For $399 - I don't think you can go wrong with one of these... if they ever come back in stock that is! 💰New to Reverb? Get $10 on Me ➡️ reverb.grsm.io/earn10 🎸New Guitar Day Program: troglysguitarshow.com/help-appraisals/ngd/ 🔴Reverb: reverb.com/item/32993245-1992-gibson-les-paul-custom-plus-flame-top-tobacco-sunburst?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly 🐕 Episode Guide: 0:11 - Epiphone 2020 Original Collection 0:42 - A Great Value? 1:28 - First Impressions 3:42 - Inside Look 10:48 - Tone Demo 13:00 - Final Thoughts 15:33 - Blacklight Test 15:50 - Box 📹 Mentioned Videos: 50s Standard: czcams.com/video/Ocy7-1h8Z6c/video.html TV Yellow Explained: blog.warmoth.com/2016/02/09/tv-yellow-faded-origin-classic-guitar-color/ SG Classic P90 Epiphone: czcams.com/video/fKG_H7As_ic/video.html Monkey SG: czcams.com/video/IQGgiRYgbXU/video.html Epiphone SG Vibrola: czcams.com/video/3YxE0UckHbo/video.html
Hey Trogly, maybe one day you should build and buy a custom Fender made using its own Mod Shop tool. It is kind cool and would be a cool series with the building + the result after a couple of weeks
@@daveyrock6521 Not to me. I have a lot a of expensive guitars, and can buy anything I want. But for the guys that need to buy budget guitars, another $50 is a big deal.
Supporting epi is giving Gibson the license to rip us off. Substandard guitars shouldn't get praise. This isn't the model of craftsmanship or good business. They are intentionally building crap to force over priced guitars on the public that really aren't worth it. I tried to find a LP for 2k and I was willing to go over budget for the right guitar and I couldn't find one with a better finish than my epi. I couldn't find one that had the neck quality or the nut cut, fret finish as my epi. I was beside myself when I was so excited to finally by my first real Gibson. I couldn't do it. The guitars weren't worth 2k.
@@AnimationByDylan I know you commented months ago, but this is demonstrably false. The guitar’s price has not changed. I just checked the epiphone website.
Dan W chibsons are made not by luthiers but by just random people in garages without any quality control, this on is made by nice workers and went through quality control
Trogly, my mom just passed away Sunday and was my world. Your videos and expertise in the guitar world keeps me going. Thank you, Sir Trogly… I’m a Troglodyte to the core.
Aloha Braddah….I am only now watching this video and just wanted to say that I am sorry that you lost your Mom. That was some time ago and I know you were really reflecting back since Mother’s Day recently came and went. Aloha nui loa….
What's wrong with you ? Never tell epiphone to raise the price on any guitar ever. That goes for any guitar company ! No wonder a duosonic costs 2k : (
He didn't literally mean they should be priced higher. I dunno why so many in the comments seem to think that. He's just saying they're great value for money. I mean as if Gibson are gonna take orders from a relatively small CZcamsr, no offense to Trogly cos I love this channel. But yeah big corporations don't make decisions like that based on the titles of CZcams videos
@@duffman18 You're incorrect sir. He specifically stated that the $399 price tag should be raised to at least $499. I don't know how you can be more literal than that.
@@auntjenifer7774 how old are you? Because that's really naive. That's like the little kids who write to big companies or something like that expecting that they'll change anything. Corporations have literally billions tied up in how they structure their pricing, they hire executive CFOs for that. Plus you're talking about general trends among millions of people, which is nothing to do with what I said, you're having a different conversation, talking about a different topic. It's easy to argue against something nobody said. But do you _really_ think they're gonna throw out all of their expensive analysis and and top class executives and their entire marketing and analysis department and just watch a single video by a tiny CZcams channel and go "hey you know what, he's right, let's just throw away those millions of dollars we spent and just follow this guy's advice"? Cos if you do then aww honey, no, that's not how big corporations work, dear. They spend a crazy amount on analysing the market, even at times when they absolutely have no reason to (market analysis departments sometimes invent work for themselves so they can maintain their yearly budget and their jobs, doing busywork). They analyse the market and the Internet and trends as a whole, as you said, but I never mentioned that at all. So really you agree with me, so thank you.
Trogly, I don't know how you do the channel, pack, ship, order, shop; spend time with your family, AND practice. You're getting better with everything I see from B roll to the playing on your demo's. Thanks for the distraction and education, keep at it and THANK YOU.
Shut up Austin, dont be giving them ideas. Considering craftsmanship these days, people deserve lower retail prices. It will trade for more later if it really worth that much. Things will show its value overtime . Man i dont know im just cranky drooling over your videos
Austin advocating higher prices. He has lost touch with the common man. Inflated prices is one reason Gibson is hated. If Fender can put out a $150 Bullet Squier strat, Gibson should have Epiphone doing the same. Enough of this price gouging at the "low" end.
Fatt Philosopher agree with you. Also wish that it would be my last Ch purchase but. He sold 1 anyway. It sounds good and I will love having it in my collection.
I appreciate your videos man, your complete in depth reviews really help me with my purchases. I'm not a great player but I love to collect and do my best to get better. You're a big help on obtaining as close to the real deal for price point as possible.
I was soooooo looking forward to this video, I already ordered mine, seems to me like the perfect sofa guitar, something cheap but sturdy to play every day, and I really liked the sound of the P90's in the demo. As always, great job, I really appreciate how educational is your channel :)
I recently purchased one of these for my son. And it rips! Four four hundred bucks P90 sound great the neck feels great has great tone great stain. Can't beat it for the money
Mine arrived today. It’s fantastic! Plays well out of the box. Action is fine antonation is close enough for me! Sounds brilliant. Tons of sustain and pickups that have real grunt. Tone controls actually work! Not the often found on/off. Love it!!!
So thorough - best guitar reviews out there. Excellent job! I've had this on pre-order for two months. Now I'm even more excited to get it. I agree too - let us see some of that wood grain!
ahh, Daddy Doug..I'm a Hoovie sub...let's all hope no one goes Tyler's way with Guitars..."The stupidest guitar channel on CZcams"..."I just bought the cheapest '59 Gibson LP in the USA" yeah, in splinters....lol
I'd take those P90's over the Probucker set up in my Epi standard Pro. They sound as good as any demo I've heard on here. It's crazy how much guitar you can get for the money these days. The new learners don't realise how good they've got it half the time.
I got both the Junior and the Special as soon as they were listed on Sweetwater. I have to say as much as I love Juniors. The Special is where’s it at for these Epiphones. What a VALUE! Perfect punk and reggae guitar. I hope Epiphone will produce a Double Cut model.
