Nick faced the entire cream of the crop at welterweight between 2006-2013, was a Champion in another Major Organization, fought at middleweight and Nate has even said Nick is better.
@@onetumeni2007no it’s not lmao strikeforce is a all time legit top 3 mma promotion and had a lot of fighters come over after being bought out by ufc and would dominate during his time in that promotion he’d become champ with 3 titles defenses and has 3 ufc champs to his resumes that he’s beat, a pride fc champ who at the time when he beat him pride was the top mma promotion and gomi who he beat was their lightweight champ and next to a prime bj penn gomi was the best lightweight in the world and one of the best mma fighters for mutiple years in the 2000s and he beat alot of solid fighters around that too so accomplishment and resume/skill wise it’s nick and it’s not close only thing you can realistically compare is their resumes bc Nate fought so many all time greats and beat multiple of them as well but that’s about all you can compare
Nate is the reason Nick learned to fight, not using it as a counterpoint, it’s just interesting to think about. Nick became a martial artists because he wanted to set a good example for Nate who was getting involved in gang activity, when they were children of course
The crazy long suspension and fine Nick received for weed absolutely robbing him of his UFC career still gets me to this day. And now, the UFC fully supports THC. IMO they owe Nick.
Its saddens me how Nick was robbed from having to complete career. He should be one of the greatest of his generation. Seeing the Nick Diaz vs Frank Shamrock was a passing of the guards for generation and style. Nick Diaz ARMY!!!
Had more spine in my eyes . Just simple fact it’s the better bigger older more experienced harder version of Nate 😂 idk how nobody can handle that mentally
Nick was one of the best fighters in his prime. WEC, IFC, and Strikeforce welterweight champ. Also got robbed for the interm UFC welterweight championship. Honestly an out of shape and broken neck Nick Diaz in his last fight looked better than a lot of contenders
I love Nick, but his last fight against Robbie was baaaaad, so slow and weak. It was pitiful, I actually felt bad for him watching it. Certified legend.
No he did not lol. He looked absolutely terrible and worse than anyone's looked inside a ufc octagon since cm punk and that is no exaggeration. Even if he was injured so are most fighters going into a fight. He just looked outright bad. And while he is a legend, calling him one of the best ever is a huge stretch. There was like a 3 year period where people thought this was the case and it was after he left ufc but before he came back and everyone found out he wasn't really anywhere near the top
Just wanna say that when I first started watching mma Nick was my favorite fighter he inspired me to try martial arts like boxing and bjj cause I wanted to be able to fight like him nick in his prime was a sight to be seen
Nicks career would have been infinitely better if he wasn’t robbed of his prime by USADA. He also fought a bunch of fighters who were juiced and he was just smoking weed.
His BJJ was better than everyone else's though. If the wrestler wasn't as skilled in BJJ as they were wrestling, they were getting chocked out everytime. @Ryan-ix6dt
It’s such an advantage to have a brother. Because you can practice with each other. Most people the only opportunity they have to get better is taking and expensive class. In a bjj class you spend 15 min warming up and cooling down. Each class you only get 15-20 min to actually practice or learn a new technique. 20 min a day isn’t enough to make any significant progress.
@@danielfowler177 That has been my experience as well however it still costs. What Bj Penn did is he had lots of money and just spent all his time at the gym and got really good at BJJ quick.
Nate was a needle mover before that His fight with Benson was not even on PPV they put it on fox and 5m watched it His fight with Maynard was watched by 3m People don't remember
@@snicklesnockle7263 You know even if that were the case, one guy wouldn't mean "everyone" right? That's illogical to come to that conclusion because of the one guy in the podcasts with Joe lol
@@krb0123 Dude!!!! You have NO CLUE. There has been NOTHING. NOTHING even close to what Nick pulled off during those Pride and Strikeforce years. It is fngggg shit of Legend. I know the other fighters etc etc. - I ain't toopid. But what Nick Diaz did during THAT RUN? It's NEVER gonna be replicated. It's OK that you don't agree with me. I ain't trying to convince you. I just feel so privileged to say "I WAS THERE" and "I WITNESSED IT!!!" haha! Good stuff. :o)
@@MrPocketfullOfSteel Actually, I DO have a clue lmao I watched it unfold in real time. The runs that I listed above were superior to Nick's. Case closed.
I think the person who would be the happiest to see this is Nate Diaz. Those brothers are incredible. Incredibly stand up dudes. I absolutely loved hearing Nate talk about his brother. He’d finish some crazy badass fight and say shout out to my brother the best fighter of all time or whatever. I was convinced that the powers that be never really wanted Nate to win because they knew he was gonna run in their faces how big they fucked up the real deal.
