus the house from the movie and a little museum. It's one of the few things my state would probably be known for (there are several murals based on it around town, plus apparently they're gonna build a stadium there for Major League games), and to be honest, getting the state wrong is very in-spirit. As for how we talk, I haven't read it, so I dunno
Fellow Iowan here have you seen the Raygun shirt “America’s famous potato-corn-tire state. Idawahio”. When Dom made the mistake my mind went straight to that
I like that you included how to pronounce Idahoan because that’s definitely not what route my brain took.
I consider myself an honorary Iowan as I spent a year as an exchange student in Dubuque, and I recognized some shots, especially the gym (rival crosstown school). Visiting the field was really neat, too, though at the time there was a weird rivalry going on between the familys whho owned the land th field was on.
What I don't understand Dom getting the state wrong but also putting in the clip where the ghost asks if this was Heaven and he goes no its Iowa. Like really Dom.
I can’t believe I had to scroll so far to find this comment 😅. I’m not a full Iowan, but I did live there for the second half of my childhood. My own cousins also say Idaho, so I can’t be too mad at Dom for the mistake lol
Ah yes, Field of Dreams. I found your description of it's cultural impact interesting, because while it indeed isn't the biggest name in movies it is a big deal in baseball. This year they are hosting, for the second year in a row, a official Field of Dreams game in Iowa (with the Reds and Cubs playing.)
_Wow!_ That is amazing, I had no idea - thank you for sharing that!! 😯🤯🤩⚾
Dom: Nobody except Americans care about baseball.
The Japanese: Oi!
That Salinger plot point is wild, I understand why the changed it for the movie.
Also speaking of Kevin Costner movies, did you ever review the Postman and the book it's based on?
Or do you plan on doing so in the Future?
I was going to jump in and say "Yeah, he did and here's the link" but then I realized that it was at Cinematic Excrement that I saw a review of it czcams.com/video/_Rr-J48goTU/video.html
I'd be interested in a LIA about that one too!
Yeah, that made me confused until I remembered he’s British. An amusing illustration about how European culture tends to view the USA’s renaming and ignorance of the ‘best sport’ (soccer) and preference for ‘that other sport they made up that’s like worse cricket.’
I'd be interested to see him do that too. I remember quite enjoying the book way back when, but have never seen the movie due to its reputation.
@@jsloanhpi Cricket is that one game where if the batter hits the ball the universe gets blown up, right?
My favorite Field of Dreams parody is still the one at the end of an episode of "Married with Children.
"If you build it, they will come. If you would like them to build it for you, press 2 now."
Also, dunno if you knew, the MLB just had a Field of Dreams game, that they played in the real life field, in Iowa. It was a big game, had a walk off ending, very popular
I'm always surprised when I discover that a Kevin Costner movie was based on a book. My brain just can't reconcile it for reasons that are a mystery to me.
*angry David Brin noises*
@@merrittanimation7721
Hey, I would never impune Costner's role in the Sundiver movie. He makes a great uplifted dolphin!
As an Iowan I'm quite used to people mixing up Iowa and Idaho (despite them being in completely different parts of the country).
As far as how we talk, the Iowa accent is sometimes called the newscaster voice as it is the style of speaking that news anchors often emulate for its broad accessibility.
Depends on your age though. Most Millennials like myself just sound very generic American. Though that newscaster quality is still present in the older generations.
@@robertgronewold3326 generic American and newscaster voices are arguably the same thing (with variations, of course). Also a millennial myself, though I've never noticed to much of a generational difference. If that is the case, though, I wonder if there was a notable shift between the author's generation and now.
@@restlessDSM There would be. My grandma was Iowan and she had a notable sound to her accent that is distinctly no longer common in the state. Though of course Hollywood loves to have Iowans shouting 'tarnation' or speaking with a southern drawl for whatever reason.
@@robertgronewold3326 Is there also a 'wash' / 'worsh' thing there too in the older people? In my area of IL people above 60 will say things the worsh the dishes and George Worshingtong.
