Should Christians Listen to Secular Music? Doja Cat, Megan the Stallion & Justin Bieber
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0:00 Intro
0:46 What Does the Bible Say?
1:08 The Good
2:35 The Bad
3:43 The Rationalizer
4:53 Can Some "Secular" Music be Good?
6:33 What Do We Do with the "Grey Area"?
7:38 Outro
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I'm a musician and I study psychology and I can 1000% confirm that music imfluences your thought and emotions that will dictate your actions. Being careful to what we listen to, like the Bible instructs us to, is imperative.
Which kind of music should we listen to?
@@anne-mp5cy some kind of healing music. Lots of sick music for sick people out there. And it's pretty mainstream too.
Ask yourself this; if I listen to this kind of music, will I get closer to the Lord or lean into wordly desires?
@@janjansen7983 Yes, it’s about the direction the music is pushing you towards.
This is why I only listen to synthwave. Its all music, no lyrics. See my playlist M.
@@janjansen7983 Yes! It doesn’t have to be overtly Christian. A secular song about how the writer wants to treat his girlfriend right and uplift her is wonderful to listen to.
Kelly Clarkson has a song about how her then-husband showed her love where her father failed her. Although she and her husband have since divorced, we Christians could still listen to that song with the perspective of, “I have a blueprint on how to uphold the love described in this song even though the writer did not.” No need to be the SNL church ladies about our music selection 😂
people really have to admit, what you watch and listen to DOES play a huge role in your life.
I noticed when I started listening to these wordly trashy songs, I started to grow far away from God. i started looking and feeling like the world again.
a movie, show, song or even a celebrity can be the issue. learn to limit yourself and ask God for discernment! 💕
Depends on who you’re talking too, a lot kids my age believe that no one and nothing effects them other than themselves and that what you listen too/watch doesn’t affect you. I’m still growing out of this thought process myself but once I looked back I put too and too together. Hope people realize this soon please pray for my generation 😥
@@Glyphic1972 hey Sky, 23 here and I’m truly concerned for our younger generation too, including mine. When I go on Pinterest and leave some gospel pointing comments on some posts. (Where I was in my youth before Christ, letting many pins influence me on some things like homosexuality and waywardness in gen. Or too deep in my sorrow and depression where I thought it was beautiful and happiness is an illusion. Kinda nihilistic). But Sky, given you know your demographic best, what can we do? To help out our young gen? Cos Im scared too and they don’t like to listen… what’s up with our youth?
@@zy8753 I would say if we are trying to get the gospel to them become their friend and help them truly understand what love and kindness is, and that being liked isn’t everything lust isn’t love and stuff like that kindly, then once their more open to things because they understand it better slowly try and move them into more Christian crowds and introduce them to Jesus at the same time, of course each person will be different and you will have to watch out for people pleasures. But I would say that would have to be the formula with how things are now, also just show them how evil stuff they support is. Of course always pray for them because that might be the only thing that will work, I know so many kids who think they know God and believe In him but don’t know him, it makes me so sad.. I would also say if you have kids keep them off the internet and manage their friends, try to keep their more involved with God then with others teach them how to know God not just how to do the routine. But that’s all I really have..God is still helping me and changing me and I’m so grateful for it, God is the only one that can change people so that’s the real key here. God bless :)
@@Glyphic1972 Hey Sky, God has opened your eyes, I’m part of same generation, so I’ll definitely be praying.
@@Glyphic1972 hey don't feel bad and trust it's the 60s the 70s 80s ect... we all have had this binding thought also!! But God is so good!!!I will definitely pray and please pray for us too. The older generation acts like we are more arrived than this new generation but where did they derive from. ... God bless you!!! I'm not afraid I'm just glad God is giving us wisdom to see the truth!!!
To be honest, I believe there are more concerns about the current state of Christian music today than secular music.
I say that not because secular music is harmless, I completely agree with this video on how disgusting so much of it is. Christians should definitely have nothing to do with the darkness that is so much of the secular music industry.
My greater concern is with Christian music because the bad, even heretical, theology so many popular Christian songs contain cannot be dismissed.
Secular music that is sexual and profane and makes no claim to honour God and that is performed by artists who do not care about God, that type of music is quite overtly something that Christians should avoid.
However, much of the most popular Christian songs today are either vain, mindless repetition or they actually include lyrics that are blasphemous.
How can a Christian listen to or sing such songs about even God Himself, with the claim that they are worship songs? It is not worshipping God to sing things that are untrue about Him.
And when we consider the most popular Christian artists today, like Hillsong and Jesus Culture, we need to look at where they come from.
Churches like Hillsong, Bethel (Redding) and Elevation have used their music to spread their dangerous theology into churches that would otherwise never consider some of the claims they make.
Spiritually speaking, I am gravely concerned for the false light that exists in the Christian music arena today. So many people have been truly deceived by it.
The current news (which isn’t really new) around Hillsong is just one example.
Music is powerful. It draws us in. It plays with our emotions. Emotion can be good, but we cannot let it lead us.
There are a number of Christian songs I could love for their emotion and melody, the way they make me feel. But, their theology is so far off I know that it does not glorify God. They should not even be called Christian in the first place.