Nick was more accomplished as far as championships. But I believe Nate fought tougher competition more consistently in the ufc then nick did in elite xc and strikeforce. But nicks biggest wins were against better guys than Nate’s biggest wins, except for Conor at the time. Nate’s best wins in my opinion were Conner, Cowboy, and Jim Miller I think they were all at their primes. (Primes is just referring to fighting years and performances before and after) then Nate has some big wins vs Michael johnson, guillard, neer and pellegrino. Who were good but just inconsistent. Then there were wins vs pettis, gomi, Maynard, Marcus Davis and tony who I think were all just over the hill when they fought Nate, however Nate too was also older when he fought pettis and tony, and the first fight with gray they were both young in their careers but it doesn’t count as a professional win. The win vs manny gamburyan was a freak injury in a fight that wasn’t really close up to that point. Nates losses however were all to fighters within the top 10 at the time of fighting or at some point in their careers top 5 other than Oishi but that fight was made just because of his brothers win over koji before. Nicks best wins are BJ, Gomi, Daley, and lawler. The fight vs Robbie aged well after 2013, but I believe robbie was a late bloomer while nick was early. Daley had the fight not been for a title I don’t know if it would have been such a big win, and the fights with bj and gomi I think both fighters were still in their primes but the fights with nick changed them both. Some big wins nick had were Chris lytle, Josh neer, Gleason tibau, drew fickett, Scott smith, zaromskis. Who were all tough just inconsistent as well. I would include kj noons and cyborg too but on the lower half of the prestige list noons best win was a cut stoppage over Diaz, and really didn’t have many other big wins. And cyborg was just known mainly for his wife. Then nick has wins over older fighters like shamrock, and sakurai. Nicks fought and lost to some of the best fighter ever But he also has losses to lesser competition. Overall nick fought the bigger names more but also lost most of those fights. Nick at his best was between the shamrock and bj fights, his best performance was against BJ, Daley, or gomi. Nate was at his best between the gomi and Jim Miller fights, his best performances were cowboy, Miller, and Conor. Nate will say nicks better but I think that’s mostly because he’s his brother.
I don't get why Joe is always referring to Gomi as a former pitcher in baseball, like that's his only background. The guy has been training wrestling and Judo since he was 6 years old.
I think Nick was a G, but Nate is really good too. People don’t gift him enough credit. He has beaten some legit monsters. And he went toe to toe with the Champ Leon and almost knocked him out.
Nick was the OG, if newer fans think nate was good and a gangster you need to go watch nick, nate is what he is due to nick, legend in pride, legend in strikeforce and a UFC legend, the BJ penn fight, Lawler 1, joe riggs, shamrock, Silva, Condit, Paul daly, the mans fought the best of the best and stayed true to himself
No way,and that's coming from a Nate Diaz fanatic But Nick went trough strikeforce one of the two,dude was knocking out guys twice his size,getting massive hits,and turning into an arm bar,he was so technically sound combined with that Stockton northern Cali water Nate drinks,he was deadliwr
People that started watching MMA when the UFC started to blow up on main stream social media, you don’t even know who Nick is, his personality or skill😂Nate is a legend man but he’ll even tell you he’s always just wanted to be like his older bro👊🏾
Nick was a legend. FUCKEN Nevada Athletic state committee kept him from fighting during his prime in the UFC just cuz he tested positive for smoking weed. Was suspended for years.
Man Rogan loves an anecdote & will never let an anecdote go. Rogan allows anecdotes to dictate his thoughts moreso than actual competition & results. He truly is our generations John Madden.
I'm a huge Nate Diaz fan and he is my favorite fighter but I aint even disputing that Nick Diaz is better than him. Nick really disciplined Nate in their younger years and Nate idolized Nick really hard. Nick is the reason why Nate is a good fighter and having a strong will to never back down. Nick is definitely a fighting genius but he got alot of inner demons. Nate fights with his instinct which he learned from years of training. If Dana White did not exploit Nate and fed him to older/more experienced fighters, Nate would have had a better fighting record. But at least it made Nate mentally stronger and not take everything too seriously.
At no point in this clip (or during that whole podcast) did Joe ever say ""Nate Diaz is Better Than Nick Diaz". The uploader used the 'blueprint' of stating the opposite of what was said/ implied by Joe as clickbait, knowing it would get him more views. It's not good that so many people seem to miss this or they just don't care enough to say something and they let this kind of bullshit dishonest behavior slide.
