I visited Chancellorsville today, it's no wonder. It is very dense forest with rollings hills. Back then there were even more trees and thickets. I cant imagine the chaos.
The true fault was the attack was set too late on May 2nd. As a result, Stonewall could not push to the extent on which he intended to. He stroke at 5.30 P.M. while he should have launched the offensive at 3 P.M. He rode between his men and the Federals when his party was incorrectly identified as Union Cavalry. Col Barry was heartbroken by the role he played on Jackson's death... I was really impressed by Lang's performance as Stonewall Jackson. The movie was as accurate as the reality.
Well he wanted to strike the flank directly. So he marched another 2 miles. This is why he started 530pm. Howard expected a flanking move that day but as the hours went along he thought it wasn't happening. For all the we know the 530pm was technically the best time to catch union off its guard. And played into its success.
The movie is blatant confederate propaganda. “Accurate”, about as accurate as a blind archer. Possibly the dumbest take I’ve ever read. Great performance, awful and biased writing.
The image at 1:46 is identical as we see in 2:33, with the same trees and the same path. Implicitly, the production used the same spot to film those two different scenes. The first when Jackson rides back toward his men and the second one when the 18th of North Carolina sees them arriving, mistaking them for Federals.
It is. Most Historians agree that the loss of Jackson was the beginning of the end. Because if Lee had Jackson, Gettysburg either never happens or is a Confederate Victory
@@JGrimm52I believe we would have held the high ground (Little Round Top) after day 1 of Gettysburg with Stonewall rather than Ewelle. Entire battle would have been reversed, with the Federals on the offensive. Stonewall and Longstreet together = unstoppable
The Stonewall Brigade really is a cautionary tale: when you train your men to be monsters, so be surprised when they attack you with their overzealousness.
@@tripsaplenty1227 Buddy use your brain. Think of the times again this happened to both sides of the war. Confusion due to the time of day as well as irl there was a fog that obscured the color of the uniform from the Confederate infantryman's point of view and made it look blue like a Union officer's. It wasn't incompetence or overzealousness it was confusion. The same thing happened to Union officers during Anteitem and that was in broad daylight however it was because Union officers were hiding in hay bales so they were covered in a tan color which was also a color worn by the Confederates. In this instance as well it wasn't incompetence it was confusion. You are just saying it was because you most likely think the Confederates were just a bunch of stupid farmers who didn't know their ass from the butt of a gun and were terrible at fighting and were never close to winning at any point in the war. All of that would be wrong of course.
I know that it probably wouldn't have worked but I wonder if the north Carolina troops would have held their fire if someone in Jackson's group would have shouted we surrender
How great is the Lord's justice on a disloyal son of the republic. He didn't die on the field of glory but was shot by his own men. Our Lord has a great sense of humor for those who are disloyal and inhumane. The Lord frustrates the ways of the wicked ( Psalm 146:9)
I think about this a lot. General Lee mentions how his victories are "gods will," as does Jackson. How it is "gods will" that the Union army keeps giving them poor commanders to fight against. Then you have great Confederate Generals like Johnston and Jackson being killed accidentally by their own men. Lee suddenly making poor battlefield decisions like charging his men at the Union center at Gettysburg much like Federals did at Fredricksburg. It's fascinating really, by their own logic it was gods will that they were to lose this war. The Confederacy was destined to fail because it did fail, and it's all because God wanted it that way. Had it not failed, it would have been because God didn't want it to fail. Like, where is the personal accountability there, own your shit, lol. If I run somebody over with my car, I don't think using "it was gods will" as my defense will hold up in court. I disagree with their logic, but by their own logic/beliefs, if God wanted them to succeed, she really dropped the ball.
Je suis belge et fasciné par la guerre de sécession. Mais comment est ce possible que de petits gars à dreadlocks ou cheveux verts fassent déboulonner les statues de tous ces soldats... triste.. Je vous rassure c'est pareil chez nous...😢
If Flanders seceeded from Belgium, erected statues of the secessionists, and you reconquered them, would you keep the statues of secessionists standing afterwards?
I show understanding for both sides, which is why I would neither describe the Yankees nor the Confederates as good or evil. Nevertheless, I am glad that the USA remained united.
My wife’s ancestor was in the 18th NC, he probably helped the union cause more than my ancestors who fought for the union
The 33rd North Carolina was separated from the rest of Lanes brigade and on the OTHER SIDE of Jackson and still they too were fired on. It was chaos
I visited Chancellorsville today, it's no wonder. It is very dense forest with rollings hills. Back then there were even more trees and thickets. I cant imagine the chaos.
General are you hurt badly: Jackson: that tickled!
The true fault was the attack was set too late on May 2nd. As a result, Stonewall could not push to the extent on which he intended to. He stroke at 5.30 P.M. while he should have launched the offensive at 3 P.M. He rode between his men and the Federals when his party was incorrectly identified as Union Cavalry. Col Barry was heartbroken by the role he played on Jackson's death...
I was really impressed by Lang's performance as Stonewall Jackson. The movie was as accurate as the reality.
Well he wanted to strike the flank directly. So he marched another 2 miles. This is why he started 530pm. Howard expected a flanking move that day but as the hours went along he thought it wasn't happening.
For all the we know the 530pm was technically the best time to catch union off its guard. And played into its success.
The movie is blatant confederate propaganda. “Accurate”, about as accurate as a blind archer. Possibly the dumbest take I’ve ever read. Great performance, awful and biased writing.
