NIGHTMARE TIME, Ep 1: The Hatchetfield Ape-Man & Watcher World
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2020
- Professor Hidgens discovers the missing link, and Bill Woodward takes his daughter Alice to a creepy theme park that's more than meets the eye.
Welcome to ‘NIGHTMARE TIME,’ tales of terror from the tiny town of Hatchetfield. Episode 1’s stories include ’The Hatchetfield Ape-Man’ and ‘Watcher World.’
WARNING: The stories featured in 'Nightmare Time' contain mature themes, adult language, and violence. As this is a live reading, captions with not be available for the initial broadcast. However the script for the entire episode (including song lyrics) will be made available here: www.teamstarkid.com/nightmare...
The stories for ‘Nightmare Time’ are written by Nick & Matt Lang, with songs by Jeff Blim, and musical accompaniment by Matt Dahan. The series cast includes:
Jaime Lyn Beatty
Jeff Blim
Corey Dorris
Mariah Rose Faith
Angela Giarratana
Lauren Lopez
Robert Manion
Jon Matteson
Curt Mega
Kendall Nicole
Joey Richter
Dylan Saunders
James Tolbert
Kim Whalen
NIGHTMARE TIME Episode 1 was originally read live on October 10, 2020. - Zábava
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Shoutout to the person in the live chat who commented 'none of this would have happened if lucy was a lesbian'
OMG I SAW THAT TOOO
37:45
@Derpy thank you
Lesbianism is often the answer
@@outside8312 no it's always the answer 😂
you're walking in the witch wood. there's no one around and your phone is dead. out of the corner of your eye you spot him: professor hidgens.
AHH!!!
That's it. We found the perfect comment.
start singing, he wont attack you, he'll just sing with you, then you steal his gun and shoot a charlatan
He’s following you about thirty feet back. He gets down on all fours and breaks into a sprint. He’s gaining on you: Professor Hidgens
@@mossycobbles oh nooo
i find it so hilarious that neither lucy nor ted realize that konk, as a wild forest man, should absolutely already know what rain is and that it won’t hurt him.
Stars, too
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT 😂 I was like "y'all think Bigfoot doesn't know about rain?" lmao
real
@@teamcyeborg Was literally thinking both of these things 😂 it’s cool tho that for the audience it’s a hint that something is definitely not adding up
Well Ted was never the brightest book in the tissue box and Lucy was very desperate to believe Konk was real and probably had confirmation bias
"you can't fake an accent like that" he says in a perfect American accent despite being aussie
HAHA I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE
Robert Manion is honestly single-handedly keeping me a part of this community lol
When
I love that man
TIME ?
WHEN THEYRE SINGING ABOUT THEIR HORRIBLE WORKING CONDITIONS AND SOMEONE IN THE CHAT GOES
“this is why they need a union"
Ah I almost forgot about the uwunion
@@heyitsarbor7121 IS IT ACTUALLY CALLED THE UWUNION NOW-
@@dracothelittlepuff1526 It better be
@@dracothelittlepuff1526 or Blinky’s coming for your kneecaps
@@dracothelittlepuff1526 YES IT IS
There goes Ted, screwing around with another man's wife again...
And yet again he lost her to Jeff
@@rockassassin64 omg what if just every character Ted tries to woo ends up with another Jeff character. Next it'll be Man In A Hurry I bet
@@DeathnoteBB why man in a hurry ? lol
In the end, he really died doing what he loved...
@@gamingboy-yd2qz because John McNamara has a husband in wouldn't screw around add band in a hurry has that faralyn energy that the ladies love I assume I'm a lesbian so I don't know if that's something straight girls find attractive
Fair reminder, professor hidgens never put his clothes back on after he took them off. He was naked the whole time.
omg
so let me get this straight, he chases Lucy into a storm, begs for money while pitching an amazing musical, threatens to shoot her and then gets killed, all while being unclothed? this man really said fuck it lmao
@@riley659 That man is dedicated to his musical.
I realized that the first time I watched this lmao
@@riley659 Hey when you're going balls to the wall you need them all out.
"You can't fake an accent like that" has "if thats even your real name" energy
Holy crap and they're both referring to curt
I think that calls for a toast:
*To Honor-*
@@laurenherb3899 to gettinonorstayinonorandifucantcomeinercomeonor GOD BLESS AMERICA
maybe the real apeman was the friends we’ve killed along the way
😔✊
🤣
That was so deep 😭
Damn bro that's really deep
Nice, I always make jokes like that
the hatchetfield ape man was 100% written because of joeys beard and joeys beard only
lottie
am not supposed to tell but yes we wrote just cus of Joey
(This is a joke but am pretty sure everyone knows but my conscience wont let me get away with false impersonation even as a joke)
And of course the only one hairier than Joey would be the real one.