Nick was a hell of a fucking fighter, especially in Strikeforce. And he was more suited for the ring or the Strikeforce hexagon as it was harder for guys to circle away. Lots of people didn't wanna fight Paul Daley. I remember Condit pulled out of a fight against him and Paul talked a lot of shit on him for it lol and Nick went in there and took Daley out in 1 round. Daley beat Masvidal too.
Diaz brothers fought for food as youngsters. Came to the gym just cuz they offered them food and did had a lack of it at home.. Talk about motivation. If you stand infront of them in a fight tou are the thing between them and their food.. That is their mentality since they were kids. Beasts. But they’ve got old now. Glory days are over for them. But they are legends full of heart.
Before the Robbie Lawler rematch Nick was only finished once in FORTY (40!) professional fights by TKO (Jeremy Jackson), and that TKO he already fought twice in that same night (old styled tournaments) and we was never submitted. There is not even footage of Nick Diaz tapping ever. I can't believe he is never talked about as one of the GOATs. My top 5 GOAT list is Jon Jones, Nick Diaz, Anderson Silva, GSP, Fedor.
I agree nates hust as tough but nick in his prime had some of the most effettive mma tactics, nates a little more unorthodox but that can sometimes work to work dVantage
U just know that when it’s the mma show 209 joe will have the Diaz brothers and Shane’s gonna wanna be there like tony whenever Joe gets the pro wrestlers on
Nick was definitely the more natural, stronger and meaner fighter... It is a real shame he wasn't in the UFC for longer after his knockout of Robbie Lawler... If anyone truly hates USADA, it is Nick Diaz!
I rock with Rogan but man he always has this “I know more about MMA” aura about him Ik he’s incredibly smart when it comes to mma but everytime I see him talk even with fighters he always has that vibe like “I know more than you stfu and lemme talk rq”
Nick vs Gomi , Nick vs Daley, Nixk vs Cyborg are my favs . That Gomi fight PRIDE 33, Nicks face looked like a pizza supreme as Gomi split his orbital . But Gomi's cardio was awful and Nick just peppered him and wore his ass out . That fight is awesome .
Nick was better in every aspect, just watching both of them fight would tell you that. Nick is faster, more coordinated and more skilled with not only the stamina but would actually push an insane pace. Nate tends to let his opponent dictate the pace for the most part unless he strings them. Nick had more thump on his strikes as well
All due respect to Nate, but Nick's boxing is just on a whole other level. Nick takes his opponents to the deep end and drowns them. Pretty fkn amazing to watch. Definitely in my top 2 best MMA fighters.
Nick was my guy! My pops met him in Garfield NJ doing laundry at the laundrymat we frequent. This was about 11 or 12 years ago. I was still in high school. My father called me out the blue like "Chris, i think your favorite fighter is here at the laundrymat! Hes got cauliflower ear" I partially couldn't believe him, but i was mostly scared to go to the laundry just to ask for a picture. So my pops got a picture with him instead lol I regret never meeting my idol though. I shouldve just grown a pair and walked my ass the 3 minutes it wouldve took to get to the laundrymat.
Nick in his prime was the fucking man!!!!! When I think of the most complete mma fighter, Nick diaz in his prime comes to my mind. However you can't take away the heart of Nate! Nate whooped connor when connor was at the top of his game and everyone seemed to count nate out (besides myself). They are savages and my brother got me signed pairs of Nick and Nate diaz boxing gloves for Christmas! Thanks brother, best Christmas present I've ever gotten! 🔥🔥🔥
Nick's problem was not that he was in the UFC in his "prime", it was that if he was he'd have had to beat prime GSP to become champion. So if he was there he'd have never been champion. I'd also add to that he came back to the UFC from strikeforce still in his prime, and outclassed Penn. But wasn't food enough to beat Condit or GSP. There's levels and being dominant in strikeforce doesn't equate to being dominant in the UFC. But Nick at his best was great and definitely better than any version of Nate. Nick really needed to improve his takedown defence at minimum, but he never did. That big whole would always stop him being truly great. Same for Nate. But that did make them have very entertaining fights.
As much as I hate to admit it, I'd say Joe is right, at least for an experienced weed smoker. Fighting high could be an advantage, I know it helps me focus if I'm working on a project. It's not going to help you physically like steroids would, no muscle building, no quicker recovery.
Nick was better overall but now Nate is better simply because he most likely has more in the tank still than Nick. I dont want Nick to fight again at this point. He's old now for an MMA fighter.