Two of my best guitars. In fact, the two that get played the most: My Epiphone Masterbilt DR-500 MCE and my Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Pro in desert burst. I have far more expensive guitars, but the sound, the tone, the playability and the quality (granted Epiphone can be a bit inconsistent), trumps the others. When you find the right Epiphone, you've found a great guitar.
I absolutely adore mine just the way it came! I’m a super big fan of all of the Epi inspired by line and I have bought at least 7 of 8. I don’t think that by the time the tone of the guitar makes it through the PA and crowd that they can hear or see the very small differences, but they CAN hear and appreciate the sparkle and screaming of these p 90’s and me and my Marshall just love them! I’d like to have the LP Jr too but there’s no reason too I don’t suppose. I’ve written 3 of the songs to come out on my new LP and just in heaven with the high gain on both pickups. I say buy one.., oh and mine came in a very nice Gibson LP case as well!!!
Great Review! As Gibson did with the relaunch of their models under the new ownership, the neck profiles on these new Epiphones are much better. For a while it seemed like everything from Epiphone was a slim taper neck profile. Keep up the good work and continue to make informative yet entertaining videos.
Your videos are great! I really enjoy them. The one thing I wish you did was measure the fret hieght. Automotive style. Like holding down the 11&12 frets together, and using stacked feeler gauges between those frets. Just snug under the string. More 'specs'. What the string height was at the 12th fret would be interesting to. That could just pop up as text for us tech types to enjoy.👍
Thanks for the best reviews ever.😊 I recently bought this wonderful guitar and I'm really happy with it. I only had to file the frets a bit cause they was very sharp and to put a piece of tape on the knobs because were all loose and felling of. The guitar is really beautiful and well built and the sound is marvelous. 🤗☺️
i have the 2020 Gibson version and can’t get used to the neck either. I may sell it because of the neck just too fucking fat. Really bummed cause i want to love it but it’s a struggle to play
Why, oh WHY would you want Epiphone to charge more? These are, in the end, a Chinese made product, and they aren't going to pay the workers more just because they charge more for the guitar. Their workers might be getting paid enough to buy food, but not much more than that. If the company charges more for the product, it's going right in the executives' pockets.
Really? ya'll are dumb. He is not saying they should LITERALLY charge you more for these guitars. He's saying this guitar could easily be sold in a higher price bracket. So the fact that its being sold in this price bracket, is a really great deal.
For real. I think if they were to charge more, a lot of people would just buy the Harley Benton version that's probably built in the same factory, for half the price.
@Eric Kunz Why should the worker get paid more if the company were selling them at a higher price and making more money? Using your logic, when the company is losing money, should the worker get paid less in relationship to how much the company is losing? Earnings are down ten percent so the worker takes a ten percent cut to his own earnings, right? Socialism NEVER works.
Nice review and video! I recently got a N.O.S. Epiphone Ltd. Special SC. They were made between 2011 and 2012 and came stock with ABR-1 style tune-o-matic bridges and Grover tuners. The pickups are what Epiphone called "P-90 Classics" and it seems to not sound much different from this 2020 version. Great guitars for the money. Having owned many guitars over the years, my mind was set on a les paul special-type guitar with plain mahogany body that had a tune-o-matic. Couldn't be happier: simple, easy to set up, affordable and light. Rock on!
Thanks for the nice in depth review. The Epiphone Les Paul Special is, in my opinion, very good value for the money, it’s a shame that they seem to have fret levelling issues at the factory, I’ve seen several reviews of new Epiphones that have fret problems, it’s not the end of the world but you either have to find someone to fix it or do it yourself which doesn’t seem right on a new guitar. I actually quite liked the pickups, minus points for me are the neck shape, fingerboard material and the glossy too thick finish. It’s not a guitar that I’d buy new but might consider a cheap used one just out of curiosity.
I got a Epi LP Special worn Cherry with P-90s for $129 a few years ago and it's one of my favs. It just rips and so comfy. Great grain and great out da box. Love Epi P-90s.
Thank you so much for showing a real Television from the 50's with this paint on it...We had an entire dining room set in T V yellow...plus the TV...Thanks for getting this period CORRECT !!!
This is a competitive, fair price considering the current market. Great product I’m sure, but so many really good to decent guitars near this price point today.
Enjoying your playing. You’re definitely improving since I first started watching you. I have two Epiphones, a 2016 Les Paul Tribute and a Sheraton and I really like them.
I went for the Les Paul Muse in 'Smoked Almond' - basically a Goldtop. It's awesome! Lightweight and looking like a true Les Paul! The fretboard edges are rolled and I've had no issues with putting the action down to the typical Les Paul height. The pickups are nicely responsive and do what I need them to do quite nicely! I've heard mixed things about this particular model. But, any issues can be worked out I'm sure!
and the sg's to the strats? also, do you know when did the Les Paul and the tele first came out? I know (or at least I think so) they're from the early 50's
Hearthshine Music Les Paul was 1952 and tele was late 1950 and it wasn’t called that yet. It was called the Broadcaster but they got sued and named it to telecaster. Early 1950 the fender esquire was their first electric guitar and it was essentially a telecaster with just one pickup and the controls were way different.
Fair point. The P90 is my favorite pickup. I'm primarily a tele player, but I have a Harley benton with p90s in it and the sound is just a bit in both worlds. If the HB weren't half the price with shipping, I'd grab one. I love the finish and how its close to a junior stylistically.
I bought one from a salesperson other than my usual guy at Sweetwater and I asked if it could be plekked and if I could get stainless steel frets and a setup just for fun because a friend of mine bought one and I LOVED it already and I already knew I would be happy with it but I really was surprised that a lady from Gibson in Nashville called me back and asked exactly how I would like it set up and which fret size I preferred. I got Med jumbo SS frets and it is plekked (I hope that spelling is correct, my iPhone marks it red anyway) the intonation is pretty much on, I mean REALLY close and I wanted a case so it came in a Gibson Les Paul case that said Gibson on the outside. I checked the specs out of the box like yours, case came separately, and specs were 3/64 high E and 5/64 low E just as she asked me. The pickups are very articulate at just before breakup on the volume and tone knobs which are very lively and scream or cry with just a touch between 5 and 9.5, 10 is on fire. I couldn’t be happier with the service or price of this guitar. I did pay for plek (Sp) and setup but she put my preferred GHS .009-42 strings on it too which I didn’t have to pay for. I honestly think that the Nashville employee I spoke with was as excited to throw this axe together as I was to get it! I can’t recommend it highly enough, and the Sweetwater experience is always great. I was very surprised to see you do a “Cheap” guitar! This one sure doesn’t feel or sound cheap. I’m recording through an early 90’s AC30, a Deluxe Reverb and a JCM 900 half stack and it’s just awesome. I’m so happy that you thought it was cool too because I respect your opinion so much! Take caaare!
