Videography vs. Cinematography

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  • čas přidán 19. 04. 2022
  • What are the biggest differences between cinematography and videography? Could one be better than the other? Today I explain the advantages & disadvantages of each.
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Komentáře • 57

  • @EricThayne
    @EricThayne  Před 2 lety +14

    Do you consider yourself a videographer or cinematographer?

    • @AndresArosemena
      @AndresArosemena Před 2 lety +4

      I consider myself a videographer because most of what I do is event videos, and when I shoot product videos or interviews I feel I am nowhere near the level of crafting the scenes to call myself a cinematographer, even though I am trying to improve my lighting with each job.

    • @Gigas_tv
      @Gigas_tv Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/fGqg5soeGFA/video.html

    • @dutchmilk
      @dutchmilk Před rokem +1

      I don't agree with your understanding of videographer.
      As anyone familiar in the industry, a "videography" is a loaded word. A videographer is a layman belief that someone who does filming, can do pre, production to post, including sound design and editing and effects. While cinematography refer to specific actions and role for pre, production and post.
      A "videographer" can do what a cinematographer does, while a cinematographer might not able to do what a "videographer" can do.

    • @jessejroriginal
      @jessejroriginal Před 9 měsíci

      A cinematographer definitely, since I started as photographer.

    • @craigstynardt4990
      @craigstynardt4990 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thank your for this great video, Eric. I started out ten years ago with videography. Non-staged capture of reality as aesthetic as possible. I earned good money. No operators, assistants, props, lighting & setdesign. direction by a client representative who checked the images while I captured them. It was fun. Small lightweight cameras and I met lots of nice people turning client reps into friends. We shot most of the stuff at luxury hotels & estates hosting congresses & graduations. Beautiful places. I operated on my first short shortly after. Way more prep, we started creating the shotlist half a year in advance. There was an entire department just in charge of changing the reality around us. For me it was the next step of creative freedom. All the time & control I never had before.
      Today I light & sometimes operate for commercials. Creating new worlds based in the reality of our own. I love it. More than I loved capturing real events in the real world professionally.

  • @he.smile_
    @he.smile_ Před 2 lety +60

    To me a videographer is mostly a one-person crew (they'll often direct/film/edit/color grade/etc their own projects) and a cinematographer is part of a bigger crew where there's other heads of departments and they'll mostly supervise a team of ACs, grips and gaffers.

    • @EricThayne
      @EricThayne  Před 2 lety +5

      Yes that is often the case!

    • @AesirViking
      @AesirViking Před 5 měsíci

      I can't agree, I've seen guys rich enough to start a production studio with the owner mostly acting as director/DP and with separate employees for editing, animation etc, and yet they shot everything on DSLR in auto mode...

    • @Mr.GoodVibesCaLi
      @Mr.GoodVibesCaLi Před 2 měsíci

      i like this understanding between the two

  • @cosmocalisse
    @cosmocalisse Před rokem +66

    Videography is the art of how to best capture real-life scenes, while cinematography is the art of staging the best artificial scene possible. Comparing videography to cinematography is like comparing photography to painting.

    • @Rowens_el_terricola
      @Rowens_el_terricola Před 9 měsíci

      So, I am a videographer because I want to teach about nature and wildlife by showing real-life challenges nature is facing

    • @haveltravel25
      @haveltravel25 Před 2 měsíci

      simply well put

    • @cosmocalisse
      @cosmocalisse Před 2 měsíci

      @@Rowens_el_terricola nah you're either a reporter on you're in education

    • @Rowens_el_terricola
      @Rowens_el_terricola Před 2 měsíci

      @@cosmocalisse Formally I was a high school teacher, now I work in an NGO but I still try to teach about nature using CZcams

  • @J_HNP
    @J_HNP Před rokem +10

    The way I see it:
    Cinematography is crafting moments through blocking, framing, lighting, etc., to maximize the emotion of story elements. There is a lot of time and thought put into each frame, and each scene.
    Videography is capturing moments as they occur, with little manipulation of the environment, and often little thought as yo how the story will unfold. Like, capturing a wedding or event that will be shared with that group of people.
    I go back and forth between both, depending on what the client needs. But, I always carry a cinematographers approach with me no matter what I do.