This reminds me of the still-updating manga, Shiori-Chan, where a teacher is being haunted by Jimi Hendrix who compels her to create an awesome guitar song. The manga is really fun, but i can see people who knew Hendrix to be really offended as the author is taking quite a number of creative liberties concerning his personality and circumstances around his death.
It's one thing for a mangaka (or other author) to take liberties with someone like Jesus or the Buddha, who has been dead for millennia, possibly is a conglomeration if several people's deeds and life stories, and definitely had their actual life overwritten by their cultural importance, which demands that they be taken down a peg every so often.
Quite another to use people who are alive or recently-deceased.
@@timothymclean Agreed
@@timothymclean In that vein you may want to avoid certain arcs in Baki the Grappler where "Muhammed Alai" features.
@@timothymclean I understand where you're coming from, but the idea of being malicious toward other people's deities seems unhelpful.
There is a difference between criticizing a religion (the people involved, how people are misusing it, etc.) vs. making a mockery of important symbols of that religion. The former puts pressure on those who practice the religion to reevaluate how they do so, and thus can be beneficial to everyone, while the latter is just disrespectful in a way that causes believers of the religion to feel persecuted and defensive, or even just wounded. Even if you don't believe in it, to them someone they care about deeply is being attacked; it can feel like witnessing a family member being attacked. It's unproductive and ruins the opportunity to have a healthy conversation about the problems in the practice.
Every religion has genuinely good people in it who do deserve to have their deities respected, even if you don't believe in it and even though they have to share that religion with assholes who make everyone feel like that respect hasn't been earned.
Tl;dr - I guess I'm just saying we can criticize the practice without being unnecessarily disrespectful toward all people involved by smearing their deities. It's regressive.
If you did read this, I appreciate it.
@@Thimble-berry We fundamentally disagree on an important factor. You think that respecting a religious person requires respecting their religious figures. To me, that sounds like saying you can't respect an SAO fan while also making fun of Kirito. Respecting a person doesn't mean revering everything they revere, any more than it means enjoying everything they enjoy.
1:28 my guy Japan is obsessed with baseball as well. #1 team sport there.
Not saying I get it, but at least we aren’t alone in hitting the balls with the sticks and whatnot.
THANK YOU! I was reading the comments to see if anyone pointed this out. Lol
Not to mention the Caribbean.
This corny-ass movie still makes me tear up just covering the plot points. I guess this is one of those core memories for me.
Haha, corny 🌽
But seriously, I agree. The same as with Costner's acting, sometimes you just need something earnest and uncomplicated.
I am *begging* your patreons to petition you for a video on the new Persuasion adaptation on Netflix, it is apparently a complete trashfire and would probably make for a delightful video (and I'd love to hear your thoughts on the book which I love a lot)
SECONDED!!!
Ooh interesting! I'd like to see Dom do this too!!
The trailer alone made me rage quit before it was done
I was going to suggest comparing the novel to either (or both) the *other* cinematic adaptations: the 2007 TV Adaptation made as a cooperative effort between PBS's Masterpiece Theater, and the 1995 BBC version originally created as a several episode serial for TV (part of the same series as the 1995 Pride and Prejudice, I think).
I'd be interested in a comparison of the two versions, and how different choices were made to stay true to the original novel in different ways. Adding the latest Netflix adaptation to the mix would highlight just what a gross insult it is to the source material (I couldn't even stomach the trailer).
@@jaycievictory8461 Same. And after seeing some reviews on CZcams, I've come to the conclusion that it's this years "Cats."
"I hope you like baseball..."
I do, in fact, like baseball. It's literally the only sportsball I care about. I also like literature, and listening to Dom talk about adaptations, so this should be perfectly enjoyable.
You know what would have made the wife a WAY better character without having to change that much about her??