I hope that more and more Christians can also warn about the serious, spiritual dangers of so-called Christian music. It’s so very important, because we claim that it is a form of worship.
right many of the modern worship songs focus on the person singing moree than God Himself. Or self esteem boosts etc.
This is beautifully brought out. I totally agree with you. God bless you🤗🤗🤗
@@scubatastic but we do know through Christ we gain confidence it’s not bad to get self esteem boosts for example the song “I am no longer a slave to sin” that’s Thanking God for freeing us and it also gives us confidence as we know sin has no power over us anymore
Yeah I see your point but seccular music has way more deeper concerns considering many Christian’s listen to secular music and it’s been normalized the aspect of some Christian’s songs being wrong can only be realized when they also realize seccular music is bad you see what I mean ?
Cause we can’t be bopping to songs that glorify sin but then condemn some Christian songs
Not saying your calling secular music good but I do know that secular music is a very large concern as the seccular music industry is one of if not the most influential industry on this earth
@@Loctician, I definitely did not call secular music good; you can read my comment again to see what I wrote. Although it’s worth noting that not all secular music is the same.
Understanding that there are major problems with so-called Christian music can be done, and, I would argue must be done as a priority. We can do this as a separate issue from secular music.
I would suggest that it’s actually important that Christians get their own house in order. It seems rather disingenuous to condemn secular music, however correct our statements may be, but not deal with issues within the professing church.
And I would emphasize that heretical, blasphemous music being claimed as worship of God is far more dangerous, spiritually speaking, than secular music that is overtly evil. The reason is because this pseudo-Christian music is false light and deception. It can creep in and catch us unaware if we don’t remain vigilant and contend for the truth.
Bands like Hillsong, Jesus Culture and Elevation have introduced their music to the church at large, in many countries, and their music has been a gateway to many false teachings. On the surface it seems good, but it is not.
Unlike with secular music, Christian music is supposed to be a form of worship. This is why it’s absolutely dangerous and we must be aware of what is truly happening spiritually.
I used to know every word to most of Megan’s songs but, about two years ago I started to be convicted whenever I listened to those provocative songs. I had to cut all of it out of my life. I still like some secular music but, anything that is vulgar is a no go.
This!
I agree. Any music that is vulgar is not for me. I personally prefer listening to Christian music because there are a lot of really good Christian artists. I listen to a lot of Christian rap and Christian hard rock and their lyrics are good and as far as talent, I could argue that they are just as good, if not better, than a lot of secular artists.
SPREAD THE GOSPEL JESUS DIED FOR US JESUS IS COMING BACK SO REPENT AND SPREAD THE WORD OF GOD
Amen!!!!
AMEN GLORY TO GOD
Why did He die for us? Why is He coming back? Why do you write in all caps? So many questions...
@@NivBetsalel he died for us so that we can have a better relationship with God.
2. I write in caps to make sure now people see this important comment
@@NivBetsalel he is coming back to judge his people on judgememt day
Even if the music doesn't have sexual lyrics, or explicit words, if the song is vapid or vain, and holds no substance, then it is not worthy. If they use blasphemy ("Oh my ___") it's also a red flag. I have been struggling lately, after cutting it out I have been falling back into watching K-pop. They are called "idols" and it's so obvious what the agenda is.
But again, even if the music isn't sexual or has explicit language, it might not be good for you. Read the lyrics and ask God to help give discernment. I also ask God to please give me strength to reject that which does not help me grow. And I hope this is food for thought for someone else.
Well put :-)
If "you" have doubt, don't listen i would say...
Spot on👏
Even the K-pop artists are starting to have bad words in their songs.
@@HannahSCHAITELFunTIME like for example: jungkook's new song called "Seven" there's a part that said "I'll be f***ING you right" we as young Christians need to be aware of songs,movies, videogames what you're seeing, listening
Just pray for ask God for discernment
I love listening to songs that help me memorize the word. Like the songs Psalm 23 and Psalm 42 by Shane & Shane. They don’t read the psalms perfectly in order but they help me memorize and get the idea behind it.
Try the corner room, word for word psalms sung from the ESV
COMPLETELY agree. hubby and i purchased the 2 cds PSALMS 2 and HYMS, SPIRITUALS and that is exactly what i told my mom
@@TLICMusic thank you so much! never heard of them but they are wonderful...we are always looking fdor ones like this so=ince we stopped CCM a few years back
Trilogy Scripture Songs, Sounds Like Reign, and Esther Mui are also good choices.
Music has a huge impact on me. Since Ive come to Christ I’ve had to be very very conscious on what I allow myself to listen to in regards to music. I was always drawn to really sad music and even one song like that can have me spiralling out of control. Music of course impacts us.
Yup
I am the saMe way 😅
As a teenage musician who loves making his own pieces during his free time. I truly understand the power and influence music can have on someone.
When it comes to non-Christian music, I stink to oldies like Elvis Presley, Johnny Cash, Fats Domino, classics like them. Elvis’s gospel music especially sticks out to me, it isn’t boring, like some Christian music tends to be. Some recommendations for anyone who cares are “How Great Thou Art” “You’ll Never Walk Alone” and “Peace in the Valley.” Secular music simply makes me uncomfortable to listen to if it had vulgar lyrics or messages. Every time I listen to a song, I ask myself, would I be comfortable with Jesus listening to this with me? If not, I can do away with it.
