The Secret to Backing Up a B-Train (It's Easier Than a 53' Trailer!)
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- The Secret to Backing Up B-Trains. It IS easier than reversing a 53' trailer, IF you know the secret to the process. In this video, I will demonstrate the easiest way to backup a set of B-Trains (B-Doubles).
The configuration of B-Trains is more common in Canada, and Australia and New Zealand. We some B-Trains in the Pacific Northwest US.
When backing up a set of B-Trains, the most important thing to remember is positioning of the trailers.
Watch the video to learn how to correctly position the 2 trailers, when backing up a set of B-Trains into a dock.
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With only a few months experience driving a gravel truck in Vancouver I got hired in Edmonton to run a B-Train. On my student trip I was given very clear instructions: "just back it up". I eventually taught myself to control the direction of the rear trailer by controlling the direction of the front trailer. After a few months I could confidently back it into a customer's yard off a narrow street.
Nice after you figure it out! something to be proud of!
I self taught myself and the best way I found to back a b train is basically if you can back a single trailer then you use the lead (front) trailer to steer the rear trailer instead of steering the rear trailer with your steering wheel input (I hope that made sense) lol
This actually was helpful for me in Euro Truck Simulator 2 🤣
True
I've got 600 hours in both 🤣
I was a Christmas peak hire for UPS feeders (doubles) back in “88”. I witnessed a feeder driver do the same thing as you described it was incredible, he would also use a converter dolly on the back of his lead trailer and back it into a dock where the back trailer was, complete the hookup and ready to leave in less than 5 min.
Impressive to watch, isn't it?
I've never backed up a set of "B"trains or "A" trains myself, but one day I made a delivery to a freight yard. I got the pleasure of watch the yard guy back a set of "A"trains into the dock, and the watch him set up another "A" train and never get out of the truck to hand push the dolly in front of the second trailer. He hooked to the first tailer ,backed to the dolly and hooked it up then backed both the first trailer and dolly to the second trailer. He only got out of the truck to wind up the landing legs and to hook the hoses. I was totally amazed by his skill level. To me it's almost impossible to back an "A" train up, but he just proved that theory wrong. Thanks for the video Dave. Enjoyed it eminenclly!!!
Thanks Cassius! It's always a pleasure to watch some guy do something like that and make it look easy!
So true!!! It's always a pleasure to watch a true professional, and see his/her pride in his/ her work!!!
He knows what he’s talking aboot! 🇨🇦
One of my favorite trucking channels. Alot of knowledge and alot of experience. And a good story.
Admit it, Dave, this one was just done as an excuse to play with that cool toy. As usual, top quality. As for your story, I love watching someone do a difficult task and making it look so easy that you're too impressed to be jealous. All the best in 2020.
Thanks Murray! The beauty of this deal was I got to keep the little wooden truck and I can play with it any time iI want!! Thanks for watching!
I pull "A" trains every day into North Jersey and occasionally Brooklyn or Long Island. While i can't back my set up, I understand the angles involved and how far I can and can jack the trailers before they pinch. I'm still honing my skill at backing up with the converter dolly while its on the lead trailer. Personally id love to get the opportunity to run triples, Super B trains, and Tandem vans like they do in NY state. I thoroughly enjoy pulling doubles and believe it or not I actually prefer them to van trailers. That being said, I remember the day they had me hook a set of doubles up, go out into PA and start doing a P&D run with them. What a pain I'll tell you, constantly hooking and dropping. By the end of the day I had gotten so used to hooking and dropping that I could do both in my sleep, and quickly too. The only real downside is trying to find parking for them. Most truck stops dont have double friendly spots, and they tend to get upset wjen you park next to the scales. To which I reply im here for my 30 min break. If you can back em into a spot heres the keys. They usually back down.
Interesting stuff! Yeah peddling ltl and breaking them up all the time would be no fun. As for the parking, I hear you there!
If you ever pulled Super B's you wouldn't want to pull anything else. Just don't let your back trailer get to far gone past the point of recovery. Have pulled Super B's for 20 years now.
Over here in Australia you see that configuration all the time though we call it a B double.
