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How you can put NORA that have fully automatc loader and crew are in armor cabin of vhecile!??? Everything is automatc and tehn9logic in sistem for fire is same cvality and maby better then Cesar.. Only that crew mambers load howitzer manuly it's level down in ranking howitzer on vheel chassis where is NORA one of yonger but on top of list. And Alexander MSG-25 will be so good that everyone will forget that Archer even exist any more. For exp. Norwey order big number of Archer howitzer and cansel order whitout any exlpane. PROBUBLY NORWEY DIDN'T HAVE MONEY FOR EXPENSIVE HOWITZER LIKE ARCHER IS, THAT MUST BE REASON!?😂🤣 Ofcorse that isn't real reason to cansel order for Sweden,it's somethig else. Maby it's Archer capebility whit on road's that is not flat like they show at video. Maby it can't operate in area like midlle east,whit loot of desert teren,or somethig else... but it's not price that is very big for howitzer on vheel chassis (I think that is now around 6,5 mil euro per unit). In other side Alexander MSG-25 will be, I hope so in Swiserland military, why not!? Price of Alexander will be around 3-4 mil euro per unit and it's half of price for Archer that have faster seed of fire and nothing more better for dubble price. Cyprus is also very rich country in EU but didn't chose,Atmos, Cezar or Archer,they are not stupid nation and they are in conflict whit Turkey for a long time,so they could not buy somethig that is not most powerfull and perfect wapon that is on market!!!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE ARE YOU MAKING MISTAKE. DID YOU KNOW WHO MAKE MOST POWERFULL,MOST PRECISE,WHIT THE GREATEST RANGE UNGUIDED 122MM ROCKET IN THE WORLD?? I WILL TELL YOU SERBIAN MILITARY FACTORY MAKE THEM. WE GIVE THEM NAME G/2000 (range 41,5km), BUT THAT ISN'T ALL WE HAVE EVEN 122MM THAT IS BETTER-(G-2000/52 whit range of 52km). So do not uderestimate SERBIAN MILITARY FACTORY AND CAPEBILITY NEVER AGAIN....
Romanian here, we have started local production of ATMOS Howiters in collaboration with Elbit Systems, yet it has not been introduced into service with the Romanian Army. However, the romanian Army is currently running a tender for Tracked howiters, which seems it might preffer the South Korean K9 (yet no official winner has been anounced yet). And there are also indications that the Romanian Army might also wish to purchase a Wheeled Howiter in smaller numbers to complement the Tracked Vehicles, and here i think ATMOS, with local production, is the favorite Edit: I did not know about the ATROM, i learned about it from your video... cool !
With more and more sophisticated counter battery technology being available these days, being able to shoot and scoot without having to mess about with a towed artillery piece is a huge advantage.
Thanks your video. Im one of your subscriber from the Philippines. We are so very proud that next year we obtain a one of powerful weapons from Israel.
"Serbia is 152 mm producer, it is question on 155 mm performance?" Just to remind that in the middle of '80 then Yugoslavia, now Serbia, devloped 155mm/L45 solution with some help of Gerald Bull, like conversion for M46 gun. During '80 Yugoslavia upgraded D20 to L39 152mm. Todays Nora B52 is descendant of those works. During the '50 Yugoslavia was producing under licence 155 and 105 mm howitzers. As allready commeted, Kamaz and MAN platforms are offered for Nora. Algeria is now potential buyer. ATMOS and Nora are not in the same class, Nora is on more automated side.
@@joeyanderson6660 USMC is preparing for a fast paced Pacific Island hopping campaign, that's why they're looking for mobile SPH and dropping their Abrams MBT.