Yes yes yes! Theologically speaking I tend to condense it down to three attributes: is it good, is it true, and is it beautiful? For example I won't listen to a lot of modern rap, but I could listen to some of Bob Dylan's songs all day. The same goes with film, books, and even video games.
Did you know that Natalie Grant recently did a cover of one of his songs?
I have playlists. I use Spotify. So I can listen to the music I want and there is also sometimes suggestions on other similar music. I do listen to secular music and Christian music. But I try to avoid bad word ones and sexual lyrics.
Here’s the thing. I’ve found that the deeper my intimate relationship with Christ goes, the more hyper sexualized secular pop music *_repulses_* me. It’s not even that I chose not to listen to it anymore, I just listened to it and I _cringed._ Its so desperate, so garish, so in-your-face, it’s not _pleasing to the soul_ when the soul knows the peace and righteousness of Christ.
Praise God for you man! This has been on my mind 24/7 of late. You really cleared it up! Thank you
I love this!
A Kendrick Lamar Album called “To Pimp A Butterfly” Got me saved and got me closer to Christ. It showed me to love myself and that I love myself because God loved me first which helped me love my neighbor because during the time I was in depression and suicidal. With this, I was listening to a lot of secular music and took a time to stop listening to that overall. I got into Christian Hip-hop and other Christian music. With this, it helped me to influence what I listen to. Now I can listen to some “secular” songs like Kendrick, J. Cole, and 2 PAC and get their message and knowing the history of Hip-hop and wont be affected and influencing me in sin. I usually only listen to CHH, but now when I listen to secular, God has help me not influence my life because he is m influencer. Thank you for this video my friend! Great content
@💓A.M but if you church, are you not listening to someone preaching the gospel??
@💓A.M how will they be saved without knowing the good news?? Everyone has different ways to Jesus. I grew up in the church, but I gave my life to Christ after listening to that album and want better for my life and my neighbors. My friend had questions on Jesus and we went to a bar and he asked all the questions and a month later gave his life to Christ. It’s a seed, I am a sports ministry director and I use sports to plant seeds to ppl about the gospel. Music is the same way and God can use ANYTHING to give ppl to them
@💓A.M you can’t just preach the gospel to someone and they will just decided to choose Jesus. Sometimes you got to speak their language and how about someone is a hip hop head. You can tell the gospel through hip hop. And you don’t know that person past, maybe they are church hurt and ruin that. That’s what I’m saying, you can tell ppl about the gospel and good news of Christ with ANYTHING
@💓A.M yes, it’s call life. People will reject, but that mean you haven’t read Matthew 13 about the seeds. Some will fall in bad soil and those are the ones that will reject but some will hear the word and grow, which will be good soil. So using other things like music or sport to spread the gospel will help people. People will reject the gospel like they reject Jesus, but we need to continue to grow and spread the gospel mam
@💓A.M if people reject Jesus, I promise they will reject us talking about it but that is why we must continue to have our foundation and keep spreading the gospel!
Thank you for this video. Discernment is always key
Wow. This is so timely. Just yesterday, I chanced upon the songs I used to listen to before I became a Christian. I tried listening to the songs but was convicted by the Holy Spirit. It led me to asking, "does the music I listen to really a big deal even though they are not profane in nature?". And today, I saw this video.
Indeed, we should be more discerning with the songs or media at large that we expose ourselves into. Let's always ask if those even glorify the Lord.
Listening to music is one of my favorite past-times. I greatly appreciate amazing vocals and creative melodies that artists make, as well as the people spending their entire lives mastering an instrument.
Although there are some really solid Christian artists I love listening to, when it comes to 'secular' music, I lean to stuff without lyrics like Synthwave melodies or the good old Classics.
I made a podcast to do try and tackle this exact topic (and related subjects) and, in 8 minutes, you summarized more than I could in multiple episodes. Spot on! Great job!!
This video's editing was really good (of course the message too)
Loved this , beautifully put together
Be careful what Enter-tains you always. Great message Brother Issac. Lots of love from East Tennessee 💜
I'm glad you did a video on this. I've been thinking about this. Everybody has different convictions through the Holy Spirit as they grow with Christ. I definitely don't listen to as much secular music as I used to, but for example I still love Phil Collins in the air tonight (live version). I'm careful though because sometimes you have to be mindful of the song's meaning,not just the lyrics.