"kids aren't playing with toy trucks anymore." So sad, so true. The only reason I didn't want to play with mine as kid, is because I had more fun climbing in dads dump truck.
Thank goodness for our old school truckers! I don't know what we'd do without them! I've learned a lot from this guy over the years. I've learned things from him that I haven't even put to use or experienced yet, lol. I just like to listen to the old schoolers just to learn anything that I can! Thanks to them, even though I'm a new school driver, I still do things like the old school drivers.
Good to hear you're getting some value from the content.👍😎
My dad taught me that the pup goes the same way as the back of your truck. I'm no pro but it works for me!
I love the use of the toy trucks. They are a great way to explain it and show what’s going on. And it’s a great way for a new guy to practice without burning fuel and getting in everyone’s way
I knew you had that truck custom made when I first saw the thing! Love the dedication you have to this channel. Your knowledge is invaluable to us rookies. Thank you, and God bless you.
Thanks for watching Dylan!
Ha! Love the story, Dave. Thanks. I've never driven a BIG truck/trailer in my life, but I can somewhat relate to today's lesson. Being a dairy farmer, we often back tractor/chopper/wagon, tractor/baler/wagon. You're correct, it isn't that difficult to direct the whole rig where you'd like it to go. Thanks for the videos. Love the stories. Probably time for a whole video dedicated to Dave's stories!
Keith-
Thanks Keith!
Soon as you started telling the story about the guy asking if he could back a train in... I could see where that was going :D Love your response to it. 'Well worth the 25 bucks to see it done well'.
It truly was!
That was a very good story. Never underestimate your opponent . I like to call the back trailer of a super b trailer
the pull trailer.
Great video. My dad just retired from 35 years on the road. Thanks for the story too, brings back some old memories.
I taught myself to back a single trailer with my lego set as a lad, having a steering wheel helped to understand the geometry. Models are a fantastic educational tool, even for big boys.
I love the story this week, thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much ,for putting so much efforts to make this toy truck and make this video for our help.Highly appricoate it.
I remember in school I asked how to back doubles and the instructor just said "you dont"
Thanks for the video. It was very informative. I miss hearing those old stories since my uncle passed a couple years ago. It was always a real treat listening on his daily adventures everytime.
My first trip stateside was with a super B flat bed. I came from Calgary, Alberta and stopped at a truck stop just south of Dillon, MT. When I back up B trains I visualize them in my mind so I know when and what turn to make to reach my objective. Well you should have seen all the rubberneckers that came out as I progressed back into a spot. I was asked how I did it and I played the humble soul and said it was easier than backing up a 53 footer, which for me it was. I loved hauling super B trains because they were so stable with very little to no whiplash and they tracked so well.
Yup, I always liked B trains!
Many of the drivers today can't back 1 trailer...
Got a laugh out of me there Snidely! Dave
Snidely Whiplash - lmao!
True
Good advice. Been driving 8 years never pulled anything but super b grain trailers. This video was helpful. Keep the tires turnin and the coal burnin
You too driver, stay safe!
Happy new year! Scania truckers greetings from Portugal 💪💪💪
Just loving your stories from the good old days. You have a fantastic skill as a storyteller which is highly valued by fellows from the southern States. Jerry Clower would approve of your style and rhythm.
Good advice for aspiring drivers, B trains big down under, spent years driving reefer configurations, hanging carcass meat, we used to get into some real tight places all at night time, certainly sorts the men out from the boys.
I grew up in a triple road train in Western Australia and watched dad back that wherever he wanted , Once I was 12 he let me have a crack and I learnt it wasn’t as easy as he made it look lol
I bet!
If that guy’s still around it would be great to see him back and explain how to back the A trains. I’ve always felt that the ones who could teach are a valuable resource to those who want to learn. What good does it do to hide a talent and not pass it on?
I'm impressed. I've backed trailers behind a pickup (cargo and camper) and behind a tractor. I can get them turned, but I've never figured out how to straighten them. Love you guys that can.
I always enjoy your videos! My best friends sister just started trucking and I told her to watch your videos. I've been driving over 4 years now and I still learn stuff from you. Happy new year!
Thanks and Happy New Year to you!