I find it ironic at 34:32 how Hidgens says “prepare to be recast, Ted”, and then eventually gets recast
WAIT HAHAH i literally never realized that
Twice, too 😭
Why did he get recast
@@anabominationagainstman3597 i honestly would just do research on the Robert Manion controversy, would love to explain but i dont want to get any information wrong
@@anabominationagainstman3597 robert sexually harassed a member of the starkid band
I love how when it's not his turn, Jeff stands perfectly still like a powered-off animatronic
he definitely gives off SCP vibes
@@squiddyanimations6617who are we kidding, he is one
Well all that energy he has takes a lot of power, so when they're not using him they gotta unplug him
And i like how happy the blonde girl with the skeleton background looks so happy to be here ^^
He looks like a judgmental God staring upon them
Mariah and Jon laughing throughout the entire first story is such a mood
Imogen And Mariah texting what I’m assuming is their group chat throughout it as well! 😂
Omg I loved that. I'm trying to focus on the story and all I see is Jon red faced and laughing 😂
And Corey looking bored out of his mind the entire time
Timestamp?
@@orchidcapitalofitaly9780 for who?
That relatable feeling when the man you employed to sit naked in your house goes rogue and falls in love man I hate that :/
How could this villainous scheme have backfired?!
What if I tried something new and it
BACKFIRED
Has this happened to anyone else?
I was like *shwoopsie*
@@i.m1ss.y0u.s0.f4r YOU MADE A SCHWOOPSIE
Is no one going to talk about Hidgens needs 30 million for a musical about a group of friends talking on a football field.
He wants to buy the football field
BUSINESS CALLS UP TO MY ASS IN SHIT *HEAD BANG* WHAT IS THIS BUSINESS?! MARKETS CRASHING, I'M AT THE EDGE OF MY WITSS! I JUST CAN'T TAKE ITTT! WHEN ALL I WANT TO DOOO IS SPEND THE DAY WITH-
_greg..._
_and steve..!_
_and stu!_
_and mark....!_
_and leighton!_
*_and...CHAD!_*
And ring ring the phone rings i answer it oh hey greg...
I always thought that 30 million dollars was a bit much for a musical, so I actually looked for the price of a Broadway musical, which I assume that Hidgens would agree to nothing less than Broadway. The average price for a Broadway musical is 8-12 million dollars, and with the pitch he gives, I assume that Workin' Boys would be on the cheaper side. So the question is: WHY DOES HE NEED 4 TIMES THE AMOUNT FOR THIS PLAY!?! WHAT IS HE PLANNING!?!
@@ivymoonsong3497 I've been SWAMPED.... with BUSINESS...
asking someone not to fall in love with joey richter is the most terrifying horror I’ve ever seen
TGWDLM Professor Hidgens: Emma... The world was already doomed. Not by them, but by us. I've been trying to save something that couldn't be saved.
The Hatchetfield Ape-Man Professor Hidgens: I'll kidnap a thousand children before I let this musical idea die!
MONSTERS INC REFERENCE!?!?
@@frizb9034 correct
@@emmae2520 cool!
Maybe this timeline takes place after he’s already given up so he just doesn’t care anymore?
Maybe in this timeline he knows the end of the world is coming, but instead of trying to stop it he is focused on making his dream of performing his own musical come true, even if he has to kill for it (because everyone is gonna die anyways)
Hatchetfield = if Stephen King books were musicals.
Hatchetfield is to Starkid what Castle Rock is to Stephen King.
They need to do a production of carrie to join it all together
There actually is a Stephen king musical. His book Carrie has been adapted to a musical
Lucie Parrish and theres an unofficial one based off of the IT movies
*laughs in Carrie*
I have generalised anxiety disorder and panic disorder, Alice having a panic attack meant a weird amount, the stress afterwards, the healthy way it was stopped, her general portrayal of a panic attack was actually accurate. It made me feel more seen than I ever expected
Mariah has spoken about her own struggles with anxiety so that's probably why she was able to do it so accurately 🥰
i love how "blink one, blink twice" is a reference to the whole "once for yes, twice for no" thing used in hostage situations
Living for Joey's 'shut the hell up Lauren'
Don’t be mean to Lauren
daaaam joey mills! that was cold! don’t be mean to lauren!
I literally felt a pain in my soul at the moment idk why 😂
wait when did he say that
Chelsea Cleope After Angela’s sniggle got hit in the face
I love how everyone has forest backgrounds then theres mariah
She's starkids meme queen 👑
spoopy scary skeletons
Yes lol!
The Karolina Zebrowska of Starkid
@@luuuuux_ Yes!
Trail To Oregon and Hatchetfield are now connected:
In Trail to Oregon, Jack Bauer (I don't know if that's spelt correctly) straight up swallows snake venom then becomes high as fuck and sees the audience. He refers to us as the watcher with a thousand eyes. What does Blinky apparently have? a thousand eyes. This could mean that Blinky has been around since 1800s and has been watching Jeff and his many characters become insane over and over again
Thank you for coming to my Headcannon TED talk :)
ah i get it
TED talk
And maybe Craphole is connected to the Black And White because he can hear animals talking
i also thought of this!!! thank you!!!
To add onto this, I think the Hatchetfield musicals and TTO are connected somehow. I forget which song it was since my playlist was on shuffle, but in a TTO song, Craphole sings something about “ring-a-ling-ding” and I haven’t seen every Starkid musical, but I only ever heard Chris Kringle sing those exact words. Also both musicals deal with musical(s) with different endings and stuff like that, idk. Just a little theory of mine.