@@YorkusPorkus757well then you don't have to watch it. We like it, so how about you shut the fuck up and move on?
The image at 1:46 is identical as we see in 2:33, with the same trees and the same path. Implicitly, the production used the same spot to film those two different scenes. The first when Jackson rides back toward his men and the second one when the 18th of North Carolina sees them arriving, mistaking them for Federals.
So many said that this in itself was the true turning point of the war. I guess I am inclined to agree.
It is. Most Historians agree that the loss of Jackson was the beginning of the end. Because if Lee had Jackson, Gettysburg either never happens or is a Confederate Victory
@@JGrimm52I believe we would have held the high ground (Little Round Top) after day 1 of Gettysburg with Stonewall rather than Ewelle. Entire battle would have been reversed, with the Federals on the offensive. Stonewall and Longstreet together = unstoppable
Nice video
Friendly fire isn't so friendly
A bullet is a killing projectile no matter which gun it’s fired from.
The Stonewall Brigade really is a cautionary tale: when you train your men to be monsters, so be surprised when they attack you with their overzealousness.
Stonewall brigade did nothing wrong.
@@alt-monarchist apart from killing their own general yeah sure
It wasn't oversealousness it was confusion happened a lot in warfare back in that time on both sides.
@@declancain2988
It wasn't confusion it was incompetence. They killed their owm general.
@@tripsaplenty1227 Buddy use your brain. Think of the times again this happened to both sides of the war. Confusion due to the time of day as well as irl there was a fog that obscured the color of the uniform from the Confederate infantryman's point of view and made it look blue like a Union officer's. It wasn't incompetence or overzealousness it was confusion. The same thing happened to Union officers during Anteitem and that was in broad daylight however it was because Union officers were hiding in hay bales so they were covered in a tan color which was also a color worn by the Confederates. In this instance as well it wasn't incompetence it was confusion. You are just saying it was because you most likely think the Confederates were just a bunch of stupid farmers who didn't know their ass from the butt of a gun and were terrible at fighting and were never close to winning at any point in the war. All of that would be wrong of course.
10 men of the 19 in Jacksons company were killed as well. Nobody ever mentions them.
The actor who played A.P. Hill in this film, unlike in Gettysburg, looks NOTHING like the man.
Which is funny because I really liked Hill's casting in this movie. I thought the actor did very well, my dad said that too
Based
I know that it probably wouldn't have worked but I wonder if the north Carolina troops would have held their fire if someone in Jackson's group would have shouted we surrender
Confederates weren't like Union Soldiers, they were more blood thirsty
Well Jackson says Robert E lee you have lost your left arm but I have lost my right.
How great is the Lord's justice on a disloyal son of the republic. He didn't die on the field of glory but was shot by his own men. Our Lord has a great sense of humor for those who are disloyal and inhumane.
The Lord frustrates the ways of the wicked ( Psalm 146:9)
I think about this a lot. General Lee mentions how his victories are "gods will," as does Jackson. How it is "gods will" that the Union army keeps giving them poor commanders to fight against. Then you have great Confederate Generals like Johnston and Jackson being killed accidentally by their own men. Lee suddenly making poor battlefield decisions like charging his men at the Union center at Gettysburg much like Federals did at Fredricksburg. It's fascinating really, by their own logic it was gods will that they were to lose this war. The Confederacy was destined to fail because it did fail, and it's all because God wanted it that way. Had it not failed, it would have been because God didn't want it to fail. Like, where is the personal accountability there, own your shit, lol. If I run somebody over with my car, I don't think using "it was gods will" as my defense will hold up in court. I disagree with their logic, but by their own logic/beliefs, if God wanted them to succeed, she really dropped the ball.
Based.
@@andrewrogers3067hell yeah
He was only as "disloyal" as every single one of the revolutionary generals who betrayed sacred oaths to the King. The hypocrisy here is noxious.
And Jackson himself was deeply religious and judgemental. Funny how it's always the "lord's justice" whichever way the tide turns.
2:42 What Union Army divisions are they belong as they open fire to Jackson's team?
A confederate classic!
wdym? Confussion and friendly firing was common place back then.
This was a sad scene
I actually survived!
Seems like you successfully faked your death, General.
Lee could have used you at Gettysburg, specifically at Culp’s Hill on July 1st.
And who said the Confederates never did anything good?
Why do they talk like that?
The Gen Hill actor is SOO bad.
Must be Union Calvary.
Lmao he was team killed by his own men
Je suis belge et fasciné par la guerre de sécession.
Mais comment est ce possible que de petits gars à dreadlocks ou cheveux verts fassent déboulonner les statues de tous ces soldats... triste..
Je vous rassure c'est pareil chez nous...😢
Oui, mais les soldats comme Jackson voulaient la continuation de l'esclavage des Noirs dan le Sud des États-Unis.
If Flanders seceeded from Belgium, erected statues of the secessionists, and you reconquered them, would you keep the statues of secessionists standing afterwards?
Good guys lost
I show understanding for both sides, which is why I would neither describe the Yankees nor the Confederates as good or evil. Nevertheless, I am glad that the USA remained united.
Nah, the Union won, bud. The rebel forces existed to preserve the institution of slavery.
I agree but with you sentiment of honor to both sides but what if the south chooses to leave again we do already have a working blueprint
God wasn't on their side, womp womp
Lmao they weren't the good guys, they ENSLAVED people.