Make her have a backstory or something she's going through, like she loves her family and their life but the struggles of the farm is weighing on her and for years she's been getting more and more burnt out and keeps day dreaming of doing something crazy and impulsive and drastic just to feel alive again. Like she just wants to say fuck it to the humdrum of a lifestyle that isn't making her happy, so that when her husband says he wants to do this crazy baseball diamond idea, she slams her hands on the table and is like "YOU CRAZY SON OF A BITCH I'M IN!! LET'S DO IT!!!"
Honestly that would have made all of her enthusiasm or at least immediate willingness to go along with it make so much more sense!
Great idea. Doesnt take much and very relateabke
MLB started doing a "Field of Dreams" style game last year, and the first game was the Yankees vs. White Sox. It was a fun game, and the White Sox ended up winning which is very fitting.
Next up: Dodgers vs. Giants in a Sandlot in Encino!
What does that mean?
They play in a non-stadium baseball field? They wear old uniforms?
@@justincoleman3805 they play in the middle of a cornfield with a small seating section. It's actually pretty cool
I'm glad to hear that people already wrote fanfiction about real ass people back in the 1980s
Let me tell you about a man named Dante Alighieri in the 14th century...
I'm one of the people who has actually read the book, after falling in love with the movie in high school. You accurately summed up the relative merits of the two. It's always nice to have examples to point to that sometimes the movie is better than the book (Big Fish is another example).
Also, thanks for mentioning the score at the end - James Horner was one of my favorite movie composers for a while and Field of Dreams was a big part of why.
I've never heard of this book or movie, but I've definitely heard the phrase "if you build it, he will come"
I know nothing about baseball but I'm always excited for a new lost in adaptation video!!
It occurs to me that more people now know that J.D Salinger threatened to sue this movie out of existence than they did before.
If the Doms next video is "J.D. Salinger sued me and then it got worse" we now know why.
Seeing "Catcher in the Rye" awakened my inner edgy high schooler (shamelessly wrote a radio play of it for my cyber school)
I grew up on a farm (in California, not Iowa or Idaho), and I am here to tell you not to obey the voices you hear in the corn field. Very risky
Especially if they come from children.
The field made for the movie is pretty and modest. Dyersville is what you'd expect for a small town in the country. I'll need more writing examples for the speech thing(lived in a small town for a while about a half hour southwest from Dyersville) its a bit of movie history they're proud of and definitely a great set choice for small town Iowa
Have you been back lately to see what they did for the world series in 2021?
@@orly2me I haven't, I was there about a couple months before the game
Holy shit, I love this movie just because of all of the ripples it has. Never seen it, but I love diving into its history. Please indulge me.
For the non-sports inclined among us (oh no, the meme), not too long ago, Major League Baseball held it's first game in Iowa and called it the Field of Dreams Game. Iowa lacks a traditionally large sports market, so very few if any big league sports teams have ever played in the state.
The Field of Dreams Game was similar to other special one-off games that other leagues have held such as the National Hockey League's many Winter Classic, Heritage Classic, and Stadium Series games held outdoors in large open stadiums as opposed to the small, closed arenas that hockey teams normally play in. The difference being that baseball is usually played outdoors and the only thing different here was the location.
MLB did a whole bunch of fun promotional things that payed homage to the movie. The most blatant was Kevin Costner himself walking onto the pitcher's mound and delivering a speech (in which he asked the famous line "Is this heaven?" to which the crowd all together answered, "No, it's Iowa!") after members of the two teams that participated in the game walked through the actual cornfield into the stadium much like the scene shown at 8:01.
The Field of Dreams Game was a huge hit and fans called out how nice it felt to have a game that had the saccharine romance of 'the good old days of playing ball' which MLB did lean into by limiting the visibility of sponsorships and having uniforms that were more in line with those from the older days of baseball.