I know Daily Disciple has mentioned The Gray Havens before but they also have a podcast about the latest songs on their album. Really interesting to learn about what inspired each song and that is what an artist does. They spread the light of Jesus through different concepts and ideas. Great video dude!
isaac pleaseee make us a playlist
It'll be nice if Isaac could make a playlist of songs that inspire him :)
Thank you for this. Isaac. Often times I feel like secular music can be good, but it matters what’s in the song itself as for the lyrics. I also find that a melody or beat can be incredibly catchy or addictive, and yet the singer can justify his or her writing into something almost like a trend that makes people follow along in their footsteps. When I listen to favorite secular songs, I don’t tend to do what the artist is singing or rapping about, but I do like secular. Although I do listen to Christian music, I do like The Gray Havens and Kings Kaleidoscope as my favorite artists to listen to if I’m in the mood to listen to them. I find their music to be comforting and catchy, and a lot of their music really is. Often times, I feel like The Gray Havens’ music and messages are folky and Indie which I love, because I find that music relaxing whenever I’m by myself. It’s still Christian, but they do have secular themes in their songs as well. They do talk about colors, birds, kingdoms, castles, etc. They also covered ‘Blackbird’ by The Beatles and ‘Pure Imagination’ by Gene Wilder. But It still intrigues me that Christian artists like them sometimes don’t sound Christian. Example: they may sound secular genre wise and lyrical wise, but that’s normal. And although I do appreciate Christian music, I do think that they both have talent. I’m also finding that Christian Indie Pop artists are also extremely talented and worth listening to, like Jonathan Allen Wright. It’s definitely a joy to listen to new artists that can pave the way for new listeners. I have tremendous respect for all of them.
Thank you for talking about secular and Christian music. We need to pay attention to what we listen to.
I like old Mexican mariachi music / Latino bolero .. the lyrics are always so cute ❤️
I used to listen to some questionable music in my youth... And as I grew through my years I found myself pulling away from the music I used to listen to. There's some really good song artists and they are completely unknown which breaks my heart. Henrik is a young, newer Christian artist and his stuff is really good but he doesn't get seen in the Christian community because of the style.
I've searched for Henrik because of this comment so thank you for that. 👍✝️🙏❤️
@@faithwithphoebe9156 so awesome! His song, "Real love" was played on repeat for months for me! ❤ It was needed during some really tough times.
I love Henrik soo much🤍🤍he raps but his songs feel more like worship ngl😂❤️
Very good cutaways brother 👏🏾
I really needed this, GOD Bless!
I appreciate your nuanced and graceful approach. Some scripture comes to mind when thinking about this:
1 Corinthians 6:12, 1 Corinthians 10:23--all things are permissible, but not necessarily expedient or edifying.
Also, Romans 14. Its about holidays and food, but I think the principle is relevant--if you're convicted by it, don't do it because it's not of faith. If you're not convicted by it, don't be a stumbling block to your brothers and sisters who are.
Personally, my music "diet" has been strict, especially because I know how easy it is for me to get into the feelings and emotions of it. So I just try to stick to praise and worship and even my consumption of that is regulated (like you said, there's good and bad Christian music lol)
I loved your explanation on non explicit secular music
Yepp!!
At 38 I can certainly say yes but you need to be certain of the content. If it’s promoting anything against God and His commands, it probably has to go. If the Holy Spirit tells you to stop listening. Stop. I have my favorites from when I was a teenager, some from my 20’s, and now 30’s. Drastically different but it’s what God convicts us of.
This is a great argument to make.
I’m a musician. The problem I run into often with Christian music is that it is musically very boring. I get that the point is for the lyrics to shine through, but I can’t stand listening to poorly composed music on a consistent basis.
I don't like dropping a one-size-fits-all approach to this. Christians need to be careful about what they listen to, but just because music isn't "Christian" doesn't mean it should be avoided at all costs. There's a lot of good tame non-Christian music out there. But there's also a lot of gross music out there as well.
Right? TobyMac is fantastic is one I can think of that is truly a musician. His lyrics are great and the layers are incredible musically, but he’s a rarity in Christian music.
listen to hillsong young & free
I love to see videos like these
So are we gonna get a music playlist from you soon??👀thank you for the encouragement🙏
Great video. I just found your channel and was wondering if this would be to progressive but I completely agree with your stance on this.
Thank you Isaac for this video!
Having not watched/listened the video yet:
It depends on what it is. There's no one-size fits all answer. You could even argue some so-called "Christian" music may not actually be. On the other hand, there's some secular music that isn't all that bad either. You can't just take a one-size fits all answer to this.
On the other hand, there's a lot of extremely obvious garbage in secular music, too, that should be avoided at all costs. Other things may be more on the fringe and you don't notice it as much unless you listen really close to the lyrics.
What about instrumental music?
This is why I listen almost exclusively to country music (in addition to Christian music, of course). 99% of country songs that I've heard have nearly zero references to sexual immortality. I would especially recommend Randy Travis and Johnny Cash.
"Hyperbolic"-you got it.
Shout out to some Indy!
Music helps to shape what stays on the mind, how we see the world, and even our worldview if we are not guarded.
Regular check-ins suggested here with a "where I'm at" heart-wise self-examination especially, but also emotionally and even stress-wise, regarding the influence of this specific input we are welcoming or passively permitting that frequently subtly shifts our frame of mind from one minute to the next.
Red flags on each person's spiritual sensitivity to music and lyrics (outside of blatantly sinful lyrics we should obviously not give room for in the first place) are: a major drop-off in prayer, Bible reading, or hikes in pride issues.
Bottom line for me looks something like: assume responsibility for myself and my own closeness with Jesus over my commitment to a certain misplaced loyalty concerning any artist/music scene/genre/fill-in-the-blank. Each of us will stand before God, alone, and give an account. Best to make sure we take that seriously. We are meant to be salt and light, we are meant to be set apart, we are meant to be in not of this world and all it's "cool with", and that distinction should show.