I'll NEVER forgive Carlos Condit for running from Nick Diaz during their "fight." I told so many people I knew that their fight was gonna be insane, and it should've been one of the greatest, but Condit completely ruined it. Carlos Condit's performance in that fight was the beginning of the end of my interest in MMA. I'm just glad that I missed out on that awful manlet McGregor.
Nick faced the entire cream of the crop at welterweight between 2006-2013, was a Champion in another Major Organization, fought at middleweight and Nate has even said Nick is better.
Comings from a younger brother you get your ass kicked a couple of times
5 or 6 ufc fights at most
Nate fought ufc whole career better.
@@onetumeni2007no it’s not lmao strikeforce is a all time legit top 3 mma promotion and had a lot of fighters come over after being bought out by ufc and would dominate during his time in that promotion he’d become champ with 3 titles defenses and has 3 ufc champs to his resumes that he’s beat, a pride fc champ who at the time when he beat him pride was the top mma promotion and gomi who he beat was their lightweight champ and next to a prime bj penn gomi was the best lightweight in the world and one of the best mma fighters for mutiple years in the 2000s and he beat alot of solid fighters around that too so accomplishment and resume/skill wise it’s nick and it’s not close only thing you can realistically compare is their resumes bc Nate fought so many all time greats and beat multiple of them as well but that’s about all you can compare
I can tell all these commenters were born after 2000.
No one was boxing in mma like Nick Diaz....ever
ever?
@@quincylinton9768 name someone
@dorianswartout3423 only other fighter is probably Max
@joshr3331 that's actually a good one
Cap asf
Nick is the reason Nate is good..
Nate is the reason Nick learned to fight, not using it as a counterpoint, it’s just interesting to think about. Nick became a martial artists because he wanted to set a good example for Nate who was getting involved in gang activity, when they were children of course
@@nicolaszamudio8699negative
you have to have a warrior mentality, Nate and Nick both have it.
Nick walked so Nate could run, the only reason he got so popular was because of his brother. I love em both but Nick is by far the better fighter.
Naaah Biden is the reason Nate and Nick are fighting, u need to ask Ben shapiro and Schaub to know that
The crazy long suspension and fine Nick received for weed absolutely robbing him of his UFC career still gets me to this day. And now, the UFC fully supports THC. IMO they owe Nick.
It was the Nevada Athletic Commission. Not the UFC right?
@@RobertELee420you’re correct
That sentence was reduced to 18 months. Nick just got into the party lifestyle dude
@@riseofazrael Sadly i think you are right about that :( What a great period when he was in strikeforce though. I miss those times.
Nah, his suspension was reduced and he CHOSE not to return. Actually Google the timeline
Its saddens me how Nick was robbed from having to complete career. He should be one of the greatest of his generation. Seeing the Nick Diaz vs Frank Shamrock was a passing of the guards for generation and style. Nick Diaz ARMY!!!
He robbed himself got suspended for like 18 months then sat out for like 7 years came back and quit against Robby
i think that first 18 month suspension killed his drive@@benjaminkell3726
@@benjaminkell3726 he partied away those years. Smfh
Becouse he coulden't pay his fine to The commision.
That run in strike force for Nick was unreal he had way better combos than Nate and pushed that pace quicker.
Had more spine in my eyes . Just simple fact it’s the better bigger older more experienced harder version of Nate 😂 idk how nobody can handle that mentally
Nick was one of the best fighters in his prime. WEC, IFC, and Strikeforce welterweight champ. Also got robbed for the interm UFC welterweight championship. Honestly an out of shape and broken neck Nick Diaz in his last fight looked better than a lot of contenders
I love Nick, but his last fight against Robbie was baaaaad, so slow and weak. It was pitiful, I actually felt bad for him watching it. Certified legend.
Watch Nick vs Robbie 1.. that was their prime and only fight that mattered tbh, UFC is scripted now like the WWE.
@@TotallyNoCatcause he had a injury
No he did not lol. He looked absolutely terrible and worse than anyone's looked inside a ufc octagon since cm punk and that is no exaggeration. Even if he was injured so are most fighters going into a fight. He just looked outright bad. And while he is a legend, calling him one of the best ever is a huge stretch. There was like a 3 year period where people thought this was the case and it was after he left ufc but before he came back and everyone found out he wasn't really anywhere near the top
@@TotallyNoCatwell yeah lol no shit he barely trained bcs of injuries, and he STILL didn’t pull out bcs he ain’t no bitch
Nick's bodywork and cardio was a thing of beauty
So many greats after him follow that too give it Colby and other he is a pioneer!!