I still can't imagine pulling a rig that long and heavy. Then the Australian road trains? Forget about it. I'll stick to my 48' open deck that I can see clear across most the time.
Great story, thanks for sharing
Thanks Alex!
The best thing I was taught, no matter what you drive, is that it's all in the setup
Love your informative, precise vids. May you live long and enjoy the years ahead. Happy N.Y.
This answered many old questions I never bothered asking. Thanks!
When backing up a B or super B if you turn the steering wheel left the last trailer turns left, turn the wheel right and the last trailer turns right. The key is knowing when to swing the first trailer so it's straight with the second trailer when the tractor is also straight, otherwise the rear of the second trailer is pointing in the wrong direction and you have to reset and try again.
A good percentage of road transport here in New Zealand is done with the use of the B Train configuration.
In Australia B Doubles and in some States of Australia B Triples operate on public Interstate Highways and in and around the major cities.
Thankyou for this interesting video Smart Trucking.👍😎👍
Happy New Year to you Dave and your wife and family all the very best for 2020 from Rotorua, New Zealand. 👍😃👍
Thank you Mr President!
I used to pull a set of doubles with a C-dolly. It had two eyes and the 34 foot refer had two pintle hooks. I pulled a 26 foot dry box behind it. You could lock the axle on the dolly and back the entire set up right to the receiving dock. It was especially impressive at night when other drivers didn't know what they were looking at - all they saw was that somebody just put a set of doubles back in the dock. Sometimes if both spots were open, I'd just break it down and use both holes.
When I worked at the airport we had to tow aircraft between the ramp and hangars. The only difference between this and that is we booked up to the front of the truck. Made maneuvering so much easier.
That's how I learned to back semi-trailers.
I have never backed a set of a trains or B trains before. I would love to give it a shot one day. Great video, by the way! Your demo was perfect.
I hauled asphalt with a set of B trains about 1980. B trains were new to everyone at that time. As I recall my training consisted of something like: "Jimmy, your new B train is in the yard. Don't hit nuthin, eh."
Yup, that was about the extent of training back then!
Jim Duce - lmao!
I towed A train doubles for 17 years. I use to back them up on a daily basis into loading docks with other trucks next me, and from a 90 degree angle. A train is harder for sure but still possible.
Thank you for sharing your experience! Happy New Year!
I enjoyed the story about the new guy! Thanks!
Great information. A lot of helpful info given. Thank you
I pull an A train on the Trans Canada between Winnipeg and Calgary. Two 53 foot trailers I have practiced that I can back my B box into a stall. You have to steer your dolly converter like a pup on a B train and use that to steer the B box where you want it to go.
The best trailer configuration out there
You give so much advice every video i learn more & more from you, Keep on trucking sir, that wooden toy truck is so nice👍
Thanks Athony! Take care!
Now I know what is A and B train. Thank you Dave. Great video!
I’m in Michigan and pull both A’s and B’s and I find the A “gravel trains” easier to blindside because we have locking dollies under a turntable rather than a fifth wheel and you learn to feel the resistance the scrubbing tires on the dolly produce which gives you an indication of the approximate angle of your pup to your lead even though you can’t see it. B’s are much smoother to back and produce very little resistance in comparison.
Thanks Dave for all you do..great storie.
Thank you!
You just saved me a bunch of trouble. Today I've gotta back a disc and basket pulled by an IH farm tractor into the shop. Thanks
I’ll be using this on my ATS thanks
We have Canadian style b's here in Michigan. I've had the endorsement for years for big setups perimeter trailers and such for oversized. Just went local about 2 weeks ago got thrown to the wolves and had to load a flatbed set yesterday, ill tell you 20 years in i looked like a rookie trying to back that thing up in the bay after 45 min i paid a Canadian to sit in the passenger seat, and boy did i start to learn
Hey there Big Strapper. Hope you enjoy today's video, on 'How to Back Up a B-Train'. We've had a lot of requests for this skills video so here it is! Do you have any BACKING UP EXPERIENCES you'd care to share????