Regardless of whatever is dictated as good or bad, I can at least rest easy knowing that I will still be able to listen to the Last Stand by Sabaton.
I thank the Lord for helping me find your content. I have recently rededicated my life and self to Christ. Your content helps so much!
God’s so funny, I was just thinking about this earlier today
There’s some beautiful “secular” music I can clearly hear God using…even made by non Christians
God works through everyone…including non believers
“Unless I the Lord build the home, the builders build in vain”
Also Acts 17:28
Paul was speaking to non believing Greeks
Yet clearly states God is working in and through them
As long as your conscience is clear and you continue to use discernment, you can listen to “secular” music
Johnny Cash has some bangers you don’t wanna miss out on
Great take Isaac! Blessings brother
i agrée, as long as that secular music isn’t filled with cuss words and sexual content
@💓A.M which part of this do you disagree with?
Do you not believe God works through everyone and just believers?
@💓A.M seems like someone is shutting themselves off to the world
Citizen soldier is one secular band that I really enjoy. They're sort of like Shinedown and how they have a song for everyone, they're about spreading love and community. Every song can be someone's story. I myself listen to relatable music especially when I'm going through a rough time, and as much as I don't like a lot of country music I am a country boy and I listen to relatable songs of that genre. I have 4 bands I turn to the most, 2 of them being Christian and 2 of them not. I also really like heavy music so I like a lot of demon hunter, theocracy and other heavy Christian bands but some are just Christian in name so I'm careful about the artists I listen to. We don't want to listen to a wolf in sheep's clothing.
My favourite Christian songs/hymns include, Amazing Grace, How Great Thou Art, In Christ Alone.
There are some secular songs that over the years that I have heard and I like them.
Does that make me some kind of superficial believer?
The Sound of Silence.
To Sir, With Love .
Fake Woke .
The theme music to the film The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
Oh. I'm such a heathen! I even like Dancing in the Rain.
I’ve been thinking of doing a cover of “My Glorious” in the style of, like, Lizzy McAlpine or Phoebe Bridgers, two non-Christians.
You can mesh good sounding styles with worship! 😁
You might wanna listen to John Michael-Howell
@@gRIZZieStudios I will! Do you have a song suggestion for me to start with? One you think is particularly good? Thanks!
It's all about your discernment..if you feel uncomfortable..turn it off...if not I'd at the very least limit it
Fantastic analysis, bless you
Because of my experience with worldly music and creating idols from musicians I strictly only listen to christian music now because music is also a huge influence in my life cause of how much I love music.
I agree with this. I stopped listening to almost all secular music about a year ago. It’s damaging to your brain and spirit. My intimacy with God was damaged, as well as the intimacy in my friendships and relationship. I was also just playing the same songs over… no purpose to it, no glory in it.
I love that intro 😂 and this video
I agree, I think listening to praises of God is important for our soul, and at the same time I also exercise caution when I want to listen to, for example Lofi music or instrument to relax or focus. Even jazz sometimes is great but it can become a bad influence. It’s all about allow the Holy Spirit to lead us! :)
Check out Johnathan ogeden - 24 and Psalm 91 Also rivers and robots. These both from u.k. and of course Lovkn. These artists are my favourite at mo. High quality and holy. God bless everyone ✝️❤️🙏
But what if I dont like Doja cay but I like her songs? I dont like Paint the Town red but Ive heard clips of her other new songs. So what cant I do?
Jason upton is really annointed worship music
I highly recommend kings kaleidoscope if anyone is looking for a good christian band.
This is why when it comes to non-gospel music I was like the older music because it’s not like the horrible music today. Michael Jackson Prince Alicia Keys Ashanti Earth wind and fire Stevie Wonder and many other artists who appreciated music and lyrics no swearing no sex just about fun music dance life love family justice social issues equality 💖💖
There was a testimony where someone went to hell and saw Michael jackson and he told the person to tell people on earth to stop listening to his music. Hollywood celebrities make deals with the devil, literally. and just because a song sounds friendly doesnt mean there isnt backmasking
So true
But didn’t Michael Jackson pact with the devil? His song monster has a dark message behind it from what I’ve seen on some articles so I’m not really sure all older artist really have “good”music
@@dm-bw2qw no it’s very sad that you think that I’m not sure where you got that from Michael himself was a Christian and that’s why he died early because you don’t see other celebrities who outwardly worship the devil and do horrible things deal with that stuff. The world supports those type of people. The thing is Michael was framed and betrayed by many people who only one of his money he gave away so much and received a little in return.