My Epi jr SC has a pickup that needed some 'washers ' to put it higher and it sound .....dead. And it's from the Custom Shop and it is a reissue. Go figure it!...
It’s only budgeted products for beginners and had to make them in China to meet the profits, don’t ever expect detail craftsmanship. When they made Epi in Japan until 90’s ? Those are some real nice guitars, and they still worth a lot in the used market . Btw, I just took these vids as a joke!
@@UCEg7z1wK epiphone have higher build quality than Gibson does these days. Seriously. They're too quality instruments being made in China. So much these days is done with machines that are way more precise than any human making them by hand could ever be. Google "PLEK machine" fr example. They're machines that do a 3D scan of any guitar and then set it up for you, adjusting the action and intonation and the truss rod etc extremely precisely, like fractions of a millemetre precise Asia is the king of guitars these days. Even for the highest quality guitars, you want to go with Asian over American. Indonesia for example makes some of the best quality instruments ever produced. American guitars have a premium added to them before the guitar is even made, and then tend to have way more issues both aesthetic and playability wise. Just watch any of the videos Trogly has made on new Gibson models in the past few years for a boatload of examples. By default if you get a brand new Gibson you'll be getting problems with finish cracking, issues with the binding, issues with the frets and the action, issues with the pickups etc. America has fallen behind. At least with the big companies. The boutique luthiers are probably still the best in the world. But for mass produced guitars (and by mass produced I mean maybe even as low numbers as 200 guitars or something, rather than boutique custom shop stuff) go with Asia. Solar guitars, for example, are maybe the most consistently well made brand of all, and they're all made in Indonesia
@@duffman18 The PLEK machine does all of that for you? From what I have seen, it levels the frets. How does it adjust the truss rod and bridge? What did we do before PLEK machines?
Awesome review! planning to get this guitar this year and also the chord progression you played in the tone demo was definitely Good Riddance by Green Day!
I wouldn't be telling them to raise their prices because let's face it, it's not that this guitar is so cheap, it's that the Gibsons are way over-priced. Remember, when Gibson came out with these models in the 50's it was supposed to be a budget model. A new Gibson LP Special in TV yellow these days is not a cheap, affordable guitar.
There's something rude, nasty, and primal to cranked P-90's that lends itself well to the sound of Rock and Roll better than the more refined PAF humbucker.
The original PAF design had a lower output than the p90s of the time. And so therefore so does modern examples of the vintage PAF like the Dimarzio PAF and the Seymour Duncan Seth Lover. But even ignoring the output, P90s sound both fat and raw at the same time, they're so aggressive when you want them to be, but they're also good at cleaning up and doing a more bluesy strat kinda tone with the right EQ settings They're the most versatile kind of pickup. But yeah metal guitarists are often using teles and strats for recording these days, because those bridge single coils sound so much more raw and angry with high gain than any humbucker, so it's a good idea for example to double track a guitar part, recording once with high output humbuckers, then recording the same part again with a tele, and overdubbing them together to get a more rounded tone. A lot of high output humbuckers are designed to make the sound more "clean". Not the usual meaning of clean. But sort of less surrounding noise and more precise notes that just "djent" very easily, whereas single coils and lower output humbuckers can be very "messy". That's the purpose of active EMG pickups for example, to have that more "clean" type of sound. But obviously to a lot of guitarists that kinda defeats the point, metal is often about being loud and angry and messy. But p90s are probably the "messiest" pickup of all. They're more fat than fender style single coils, more messy and angry and raw, and I love it. They're so loud with the 60 cycle hum and all that but I've never been bothered by that hum of single coils, it's easily removed if you want to do so by using a noise gate, and in a live situation the audience will never hear that hum in the mix anyway. I can't wait to buy this epiphone lp special. Once the pandemic is over, obviously. I don't want to put people at risk by buying one now. So I hope they're still making them in 2021 when the pandemic is over, that this isn't a one year only model. But they've been so enormously popular I doubt they'll stop making them. But yeah I've got a Dean Palomino which has 3 p90s with strat type wiring (so it has those hum cancelling 2 and 4 positions too) and I love the tone, but it's a big old hollowbody guitar and so feedbacks so easily when you turn up the gain, so I really want this epi for that same kind of tone but none of the feedback. Just a big old no nonsense slab of wood with pickups attached. Love it
@jacktheripped it's basically just a p90 shaped like a humbucker so you don't need to route your guitar. But changing the shape of the pickup changes the sound, so it's not quite like a true p90, it's got its own tone. Kind of a p90/humbucker blend. I like it, to be honest, but prefer regular p90s.
I'm a bass player who loves guitars. I have a Strat a Les Paul 2016 50s Standard Faded with Jimmy Wallace PAFs, and an Epi Dove Pro. I always wanted a Special but with three kids at home I can't justify spending Gibby cash. Based on your comprehensive vid and a little research I committed to buying the only Epi Lester Special featured here that my brick and mortar guy has on order. Yup. My name is on it and I have you kind folks to thank. So ... thank you. Please continue the good work.
Gotta check one of these out. Epi seems to be killing it this year! That new headstock looks SO much better too. That’s a nice looking fretboard! Fat neck too? Hell yes! The tone is fantastic as well. P-90’s are never the wrong choice. The finish is hideous though...Seems like you stepped up your playing too there Trogly!
@@jake_of_the_jungle9840 Sorry dude, but my R8 destroys my special. But my ’59 Replica destroys my R8. But my special destroys my ’59. And so, the circle of destruction continues… But really my non Gibson ’59 Replica is the best guitar I own.
It's fascinating that from the QC we seen on the slash a few weeks ago, we see much superior QC on a guitar the fraction of the price. Almost makes you question why you'd bother.
I have one of these too and the qc is excellent. No file marks on the fret ends. Like Trogly, I had to raise the neck pickup and put new 11 gauge strings on it. I also lowered the strings, etc. now it's a great little guitar. Well worth $399.
Back in 2010 Epiphone did a limited run version of the 55-77 in true TV Yellow that I still have. The only differences really are the 55-77 had ABR 1 bridges and stop tail, it shipped with Gibson P90s Grover tuners, real rosewood and a few other things. I paid $599 for it and it's great. It's just a modernised and upgraded 55 Special.