So, I'm really interested to see what aspects made it into all three of these things, but also, this movie is a beloved classic to baseball fans of all stripes. Not least of which because of Costner, who was kind of typecast as the sort of romantic/old school baseball guy. The year before Field of Dreams, there was Bull Durham and ten years after Field of Dreams was For the Love of the Game which is a movie with a whole other rabbit hole behind it. It was directed by Sam Raimi, yes that one. It was also based off a novel, but this one was written by the same guy who wrote the acclaimed novel The Killer Angels about the Battle of Gettysburg. It featured John C Reilly in it and Costner was actually nominated for a Razzie for Worst Actor for his role in it.
This movie was always a childhood favourite, and even as a grown adult, I still get teary eyed just thinking about it. 💔
“Ray… People will come, Ray.”
“… hey, Dad… wanna have a catch?”
Same here, I cry EVERY time. It was my father's favorite movie so it's really special to me, but even beyond that it's such a lovely film
5:52 The UK comedy 'Peep Show' [featuring Olivia Colman and co-written by Succession's Jesse Armstrong] also referenced the ''If you build it, they will come'' line!
I spent the entirety of the video being that one bird mesmerized by something shiny. Your nail polish taste is as good as your taste in book!
Seriously! I LOVE how expressive he is with his hands while getting his point across and his nail polish always catches my eye.
I live 50 miles from the IRL Field of Dreams (where the movie was filmed). And yeah, it's kind of a thing. They turned the site into a real MLB stadium where real games can be played. And I'm not sure how characters talked in the book, but the Midwest accent in the movie seems fine.
If Field of Dreams was set in West Virginia...
"Is this Heaven?"
"Almost."
Most important to get out of the way: Shoeless Joe was innocent. Second: Finally someone else who enjoyed The Postman. I thought I was the only one. Those said, I found in reading the book which I did some years after the seeing the movie, there's an odd feeling in Kinsella's writing that I don't enjoy, which I couldn't quite pin it down really. The movie however (my second favorite baseball movie behind Rhubarb) proves what a good story there was in the first place. Sports by their very nature lend themselves to being a religion if we use the definition of "a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance." So yes, the religious aspect of the game is rife in the story. It plays much deeper with emotions then a lot of sports. Or to be fair, I could just be bias as it is my favorite sport.
Innocent is relative. He probably took the money, but didn't do anything to throw the games. Also, the banning included knowing about the fix, but not reporting it. That's why Buck Weaver was banned.
@@carlrood4457 He didn't take the money. He was completely innocent and played the hell out of those games.
I also loved the Postman! And absolutely agree with you about Shoeless Joe. Also, fun fact: Once I got out of P.E. Class by claiming that my religion forbade me from playing Soccer. The religion I claimed to follow? Baseball!
One of my husband’s favorite movies. It’s baseball related. He cries every time. I get teary eyed, too. It’s a good movie. Didn’t know it was based on a book though.
Funny story: When I was a young kid (like 1-6) I often got movies confused with reality. I'm sure a lot of kids have this problem. I grew up in Southern California, in a town with the actor Dwyer Brown, distantly seeing him just living his life, talking to adults, being a general mystery to a small child. I also grew up watching this movie.
Mr Brown is the actor who played Ray's dad, who can often be seen in the background, walking around and being mysterious/etherial etc and then disappearing again.
As it's a movie about weird happenings, childhood memories and emotional connections, I have an interesting relationship with it. Even now, Its very hard to separate from reality, watching it kind of feels like being in the spot where the two dimensions I occupied as a child met.
Thanks to this video, I finally know where the "if you build a jacuzzi, they [the aliens] will come" line from Muppets from Space comes from. Much gratitude.
As someone from Iowa, I didn't quite understand the movie as a kid (and have yet to read the book), but as I've grown older, I appreciate the movie more and more with each viewing, the theme of pursuing a crazy dream particularly resonating with me. The film marvelously captures that magical sort of feeling of watching (and playing) a game on a baseball field during a summer evening: the grass, the music, the food, the bonding and connecting with other people over a shared interest, the atmosphere, and the sense of memories being built that you'll never forget.
I've visited the field/farm location in Dyersville several times and I get that feeling even more. The MLB game that they played there last year was amazing and I can't wait to watch the one going on this year!
