Step-by-Step Guide to IRS Form 8606 - Nondeductible IRA Contributions

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    If an individual makes contributions to a traditional IRA during the year, those contributions are generally tax-deductible. However, in certain circumstances, the deduction may be reduced or eliminated completely.
    If a Taxpayer makes contributions that are not deductible, it is very important that the Taxpayer tracks their basis in the traditional IRA using IRS Form 8606.
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Komentáře • 38

  • @JasonDKnott
    @JasonDKnott  Před 2 lety +5

    For a traditional IRA with a positive basis at retirement, complete Form 8606 to calculate how much of the distribution is subject to taxes.
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  • @lostinmyspace4910
    @lostinmyspace4910 Před rokem +1

    Jason...what a wonderful video on traditional IRAs. My company contributes to a SEP IRA annually, then I do a backdoor conversion into a ROTH IRA, then pay the tax on all that I converted annually. My problem is I never prepared the Form 8606 for all those years. I thought the Forms 5498's notified IRS suffiently along with my investment broker Chas Schwab.. Now I must prepare Forms 8606 for all previous years. Transaction is I receive a SEP in November, and I convert in December all that I recieved in SEP. How do I reflect that on Form 8606??? THUMBS UP for a wonderful informative video. For all you guys and gals listening to Jason's video, son't leave without giving him a THUMBS UP!!! He deserves at least that much!

  • @adambeeman7322
    @adambeeman7322 Před rokem +3

    Wouldn’t contributing after tax dollars to a Roth instead keep things simpler?

  • @donaldmiller9648
    @donaldmiller9648 Před 3 lety +1

    One drawback is can only take the principle that was tax free out as percent of total traditional IRAs. While the principle was after tax you wont recover that for years. But you get tax deferred growth from principle.

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 3 lety

      Agreed. Recover of the principal will take a long time. However, the real benefit is the tax deferral, so most taxpayers are less concerned with the recovery of principal versus what is taxable in the year they draw funds from the IRA.

  • @daver2964
    @daver2964 Před 4 měsíci

    What happens if I have a previous 8606 I forgot about, and now 2022 I file 8606 , basis doesn't include the previous amt.. ? Can I just send 8606 with amended basis.?? Thank you, this was a great explanation.

  • @Team8LA
    @Team8LA Před 4 měsíci

    How does a person know if the amount is deductible or not? Say if I contribute 6500 month to month and hit 6500 saving in June, don't know how much I will make at the end of the year, how I find if all my 6500 is deductible or not? Thank you for the great info as usual :)

  • @daver2964
    @daver2964 Před 4 měsíci

    So how does the IRS let you know what amt of your IRA distribution is being taxed and what amt is nit(8606).

  • @bmp713
    @bmp713 Před 4 měsíci

    I inherited a Roth IRA from my mother in 2022 after she passed in 2021. She held the Roth for well over 5 years between 3 brokerages, but the current brokerage has held it since 2018. They issued a T code for 1099R saying its because my beneficiary Roth is only 2 years old.
    Are there any other requirements besides HER Roth meeting the 5-year holding and my receiving the distribution after her passing for all earnings and contributions to be tax free? Would I need to file an 8606 and if so what would be the basis? The value at the time of her passing? Or are these all qualified distributions and tax free?

  • @She_Tried_It
    @She_Tried_It Před 3 lety +2

    100% of the contributions in my IRA came from post tax dollars. What lines on the form to I complete to say 100% of the funds are not taxable upon withdrawal? $2500.00 for example. Great information in the video, but I was expecting help filling out the form - what goes where. Thanks!

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 2 lety +1

      We have a new video which covers this issue:
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  • @daxadventure
    @daxadventure Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the informative video, does this also mostly apply for a Roth IRA?

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 2 lety +1

      You're welcome! This video covers the nondeductible portions of Traditional IRAs. Roth IRA contributions are not tax deductible on your tax return, because contributions are made with after tax dollars. Traditional IRA contributions may offer a tax deduction, but to the extent they are not tax deductible, you will need to track your basis using this form.

  • @FurTip
    @FurTip Před 3 lety +2

    That was brilliant. I've come across basis a number of times, but no one ever so clearly said that tracking it helps you avoid getting double-taxed. So I get it for the Traditional IRA now. Basis is any amount you've paid taxes on. Does that mean that for a Roth IRA my basis is whatever contributions I have made, since they are all after tax? Do I have to track it the same way, or is that a different form?

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 3 lety +1

      I'm glad you found the video helpful. For Roth IRA contributions, basis is never an issue. If you make any contributions to a Roth IRA, the contributions are always with after-tax dollars, and are never tax deductible on your return. This is why all distributions from a Roth IRA are tax free.

    • @anoyantony143
      @anoyantony143 Před 3 lety

      @@JasonDKnott Due to income limit I am contributing ($6000) directly to Traditional IRA without taking any deductions and converting full $6000 to ROTH IRA. So in this case should I have to consider/worry about the Basis? If so, what should be my traditional and ROTH IRA basis?

  • @klausgersdorf8315
    @klausgersdorf8315 Před rokem

    Converting partial $ from traditional IRA to Roth, do I need to fill out form 8606?
    Never had a Roth before. I am retired.

  • @bryonsview
    @bryonsview Před rokem

    When you reach retirement age and you withdraw from you IRA. Does all basis post tax money get withdraw first then all money that is pre-tax come second. Or do you have to tell your IRA provider "hey withdraw 20,000 of basis" then the the rest RMD as taxable income?