Just wanna say that when I first started watching mma Nick was my favorite fighter he inspired me to try martial arts like boxing and bjj cause I wanted to be able to fight like him nick in his prime was a sight to be seen
Na Nick is better
Its literally not even close. Nick had way better opponents and way better results.
Was
Yea prime for prime I think Nate would even agree
Way better
Yea fr. Nick was more of a pressure fighter and had beautiful 10 punch combos. Shame they ended his career over something stupid
Nicks career would have been infinitely better if he wasn’t robbed of his prime by USADA. He also fought a bunch of fighters who were juiced and he was just smoking weed.
USADA had nothing to do with the suspension it was the nevada state athletic commission
He ended up only being banned 1 and a half years. He himself took off several years
Nick was one of the best fighters I’ve ever seen in his prime in terms of all round skills
Love the Diaz bros but that’s just incorrect
@@masoncordell9685no it’s not incorrect. He was robbed against condit and only lost to GSP who is the goat.
Hell no! He’s definitely better than Nate but all around skills? Come on the guy had bad wrestling and he doesn’t kick.
@@Disinfo321 he’s not top 20 bro
His BJJ was better than everyone else's though. If the wrestler wasn't as skilled in BJJ as they were wrestling, they were getting chocked out everytime. @Ryan-ix6dt
It’s such an advantage to have a brother. Because you can practice with each other. Most people the only opportunity they have to get better is taking and expensive class. In a bjj class you spend 15 min warming up and cooling down. Each class you only get 15-20 min to actually practice or learn a new technique. 20 min a day isn’t enough to make any significant progress.
lol as a brother getting the shit kicked out of you once a week isn’t necessarily an advantage
Alot of BJJ classes are more like 15-20 minute warmup, like 50 minutes of technique and then 20 minutes of sparring, my classes are anyway.
@@danielfowler177 That has been my experience as well however it still costs. What Bj Penn did is he had lots of money and just spent all his time at the gym and got really good at BJJ quick.
Prime Nick Diaz would dominate all the guys that beat Nate. He would just box them into the living death.
Dana: "nate is not a needle mover, his brother is"
Then the conor fight happened and everyone forgot about nick. Because people only care about drama.
People didn't forget about Nick, even Nate's fans are still referred to as the Nick Diaz army and Nate prefers it that way
@@creasedhorizon8931 Nah. Look at this guy joe is talking to. He just stops talking because he doesn't even know about nick.
Nick got suspended for weed and dropped away for a while.
Nate was a needle mover before that
His fight with Benson was not even on PPV they put it on fox and 5m watched it
His fight with Maynard was watched by 3m
People don't remember
@@snicklesnockle7263 You know even if that were the case, one guy wouldn't mean "everyone" right? That's illogical to come to that conclusion because of the one guy in the podcasts with Joe lol
The greatest run I have ever witnessed in MMA. Dude was Legend!
Better than Andersons, GSP’s, Jon Jones’? I don’t think it comes close
@@krb0123its not the best but its definitely alot of peoples favorites
@@krb0123 Dude!!!! You have NO CLUE. There has been NOTHING. NOTHING even close to what Nick pulled off during those Pride and Strikeforce years.
It is fngggg shit of Legend. I know the other fighters etc etc. - I ain't toopid. But what Nick Diaz did during THAT RUN? It's NEVER gonna be replicated.
It's OK that you don't agree with me. I ain't trying to convince you. I just feel so privileged to say "I WAS THERE" and "I WITNESSED IT!!!" haha! Good stuff. :o)
@@MrPocketfullOfSteel Actually, I DO have a clue lmao I watched it unfold in real time. The runs that I listed above were superior to Nick's. Case closed.
Not even close bro.. Nick was on another level
Nick was beast. Some ppl forgot , most never knew.
I think the person who would be the happiest to see this is Nate Diaz. Those brothers are incredible. Incredibly stand up dudes. I absolutely loved hearing Nate talk about his brother. He’d finish some crazy badass fight and say shout out to my brother the best fighter of all time or whatever. I was convinced that the powers that be never really wanted Nate to win because they knew he was gonna run in their faces how big they fucked up the real deal.
Nick was like mmas “tupac”. How big of an impact he left with such a short career… imagine if he never was suspended..
Short career? What the hell you talking about. The guy fought from 2001 to 2015. That’s 14 years. If you count his last fight. That’s 20 years.