Over this past summer I was working for a custom harvesting crew so I spent a lot of time hauling combines as well as a-train grain trailers. One of my coworkers was this 19 year old who insisted that, despite his only getting his CDL a week before the summer started, he had been driving trucks since he was 14. He claimed he was so good that he could do a 90 degree dock with an a-train setup so naturally my other coworkers and I decided he should show us. We set up some cones in an empty field and told him to have at it. 30 minutes later he gave up. Then it became a competition to see who could do it and the only person who could was a quiet kid only 18 years old with no CDL. It was incredible the kid did it in one shot and took no more than 2 minutes. He later let us know that back home he would pull double hay wagons and frequently back them into a shed.
Hey very nice video ! Always like your videos very informative and funny, keep up the great work!
Love the story, thank you!
Nice memory ! .. Thanks, Dave, to share with us. ✌️
awesome driver, i remember when i started to learn trailer. thanks
Good advise Dave and another great story... happy new year🤠👍
Happy New Year Ty!
Great video Dave.
I like the story at the end!
Very well explained. I dont haul many sets of B train. Once you understand how this set up is works rest is history 👌👍
It is nice to be able to watch good talent in motion.
Thanks Dave
Thank you Kevin!
When I was pulling double vans in the 1st few mths of my class A driving career, I uncoupled the trailers to dock them. ie what shipper wanted.
Great video Dave!!
Thank you!
Love your videos have helped me very much and look forward to each and everyone of them. Keep up the good work
Thank you!
Dave you forgot that Tim hortons is using b-trains setup. It's all good merry Christmas and happy new year's to you and your family. Drive safe and I really do enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing all of your years of wisdom and expertise with us. Mike Haid
Thanks Mike! I didn't realize Tim's used B-trains!
Excellent video as usual! Hope you have a great start to the new year!
You too Simon, thanks!
Love watching your videos man keep up the good work 10-4!!
Thanks Matt!
I'm subscribing for great information and even better story-telling.
Thanks :D
I’ll be honest. I’m a truck driver in Australia, where pretty much every truck is a b train (or as we call them, b-doubles) and I watched this video thinking it was going to be a laugh. Normally blokes from America (or I’m assuming Canada, in this case) make out like backing up 2 trailers is some great impossible task haha
But no, your video was a straightforward instructional video of pretty much how it’s done. It’s not that hard and you didn’t make out like it was.
Good video 👍
Cheers bud. Gave ya a thumbs up 👍🏻
Awsome advice!
Always love your stories
Thank you!
good video - something I was told early on was to make sure your drives were pointed in the direction you want the back of the unit to go and make small corrections
Great video! Mike did a great job on the toy truck.
Yes he sure did!
Simply amazing
Very very cool. Thanks
Great video Mr. Dave. 👍👏✌👌happy new year. Thx for sharing the tips.
Thank you!
Very nice tip sir , very skillful driver 👍
This video and story was great! Thank you.
Thanks Dave!
HAPPY HAPPY NEWYEAR thank you for all you both do
Hey Timothy! Happy New Year to you!!
Try backing a couple of hay wagons just for fun.
Nice one!!!🎉🎉
awesome thx Dave and Happy New
Happy New Year Kalvin!
Great video, very informative , loved the story at the end !!!!
Thank you sir!
thanx for the video.happy new year to you my friend.cant wait until 2020 and the chance to hear more of your funny stories.
Thanks Kenneth! Happy New Year!
Thank you for the explanation. 👍
Thank you. B doubles in my opinion are the hardest looking trailer set to back up. The local excavation company Elmer's always run them with gravel trains
Try backing a set of doubles this a cake lol great channel
Oddly enough this helped me back my first articulated trailer into a space in Euro Truck Simulator 2.
1:28 I got my class A licence in Ontario on March 24 of 1977, near Sutton. One of the first to acquire this.
I got it driving a 1967 Autocar.
Thank you Dave for another great video. And teaching us how the B train works keep up the great video's. Happy New Year and God Bless
Happy New Year John, and Thanks!
Your welcome
U r a gr8 help. Happy new year.
Happy New Year to you!
Great lesson!
Very funny story!!
The driver version of a pool shark!
Good story. Wish it were still like that now. Happy New Year to both you!
Happy New Year Frodrick!
Nice to listen always