I now we know that one of the monsters is literally a mouthface
upon rewatch, i think it’s really interesting the types of weapons that bill and alice use. alice’s gun reflects how she wants to be kept at a distance, while bill’s mallet reflects how he wants to make close contact with her
oooh very interesting
It also calls back Alice killing Bill with a gun in TGWDLM
@@quirrelmortsomg it's THE quirrelmorts
OOooo that’s so good
I knew something was off when this man didn't know what rain was even though he literally lived outside for a good portion of his life.
RIGHT! he was like "water falls from the sky!" and I was like Sir you live in a *FOREST*
We do not Stan inconsistencies
adsklfj that confused me too!!! but I was like "Maybe he's stupid idk" I'm a fucking fool!! Dammit Ted
True.... UNLESS he had to go into hiding in a cave or something
Exactly
Okay but Robert singing London bridge is falling down was... Heeeella creepy
I joined the stream when that was happening and I was confused
Why is Robert chasing someone up a tree with a gun? And who did this Pigeon and i misheard Konk a C0cK
The Duck ok this isnt abt this but i saw u on a beetlejuice slime tutorial :)
Sarina Weinberg link it
Asriel Dreemurr czcams.com/video/ZitP7P5Nx8w/video.html it should be this one
@@sar.the.star08 :))
Ok but am I the only one who thinks that Hatchetfield Apeman would make a *great* 1950s-style cheesy horror comic?? Like it would be so good and work so well??
You can’t have the song in the comic.
A mute film
i can see that really well!
the way Angela plays Lucy really gives that old-Hollywood damsel vibe, but its a nice twist on the tropes with Hidgens and Ted's dynamic
The fear I felt when I heard Joey go: “ahoy there boys and girls”...
It activated my flight or fight reflex so fucking fast
Fr, I almost threw my phone
I was smiling then my face just dropped and I scurried away from my computer
Lol can I have a timestamp for that?
@@brighidcampbell491 58:27
Bad news, Bill is no longer the most morally sound person in Hatchetfield. Good news, we have our first Hatchrtfield stories with happy-ish endings!
I still think Bill is the most morally sound...well besides the Good General and his Peeps
But otherwise Bill is good
Yeah blinky was doing a similar thing to him that wiggly did to everyone else I think
I don’t think anything after the roller coaster can be held against him because of Blinky, and it shows he really loves Alice that he was able to overcome it. But the drop in morality comes more from things like his initial ignoring of her wanting to be a playwright and his eagerness to have her break up with Deb, even if it meant Deb had to cheat on her. We knew he wasn’t fond of Deb, but what looked like legitimate but incorrect concern in TGWDLM is revealed here to be a lot deeper and less founded.
@@aidancurry218 yeah I see what you mean
Who's the most morally sound now then, hannah?
Non Binary representation and images reminding people to vote at the end. I didn't think it was possible for me to love Starkid more, but here we are.
Catching up on lore after NPMD and this lore is RICH😩👌❤️
LMAO LITERALLY SAME.
Same!!
Samee
Edit: I did not expect to see a guy making out with a car
Edit 2: and now they're fighting stoned birds with guns????
I’ve boarded this boat as well. Don’t know why I slept on these for so long
Not all of us here for the same reason
How is no one talking about Jamie’s iconic solo during the intermission.
“This is so stupid, he’s not even real”
“Wait what? He can rip off your face? Are you fucking high?”
And Jeff’s harmonizing 😂
I think all the Hatchetfield shows are about someone's worst fears coming true. In TGWDLM, it was Paul's, because he doesn't like musicals and his life became one, and most of his friends were killed or apotheosisized because of it. In Black Friday, it was General McNamara's because he had to face the fact that the country he loves is actually not so great as he watches the world he has sworn to protect fall apart. In The Hatchetfield Ape Man, it was Lucy's fiance's worst fear because he knew what was going on, but she fell in love with someone else, then he died. Plus, she was right all along about there being an Ape Man. And in WatcherWorld, it was Alice's worst fear because she had to deal with her dad, who basically confirmed that he didn't like her and tried to kill her, all while having to sit through something both disturbing and childish instead of being able to prevent Deb cheating on her (and she had to face her fear of heights).
woah i like this theory
Ok just wow
ooh
it seems like my brain has been transfigured
@@farateq blinky at the end of watcherworld: it seems like my eye has been *disfigured*
Roberts too good at playing crazy people, it’s concerning
Same with jeff
And remember higgins is naked for the whole of that last bit
For real tho
Its alarming
@@digestivebiscuit8967 oh god I forgot that part
I cannot be the only one who loves the line: "Welcome to America, you tea-taxing son of a bitch."
Like, I get Hidgens is crazy and all but dang. The way he said it was great.
He’s got some old grudges it seems…
I just love how Jon and a Robert are clearly in the same room, and Jon just keeps staring over at Robert doing his Hidgens shtick
I'm really late to this but did John and Robert actually stay in the same room?