Strange comment....
Difference is Nick's not a ballerina/actor/rapper/wannabe gang member. He's a genuine fighter in and out the cage.
@@jayr3381 *Word.*
❤ poo 😮@@umberto488
I watched the full podcast joe said that nick is better not Nate
Who?
Yea nate says The same thing
Shane looking like my wife when she brings up one of my hobbies kills me 😂
How could they not bring up Nick vs Robby?
We need a Diaz Bros JRE episode asap!
Nick was more accomplished as far as championships. But I believe Nate fought tougher competition more consistently in the ufc then nick did in elite xc and strikeforce. But nicks biggest wins were against better guys than Nate’s biggest wins, except for Conor at the time. Nate’s best wins in my opinion were Conner, Cowboy, and Jim Miller I think they were all at their primes. (Primes is just referring to fighting years and performances before and after) then Nate has some big wins vs Michael johnson, guillard, neer and pellegrino. Who were good but just inconsistent. Then there were wins vs pettis, gomi, Maynard, Marcus Davis and tony who I think were all just over the hill when they fought Nate, however Nate too was also older when he fought pettis and tony, and the first fight with gray they were both young in their careers but it doesn’t count as a professional win. The win vs manny gamburyan was a freak injury in a fight that wasn’t really close up to that point. Nates losses however were all to fighters within the top 10 at the time of fighting or at some point in their careers top 5 other than Oishi but that fight was made just because of his brothers win over koji before. Nicks best wins are BJ, Gomi, Daley, and lawler. The fight vs Robbie aged well after 2013, but I believe robbie was a late bloomer while nick was early. Daley had the fight not been for a title I don’t know if it would have been such a big win, and the fights with bj and gomi I think both fighters were still in their primes but the fights with nick changed them both. Some big wins nick had were Chris lytle, Josh neer, Gleason tibau, drew fickett, Scott smith, zaromskis. Who were all tough just inconsistent as well. I would include kj noons and cyborg too but on the lower half of the prestige list noons best win was a cut stoppage over Diaz, and really didn’t have many other big wins. And cyborg was just known mainly for his wife. Then nick has wins over older fighters like shamrock, and sakurai. Nicks fought and lost to some of the best fighter ever But he also has losses to lesser competition. Overall nick fought the bigger names more but also lost most of those fights. Nick at his best was between the shamrock and bj fights, his best performance was against BJ, Daley, or gomi. Nate was at his best between the gomi and Jim Miller fights, his best performances were cowboy, Miller, and Conor. Nate will say nicks better but I think that’s mostly because he’s his brother.
I stopped reading halfway through but it sounds like you know your sh*t. Sincerely, a casual
@@xgtwb6473 I realized after posting it that I wasted a shit ton of time typing it up last night lol
I ain’t read all that lmao
Bro never watched ufc before
idk man nick fought gsp and silva 2 top 5 ufc fighters ever
I don't get why Joe is always referring to Gomi as a former pitcher in baseball, like that's his only background. The guy has been training wrestling and Judo since he was 6 years old.
Probably because his punching style is influenced by his baseball background
And was rankad no.1 when nick fought him and beat The shiit out of him to off it with a gogoplata
I like how Shane just brought it up to transition into a joke and Joe gave him a whole history lesson😂😂
Nick vs Gomi is the fight i show people when i tnraduce them to MMA.
Introduce *
What a freaking legend
I think Nick was a G, but Nate is really good too. People don’t gift him enough credit. He has beaten some legit monsters. And he went toe to toe with the Champ Leon and almost knocked him out.
Legendary Diaz Brothers they’re solidified in history 💯💪🏻
Nick was the OG, if newer fans think nate was good and a gangster you need to go watch nick, nate is what he is due to nick, legend in pride, legend in strikeforce and a UFC legend, the BJ penn fight, Lawler 1, joe riggs, shamrock, Silva, Condit, Paul daly, the mans fought the best of the best and stayed true to himself
No way,and that's coming from a Nate Diaz fanatic
But Nick went trough strikeforce one of the two,dude was knocking out guys twice his size,getting massive hits,and turning into an arm bar,he was so technically sound combined with that Stockton northern Cali water Nate drinks,he was deadliwr
"They were in a UFC fight" lol
Nick was title challenger/potential champion material. Nate is definitely a bigger draw though.
He was a champion in numerous organisations
Nick’s fight against Cyborg might be my favorite. Hard to say for sure because Nick’s entire run through Strike Force was legendary.
stop it man 😂
1:01 “he’s in the fire right here!”