Harley Benton SC and DC Juniors are ~$180 (before shipping) the Epiphone Junior is $380 and the Special is $400 doesn't seem like competitive pricing to me :P
Andertons did a review of this guitar next to the Gibson model along with the Epi and Gibson Jr. The specials are so close in sound that it’s just not worth buying the Gibson unless you just have to have a Gibson. The Jr on the other hand sounds a lot different.
these aren't priced too low - the Juniors are priced too high! would be cool to see you review a Harley Benton DC Junior for comparison's sake (surely not the first viewer to ask lol)
I have the older Epiphone version of this guitar. In terms of differences, mine has the thinner slim taper neck, the standard intonatable stop bar tailpiece, and Grover tuners, no neck binding. I would rate this one similar in quality overall, maybe slightly better pickups, and less preferred neck, tuners and bridge. I honestly do prefer the rosewood fretboard of mine over the Indian Laurel as well.
Love to see you review some PRS SE models. I have a PRS SE Soap bar; it’s quite similar to this in the fit and finish are great and would be a good comparison to see.
What is the cost of manufacture vs the sales cost. Since I have seen off models that look as good, but without Epiphone or Gibson or etc. labeling on the headstock - It looks like it would between $130 - $180. $400 at that point seems steep. China got the manufacturing down on quality though - its the American markup that I am questioning. It looks and sounds like a great player. Trogly rocks!
Chinese made guitars are so high quality for the price these days. Cheap guitars used to mean bad guitars. But these days everything is so precise with machines, and you've got those PLEK machines that do 3D scans of the guitar and then it sets up the guitar way more perfectly than any human could, like down to fractions of a millimetre, setting up the action and the intonation and the truss rod etc. Harley Benton use those machines, it's probably a big part of how they have such good guitars for the price. It costs a good £200 or so to send your guitar to get it set up by a PLEK machine, but harley benton and other Chinese guitar manufacturers use them on every guitar they send out before anyone even buys them, only takes a few minutes for each one so why not Squier are making top quality instruments these days too, they probably have their own PLEK machine. When epiphone and squier are making better guitars than Gibson and Fender are a lot of the time now, you basically are only paying for the name on the headstock these days
duffman18 I’m absolutely blown away at what you get now with cheaper instruments. As you said, when I first started cheap guitars like squire and lower end epiphones where almost garbage and even the medium range fenders and epiphone where just meh.
P90s are pickups that the height is the most important/sensitive topic with. I as a guitar tech I did some wonders only through setting those to the right point. And then adjusting polepieces for mids and voila! I just ordered one of these for myself...
Good day troglodytes!you gotta get an epiphone norm burst in.to show the folks.only had mine for a couple days.but thoroughly enjoying it.the probuckers are what they are.will probably have some gibson pickups installed at some point.but the stocks will be more than adequate for the time bieng. Never could dig the t.v. yellows.but it seems like a decently built guitar.
I've got the 1994 Gibson in wine red - P-100's and a solid piece of old mahogany - full binding on all but body and man is it good. 10 guitars and it's still my #1
A nice guitar, I used to have the Hohner L60 which had bridge and tailpiece, it was probably one of my best Les paul style guitars. I loved the sustain from it
For $399 - I don't think you can go wrong with one of these... if they ever come back in stock that is!
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🐕 Episode Guide:
0:11 - Epiphone 2020
Original Collection
0:42 - A Great Value?
1:28 - First Impressions
3:42 - Inside Look
10:48 - Tone Demo
13:00 - Final Thoughts
15:33 - Blacklight Test
15:50 - Box
📹 Mentioned Videos:
50s Standard: czcams.com/video/Ocy7-1h8Z6c/video.html
TV Yellow Explained: blog.warmoth.com/2016/02/09/tv-yellow-faded-origin-classic-guitar-color/
SG Classic P90 Epiphone: czcams.com/video/fKG_H7As_ic/video.html
Monkey SG: czcams.com/video/IQGgiRYgbXU/video.html
Epiphone SG Vibrola: czcams.com/video/3YxE0UckHbo/video.html
The Trogly's Guitar Show Yeah they get me wet! Great Guitars! Love ‘em! Btw rest a little you’re uploading like crazy but still thank you!
They get the finish right on the $129 special I
The lower the price the better........Case closed.
Hey Trogly, maybe one day you should build and buy a custom Fender made using its own Mod Shop tool. It is kind cool and would be a cool series with the building + the result after a couple of weeks
hey Trogly's would you make a rock or not from the telecaster from evangelion ?
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You got your wish, they just raised the price by $50. Way to go.
That’s really not a lot..
@@daveyrock6521 Not to me. I have a lot a of expensive guitars, and can buy anything I want. But for the guys that need to buy budget guitars, another $50 is a big deal.
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Now it’s $499
Yeah, he's really doing some brown nosing with price word salad. 👎
Definitely a great guitar for the price! However, I gotta say..... Why are you encouraging them to raise prices!?
BD Naval Builds no shit!!
Supporting epi is giving Gibson the license to rip us off. Substandard guitars shouldn't get praise. This isn't the model of craftsmanship or good business. They are intentionally building crap to force over priced guitars on the public that really aren't worth it. I tried to find a LP for 2k and I was willing to go over budget for the right guitar and I couldn't find one with a better finish than my epi. I couldn't find one that had the neck quality or the nut cut, fret finish as my epi. I was beside myself when I was so excited to finally by my first real Gibson. I couldn't do it. The guitars weren't worth 2k.
Because he gets too snippy from time to time.
This made me remove some respect for this channel. He must be independently wealthy!
He should know nobody is as rich him.
Please change the title, they will raise the price
@@AnimationByDylan I know you commented months ago, but this is demonstrably false. The guitar’s price has not changed. I just checked the epiphone website.
499$ rn
I disagree, the prices are exactly where they should be
Absolutely, especially considering they're just an 'official' version of the Chibson (i.e. made in China).😜
Dan W chibsons are made not by luthiers but by just random people in garages without any quality control, this on is made by nice workers and went through quality control
@@danw1955 you know that China can have awesome quality control, don't you?
Yeah he over explained it and kinda advertised it as a huge deal it just looks normal for 400
Agreed. 400$ is right cosidering its a stripped down les paul
Trogly, my mom just passed away Sunday and was my world. Your videos and expertise in the guitar world keeps me going. Thank you, Sir Trogly… I’m a Troglodyte to the core.
As another Troglodyte my heart goes out to you ❤️
Aloha Braddah….I am only now watching this video and just wanted to say that I am sorry that you lost your Mom. That was some time ago and I know you were really reflecting back since Mother’s Day recently came and went. Aloha nui loa….
So sorry for your loss.
I know it’s been a bit but I’m so sorry for your loss. I lost my father a month before my wedding years ago and I think about him everyday.
What's wrong with you ? Never tell epiphone to raise the price on any guitar ever. That goes for any guitar company ! No wonder a duosonic costs 2k : (
True. Not with machines that are used today. Prices should be dropping, if anything, at least for standard models manufactured in masses.