@@aG0ATI think they were roommates for a while
@@guccigoosieoh my god, they were roomates😏
At 13:25 ish you can even hear jons laugh coming through Roberts audio
The opening song is just **chef's kiss**
I cannot stop listening to it
I'm gonna need that album (and/or clip) real soon cause it's already on loop in my mind and i do not do well with the glitches (also I WILL internalize them if i listen to this version too much which means the right version will sound wrong, F)
@@tish5200 MOOD
YES
Omg same
I hope they release that song soon, it's so GOOD but the glitches unfortunately interrupt the song so often!
now we know important things about the characters from tgwdlm
ted likes acting
Indeed. That is very important.
Also bill is weak
Don’t forget that time Becky barns was in a tree for 2 days
Asriel Dreemurr he’s still learning how to kick above his waist
Foxglove Fairy not from tgwdlm
Angela is AN INCREDIBLE actress. I mean seriously. Everything she says feels so real and raw and believable. She should get much more appreciation and attention!!!!!
She’s part of Smosh now, too!
Around 1:38:23, someone in the chat said "Watcherworld is an allegory for peer pressure and social media," and I think that is a fantastic takeaway from this.
my mood is jon and mariah LOSING IT at “conk”
And Curt!
Me before this: pff there is no way professor hidgens could surprise me, I already know what a chaotic mess he is
Me now: I underestimated the chaos tendency
Hidgens in TGWDLM: Chaotic Neutral
Hidgens in HAM: Chaotic Evil
Addy 0302 was he not ultimately chaotic evil in TGWDLM??
@@user-qv2qf1jk5o he was absolutely chaotic evil
you didn’t think about the implications
Hidgens is the 5th Chaos God
Bill helping Alice down the stairs and asking about her at as shes having a panic attach is some of the best writing I've ever seen. And Cory and Mariahs acting is just phenomanal in that scene.
(SPOILERS) It may sound silly but I think I could write a whole essay on Watcher World specifically when it comes to Alice's relationship to Bill.
I usually find these daddy-daughter relationships in genre stuff insufferable; you can feel the mean spirited bullshit of the middle-aged man writing it. The daughters are generally either helpless victims or given heavy handed "respect yo' father spoilt little girl" arcs, often both in the worst circumstances.
Here, Alice saves herself as much as her Dad saves her and the reconciliation isn't capped with her being shamed or greatly humbled, but simply throwing her Dad a bone because she knows he deserves it.
I kinda love it personally because while the narrative acknowledges Alice's flaws, it doesn't necessarily shame her for them which I appreciate.
The evolution from 'not my tummy' to 'not my arms' is extraordinary
NOT MY ARM ARMS
THATS THE SAME THING I SAID WHEN I FIRST SAW IT!!!
Next they come for his legs.
I'm at the start of Part 2 and Bill and Alice are giving me strong Dr. Doofenschmirtz and Vanessa vibes
oh my GOD
Now all we need is a bunch of kids who make complicated inventions and an animal with a fedora and starkid musicals can be considered a Phineas and Ferb au.
@@maknchill7980 #BringBackRumbleroar2020
I was thinking its essentially A Goofy Movie but for Starkid
I lost it when it was revealed that Professor Hitchens literally faked the missing link just to fund Workin' Boys. Now that's dedication.
I would
"Alice Woodward started following you" I CRIED THAT'S SO SWEET
I'm glad there's at least one universe where they could fix their relationship to some extent.
"And she's gay"
"love it"
me with anything
This is great, but I love the idea that Dylan's neighbor's are so confused about him filming himself in his backyard singing about nightmares.
1:57 is when Dylan saw that his neighbors were watching him so he ran away lol
can we just appreciate how robert gets SO in character he even does the dramatic eleventh hour sit like hidgens god i love this man
not sure who i expected to play the ape man but shirtless bearded insane joey richter is of course the obvious choice
The ape man lured me into a false sense of security that watcher world would be kind of serious but mostly random and funny and boy was I wrong
.... w h a t ?
Same!
They were so different it kinda scared me
!! exactly omg
what i took from this
•becky barnes climbs trees like a fucking squirrel
•professor hidgens is way more chaotic then we thought
•ted has a YOUNGER BOTHER???? IS IT THE CINEPLEX TEEN?????
•alice is VALID and if anyone thinks otherwise they can FIGHT ME
•i want the gay vampire musical. i will pay good money for it
•is blinky wigglys brother? his husband? his cousin?
•Jeff is still in a hurry
•Konk is probably a relative of Grunt
•sniggles appear for every almighty being. this means that there are probably sniggles for webby
•when ted/ konk ws dying, lucy said something about the “black and white tiles”
Ok I have a crazy theory: What if Ted's younger brother is Ethan? Ted's last name is a spoiler right? so it would make sense if Ethan is his brother because we already know his last name and revealing Ted's last name would give away the fact that are related which could be relevant later on, and they just don't want us to know yet. Bc Cineplex Teen doesn't have a last name so Ted's last name wouldn't be a spoiler in that case (unless of course that is still true and the Ted last name is some other spoiler)
Edit: Ooh ooh! ok so unless I heard incorrectly, he said Ted's brothers (plural) so what if Professor Hidgens (if that is his real name) is one of his brothers and that's why they are working together
Natalie Draper YES
we cannot compete with -squirrels- becky barnes
edit: hold on i have two more
and i'm happy as a _-squirrrrrrel-_ becky barrrrrnes long as i'm with mister quirrrrrrrrrel
becky the hatchetfield pocket squirrel
that's all folks
@@emmamonksfield Wow that was quick lol. Was the yes just for the Ethan thing or my long shot Hidgens edit?