من أكبر الاخطاء ان يرتبط تصميم المدفع مع العجلات التي تحمله أو تسحبه إلا في حالة المدفعية ذاتية الحركه التي يكون فيها ارتباط التصميم يومن كفاءة الاستخدام والمناوره كما حصل في(مدافع الصوله الالمانيه) في الحرب العالميه الثانيه٠ شكرا٠٠
Yeah but the personel are fully exposed during firing, and because it's mobile there is the risk of hanging around too long firing rounds with the belief you will have lots of time to run away. fully under armor and tracks is best.
this thing is km's away from you, fires, then is on the move again while you are figuring out where the shells came from. The swedes have a similar sph that can be on the move again after firing 10 shells and before the first one lands
Serbia has newly developed 155mm howitzer based on armored Man truck. The only howitzer better then Serbian is Archer from 🇸🇪 Sweden. But Sweden howitzer cost 3x more.
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How you can put NORA that have fully automatc loader and crew are in armor cabin of vhecile!??? Everything is automatc and tehn9logic in sistem for fire is same cvality and maby better then Cesar.. Only that crew mambers load howitzer manuly it's level down in ranking howitzer on vheel chassis where is NORA one of yonger but on top of list. And Alexander MSG-25 will be so good that everyone will forget that Archer even exist any more. For exp. Norwey order big number of Archer howitzer and cansel order whitout any exlpane. PROBUBLY NORWEY DIDN'T HAVE MONEY FOR EXPENSIVE HOWITZER LIKE ARCHER IS, THAT MUST BE REASON!?😂🤣 Ofcorse that isn't real reason to cansel order for Sweden,it's somethig else. Maby it's Archer capebility whit on road's that is not flat like they show at video. Maby it can't operate in area like midlle east,whit loot of desert teren,or somethig else... but it's not price that is very big for howitzer on vheel chassis (I think that is now around 6,5 mil euro per unit). In other side Alexander MSG-25 will be, I hope so in Swiserland military, why not!? Price of Alexander will be around 3-4 mil euro per unit and it's half of price for Archer that have faster seed of fire and nothing more better for dubble price. Cyprus is also very rich country in EU but didn't chose,Atmos, Cezar or Archer,they are not stupid nation and they are in conflict whit Turkey for a long time,so they could not buy somethig that is not most powerfull and perfect wapon that is on market!!!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE ARE YOU MAKING MISTAKE. DID YOU KNOW WHO MAKE MOST POWERFULL,MOST PRECISE,WHIT THE GREATEST RANGE UNGUIDED 122MM ROCKET IN THE WORLD?? I WILL TELL YOU SERBIAN MILITARY FACTORY MAKE THEM. WE GIVE THEM NAME G/2000 (range 41,5km), BUT THAT ISN'T ALL WE HAVE EVEN 122MM THAT IS BETTER-(G-2000/52 whit range of 52km). So do not uderestimate SERBIAN MILITARY FACTORY AND CAPEBILITY NEVER AGAIN....
Romanian here, we have started local production of ATMOS Howiters in collaboration with Elbit Systems, yet it has not been introduced into service with the Romanian Army. However, the romanian Army is currently running a tender for Tracked howiters, which seems it might preffer the South Korean K9 (yet no official winner has been anounced yet). And there are also indications that the Romanian Army might also wish to purchase a Wheeled Howiter in smaller numbers to complement the Tracked Vehicles, and here i think ATMOS, with local production, is the favorite
Edit: I did not know about the ATROM, i learned about it from your video... cool !
With more and more sophisticated counter battery technology being available these days, being able to shoot and scoot without having to mess about with a towed artillery piece is a huge advantage.
Some of the opponents don't have counter battery technology at all.
Well towed don't break down. Towed can be relayed to next functioning truck
Thanks your video. Im one of your subscriber from the Philippines. We are so very proud that next year we obtain a one of powerful weapons from Israel.