  • @Pfagnan
    @Pfagnan Před 2 lety +23

    I am a TV Producer with 40 years experience - very well explained my friend!! 👏👏👏

  • @colinthecameraguy
    @colinthecameraguy Před rokem +3

    Some very good points, thank you.
    Your comment about it being a sliding scale makes me think of those times when a big budget movie employs ‘videography’ looks such as hand held camera and camera shake to create that real world feel.

  • @Kenny-Ross
    @Kenny-Ross Před rokem +3

    That was really good! Thank you for the detailed breakdown. Well-explained with a lot good points. I watched this as I'm trying to create a tagline for my drone business. I was thinking, should I say cinematography or videography? I was going to settle on cinematography but now I think I'll go with videography. However, incorporating the principles of cinematography. Great video!

  • @destinylewis3209
    @destinylewis3209 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you so much for your video and break down ! Admire your passion as well 💯

  • @106bagishrabha6
    @106bagishrabha6 Před 7 měsíci +1

    If you are an absolute begginer then you should be focusing more on strory.... Because in my opinion that's the most important part.

  • @abdullahabed5173
    @abdullahabed5173 Před rokem +5

    Cinematigraphy is a pure art

  • @davidwurtzel5198
    @davidwurtzel5198 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey Eric, interesting take I really enjoyed your video (and channel!). I shoot docs for PBS full time and also freelance DP a bunch on the side. I personally dislike being called/ credited a videographer, but have also chosen to 'stay quiet' on it with EP's who may be ignorant to this even being a thing. Probably because the check still clears, right? We should all probably be more vocal at times. I've had this conversion a bunch with collogues over the past few years and this is what I believe: By using a set of acquired skills and by intentionally manipulating the lighting, lensing, and camera movement - you become a cinematographer. For most of the work I do, I'm trying my best to give an accurate depiction of a subjects world (on doc work) while also capturing images that move emotionally. There is a very fine line we have to walk there on doc work vs narrative. Just food for thought!

    • @EricThayne
      @EricThayne  Před 2 lety

      Hey David, really great thoughts. From my perspective, what you call yourself is important, because it forms an identity for you to operate under. But I don’t mind if others use different words. I primarily work with business clients. They’re not filmmakers, so therefore don’t have the vocabulary or understand the difference between terms. To them, I’m the videographer, camera guy, filmer, etc. If that’s the word that makes sense to them that’s okay.

  • @SangsakaCreative
    @SangsakaCreative Před 9 měsíci +1

    Videography is only about taking a video as good as possible. Good meaning aesthetic, proper, and interesting, whereas Cinematography is not ony about aesthetic but also about storytelling, Cinematography is Involving design thinking to solve the problems. Not just a film or movie, promotional video and corporate profile video is also a part of it.
    The main difference between videography and cinematography is not about who you are, its about how you think. A good videographer can be a cinematographer and vice versa, and yes i agree about your opinion regarding the spectrum.
    Videography = Graphic Design
    Cinematography = Visual Communication Design

  • @NicolasWaldvogel
    @NicolasWaldvogel Před 2 lety +7

    Good way of explaining although a cinematographer doesn't often chose the costumes and direct the actors. Those are separate HODs like the director and costume designer who do that. The DP will have their input on it but ultimately it's not their department. A cinematographer's job is the visual execution of the material in accordance with the director so camera and lens choice, filters, composition, lighting and camera movement. A videographer can be someone who is mindful of lighting and these things too. But they usually work alone so a videographer essentially is a director, producer, cinematographer, gaffer, costume designer and sound recordist all in one. You are right though, when a few people are added to the crew, the lines do get blurred.

    • @KBDanzy
      @KBDanzy Před 2 lety

      Same here. But I'm nowhere near a cinematographer. I don't put near as much time in planning my content.

    • @EricThayne
      @EricThayne  Před 2 lety

      Well said!

  • @FAMEAcademyNY
    @FAMEAcademyNY Před 14 dny

    I think everything you said is 100% on point!

  • @KBDanzy
    @KBDanzy Před 2 lety +1

    Good discussion...I'm trying tackle videography first...then 1 day I can get into cinematography 😎

  • @DEXKLANDEV
    @DEXKLANDEV Před 2 lety

    Fantastic, very well said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @johnclay7644
    @johnclay7644 Před rokem +1

    good 12mins on the differences. one trick is to use the same cinematographer (Doug Slocumbe IJ 1981,84,89) many times.