As for the dialect, I'd have to read the book/see more examples of what you mean, but from the one I did see, I don't think anyone talks like that around here. Not to my knowledge at least.
Having not been interested in sports I had actually gone most of my life not knowing much about this story to the point that the fact that there are ghosts involved was a big surprise!
Speaking as an Iowan, no worries on the Idaho/Iowa mixup. Americans mix them up all the time too!
I mean, technically, Dom _is_ an American (he was born in the U.S.)
tbh if i wasn’t originally from a state that borders Iowa I’d probably forget it exists as much as I forget Idaho does
The only people who care about Iowa are presidential candidates and their parties.
@@stellabee2026 Well that breaks my Iowan heart just a little.
@@robertgronewold3326 if it makes you feel better after I moved to upper NE there are several people who've asked me where SD is on a map
I grew up about 20 miles away from Chisholm, so “Field of Dreams” was kind of a big deal up here. If for some reason you ever find yourself in this area, they have a nice replica of Moonlight Graham’s office at the Chisholm Minnesota Museum of Mining. (Which is the one in town, not the Minnesota Discovery Center along the highway, people have been confused before.)
Also I once watched Field of Dreams while traveling through Iowa on a charter bus back to Minnesota. It felt very appropriate to watch a movie about a cornfield while traveling through SO. MANY. CORNFIELDS!
Also it’s mostly a big deal because not many movies get made about my area or people from here (Bob Dylan being an exception).
BUT there was one, “North Country,” about women raising a class action suit against the mining companies for the blatant and continuous sexual harassment they experienced from their coworkers. (Which they did win) Which was based on the true story and on a book called “Class Action.” So if you ever want to do an incredibly heavy Lost in Adaptation, there you go.
4:32 wow, I never thought that hearing an Englishman say "y'all" would sound so... wrong. Like, it shouldn't, it _is_ the only distinctly plural form of the second person pronoun in modern English, but it does
Guy from Mexico: "Vosotros."
Guy from Spain: "Ante todo, como se atreve."
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter eh... not really. Spanish has the "ustedes" form, so the countries that don't use "vosotros" don't really need it; if anything, having 2 versions of the second-person is unnecessarily confusing
Fun fact. The movie is popular enough within the baseball community that they actually built the field and let major league teams play on it.
It was my understanding they left the field after filming. It was there when I lived there in 1992 and when I went back in 1997.
If you make a movie about it they will come.
To those of us in the Midwest with Dads, this is a legendary movie, and endlessly quotable. “Hey… Dad? You wanna have a catch?” is an ultimate tearjerker
This book featured prominently in my under grad thesis and I had NO idea it was based on a book (I was writing about baseball not movies though)
In HS my senior English teacher said if catcher in the rye, half of you will love this and half of you will hate it. I, to this day, LOATH catcher in the rye and Holden caufield
there is pretty much only one not creepy or insufferable character in the entire book, and that's Holden's little sister
it's still an interesting read for just the thought processes of the characters, even though they are all such assholes(though this may be biased opinion as this wasn't a required school read for me, that was damn tom sawyer)
As cliche as it sounds this movie, along with the birth of my first son a couple of months later, moved me to reconnect with my estranged father. We've been close ever since.
🥺🥲 That is so moving! I'm glad for you, and thank you for sharing ♥️
As someone whose College bowl team was "Dyersville" (the location of the filmed field), at a little college 30 miles south of the border, it's IOWA (little state wedged between Illinois and Missouri famous for corn). Not Idaho (tall thin state known for Potatoes). An Idahoen field of dreams would also likely have a Mormon cast (which would make things really odd).
For one thing, corn takes a LOT of water to grow. Iowa is about as far west as the major fields (usually alternating with soybeans year to year) go (it's wheat past there). Idaho is pretty dry and dependent of irrigation (as well as quite mountainous). From Iowa to about Ohio, you can drive for 12+ hours and see corn field after corn field (and the occasional city, Chicago is about a half day away from the field (by road).