He didn't literally mean they should be priced higher. I dunno why so many in the comments seem to think that. He's just saying they're great value for money. I mean as if Gibson are gonna take orders from a relatively small CZcamsr, no offense to Trogly cos I love this channel. But yeah big corporations don't make decisions like that based on the titles of CZcams videos
@@duffman18 You're incorrect sir. He specifically stated that the $399 price tag should be raised to at least $499. I don't know how you can be more literal than that.
@@auntjenifer7774 how old are you? Because that's really naive. That's like the little kids who write to big companies or something like that expecting that they'll change anything. Corporations have literally billions tied up in how they structure their pricing, they hire executive CFOs for that. Plus you're talking about general trends among millions of people, which is nothing to do with what I said, you're having a different conversation, talking about a different topic. It's easy to argue against something nobody said. But do you _really_ think they're gonna throw out all of their expensive analysis and and top class executives and their entire marketing and analysis department and just watch a single video by a tiny CZcams channel and go "hey you know what, he's right, let's just throw away those millions of dollars we spent and just follow this guy's advice"? Cos if you do then aww honey, no, that's not how big corporations work, dear. They spend a crazy amount on analysing the market, even at times when they absolutely have no reason to (market analysis departments sometimes invent work for themselves so they can maintain their yearly budget and their jobs, doing busywork). They analyse the market and the Internet and trends as a whole, as you said, but I never mentioned that at all. So really you agree with me, so thank you.
what duo sonics cost 2k? the most expensive duo sonics that fender currently makes is $679.99
Trogly, I don't know how you do the channel, pack, ship, order, shop; spend time with your family, AND practice. You're getting better with everything I see from B roll to the playing on your demo's. Thanks for the distraction and education, keep at it and THANK YOU.
Shut up Austin, dont be giving them ideas. Considering craftsmanship these days, people deserve lower retail prices. It will trade for more later if it really worth that much. Things will show its value overtime . Man i dont know im just cranky drooling over your videos
Austin advocating higher prices. He has lost touch with the common man. Inflated prices is one reason Gibson is hated. If Fender can put out a $150 Bullet Squier strat, Gibson should have Epiphone doing the same. Enough of this price gouging at the "low" end.
Fatt Philosopher agree with you. Also wish that it would be my last Ch purchase but. He sold 1 anyway. It sounds good and I will love having it in my collection.
This is the review i was waiting for! I’ve been holding off and buying it until I saw your review
I appreciate your videos man, your complete in depth reviews really help me with my purchases. I'm not a great player but I love to collect and do my best to get better. You're a big help on obtaining as close to the real deal for price point as possible.
I was soooooo looking forward to this video, I already ordered mine, seems to me like the perfect sofa guitar, something cheap but sturdy to play every day, and I really liked the sound of the P90's in the demo. As always, great job, I really appreciate how educational is your channel :)
I recently purchased one of these for my son. And it rips! Four four hundred bucks P90 sound great the neck feels great has great tone great stain. Can't beat it for the money
Got mine right when they came out and I love it. It's one of my go to guitars right now.
Me too, I got one of the first ones (in Europe) and I use it every day. It is fantastic!
Mine arrived today. It’s fantastic! Plays well out of the box. Action is fine antonation is close enough for me! Sounds brilliant. Tons of sustain and pickups that have real grunt. Tone controls actually work! Not the often found on/off. Love it!!!
So thorough - best guitar reviews out there. Excellent job! I've had this on pre-order for two months. Now I'm even more excited to get it. I agree too - let us see some of that wood grain!
“THIS... is an Epiphone Les Paul Special”
RettFFA I can hear Doug In my head haha
Austin, Doug & Tyler the everyday heroes of mine!
Trogly's the Doug of guitars
RettFFA omg
ahh, Daddy Doug..I'm a Hoovie sub...let's all hope no one goes Tyler's way with Guitars..."The stupidest guitar channel on CZcams"..."I just bought the cheapest '59 Gibson LP in the USA" yeah, in splinters....lol
I'd take those P90's over the Probucker set up in my Epi standard Pro. They sound as good as any demo I've heard on here. It's crazy how much guitar you can get for the money these days. The new learners don't realise how good they've got it half the time.
I have been eyeing the standard pro. Are you serious?
Any chance you could walk through how to measure pickups output? (Equipment required and steps.)
Yeah man holy shit.When I was learning "affordable" guitars were virtually unplayable.
You talked me into it...pre-ordered a P-90 Special yesterday from Sweetwater! Can't wait! Thanks for the review
Loved your cover of sweet emotion in the demo! Trying to learn that song right now, great video!
I got both the Junior and the Special as soon as they were listed on Sweetwater. I have to say as much as I love Juniors. The Special is where’s it at for these Epiphones. What a VALUE! Perfect punk and reggae guitar. I hope Epiphone will produce a Double Cut model.
Two of my best guitars. In fact, the two that get played the most: My Epiphone Masterbilt DR-500 MCE and my Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Pro in desert burst. I have far more expensive guitars, but the sound, the tone, the playability and the quality (granted Epiphone can be a bit inconsistent), trumps the others. When you find the right Epiphone, you've found a great guitar.
You're killing me Trogly! I placed my order in February and I'm still waiting! I need a new guitar toy for my quarantine jams.
I love how in depth you go in the reviews
I don’t know about you, but I’d really like to see a P90 goldtop
You’re getting your wish- check out JJN’s sig
I absolutely adore mine just the way it came! I’m a super big fan of all of the Epi inspired by line and I have bought at least 7 of 8. I don’t think that by the time the tone of the guitar makes it through the PA and crowd that they can hear or see the very small differences, but they CAN hear and appreciate the sparkle and screaming of these p 90’s and me and my Marshall just love them! I’d like to have the LP Jr too but there’s no reason too I don’t suppose.
I’ve written 3 of the songs to come out on my new LP and just in heaven with the high gain on both pickups. I say buy one.., oh and mine came in a very nice Gibson LP case as well!!!
Great Review! As Gibson did with the relaunch of their models under the new ownership, the neck profiles on these new Epiphones are much better. For a while it seemed like everything from Epiphone was a slim taper neck profile. Keep up the good work and continue to make informative yet entertaining videos.
Your videos are great! I really enjoy them. The one thing I wish you did was measure the fret hieght. Automotive style. Like holding down the 11&12 frets together, and using stacked feeler gauges between those frets. Just snug under the string. More 'specs'.
What the string height was at the 12th fret would be interesting to.
That could just pop up as text for us tech types to enjoy.👍
10:48 Man, that chord progression was something unpredictable...