  • @aduttonater
    @aduttonater Před rokem +1

    Just shot cinematic on my drone and I’m impressed

  • @sandjackal
    @sandjackal Před 7 měsíci

    Thank u for the info

  • @Fihtyr
    @Fihtyr Před 8 měsíci +1

    I want to be a videographer and am thinking of going to full sail for film and video/digital cinematographer would I be able to make a career for videographer that way

  • @omarsmedia
    @omarsmedia Před rokem +2

    Cinematography is “cinematic” videography. Videography is just capturing of videos. That simple. Broadcasters are raw videographers. Cinematographers are “film” makers. 🙂

  • @rybread81
    @rybread81 Před 2 lety +1

    What do you think about a video that used a lot of green screen? Or does authenticity play a role?

    • @EricThayne
      @EricThayne  Před 2 lety +4

      I say whatever tools you need to create your vision are perfect 😊

  • @WolfsHaven
    @WolfsHaven Před 8 měsíci

    Going back to the days of film and eventually television, those making movies wanted a term to differentiate themselves. It became more important once movie cameras became more affordable and home movies became popular. Suddenly everyone became a film or movie maker. The term was no longer special.
    Now if you make movies meant to be shown on the big screen in the cinema, you are a cinematographer. It really drives them nuts with everyone on the internet is putting up movies and trying to make them to be "cinematic".
    Photographers never felt that need. You take photos? You're a photographer. You're good but moving pictures? Everyone has to be put in their place. It's so petty.

  • @oldrogue4247
    @oldrogue4247 Před rokem +1

    Cinematography has its roots in art, specifically painting. The “rule of thirds,” and the Golden Ratio were invented or perhaps recognized centuries before images moved across a screen. Videographers have progressively borrowed the cinema and painting techniques of composition, light and dark, background separation, etc. Even this video of yours has also borrowed those techniques from cinema, but that doesn’t mean it is cinematography, because it isn’t.
    Is their a line between cinematography and videography? Yes there is, but it’s fuzzy. I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. You can create art by aping an older art form, but it doesn’t necessarily become that art form by doing so. Cinematography is nearly always narrative and builds on yet another art form, that of acting. But aren’t there also actors in TV commercials. Yes, of course. So you used a couple of actors, lit it like a movie in your commercial to sell your product. Does that make it cinema? I for one, don’t think so. Cinema is first and foremost, theatre. Commercials are not. You could hire Emmanuel Lubezki, Rachel Morrison, or Roger Deakins to light and shoot it for you, but it would still be, just another commercial.
    So, how can I tell the difference between cinematography and videography? Not by knowing which camera you used, that’s for certain. Since there is a two-way migration of film techniques and technology, the only difference remaining is purpose. What are you trying to achieve? Talking heads on CZcams is not cinematic. Content is the only thing that matters.

  • @thebikerphotographer3774

    That's how I think of the two as well.

  • @alexanderwindh4830
    @alexanderwindh4830 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Why does Gran turismo look cheap?

  • @zuemezueme7531
    @zuemezueme7531 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Your handle to follow you more

  • @BLAZE45
    @BLAZE45 Před 9 měsíci

    What you just described as a cinematographer is actually what the director is for.

  • @dannydanny9875
    @dannydanny9875 Před 8 měsíci

    he understood the assignment.

  • @power-wash5063
    @power-wash5063 Před 2 lety

    I I’ve your video bro !

  • @sivankaka
    @sivankaka Před 2 lety

    😎

  • @themvp_in
    @themvp_in Před 10 měsíci

    Videography is no filter

  • @VictorSteven39
    @VictorSteven39 Před 5 dny

    🧸♥️♥️✨️

  • @Tore_Lund
    @Tore_Lund Před 11 měsíci

    Videography is just cinematography without noticeable color grading and misuse of ND filters! Nothing spells realism as proper videography. Cinema is fantasy.

  • @itsthekt4985
    @itsthekt4985 Před 2 lety +1

    Dude. Get the point faster in your videos and cut out the intro graphic. Everyone skips those nowadays.
    I’m sending this as love, not hate my bro

    • @Alex_Short
      @Alex_Short Před rokem +1

      I am not skipping and i can wait while thought is evolving. So you in a different world compare to this video. Happenz