@@dm-bw2qw yeah you must be talking about a different story because it definitely wasn’t Michael Michael was a very good person so many people hated him because he was different just like when Jesus says his children weren’t meant to fit in. He openly think Jesus every single moment he could and he was extremely humble today people won’t even allow you to mention Jesus on an award show
I struggle with listening to so many worldly rappers and Idk why I just keep finding it catchy but I know it’s wrong. I just need to stop but something just keeps pulling me in and I feel like I just can’t stop. I know it’s possible but it’s hard for me, plz pray for me...
i have a friend. she almost exclusively listens to explicit music, watches explicit shows, and has expressed that she wants bad influences in her life to make it more "interesting." she is Christian, we are going through a Christian homeschool program together, she led a devotion for class one morning, she has attended Bible study retreats, etc. But im really concerned that the faith she has is nominal. in more private settings, she acts different, expresses different views that are not of God, doesnt go to church/doesnt have the desire to go to church, etc. Ive tried talking with her about her music choices (she gets REALLY upset if our friend group says anything negative about doja cat, she calls herself a "stan") and about her very open (non-biblical) view on abortion, but every time I do she gets uncomfortable, highly defensive, and says something along the lines of her not being "as Christian" as the rest of us and for me to just leave her alone. I don't know what to do anymore. Im very careful about not allowing her to be an influence on me, but I love her so dearly, and am really concerned. So I guess what I'm asking for is prayer, and advice if anyone has it to offer.
I'm extremely sorry for what you're going through, just keep praying okay?
Rightly said. Music that clearly edifies wrong or negative things should be avoided. For the music that comes under the grey area we have to discern each for ourselves what effect it's having on us. For e.g. kpop. This genre mostly doesn't have explicit content in the lyrics nor in the videos. Still there is mounting danger here. Fans of kpop get addicted to it, I think it has a lot to do with the singers. They're literally called idols, so that's a red flag right there. In earlier yrs kpop was more about the music which was fine. In recent yrs kpop has become more about the idols who sing, dance & perform the songs. If you'll look at the comments made by a lot of kpop fans, they're more about the idols. Comments like "so handsome/pretty, so hot, so $exy, he/she makes me feel this that, he/she could slap me, walk over me & I'll thank them, he/she is my world, my life, my everything, I can't live without him/her" etc. These are the heartfelt comments from fans & many of them are kids & teenagers. It's sick, how they've been affected. More like how they let the idols affect them like this. The fans justify it saying these groups make music with positive, uplifting, healing lyrics & they sing about important stuff, they save people. It's just an excuse to continue their addiction to the idol. There are fans who watch these idols for hours together every day. They cant go a day without seeing them, thinking about them, talking about them. So many parents & families are worried seeing the trance that these fans are in. This is a big culprit in leading people away from from God. These fans base their sanity & solace & strength on these idols. Word of God clearly says 'Cursed is the one who trusts in flesh'. These souls are in danger but they don't want to hear it. One can enjoy the 'good safe songs' without getting attached to the singers. Attaching ourselves to the singers is something we shouldn't do in any case whether it is Christian music or secular music. All our love & life & the throne of our hearts must belong only to the Lord. Hope this issue is touched upon as well someday by someone.
I remember discovering a band called Nightwish and I listened to there song “Endless forms most Beautiful” and my immediate thought was “Louie Giglio would enjoy this.”
My music choices has definitely changed as I have grown in spirit and truth. The conviction felt from listening to my pre-faith is real. As has the revelation gained from artists who do it for the art.
Movie Soundtrack scores are an excellent example. No lyrics, but it might be done by a secular composer or in a worldly movie.
Interstellar, Gladiator, Braveheart, The Last Samurai. Beautiful compositions.
Lecrae, Phanatic and Lauren Daigle are the flipside to that coin.
Just cause someone says Jesus, while others make music in worldly movies; both can be examples of folks who worked entirely hard to make.
Now I cant be the one to say or discern which was inspired by love for the Lord or touched by the hand of the Accuser.
I will say music is powerful. It does go to the soul.
personally i have always been careful of the kinds of music i consume .'
Currently have a few bands that are secular , but i have always loved rock music and rap(mainly Nf and DAX) i say just ask God for discernment regarding what you are thinking about.❤️❤️
When I was in college a young lady introduced me to Megan the Stallion and I did not realize how it messed with me. It wasn’t until God really pulled on me to turn back to him that I stopped listening to her music. The other thing is some music that people out out just to make it on a Christian playlist and it’s junk or the theology is wayyyy off.
I feel like for those who are really saved secular music isn’t the issue the issue is really. The music that are suppose to worship or CCM a while back there was a Artist I listened to her music then she ended up coming out and she made so called Christian music.
This has got to be one of the Oldest Longest Tired Debates that rages on throughout history so I'm gonna make a Disclaimer warning for the following as I've had this Debate heaps of times by both other Christians & non-Christians alike: The Following Comment will Offend some of you!