@@emmamonksfield Do we know anything about Ted's parents though?
The one non-binary character being called Ziggs is embarrassingly accurate
I've legit known someone named Zig-zag, ziggy for short I-
Z names are just enby magnets
or moss
Ziggs is a classic nb name that's an actual name. It would be hilariously accurate if they did socks or brick or something
when i heard this i lost my mind because ive gone by Dagger for 4+ years and know someone whos named Zetherian
Bill: "Oh come on, you can't sleep through the show"
Also Bill: *Proceeds to sleep through the show*
alice used an uno reverse card on him but we just didn't see it
theory: nick is the all powerful all knowing webby. that’s why he knows everything that happens and puppeteers everything going in hatchetfield
talk about projecting onto a character
This would be really cool... but Uh, doesn’t Hannah say “she” when referring to Webby.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
when they do the episode "the witch in the web" i bet its about webby and nick BETTER PLAY HIM
@@Fcarpenter23 and?
@•c i n n a b u n•
I mean cross dressing introduced us to the legend Mama Umbridge, played by another legend, Joe Walker
“shut up jeff! you’re drunk again, aren’t you?”
“no, i swear i’m snone cone slober!”
snow cone slober!
S N O N E C O N E S L O B E R
taken almost directly from Howl's Moving Castle
it reminds me of “quiet you, you’re drunk!” “no, IM drunk!”
Nope… I’m just better now
When Alice is explaining her play to Bill he was just being so encouraging like sounds great even when all she had said was that there was a girl. When she said that there was a vampire he was all like sounds scary, but when she said that it was a comedy he said sounds funny and Bill was such a good dad at that moment
bill seems like a good dad overall. She’s just being immature about the divorce
@@somnodaur8064 I'm sorry, I don't think it's immature to be upset that you got ripped away from everything you knew by a man who keeps infantilizing you. Add to that, Bill refuses to accept what she wants to do with her life until he uses it to distract her. All "good parent" points earned by that moment are nullified when you realize that he is the reason they're up there. He asks why she doesn't tell him stuff but he belittles what she does tell him. The Alice he has in his head is no longer accurate to how his daughter actually thinks now. Instead of learning who his daughter is now, he tries to force her back to the way she was. This is what happens a lot with homophobic/transphobic parents. Their child isn't the way they want them to be so they think they can just fix it at the expense of the child. I don't think he's malicious, I just think that he needs to be willing to accept that who his daughter dates is not his choice. He should talk to her about what is and isn't a healthy relationship and have an open conversation with her is he really wants to do something. Separating her from that person is just going to make things worse. Then they become star-crossed lovers and it becomes us vs them. This is going to leave Alice with issues with authority if it hasn't already. I know this because I've seen it over and over and over again with my friends parents while living in the suburban midwest.
@@Galfuria_to be clear, Bill isn't homophobic, he just hates Deb, the girlfriend, specifically. At least in the apotheosis universe. That doesn't make his behavior any better, I just thought it was important for context.
@@alexjewett7455 I never said he was. my point would be exactly the same regardless of Debs gender. another good point that I didn't put in that comment is the line "Did you know that I wanted to live with you and when you needed to fight you gave her that too" from not your seed in tgwdlm. it shows that he's really not willing to put in the work to parent her and just wants to do the more fun stuff he would do with her as a child rather than give her a stable father figure.
@@Galfuria_ sorry, my mistake. And I agree that, either way, he's still a shitty parent.
It’s so unfortunate that the first song is glitchy, because it’s so damn good
Edit: Especially Mariah, like damn
I like your pfp
@@leylacorinne4351 Lol I was about to say the same.
it's on spotify!
Both her voice and looks make my jaw drop every time without fail, also her and Robert laughing is just amazing
I'm sorry but Curt, Mariah, and Jon all pissing themselves laughing is making my day
Dude Jon's face is RED
Not gonna lie after reading this as I watched this I looked at them the whole time
for the entirety of part 1 i was just watching mariah absolutely losing it with pure joy. made my day
*LMAO THEY’RE SO CUTE I LOVE THEM!!!*
Hatchetfield sure is a happening little island. 2 highschools, a boating society, a Ciiiinnabon, a Nordstroms, *AND AN AMUSEMENT PARK?!*
don't forget the witch wood!
@@TiaMat99 and the old starlight theatre in downtown hatchetfield... the touring production of mama mia went there you know
@@_.elena_ I could riff off some other exciting places in Hatchetfield... but I won't put NMT spoilers here! Those who have seen ep 2 will know what I'm referring to!