  • @srinip825
    @srinip825 Před rokem

    Hello Jason, excellent video.
    If both husband and wife are covered by 401k and filing jointly, then can both of them contribute 6k each to their respective IRAs without any tax deductions ?. Thanks.

  • @foreignfilmfan
    @foreignfilmfan Před 3 lety

    So because I have a separate employer-sponsored (NOT FUNDED) 403b, my INDIVIDUAL Roth IRA qualified distributions are now taxed? I'm so confused.

  • @SRK-SunDiego
    @SRK-SunDiego Před 3 lety +1

    Good info. I never heard on non deductable IRA.
    I have a question, I contributed max allowed amount to employer 401k in year 2020, still can I contribute 7k to non deductible IRA now?

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 3 lety

      If you're covered by a retirement plan at work, you can still contribute funds to a traditional IRA. The IRS publishes yearly charts which show what amounts of the traditional IRA contribution are deductible given your total income and whether you are covered by a retirement plan offered by your employer.

  • @jcman240
    @jcman240 Před 3 lety +1

    Does the IRS track the 8606 filings? Can you obtain accumulated figures somehow? How would you handle 1099-R income for someone who doesn't know if they have basis, and you don't have any history or knowledge with them? Would you just treat it as taxable? Would the IRS make an adjustment if something was off and 8606 was not reported on subsequent withdrawals?

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 3 lety +1

      If you file a Form 8606 with your tax return each year, the basis is rolled forward on the form each year. So the most recently filed Form 8606 should show the basis. It is always the taxpayer's responsibility to track the basis. For taxpayer's that haven't tracked their basis correctly, they generally have no choice but to report the entire distribution as taxable.

  • @Candaces8484
    @Candaces8484 Před 2 lety

    Good day
    What happens if I am cover with a pension plan but my husband does not. Income $117,000 for tax 2021, what would be the partial amount?
    Also this go on tax return 8606 and Schedule 1?
    Thank you

  • @Titan0801
    @Titan0801 Před 3 lety +1

    if an individual is only employed with a W2 job that offers 401k for January and switched to 1099 job that offers no retirement plan for the remainder of the year, he will still be limited on the deductibility for that one month correct? is there anyway we can take out the non deductible portion of the contribution?? thank you for the info!

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 2 lety

      That is correct. In IRS Publication 590-A, the IRS makes it clear that your deduction is limited if you were covered by an employer retirement plan "at any point" during the tax year. You can still make the traditional IRA contributions, but the deduction may be limited. Most taxpayers explore the Backdoor Roth IRA option. We have a video here: czcams.com/video/uNuXA7nCgyc/video.html

  • @anoyantony143
    @anoyantony143 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello, I have contributed to maximum to Traditional IRA every year without taking deductions and rolled over to ROTH IRA(backdoor entry). My question is whether I will have any basis in Traditional and ROTH IRA? I Need to enter that information in my 8606 form.

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 3 lety

      If you made contributions to a traditional IRA over the years and did not take a deduction on your return, you should have basis in the IRA. However, the IRS requires the filing of Form 8606 each year to adequately track the IRA basis and roll forward the calculation year to year.

    • @anoyantony143
      @anoyantony143 Před 3 lety

      @@JasonDKnott I didn't take deductions and indirectly contributed to ROTH IRA through traditional IRA. If I have basis where it will be, in traditional IRA or ROTH IRA. Because all my funds are in Roth IRA whether I have to bother about the basis?

  • @js4unc11
    @js4unc11 Před 3 lety +1

    I filed my 2019 taxes in February of 2020, and got my tax return. I then decided to contribute $6000 + $6000 to a traditional IRA for the 2019 and 2020 year in April. I quickly did a conversion to roth IRA (doing a backdoor). On this years tax returns, how do I report my 2019 and 2020 contributions plus the 2020 conversion of both amounts. Do I need to do an amendment for my 2019 tax returns if the contributions were non-deductable? I am also using TurboTax, so the forms are quite confusing since they only use a questionnaire format.

    • @ashwinjambhekar8063
      @ashwinjambhekar8063 Před 3 lety

      I did exact same thing and now I am not sure how to handle it in Turbotax. It does not account for those extra 6k which I put towards 2019!
      Any solution you got?

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 3 lety +2

      The IRS instructions stipulate that if you make a nondeductible IRA contribution during the tax year, you must complete IRS Form 8606. You will likely need to amend the returns.

  • @user-jm9ep3zp5g
    @user-jm9ep3zp5g Před 2 lety +1

    there is no info anywhere where to mail the form

    • @JasonDKnott
      @JasonDKnott  Před 2 lety

      The Form 8606 is included with your Form 1040 filing, so you do not separately file the Form 8606.

  • @nancystrazzulla1505
    @nancystrazzulla1505 Před 3 lety

    Is it correct to complete only Part 2 of form 8606? If the answer is yes, please explain part II, line 17.
    All past years' contributions to IRA were deducted on my tax returns. In year 2020 I did the following:
    Contributed the max amount to Roth account; Converted a small amount of IRA to Roth (my first conversion.) I have no retirement plan with employer.

  • @shawnchoi9498
    @shawnchoi9498 Před 3 lety

    If I made an excess contribution in nondeductible traditional IRA, do I include the excess on Line 1 of Form 8606 as well? For example, I contributed $6100 in 2020 as non-deductible contribution to Traditional IRA and I'm deciding to leave $100 excess in the account and pay the 6% penalty. I will need to fill out Form 5329, but do I show $6100 on Form 8606? I plan to carry forward $100 excess to future years once I can apply it 2022. (I already maxed out my 2021 contribution limit so I can't carry it into 2021 either).