My Simple reply to this video & indeed the topic at hand is this: Music is Music its what you do with it that counts
As an Artist, Singer/Songwriter/Musician Ive had so many people try to tell me what I should or should not do & this is one of the most frustrating things to have to endure both from the artist point of view, as a fans point of view & the Industry point of view, let alone the Christian perspective, All of us are Made in the Image of God, he Creates therefore we create following the model of creation, its unfortunate that as time has gone on the World has gone away from the God of the Bible & as a result things are getting worse in this Sin sick filled world following the Religion of Self (if I can use the expression)
From an Artist point of View we create Music often as an expression of how we are feeling &/or telling a story what the recipient does with what we create is out of our hands, now does that mean that we should be creating content that is Destructive to the recipient deliberately without any consequences? No thats not what Im saying at all! but we should be careful of what we allow the recipient to be exposed to (side note: Ive written heaps of songs that are very personal to me but would never allow the public to hear) same can be said about the Positive aspect of Content we release often what 1 person perceives as positive may potentially be negative to someone else
From the Christians Perspective I do agree we should try to be Mindful of what we allow ourselves to be exposed to Bad is Bad there is no getting around that but just as there have been THOUSANDS of Hymns written which are extremely bad Theologically, There are also THOUSANDS of Good songs which are secular in nature that are here nor there, sometimes we write songs to express how we feel & it may be about an emotional situation we have gone through & because we have gone through it that May help someone else cope, we have written about our experiences that someone else is going through the same thing, How many songs have been written about the topic of Love? just to make a point, Ive often Said that songwriters are the Voice to those who have no voice, often people are not good at articulating their feelings toward a person about their emotions or how they feel about a particular topic so they use a song they heard that captured the essence of what they were feeling at the time to express to another person by means of Communication in song form, sometimes you could write a song about Politics or something silly like a comedy song or maybe songs for children perhaps the possibilities are Endless!
At the end of the Day we are all accountable to the Lord Jesus Christ about everything we do, say, think & act, I believe there is Nothing wrong with creating content even if it is secular in nature so long as it is not with the deliberate intentions to harm or allow harm come to someone else, after all Art is expressed in many different forms & often an Artist creation will at times be misunderstood or misinterpreted to the recipient (I always try to be very clear in all my presentations of what it is so that there is no misunderstanding of the content being presented) Sure the idea of promoting Sin in any way just to sell a product is a very poor excuse to be selling art & Im in no way condoning this should be the approach but as I said at the start from an Artist Point of View Music is Music & its what you do with it that counts I stand by my comment, I know what the Bible teaches & am always constantly learning - I hope this comment has helped someone understand that this is not always a black & white issue we are all allowed to have differing point of view on this issue - use your own Discernment & align yourself with what the Bible teaches, God Bless folks
Mostly bullshit. Long winded and tainted with the usual "christian" dogma. "christians" are always saying "we" or "us" on an hubristic assumption that the "christian" god is relevant to the entirety of humanity.
@@rf7477 why do you think that?
@@tekbluesome8957 I will try to give you some clarification. You clearly said "at the end of the day we are all accountable to the lord". Says who? Your god is not a given. That is a common "christian" presumption. I am not accountable to your god. Please speak for yourself.
@@rf7477 No I speak what the Bible clearly Teaches All of Humanity is ultimately accountable to their Creator & if your name is not written in the Lambs Book of Life you will not inherit the kingdom of God & the only other option is Hell for those who reject the Saviour
@@tekbluesome8957 Same thing. The bible was written by men. Angry old thwarted men who wanted to torment people. The OT was almost certainly written by jewish scholars as crowd control of unruly Israelite tribesmen. The NT was written by people who wanted to support a jewish dissident and then claimed him as a messiah.
All you have done is repeat the same fallacy, that your invisible, and quite nasty god must be accepted by everyone.
I will guess that your dreadful religion has lied to you that heaven is more important than Earth. Your religious beliefs are only of consequence to people like you but clearly you want to inflict them on everybody. Please speak for yourself.
Paul talks a lot about the theme of faith in one’s heart in the book of Romans and that each person should aligned with the will of God Romans 14:17 the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating or drinking but righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. And if we doubt in our minds that it is not aligned with the will of God (which we can check with the Bible and through prayer) we should not do it Romans 14:23 - what is not of faith is sin. I think having personal conviction and seeking understanding from God first and foremost is most important. But the company we keep, the images and ideas we surround ourselves with become what we believe. Including music.
One Christian artist I would highly recommend is Michael Card. His music is a bit old-fashioned, but it is theologically rich and of high quality. My personal favorite of his albums is Unveiled Hope.
Old fashioned so when people actually had talent
Such a fresh perspective
What about video game music that has no lyrics? That's the majority of what I listen to. It's kinda hard to judge a song based on the morality of the lyrics when there is no lyrics to judge.(EX: Two planets approach the roach limit, the entire Kirby's dreamland 3 OST, mario music.)
I don't care for many secular songs. When I get to pick music, I enjoy hymns or oldies.
By oldies, I mean Elvis or songs like Yakety Yak or Hit The Road Jack.
Some of my favorite hymns are I Sing The Mighty Power of God, Leaning on the Everlasting Arms, Revive Us Again, Jesus Christ Is Risen Today, Lift High The Cross, Let Us Break Bread Together, Come Christians Join To Sing, etc.
Some of my favorite Christian songs are: He Reigns, I Am Free, Born Again, Phenomenon, Gotta Go, etc.
Just in case any one wants recommendations. :)
I don't know most of the " artist" named but I do know who Meg the Stallion is and there is no way our ears should be listening to such lyrics!
Her music is good she’s won multiple Grammys and she’s just the best and also I believe she’s Christian too as she made a song called crying in the car listen to it
@@jonathanfaulkner7424 Multiple Grammys really doesn't mean "good". And as a Christian, which means Christ-follower, why would you make music that throws the Lord's teachings in the waste bin?