@@TiaMat99 I'm intrigued, maybe I'll find out soon
Edit: guess I'll find out on Sunday
Don’t forget that there is also a mall WITH a toy store AND A FREAKING CINEPLEX IN THE MALL. The mall that’s in my city is tiny compared to that one.
We all love Professor Hidgens, but Hidgens in a loosely fitted robe acting like a frightened mother is just world deserving
Out of ALL the parallel realities in the multiverse, there is always ONE similarity.....
Workin’ Boys.
5 o'clock can't come soon enough...
It’s a show stoppin’ number
They’re up to their ass in shit.
what if the reason Hidgens always gets stopped in his pursuit of Workin Boys (and speculating on that one teaser with Jeff as Hidgens)
because something about it gets linked to all the mystical stuff going on in HF?
i swear if at the apex of Hatchetfield lore, we find out the one constant thing that holds the town and all the timelines or history all somehow converges at Hidgens and his goddamn show, i am offically quitting 😂
sooooo you're telling me Hidgens has been shaving Konk for 13 months? Konky...
THIS SHOULDNT HAVE MADE ME LAUGH AS MUCH AS IT DID KALGKAMFMSMD
"KONKY" I'M DYINGGGG
Jared (dear Evan Hansen) be shaking
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANNA THINK ABOUT THAT
when I tell you I CACKLED when I read this
Spoilers
Can we just talk about how Bill loves his daughter SO MUCH that even under Blinky's full influence it could only convince him to break her legs, and when it tried to push him to kill her he broke free of its control instead?
Shut up you're gonna make me cry
Bill is the best dad :)
Angela’s sniggle solo is so random and weirdly out of context but also really beautiful.
When Snigglett says “I don’t want to do this anymore,” to us, the watchers with a thousand eyes, and Snigglox, “says Blinky, “Blinky commands it” it’s like Blinky demands that Snigglett stays in the Black and White (as another commenter mentions, it is the script. black in on a white page.). But when Joey starts showing genuine concern for the person playing Snigglett (in this case the starkid, Angela) it becomes real. There’s so much demand to entertain and create content/a marketable product, that it begins to cut into our mental well-being and physical health.
This is actually genius i was honestly a little caught off guard when their real names were being used
my favourite comment from the stream : "why does Jeff look like he's sitting in the middle of a dark road in the middle of nowhere"
that would not surpise me
Because he probably is.
he is
Obviously he is, he’s searching the apeman
The minute I found out the SNIGGLES were in this I started SCREAMING
And then Angela said DON’T BE SCARED
I WAS SCARED ANGELA
Seth Tan BRO SAME
Bring Joey mentioned drowsy town I kind of freaked out
Yes 😳
SAME
every time that drowsy town was mentioned I had war flashbacks
Okay so Drowsey Town is part of the park, in this universe at least
I personally believe Wiggly has some sort of attraction and restaurant there, as he would be a friend of Blinky
I can’t get over Jon and Mariah laughing hysterically when it isn’t their scene😂
“PRAISE THE WATCHER” has the same energy as “MOTHER. MUMMY. MOTHERRR!”
correy is literally *SO GOOD* as bill, like his dad-ish enthusiasm is really endearing and a joy to watch
bill is the god of all dads
He has major Patton Sanders energy
Always loved Correy he's a gem
Corey is an amazing actor and deserves appreciation
Corey is just so good in general. I've never seen him play a single role that hasn't left me speachless
okay but i want to be rescued by Jeff Blim in a random forest
that would be terrifying
@@alastorbutwithagun I agree.
Like in a "what do you want Paul" way
@@jessoyesso9758 hey if hsi wife isn't into it i'll happily choke him out at night
@@fairystail1 oh to see without my eyes 👁👄👁
Okay, but when Blinky was said to be watching with a thousand eyes, I freaked the hell out.
In Trail To Oregon, y'all remember when Jack Bauer swallowed some snake venom and saw the audience? He described them as "the watchers with a thousand eyes". Could Trail To Oregon possibly linked to this Hatchetfield universe? And keep in mind that the audience, "the watchers" were described as taking pleasure in seeing the family's pain. What does Blinky do? He takes pleasure in Alice and Bill's fight, in their pain, *in their familial problems*.
So this being has been around since roughly the 1800s based off of Trail to Oregon. Also, Blinky must be tied into Wiggly somehow, as Drowsy Town and The Sniggles make a reappearance. Personally, I'm going to agree with another person's headcanon that they're boyfriends, but it's just interesting to note.
TL;DR: We were Blinky the whole time.
Also on the cortine call of TGWLM Emma talks to the public "why are you claping?"/ "someone help me". So maybe when they are in a death moment (same as in Oregon) they can see us.
Wait... if we were blinky the whole time... WERE WE WIGGLY'S SIGNIFICANT OTHER ALL ALONG?
@@iivostroamichevolegmdiquar6859 significant brother. 😓🤢
@@skittyloverbaines3284 but still, it's a good question
The blinky was inside of us all along
mariah and jon both loosing their shit the entire time in ape man is so funny
1:47:00 So Matt improvised the underscoring throughout the whole show?? The talent in this company I am constantly amazed! Like he fully brought in character motifs and themes from other shows. I was sitting there thinking that the music was so clever and it was all improvised???!!!