Thank you for your nice comment. Welcome
Very impressed by the breadth of the product-range of the Israeli arms industry.
atmos 2000 was delivered lately for philippine army proud new owners
Nice
Very detailed analysis. Thanks for sharing
"Serbia is 152 mm producer, it is question on 155 mm performance?" Just to remind that in the middle of '80 then Yugoslavia, now Serbia, devloped 155mm/L45 solution with some help of Gerald Bull, like conversion for M46 gun. During '80 Yugoslavia upgraded D20 to L39 152mm. Todays Nora B52 is descendant of those works. During the '50 Yugoslavia was producing under licence 155 and 105 mm howitzers. As allready commeted, Kamaz and MAN platforms are offered for Nora. Algeria is now potential buyer. ATMOS and Nora are not in the same class, Nora is on more automated side.
Fascinating, really hope that it's implementing will come fast. Israel needs to switch already
Thanks for this great vid
Thanks for your nice comment
update to this, the Israeli MoD finally laid out a time table for equipping the army
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Thanks for your nice comment, and welcome
@@WeaponDetective You're welcome
@@WeaponDetective Me too mate, very interesting..... made even better as there was absolutely no signs of anti West propaganda. Good work fella!!!
Even the USMC is now looking into SPH wheeled variant they are now in the process of moving away tracked vehicles also
why? I would think in a battle field tracks would be better (dessert, of road etc)
@@joeyanderson6660 USMC is preparing for a fast paced Pacific Island hopping campaign, that's why they're looking for mobile SPH and dropping their Abrams MBT.
Indian atags can fire a normal shell to 48 km
I’m surprised that Israel would adopt a platform that exposes the crew when in use.
It wasn’t the intention for Israel to adopt this howitzer, it was meant for the export market.
من أكبر الاخطاء ان يرتبط تصميم المدفع مع العجلات التي تحمله أو تسحبه إلا في حالة
المدفعية ذاتية الحركه التي يكون فيها ارتباط التصميم يومن كفاءة الاستخدام والمناوره كما حصل في(مدافع الصوله الالمانيه) في الحرب العالميه الثانيه٠
شكرا٠٠
Philippine army will be having these badboys,.
Serbian NORA is based on Russian Kamaz trucks and there is version whit German MAN trucks.
only truck chassis, not the truck itself
Süper
good video!
I think deploy, shoot and scoot times for these platforms would be nice.
Yeah but the personel are fully exposed during firing, and because it's mobile there is the risk of hanging around too long firing rounds with the belief you will have lots of time to run away. fully under armor and tracks is best.
Why do i have a feeling this will never be put into service just like any other prototype made for the idf?
cheaper? well, they purchase F35 stealth not a cheapest i know...
India will buy this tank
1) Not a tank
2) The Indian government put an import ban on wheeled SPHs now that their "MGS" or mounted gun system is available for testing
Atmos? Dolby's gonna sue your asses! 😆
TATRA ok !!
Attack it from the front as it can’t do direct fire nor does it have crew swerved weapons .
Tis how I’d do it .
this thing is km's away from you, fires, then is on the move again while you are figuring out where the shells came from. The swedes have a similar sph that can be on the move again after firing 10 shells and before the first one lands
its not meant to fight tanks in direct fire.
if it fires at you, its 20-km40km away.
God bless isreal
Love the background IDF music; from the pre homosexual era.
:)) laughed that hard.
If it was from the homosexual era, it would be a 25-minute-long dance track version that tops the charts in over 200 countries!
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Typically Israeli this....... Boom!!!!
¿Y los subtítulos en Inglés?.
el subtítulo ha sido agregado
@@WeaponDetective gracias , cuando lo ví , no estaba todavía la opción , se agradece.
Serbia has newly developed 155mm howitzer based on armored Man truck. The only howitzer better then Serbian is Archer from 🇸🇪 Sweden. But Sweden howitzer cost 3x more.
Many truck-mounted howitzers have yet to find a customer. We are only talking about the vehicles used.
useing it on schooles and hosptials dosnt count as a war proven .it count as a war crime for isreal.
Its called pest control
Stop using hospitals and schools as human shield.
And if u do plz don't cry Islamophobia then🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Yeah not like the UN caught the eternal victims hiding rockets and guns in schools and hospitals or anything.
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