I hope you had the time of your life
But, in the end, it was right
Jack P ...homie needs to go to the woodshed for serendipity instead of standing in front of a camera
I got my first ever lp. Epiphone classic 2020. Quality and sound is amazing. I love it. So cheap too.
Man, that middle clean tone was perfect.
Thanks for the best reviews ever.😊 I recently bought this wonderful guitar and I'm really happy with it. I only had to file the frets a bit cause they was very sharp and to put a piece of tape on the knobs because were all loose and felling of. The guitar is really beautiful and well built and the sound is marvelous. 🤗☺️
I have the 2019 Gibson version, still haven't gotten used to the chunky neck, but love the sound of the p90s. Very cool looking guitars, though.
i have the 2020 Gibson version and can’t get used to the neck either. I may sell it because of the neck just too fucking fat. Really bummed cause i want to love it but it’s a struggle to play
Why, oh WHY would you want Epiphone to charge more? These are, in the end, a Chinese made product, and they aren't going to pay the workers more just because they charge more for the guitar. Their workers might be getting paid enough to buy food, but not much more than that. If the company charges more for the product, it's going right in the executives' pockets.
Really? ya'll are dumb. He is not saying they should LITERALLY charge you more for these guitars. He's saying this guitar could easily be sold in a higher price bracket. So the fact that its being sold in this price bracket, is a really great deal.
For real. I think if they were to charge more, a lot of people would just buy the Harley Benton version that's probably built in the same factory, for half the price.
It’s not like It’s any different in an American factory, but maybe that wasn’t your point?
@Eric Kunz Why should the worker get paid more if the company were selling them at a higher price and making more money? Using your logic, when the company is losing money, should the worker get paid less in relationship to how much the company is losing? Earnings are down ten percent so the worker takes a ten percent cut to his own earnings, right? Socialism NEVER works.
@@colonelschwatz6941 what on earth are you on about? That's not what socialism is...
Go read a book
Nice review and video! I recently got a N.O.S. Epiphone Ltd. Special SC. They were made between 2011 and 2012 and came stock with ABR-1 style tune-o-matic bridges and Grover tuners. The pickups are what Epiphone called "P-90 Classics" and it seems to not sound much different from this 2020 version. Great guitars for the money. Having owned many guitars over the years, my mind was set on a les paul special-type guitar with plain mahogany body that had a tune-o-matic. Couldn't be happier: simple, easy to set up, affordable and light. Rock on!
Cracking guitar and great value , this will become a collectable , you could happily gig with this. Another great review Austin
Absolutely love that colour!!!!
When money is a little bit better, my wife has given her blessing for me getting this guitar that will be dubbed "Colonel Mustard."
Always like your videos! You do a wonderful job Trog... Thank you so much!
Wow, I absolutely love this video. All my questions were answered. thank you so much!
Thanks for the nice in depth review. The Epiphone Les Paul Special is, in my opinion, very good value for the money, it’s a shame that they seem to have fret levelling issues at the factory, I’ve seen several reviews of new Epiphones that have fret problems, it’s not the end of the world but you either have to find someone to fix it or do it yourself which doesn’t seem right on a new guitar. I actually quite liked the pickups, minus points for me are the neck shape, fingerboard material and the glossy too thick finish. It’s not a guitar that I’d buy new but might consider a cheap used one just out of curiosity.
I agree ive had to do extensive fret leveling on many an epiphone not difficult bu can be time consuming! This guitar does sound really awesome!
ah yes, the one no one ever has in stock.
as of today I found one
Same here in Germany from thomann...
I got a Epi LP Special worn Cherry with P-90s for $129 a few years ago and it's one of my favs. It just rips and so comfy. Great grain and great out da box. Love Epi P-90s.
I have a 2014 and it’s easily my favorite guitar
Thank you so much for showing a real Television from the 50's with this paint on it...We had an entire dining room set in T V yellow...plus the TV...Thanks for getting this period CORRECT !!!
This is a competitive, fair price considering the current market. Great product I’m sure, but so many really good to decent guitars near this price point today.
Enjoying your playing. You’re definitely improving since I first started watching you. I have two Epiphones, a 2016 Les Paul Tribute and a Sheraton and I really like them.
Great video Austin, definitely considering buying one of these
I went for the Les Paul Muse in 'Smoked Almond' - basically a Goldtop. It's awesome! Lightweight and looking like a true Les Paul! The fretboard edges are rolled and I've had no issues with putting the action down to the typical Les Paul height. The pickups are nicely responsive and do what I need them to do quite nicely! I've heard mixed things about this particular model. But, any issues can be worked out I'm sure!
Looks amazing
The lower the price the better........
Trots my man. Your playin' is really getting good.
You had a PRS the o the day KEEP IT. You have earned it.
My favorite playing demo in weeks 😍. It really sounds great when you hit the overdrive.
I already have 3 excellent guitars with P90s but man this is tempting.
I own a 68 SG Special, and I’m sitting here contemplating buying this thing 😂😂
I’ve always thought of these as Gibson’s answer to the telecaster.
and the sg's to the strats?
also, do you know when did the Les Paul and the tele first came out? I know (or at least I think so) they're from the early 50's
I thought that when he said the middle position was choice
Hearthshine Music not too sure. I know the telecaster deluxe was meant to convert les Paul users over to fender
Hearthshine Music Les Paul was 1952 and tele was late 1950 and it wasn’t called that yet. It was called the Broadcaster but they got sued and named it to telecaster. Early 1950 the fender esquire was their first electric guitar and it was essentially a telecaster with just one pickup and the controls were way different.
Fair point. The P90 is my favorite pickup. I'm primarily a tele player, but I have a Harley benton with p90s in it and the sound is just a bit in both worlds. If the HB weren't half the price with shipping, I'd grab one. I love the finish and how its close to a junior stylistically.
The Moderne I just bought the neck is really nice & no fret issues & has a beautiful pau ferro fretboard
I bought one from a salesperson other than my usual guy at Sweetwater and I asked if it could be plekked and if I could get stainless steel frets and a setup just for fun because a friend of mine bought one and I LOVED it already and I already knew I would be happy with it but I really was surprised that a lady from Gibson in Nashville called me back and asked exactly how I would like it set up and which fret size I preferred. I got Med jumbo SS frets and it is plekked (I hope that spelling is correct, my iPhone marks it red anyway) the intonation is pretty much on, I mean REALLY close and I wanted a case so it came in a Gibson Les Paul case that said Gibson on the outside. I checked the specs out of the box like yours, case came separately, and specs were 3/64 high E and 5/64 low E just as she asked me. The pickups are very articulate at just before breakup on the volume and tone knobs which are very lively and scream or cry with just a touch between 5 and 9.5, 10 is on fire. I couldn’t be happier with the service or price of this guitar. I did pay for plek (Sp) and setup but she put my preferred GHS .009-42 strings on it too which I didn’t have to pay for. I honestly think that the Nashville employee I spoke with was as excited to throw this axe together as I was to get it! I can’t recommend it highly enough, and the Sweetwater experience is always great. I was very surprised to see you do a “Cheap” guitar! This one sure doesn’t feel or sound cheap. I’m recording through an early 90’s AC30, a Deluxe Reverb and a JCM 900 half stack and it’s just awesome. I’m so happy that you thought it was cool too because I respect your opinion so much! Take caaare!