Matt is so goddamn underrated it's not even funny
Exactly!!! Lord, when bits of Not Your Seed came in during Watcherworld I lost my sh*t. And when Hidgens is telling Lucy to marry him or die, and Matt plays Join Us -or- and Die? Brilliant. And how could I forget the iconic chords of Show Stoppin' Number whenever Hidgens' love of theatre/ Workin' Boys came up! And (!!!) when he wasn't expertly referencing past music, the music that was completely improvised was always spot on for the scene all on its own! Gosh, he's incredible.
Okay I need to mention more things.
- The music from TGWDLM's "Okay" scene being used at 1:08:45 which is so perfectly fitting (edit: corrected TGWDLM's spelling)
- How that "aliens invading minds" melody, the one at the start of both The Ape-Man and Watcherworld, pops up everywhere
- Finishing with Inevitable! (!!!) (!!!!!)
@@weesalikesmilktea4829 the scoring that i especially noticed was the use of ‘not your seed’ through the watcher world story but ESPECIALLY near the end when things are starting to patch up in a bittersweet way the motif from the like ‘why does it hurt to love you’ breakdown from the original song started playing!! blew my entire mind! it’s so perfect bc the og song felt like alice regaining and bit of herself for a moment during that breakdown and now it’s used in a similar way here when they’ve broken the spell of Blinky for eachother. story telling through scores is so incredibly under appreciated
Ted loved “A Show Stopping Number” so much that in this one, (I don’t know how the hatchetfeild time thing works), he’s now working with proffessor hidgens to make it a reality and I think that’s beautiful and I love it.
I think its an alternate reality
In the Ape Man timeline, TGWDLM never happened, but since all characters seem to essentially retain their personality traits, it's perfectly possible that Ted got to know Hidgens some other way (might have been thru Paul and Emma dating, but also Hatchetfield is both a shithole town and an island, so it's not surprising if, among locals, everyone knows everyone), heard his pitch and vowed to help him produce the show no matter what, being such a fan of it
"Fuckin go for it"
Jon laughing every time Robert rolls off camera is everything
Once Rob went, “Lucy, I’m HoooOoooome!” And “Lucy, you’ve got some ‘splainin to do!” I knew they made her name Lucy just to make the _I Love Lucy_ references
They already made the second reference in twisted
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 wait really?
@Rats-xo1yw yeah, at one point, IIRC when he finds out jasmine is marrying aladdin, jafar goes "oh jasmine, you've some splainin' to do"
well. not the first time that alice has pointed a gun at bill.
nice willow pfp
Noo dont hit me in the feels like thatt
HEY KAIIT
@@farateq THANKS!!
@@Intrusivemov HAHSHAH HEYYYY IZ
Ted's nerdy little brother has to be hot chocolate boy, otherwise we riot.
The nerdy guy who works at cineplex?
Either option would be great
I think it’s hot chocolate boy because did you notice how at the end of black Friday ted, Charlotte and HCboy were all holding hands, maybe in that universe ted and Charlotte are married and he’s really close to his brother. He would still have the same brother in other universes but maybe in ape man he doesn’t have the same job and isn’t married. In watcher bill and teds relationship seems to be the same so it is safe to assume he works at the same place with bill and Paul as he did in TGWDLM. Which would mean HC boy could be his brither
@@jayjayheinz8552 exactly!
Wait if hub is Ted's younger brother and Ethan's cousin Oliver then Ted and Ethan are cousins and that would be cool I think
I absolutely love how when Alice sees her phone intact, she just stares at it in awe and says "p h o n e"
Can we just take a moment to appreciate James’s horrifyingly creepy acting for a blinky, tho? SPOT ON combo between creepy, cutesy, and nasty. AMAZING.
That guys got SKILLS
30 MILLION for the musical?? Okay but honestly, why am I surprised at professor Hidgens and his lack of reference to money, the guy lives in a fortress!
He used it for Alexa
That’s what I was thinking
I'd like to know one think - does Hidgens live in a different house in every dimension or does he have a big panic room AND a gothic manor?
@@WielkaAutorkaaD A big gothic panic room
The Hatchetfield Ape-Man: "Oh, I know where this is going..... Okay, neVERMIND-"
Watcher World: "oh no.... oh no.... Oh No..... OOOHH NOOOOOO......."
me during watcher world: **sad, angry, confused internal screaming intensifies**
The chat during watcher world was 90% "NOOOOOO"
6% "BILL NOOOO"
2% "Alice wrote nerdy prudess"
2% "Grace Chastity wouldnt treat alice like that"
Wiggly, a being with multiple names. Pulling strings on everything.