My dad passed away last year. He was 93 and we always got along great. I watched this on Father's Day this year and I think I will every year from now on. It's not ABOUT baseball. It could have been anything that connects generations. It's like the "one thing" from CIty Slickers. Everyone has it, but it's something personal. Kinsella just picked baseball because that was his thing.
Field of Dreams was the very first DVD my family owned, my sister and I gifting it to our dad for his birthday. It was one of his favorite movies, but I’m pretty sure we never watched it again until two years ago, the night after we scattered his ashes. It was weird watching a movie about meeting the ghost of your dad right after ours had died, on a screen way too big for the ancient DVD’s pixel rate, but it was cathartic too.
"...a sport that only really matters to Americans..."
*glances hesitantly at Japan*
Actually, baseball is pretty huge in Japan to
You know, when Dom says "my beautiful watchers" I believe him, and I feel beautiful for a second. Thank you for that, good sir.
I am from a big baseball family so this was definitely a movie always on as a kid. And the Sandlot... God. The Sandlot.
A tasty comment for the algorithm.
Il Neige always kills it with the outro music. They constaly have such fun lyrics. Sophie also does such amazing editing, so well done that I barely notice it. The video flows so perfectly.
Also yay! Cat! I live for the bloopers!
And very familiar to me... It's a cover from the musical "Damn Yankees". Can't blame him, though... the musical is fantastic on its own.
My dad loves this movie, so I'm excited I get to let him know it is a book as well. Unlike Dom, he is THE target audience. He's even named after a baseball player.
I had no idea the plot of this movie was so batshit crazy. I thought it was just, guy hears voices, guy makes baseball field, ghost baseball players come, plays baseball, plays baseball with ghost dad for some reason, movie over. That seemed crazy enough but I didn't realize that was only like a third of it and the rest was even weirder.
I never knew where the quote "If you build it, he/they will come" came from, but I can tell you that I 100% would never have guessed that it came from a movie about baseball.
Great episode. I’ve never seen the movie but always known about it through cultural osmosis.
I saw FIELD OF DREAMS when I was nine or ten and found the voice so incredibly creepy. Then I watched it again last year and was utterly baffled by its logic. I'm probably nitpicking and missing some themes, but I thought it could use a bit more worldbuilding and it's a bit blinkered and idealistic when it comes to the reality of baseball as an institution (though I understand that that's part of the narrative it's trying to tell). Burt Lancaster and James Earl Jones are the best parts of it, though.
I have never seen this film and idgaf about beisbol but when the dad said "is this heaven" i teared up. Man this is a good movie.
Dom: I know it involves a base and, probably, a ball.
Me: you’re not wrong. But forgot the bat.
Ohl, oh! Postman was written by David Brin. Have you ever considered doing a Lost in Adaptation over that?
I have very vague memories of watching the movie as a child & from what I remember I was very intrigued by who "they" might be and what "it" is. It felt quite suspensful for a while. Then the reveal made me go "whot" and never rewatched that movie.
Just wanted to say I also unironically enjoyed Waterworld when I was younger. We are not alone!
I think what this film captures is the difficulty kids had connecting with their fathers. Even in relatively happy families with good relations, fathers were historically often distant due to culture and the fact they were far more likely to be working. Even on weekends, dads tended to be doing chores. Those times he actually did have the time to have a catch with you were pretty special for many generations in the US.
Rocked-out version of a "Damn Yankees" song! My day -- made.
So glad the film version at least put some effort into giving Ray's wife a personality. I still wish she had a little bit more to do, but honestly, if a character is merely going to be a "beautiful plank of wood," the inherently interesting Amy Madigan isn't the best casting choice.
"inherently interesting Amy Madigan"? 🤔 I know nothing about her, saw Field of Dreams not long after Grey's Anatomy started so I recognized her as Meredith's mom, but you have made me very curious, as to why you would say that!! I gotta look her up!