Joe sounds like Christopher Walken right there 😂
People that started watching MMA when the UFC started to blow up on main stream social media, you don’t even know who Nick is, his personality or skill😂Nate is a legend man but he’ll even tell you he’s always just wanted to be like his older bro👊🏾
Shoulda showed him the Daley fight and changed his life
Forever my favorite fighter.. Nick the reason I still train to this very day..
Nick was a legend. FUCKEN Nevada Athletic state committee kept him from fighting during his prime in the UFC just cuz he tested positive for smoking weed. Was suspended for years.
No Joe Rogan, weed would not help you in a fight
Man Rogan loves an anecdote & will never let an anecdote go. Rogan allows anecdotes to dictate his thoughts moreso than actual competition & results. He truly is our generations John Madden.
His ATTITUDE that's what he has on everybody. 2nd to NONE heart.
I'm a huge Nate Diaz fan and he is my favorite fighter but I aint even disputing that Nick Diaz is better than him. Nick really disciplined Nate in their younger years and Nate idolized Nick really hard. Nick is the reason why Nate is a good fighter and having a strong will to never back down. Nick is definitely a fighting genius but he got alot of inner demons. Nate fights with his instinct which he learned from years of training. If Dana White did not exploit Nate and fed him to older/more experienced fighters, Nate would have had a better fighting record. But at least it made Nate mentally stronger and not take everything too seriously.
Nick is legitimately one of the best welterweights of all time , his resume is insane
At no point in this clip (or during that whole podcast) did Joe ever say ""Nate Diaz is Better Than Nick Diaz". The uploader used the 'blueprint' of stating the opposite of what was said/ implied by Joe as clickbait, knowing it would get him more views. It's not good that so many people seem to miss this or they just don't care enough to say something and they let this kind of bullshit dishonest behavior slide.
shoulda showed Shane the Diaz v Thomas Denny fight. That was a battle.
Nick was a hell of a fucking fighter, especially in Strikeforce. And he was more suited for the ring or the Strikeforce hexagon as it was harder for guys to circle away. Lots of people didn't wanna fight Paul Daley. I remember Condit pulled out of a fight against him and Paul talked a lot of shit on him for it lol and Nick went in there and took Daley out in 1 round. Daley beat Masvidal too.
2 fights I always go back to are Korean Zombie vs Poirier and Rory Macdonald vs Robbie Lawler
Diaz Daley is what made me a Nick fan. Such an insane fight
It would be interesting to see if one of those dudes could make it through buds training.
Diaz brothers fought for food as youngsters. Came to the gym just cuz they offered them food and did had a lack of it at home.. Talk about motivation. If you stand infront of them in a fight tou are the thing between them and their food.. That is their mentality since they were kids. Beasts. But they’ve got old now. Glory days are over for them. But they are legends full of heart.
How weird is it that Pride literally told their fighters to roid up but over turned the Diaz Gomi fight due to weed
Before the Robbie Lawler rematch Nick was only finished once in FORTY (40!) professional fights by TKO (Jeremy Jackson), and that TKO he already fought twice in that same night (old styled tournaments) and we was never submitted. There is not even footage of Nick Diaz tapping ever.
I can't believe he is never talked about as one of the GOATs.
My top 5 GOAT list is Jon Jones, Nick Diaz, Anderson Silva, GSP, Fedor.
Bring them on the show 😊
The Nick D v Paul Daley was so good. Sayin “smile b#tch” touching gloves.
Nick is obviously better but Nate has the best 1 , 2 in the business so clean and quick
Leon was completely dominating nate. It was not a great fight. Joe rogan at it again
Different type of fighters there both badass.
I really hope Nick Diaz knows how appreciated he really is
nick is my favourite ufc fighter ever. I just love his fighting style so much
Imagine those brothers on a landscaping crew…just dominating
i don't understand how the title of the video correlates to the content
I love watching someone discover this greatness for the first time
I agree nates hust as tough but nick in his prime had some of the most effettive mma tactics, nates a little more unorthodox but that can sometimes work to work dVantage
Would love to see Nate Colby now
U just know that when it’s the mma show 209 joe will have the Diaz brothers and Shane’s gonna wanna be there like tony whenever Joe gets the pro wrestlers on
Get diaz boys on podcast dammit
Shane saying "Flicking people off" is so funny
Nick was definitely the more natural, stronger and meaner fighter... It is a real shame he wasn't in the UFC for longer after his knockout of Robbie Lawler... If anyone truly hates USADA, it is Nick Diaz!