P90s tend to sound consistently fantastic despite price range. I'm definitely tempted to pick one of these bad boys up.
My Epi jr SC has a pickup that needed some 'washers ' to put it higher and it sound .....dead.
And it's from the Custom Shop and it is a reissue.
Go figure it!...
You should. It's a very nice guitar and the p90s are great. I'm glad I got one as I like it a lot more than the Strat I've had for 25 years.
That headstock is great looking. It reminds me of the 60's/70's Epiphone headstocks
I think that's what they were going for
It’s only budgeted products for beginners and had to make them in China to meet the profits, don’t ever expect detail craftsmanship.
When they made Epi in Japan until 90’s ? Those are some real nice guitars,
and they still worth a lot in the used market .
Btw, I just took these vids as a joke!
Tony Winsfield you shouldn’t. Trogly isn’t joking.
@@UCEg7z1wK epiphone have higher build quality than Gibson does these days. Seriously. They're too quality instruments being made in China. So much these days is done with machines that are way more precise than any human making them by hand could ever be. Google "PLEK machine" fr example. They're machines that do a 3D scan of any guitar and then set it up for you, adjusting the action and intonation and the truss rod etc extremely precisely, like fractions of a millemetre precise
Asia is the king of guitars these days. Even for the highest quality guitars, you want to go with Asian over American. Indonesia for example makes some of the best quality instruments ever produced. American guitars have a premium added to them before the guitar is even made, and then tend to have way more issues both aesthetic and playability wise. Just watch any of the videos Trogly has made on new Gibson models in the past few years for a boatload of examples. By default if you get a brand new Gibson you'll be getting problems with finish cracking, issues with the binding, issues with the frets and the action, issues with the pickups etc. America has fallen behind. At least with the big companies. The boutique luthiers are probably still the best in the world. But for mass produced guitars (and by mass produced I mean maybe even as low numbers as 200 guitars or something, rather than boutique custom shop stuff) go with Asia. Solar guitars, for example, are maybe the most consistently well made brand of all, and they're all made in Indonesia
@@duffman18 The PLEK machine does all of that for you? From what I have seen, it levels the frets. How does it adjust the truss rod and bridge? What did we do before PLEK machines?
Awesome review! planning to get this guitar this year and also the chord progression you played in the tone demo was definitely Good Riddance by Green Day!
Ahhh!! I’ve been waiting for this!!!
I would go for these in a heartbeat, if Epiphone eventually would release them as lefty versions. C'mon Epiphone do it!!!!
I wouldn't be telling them to raise their prices because let's face it, it's not that this guitar is so cheap, it's that the Gibsons are way over-priced. Remember, when Gibson came out with these models in the 50's it was supposed to be a budget model. A new Gibson LP Special in TV yellow these days is not a cheap, affordable guitar.
Very informative vid...have never been an "offshore guitar guy" but this makes a compelling argument. Cheers
This whole epiphone lineup is really impressing me (Q/A issues aside), but I'm r e a l l y excited to see that Firebird Review!
Firebirds will rise, just as the Phoenix did ...
Please review the Gibson 2020 version!
There's something rude, nasty, and primal to cranked P-90's that lends itself well to the sound of Rock and Roll better than the more refined PAF humbucker.
Listen to it on gibson tv epiphone giveway. One of the days its the guitar played
Exactly. All three of my Les Paul's have P90s for this reason. Well, one has P94s, but close enough.
Yeah ,, I get one in my hands and I kick off Mississippi Queen!
The original PAF design had a lower output than the p90s of the time. And so therefore so does modern examples of the vintage PAF like the Dimarzio PAF and the Seymour Duncan Seth Lover. But even ignoring the output, P90s sound both fat and raw at the same time, they're so aggressive when you want them to be, but they're also good at cleaning up and doing a more bluesy strat kinda tone with the right EQ settings
They're the most versatile kind of pickup. But yeah metal guitarists are often using teles and strats for recording these days, because those bridge single coils sound so much more raw and angry with high gain than any humbucker, so it's a good idea for example to double track a guitar part, recording once with high output humbuckers, then recording the same part again with a tele, and overdubbing them together to get a more rounded tone. A lot of high output humbuckers are designed to make the sound more "clean". Not the usual meaning of clean. But sort of less surrounding noise and more precise notes that just "djent" very easily, whereas single coils and lower output humbuckers can be very "messy". That's the purpose of active EMG pickups for example, to have that more "clean" type of sound. But obviously to a lot of guitarists that kinda defeats the point, metal is often about being loud and angry and messy.
But p90s are probably the "messiest" pickup of all. They're more fat than fender style single coils, more messy and angry and raw, and I love it. They're so loud with the 60 cycle hum and all that but I've never been bothered by that hum of single coils, it's easily removed if you want to do so by using a noise gate, and in a live situation the audience will never hear that hum in the mix anyway.
I can't wait to buy this epiphone lp special. Once the pandemic is over, obviously. I don't want to put people at risk by buying one now. So I hope they're still making them in 2021 when the pandemic is over, that this isn't a one year only model. But they've been so enormously popular I doubt they'll stop making them. But yeah I've got a Dean Palomino which has 3 p90s with strat type wiring (so it has those hum cancelling 2 and 4 positions too) and I love the tone, but it's a big old hollowbody guitar and so feedbacks so easily when you turn up the gain, so I really want this epi for that same kind of tone but none of the feedback. Just a big old no nonsense slab of wood with pickups attached. Love it
@jacktheripped it's basically just a p90 shaped like a humbucker so you don't need to route your guitar. But changing the shape of the pickup changes the sound, so it's not quite like a true p90, it's got its own tone. Kind of a p90/humbucker blend. I like it, to be honest, but prefer regular p90s.
I'm a bass player who loves guitars. I have a Strat a Les Paul 2016 50s Standard Faded with Jimmy Wallace PAFs, and an Epi Dove Pro. I always wanted a Special but with three kids at home I can't justify spending Gibby cash. Based on your comprehensive vid and a little research I committed to buying the only Epi Lester Special featured here that my brick and mortar guy has on order. Yup. My name is on it and I have you kind folks to thank. So ... thank you. Please continue the good work.