Such music awakens wanton sexual desires and lust, and that is not something the Lord promotes.
@@DiogoChris its fine music for entertainment i like and many other hotties do too and i will continue to listen too it too
@@jonathanfaulkner7424 This is very faulty logic for any Christian.
Like Martin Luther King once said, "I suggest you take the Jesus you serve more seriously."
A word is enough for the wise
Christians can listen to secular music, after all many secular songs are about love anyway.
However, like the computer programmers say, GIGO, or garbage in, garbage out.
We do need to be careful what we put into our soul.
Yes! 👌🏻
First comment. Also, love your content man, keep it up!
Bro beat me by 44 seconds
Haha I was typing as fast as I could😂
Please pray for me.
I've been really struggling to find what I should listen to and what not to.
I was raised with the doctrine that all rock/contemporary music is sinful and not pleasing to God, because it's chaotic and not orderly like what all the other creations of God reflect.
I'm now an adult and still can't find in the Bible where I could state certain music played by a certain instrument or arrangement is sinful, so I'm at a loss.
What I am convinced of is that sexually explicit songs and musical sounds associated with or that imply sexual acts are subjectively wrong. However, I can't really say contemporary music is wrong.
What makes me unsure still, is that I can't worship in church to drums or electronic guitar music for some reason. I'll go to a friend's church that plays loud rock music and I can't focus to worship God.
I know I have a preference of music, but I want to know if it's more than just a preference and not God leading me to the music He approves of and not others.
I personally love classy music like jazz, 40s and 50s songs, but also like some of today's. I just don't know what of today's music is acceptable and what's not.
O COME , LET US SING UNTO THE LORD : LET US MAKE A JOYFUL NOISE TO THE ROCK OF OUR SALVATION . PSALM 95 : 1 KJV
Amen brother. 🙏
Some people have also tried dictating which genres are acceptable. I do prefer some genres of Christian music over others. Some of my fellow Christians cringe when I put on Stryper or Holy Soldier simply cause they don’t like rock/metal, has nothing to do with the lyrics.
I mostly listen to power metal. It's a sub-genre of metal characterized by fantastical themes of dragons, heroes, saving the day, and just basic sword n sorcery. The messages are always "Never give up," "Good always wins," and some are stealth-christian songs if you look into the lyrics (Songs that take inspiration from the bible but without mentioning the name "jesus") Like the song "keeper of the seven keys" by helloween I feel is heavily inspired by the book of revelations.
You should really listen to Lauryn Hills unplugged album😭❤️
Often in these discussions, noone talks about how the non-lyrical aspects will influence you.
Right. When that beat drops, there aren't many paying attention to the lyrics. We say we like songs when what we really mean at times is that we like beats.
I absolutely love hiphop but it can often be explicit and vulgar. I still listen to different forms of it because it can be very creative and inspiring at times, while sounding great.
Most of the music I listen to is instrumental. Its all just beeps and boops, and other instruments. Anything that does have lyrics is not anti-biblical/explicit, but I will be honest and say I rarely listen to Christian music in my down time.
Either way I do understand the importance of music. This is why one of my life goals is to learn how to compose. Its not what I want to do for a job in life, as ive found writing music to be frustratingly hard to wrap my head around, but it is something I want to do in life, because music is almost spiritual in nature, and thats something I want to contribute to in some way. But I just dont see myself writing worship music necessarily, just instrumental.
Music has power spiritually and physically. Becareful what you're feeding yourself
What about instrumental music?
I’m a metal head and when I became a Christian I only listened to Christian metal but I listened to this one band called dark funeral and I tried to stop listening to them after I became a Christian but they just released a new album called “we are the apocalypse” and I really wanna listen to it what should I do?
If it has an electric guitar i'm listening. Doesn't even need lyrics, just that sweet electric guitar sound!
Could someone help me, I listen to Doja cat and she’s my current favorite artist and has been for years, and I would say I’m serious about Christianity and I actually searched for this video specifically because of the Doja cat title, her music just hits me so differently compared to other artists and there’s no Christian music or non pornographic type music online like hers, does anyone know what I can do? I’ve been praying over it a while and would appreciate help
God has definitely spoken to me through Hanson and they aren't even a Christian band.
I no longer listen to secular music I got so fed up of worldly things . So I confess to God told the truth and I ask god to forgive me I have sinned I no longer want anything
Can you talk about fan fiction like tumblr and Wattpad
Can someone tell me if "tears in heaven" is an ok song? Also what about foreign songs? I listen to Japanese music sometimes but they are not explicit at all.
what about songs about magical girls fighting evil?
I love your critique of Christian music. I always felt guilty for criticizing some Christian music for have bad quality, but you're right about striving for excellence.
Christian music is 90% terrible 😅
@💓A.M No acknowledgement of sin or repentance. Man-centered. Borderline pagan.
Good job, we should have more young men like you and Colin Miller who share the truth of God's word. God bless
Colin Miller goes hard!
What about movies and video games
I think this is kinda easy in case of songs that have lyrics. But there are genres where often people make songs without lyrics. And this is honestly something where I have no idea whether that is okay or not.
Interesting. I didn't try that yet. I mostly listen to christian music now, but not exclusively.