@@digestivebiscuit8967 OH MY. That last 2% aged POORLY.
curt, robert, and joey losing it while lauren is the old lady is everything
Omg when you realize that they all changed their names to "." on the zoom
Two places I know never to go to
1. Watcher World
2. Hotel California
But its a beautiful place
Third place for me is probably the entire New England area. Both in H.P Lovecrafts stories and in real life… the people there are assholes
@@jennajohnson4087 Ik Ik... and I have such a lovely face
Why not go to watcher world
@@asrieldreemurr1988 It creeps me out, that story was terrifying
Hidgens: I just need 30 million dollars.
Me: damn.
Hidgens: Just enough... *smiles at the camera*
Me: wait hold up
Hidgens: to fund...
Me: yes
Hidgens: my new musical...
Me: YES
Hidgens: WORKIN' BOYS
Me: HGJDHDJKSKALKA
This was all of our reactions.
I just realized that the character that professor Hidgens plays in tgwdlm 'working boys' song is called 'Henry', and the professor's name is Henry Hidgens...Pretty obvious but still pretty cool.
@@matthewkehoe5027 I don't know if this is intentional but his name is also close to the professor in My Fair Lady (henry higgins)
As soon as I heard ssn playing in the background I started *freaking out* lol
@@matthewkehoe5027 who is henry hidgens am i missing something
i just realized that the "why does it hurt to love you/why am i in pain" bit from not your seed was playing at 1:35:15 ish when right after bill dropped the mallet and yes those are tears
Matt was improving the whole thing, even with the leitmotifs? INSANITY
Wait fr? No way
As a fellow musician, I recognise this is GOLD. an absolute GOD is he.
W H A T ? I can play by ear, but improv music is SO hard
The Watchers story had me in tears
I’m so happy that it had a happy ending
Also now there are 2 musicals that I would pay to see
1. Working boys
2. Every single one of Alice’s plays
it made me wanna naruto run across the pacific to hatchetfield to give dab a good ol’ slap on the face
edit: OH WAIT I MEANT DEB
consider: Santa Claus is Goin' to High School
Evie
Oh my god I can’t believe I forgot it
Creative Panda Girl you FORGOT
Evie
Sadly it is true, I did. I am ashamed of myself
Mariah's acting on the rollercoaster scene was terrifyingly amazing
IKR I literally can’t
it was so fucking good
fr, i was crying at that scene
When Jeff smiles, he smiles for like 5 minutes. Then over another 5 minutes the smile slowly falls from his face
He's rebooting lol
Professor Hidgens: Don't fall in love with him.
Lucy: Okay
* One second later *
Lucy: * falls for Konk *
Mariah losing it in the background is the highlight of the show
Ok but can we appreciate Jeff’s lil moment at 3:14 LIKE THE LIGHTING, THE HAIR, HIS VOICE, LIKE *chefs kiss*
That part was so good it sent me to webby's dimension
Nick: Hidgens gives chase stomping through the fog like a manic
Robert: **doing a little shoulder shimmy**
Ya know I get that Bill and Alice have problems, but damn does Alice grind your gears as a character. She is being played perfectly but it seems every single show with Corey I feel bad for him. Divorced dad, kid doesn’t like him, wife stolen by lobsters, one-sided romance with McDoon, or he is a rejected tally-wacker.
His daughter doesn't like him because he's a bad father. The few things she tells him he critiques and gives her flack for. He's mad because she is a fully formed human and not exactly what he wants her to be.
@@Galfuria_this. Like, yeah Alice COULD'VE HAD a bit more communication with her dad, but so many problems in their relationship also came from Bill.
Just one example is when she said "[losing friends, losing her gf, moving to fcking Clivesdale😡], none of this is my fault." Bill agreed with her saying "you're right, none of it is your fault", and Alice SMILED, like finally maybe her dad is acknowledging how he fcked up sometimes. But no, he just went on to blame her mom and not taking any of the blame, and she went back to being even more disappointed with him.
I've once read a post saying "some divorced parents hate their ex more than they love their kids" and i think that scene showed exactly this.
@@kullaratt.9336 Exactly. Rule of thumb: any parents who can have their mind warped to not just kill their kid but to ALMOST SMASH THEIR FACE IN WITH A MALLET is not a good dad.
I understand the argument of "he was under the spell of the lords in black" but when Tom was under a very similar spell, he became obsessed with giving his son everything he wants. It just shows the type of person they are and why Bill really isn't a good dad. He's not trying to make Alice happy, he's trying to make himself happy by feeling better than his ex-wife.
It's also really interesting to compare Alice and Bills relationship to Stephanie and her dad (I can't remember his name). Both dads care more about what the world thinks of them than what their kid does, Stephanie's dad is just more honest about it.
I don't think can compare Bill and Tom here.
The motives where completely different. Wiggly was warping peoples mind to want him, and to want to bring him into the world. Blinky was just doing this for his own entertainment.
We would also have to presume that Watcher World would be a place where Blinky's influence is strongest. In TGWDLM, being near the meteor was enough to start converting the titular character, and that meteor is later connected to Pokey.
And lastly, Tom wasn't near his son in the height of his madness.
@@leotamer5 yeah, but even in the car ride over to Watcher World and before the meteor in TGWDLM, Bill still never cared about what Alice wants. He wants to make himself happy and wants her to stay the same as when she was a child after forcing her to go through major life changes.