@@becauseimafan She's the only thing that makes the cult classic "Streets of Fire" (1984) watchable, IMO. Plus a couple of good songs.
Loved the episode, and now i need to put on JoCo’s Kenesaw Mountain Landis for no reason 😁 (oh and personally as i Brit I’ve always understood baseball as rounders with a bigger stick)
I'm not an emotional guy, but I have to admit I well up every time I hear Costner say, "Dad, you wanna have a catch?"
this is my dad's favorite film and I feel very fond of it for mostly that reason
Saw almost sued by author of Catcher In The Rye and clicked instantly
I read you comment as the horror franchise Saw almost got sued by the author of Catcher in the Rye.
@@nonspiderweb lmao now I'm intrigued what happened? 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If I had a penny for every time I was entirely incapable of understanding the plot of “field of dreams” because I was only slightly intoxicated despite having it spoon fed to me, I’d have two pennies
Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice
Huh. I never realised this film was based on a book. I haven't actually seen it for years but I remember it making me cry. I might check it out again. Thanks for the video Dom. Also, love the nail varnish!
not surprised by the j d salinger reaction. i work at a bookstore and we have an activity book of paper dolls, like edgar allen poe and other famous 20th century authors, and there's a note at the back that says "J D Salinger asked to be removed from this book"
Could you continue the Narnia series? Just dying to hear you talk about that glorious universe
The Postman?! I watched the movie because I really liked the original book by David Brin. I felt very moved by the book.
I remember seeing this with one of my best friends (David), when he was still in college, his roommate and his fiancee. At the end of the movie, three of us were crying and David (who has and always had a great relationship with is father) was looking at us like we were crazy.
I also was a huge Kevin Costner fan, but that was more because of Silverado, Bull Durham, the Untouchables, and this movie.
My favorite "if you build it, he will come" spoof is from Billy Crystal's Midnight Train to Moscow comedy special. The intro has a scene with him in a cornfield, in jeans and a tee shirt, but the voice he hears whispers "If you go there, take a jacket" and is his cue to travel to the land of his Russian Jewish ancestors and put on a show.
Huh, did not know this was based on a book. It is one of my Dad and I's favorite movies.
Same with my uncle. Literally the only movie that makes him cry
1:28 as a cuban person I have to strongly disagree
Since you sing Supercalifragilisticespialidosus in the credits now I want a Lost in Adaptation episode of the two Mary Poppins movies 😉
I don’t like baseball, but I found this movie touching. There’s something about baseball that makes me nostalgic.
Dom, I think you underestimate how much this movie means in Baseball culture (completely understandable as you are not of our tribe). This movie has spawned a yearly game called the Field of Dreams game in Iowa at a specially built field. Here's some highlights from last year czcams.com/video/0hixXndP7t4/video.html. So it means more to us than some joke references. Keep up the great work. See you on your next video
It’s hilarious to say that baseball only really matters to America.
*cries in Japan*
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Puerto Rico and Cuba are crying as well
never would have thought that reference came from a book about baseball ghosts
Dom I really appreciated your nail varnish this episode
As someone from Iowa who was forced to watch it: I f****** hate field of dreams.
Try being someone who lived in the town it was shot.
@@TheInfamousRoo I live just north of their. They go freaking crazy for that film. Heck, my aunt went on a bus tour to the field even. As someone who can't stand sports, it can be irritating.
@@robertgronewold3326 Yeah. They are obsessed with the movie. I have probably seen it a dozen times due to family.
@@TheInfamousRoo I've seen it quite a few times too. And it's not a bad movie, but it is one of those movies that I'd likely have only watched once.
First comment!
A movie I barely remember watching, about a sport I know almost nothing about and don't really care for. And yet, Dom makes watching this video just as interesting as any other. Thank you Dom
The voice sounding like it comes from a distant sports PA system is actually really cool. If you've ever lived anywhere near a baseball field (or any other facility that uses a similar PA system) you know those announcements can carry a surprising distances, especially across flat fields.