Diaz vs shamrock, vs cyborg , vs noons. Vs Daley all bangers man.
Nick was the truth he was an amazing fighter. 👏
I rock with Rogan but man he always has this “I know more about MMA” aura about him
Ik he’s incredibly smart when it comes to mma but everytime I see him talk even with fighters he always has that vibe like “I know more than you stfu and lemme talk rq”
Nick vs Gomi , Nick vs Daley, Nixk vs Cyborg are my favs . That Gomi fight PRIDE 33, Nicks face looked like a pizza supreme as Gomi split his orbital . But Gomi's cardio was awful and Nick just peppered him and wore his ass out . That fight is awesome .
Nick was better in every aspect, just watching both of them fight would tell you that. Nick is faster, more coordinated and more skilled with not only the stamina but would actually push an insane pace. Nate tends to let his opponent dictate the pace for the most part unless he strings them. Nick had more thump on his strikes as well
That y i love The Diaz bros, They will NEVER STOP COMIN'...!! #ImNotSurprised
For new fans go back and watch Nick Diaz in strike force it was incredible
All due respect to Nate, but Nick's boxing is just on a whole other level. Nick takes his opponents to the deep end and drowns them. Pretty fkn amazing to watch.
Definitely in my top 2 best MMA fighters.
“he knocked one of your friends out 😦” 😂
Nick Vs Daly might be the greatest round in MMA history
Nick was my guy! My pops met him in Garfield NJ doing laundry at the laundrymat we frequent. This was about 11 or 12 years ago.
I was still in high school.
My father called me out the blue like "Chris, i think your favorite fighter is here at the laundrymat! Hes got cauliflower ear"
I partially couldn't believe him, but i was mostly scared to go to the laundry just to ask for a picture. So my pops got a picture with him instead lol
I regret never meeting my idol though. I shouldve just grown a pair and walked my ass the 3 minutes it wouldve took to get to the laundrymat.
Shane should watch nate vs cowboy and nate vs Johnson
Nate will always say that nick is better, but they don’t give a shit anyways
Nick in his prime was the fucking man!!!!! When I think of the most complete mma fighter, Nick diaz in his prime comes to my mind. However you can't take away the heart of Nate! Nate whooped connor when connor was at the top of his game and everyone seemed to count nate out (besides myself). They are savages and my brother got me signed pairs of Nick and Nate diaz boxing gloves for Christmas! Thanks brother, best Christmas present I've ever gotten! 🔥🔥🔥
Nick's problem was not that he was in the UFC in his "prime", it was that if he was he'd have had to beat prime GSP to become champion. So if he was there he'd have never been champion. I'd also add to that he came back to the UFC from strikeforce still in his prime, and outclassed Penn. But wasn't food enough to beat Condit or GSP. There's levels and being dominant in strikeforce doesn't equate to being dominant in the UFC. But Nick at his best was great and definitely better than any version of Nate. Nick really needed to improve his takedown defence at minimum, but he never did. That big whole would always stop him being truly great. Same for Nate. But that did make them have very entertaining fights.
There's a reason it's called Nick Diaz Army! Not Nate
Nick and Nate both legends , need more fighters like them.
Literally like literally I literally keep hearing the word literally.
similar resumes and impact. Nate just carried the banner on a bigger stage and coverage.
beat greats but lost to greats.
the best Nick story is winning the Gomi fight and they said he failed the test that bad that he still must have been high during the fight
Favorite Nick fight is the Gomi one. Nobody ever talks about that fight
the title is a misquote 😂
As much as I hate to admit it, I'd say Joe is right, at least for an experienced weed smoker. Fighting high could be an advantage, I know it helps me focus if I'm working on a project. It's not going to help you physically like steroids would, no muscle building, no quicker recovery.
A ufc fighter rabbit hole you want to go down, diego sanchez. Most exciting fights you could watch
I remember when Nick went on his SF run. That Nick would be a tall order.
Nick was better overall but now Nate is better simply because he most likely has more in the tank still than Nick. I dont want Nick to fight again at this point. He's old now for an MMA fighter.
If nick fought in the ufc at the same time nate did (2015 and on) he would be a massive star as well
I'll NEVER forgive Carlos Condit for running from Nick Diaz during their "fight."
I told so many people I knew that their fight was gonna be insane, and it should've been one of the greatest, but Condit completely ruined it.
Carlos Condit's performance in that fight was the beginning of the end of my interest in MMA.
I'm just glad that I missed out on that awful manlet McGregor.