Love your reviews, purchased this model from Sweetwater in February! Still waiting………
They're almost impossible to get or I'd have one...lol
An inexpensive version of the best guitar ever made, can't beat that!
when Sweet Emotion was played.....that's it, this is a good guitar for the money!
Gotta check one of these out. Epi seems to be killing it this year! That new headstock looks SO much better too. That’s a nice looking fretboard! Fat neck too? Hell yes! The tone is fantastic as well. P-90’s are never the wrong choice. The finish is hideous though...Seems like you stepped up your playing too there Trogly!
That last demo lick was sweet😎
If they let you see the grain, you'd see the 5 pieces they used to make the body.....lols
I bet the 17-piece 'Mahogany' Chipboard looks great with dried egg yolk smeared over it ... ! 🤣
Yeah...
Still probably plays better than a Gibson
@@jake_of_the_jungle9840 Sorry dude, but my R8 destroys my special. But my ’59 Replica destroys my R8. But my special destroys my ’59. And so, the circle of destruction continues…
But really my non Gibson ’59 Replica is the best guitar I own.
@@jonv5489 Who was the builder?
It's fascinating that from the QC we seen on the slash a few weeks ago, we see much superior QC on a guitar the fraction of the price. Almost makes you question why you'd bother.
I have one of these too and the qc is excellent. No file marks on the fret ends. Like Trogly, I had to raise the neck pickup and put new 11 gauge strings on it. I also lowered the strings, etc. now it's a great little guitar. Well worth $399.
Sounded great. And terrific playing. ⭐️⭐️
Back in 2010 Epiphone did a limited run version of the 55-77 in true TV Yellow that I still have. The only differences really are the 55-77 had ABR 1 bridges and stop tail, it shipped with Gibson P90s Grover tuners, real rosewood and a few other things. I paid $599 for it and it's great. It's just a modernised and upgraded 55 Special.
You have a lot of nerve saying these "are priced to low". Some nerve dude.
SongMaker 67 , he actually said they "are priced too low".
I feel like Epiphone is trying to compete with the Harley Bentons of the world by putting it at that price point.
Pauly Poobrain but not as cheap as harleys
Shannon+Kyle not 100% true. Harley Benton has some models in the $350 range.
Pauly Poobrain oh really? I need to check those out! Thanks!
and Failing
Harley Benton SC and DC Juniors are ~$180 (before shipping)
the Epiphone Junior is $380 and the Special is $400
doesn't seem like competitive pricing to me :P
Great episode! Digging this Special for sure, I need a P-90 guitar!
Your playing is getting much better! Congrats!
Andertons did a review of this guitar next to the Gibson model along with the Epi and Gibson Jr. The specials are so close in sound that it’s just not worth buying the Gibson unless you just have to have a Gibson. The Jr on the other hand sounds a lot different.
The sound, but also the finish. Nitro guitars feel wonderful as the age. Poly guitars feel like plastic toys.
Yeah. Epiphone likes to drown their guitars in lacquer. And that's coming from someone who _likes_ lacquered necks.
these aren't priced too low - the Juniors are priced too high!
would be cool to see you review a Harley Benton DC Junior for comparison's sake (surely not the first viewer to ask lol)
Awesome review bro, I am def buying this axe and you gained a subscriber
Keep up the great work
I have the older Epiphone version of this guitar. In terms of differences, mine has the thinner slim taper neck, the standard intonatable stop bar tailpiece, and Grover tuners, no neck binding. I would rate this one similar in quality overall, maybe slightly better pickups, and less preferred neck, tuners and bridge. I honestly do prefer the rosewood fretboard of mine over the Indian Laurel as well.
I am a simple man. I see a new Trogly video, I click.
that's why you're a simple man
Oi! Dont be tellin epiphone to raise the price!! Hard enough saving for a new guitar as it is.
I looked at the highlight you put in the thumbnail and thought, at first, it had binding 😂
Love to see you review some PRS SE models. I have a PRS SE Soap bar; it’s quite similar to this in the fit and finish are great and would be a good comparison to see.
hey man they have to compete with the knock offs so the i think the price is spot on
What is the cost of manufacture vs the sales cost. Since I have seen off models that look as good, but without Epiphone or Gibson or etc. labeling on the headstock - It looks like it would between $130 - $180. $400 at that point seems steep. China got the manufacturing down on quality though - its the American markup that I am questioning. It looks and sounds like a great player. Trogly rocks!
Chinese made guitars are so high quality for the price these days. Cheap guitars used to mean bad guitars. But these days everything is so precise with machines, and you've got those PLEK machines that do 3D scans of the guitar and then it sets up the guitar way more perfectly than any human could, like down to fractions of a millimetre, setting up the action and the intonation and the truss rod etc. Harley Benton use those machines, it's probably a big part of how they have such good guitars for the price. It costs a good £200 or so to send your guitar to get it set up by a PLEK machine, but harley benton and other Chinese guitar manufacturers use them on every guitar they send out before anyone even buys them, only takes a few minutes for each one so why not
Squier are making top quality instruments these days too, they probably have their own PLEK machine. When epiphone and squier are making better guitars than Gibson and Fender are a lot of the time now, you basically are only paying for the name on the headstock these days
duffman18 I’m absolutely blown away at what you get now with cheaper instruments. As you said, when I first started cheap guitars like squire and lower end epiphones where almost garbage and even the medium range fenders and epiphone where just meh.
Editing and presentation is so clean nowa days my dood.
P90s are pickups that the height is the most important/sensitive topic with. I as a guitar tech I did some wonders only through setting those to the right point. And then adjusting polepieces for mids and voila!
I just ordered one of these for myself...
Raise the prices are you crazy 🤪 SHHHHHHHHHH
Good day troglodytes!you gotta get an epiphone norm burst in.to show the folks.only had mine for a couple days.but thoroughly enjoying it.the probuckers are what they are.will probably have some gibson pickups installed at some point.but the stocks will be more than adequate for the time bieng.
Never could dig the t.v. yellows.but it seems like a decently built guitar.
I've got the 1994 Gibson in wine red - P-100's and a solid piece of old mahogany - full binding on all but body and man is it good. 10 guitars and it's still my #1
A nice guitar, I used to have the Hohner L60 which had bridge and tailpiece, it was probably one of my best Les paul style guitars. I loved the sustain from it
No! don't tell them to raise their prices ! when these prices are converted to Australian $ they get really expensive really quickly :(
Yeah my favorite show Austin you sound a little like Gilligan
Only Mr Howell can afford a real Gibson!
i didn’t have a chance to plug them in but i liked the way this one played over the epi 50’s standard.
Even better than how it looks, it SOUNDS great. I'm impressed.