Windsor Casting Plant, (The Old Foundry) - TQE 1994
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- Ford Windsor Casting Plant, TQE Award VHS tape, given to employees of the Windsor Casting Plant for earning a Total Quality of Excellence Award. Windsor Casting operated from 1934 until 2007, earning Ford millions $$$, was located in Windsor Ontario Canada
This video has it all. Mullets, mustaches, Transitions lenses and synth music!!
Responsible mustaches at that!😂
And old school baseball caps 🧢 lol
And around 60 MHz computers.
1993
13:14 No tats here. Nor obnoxious piercings.
This is how you actually make stuff. The first stage of losing it is to outsource production, the second fatal stage is to outsource design. After that you have nothing left.
well actually you do, you have money, if you were a business owner you would get it...if it's 5 bucks to buy it locally and 3 bucks to outsource it? Do you ever buy online to save money or do you buy everything locally? do the math., in my new business I tried to source, produce and get my new idea locally, absolutely no was margin left...hello China? Yeah, now it's a go, if you were me what would you do? Oh boo hoo loss of idea income and future: or do what is just as easy and get it drop shipped from over there? With better quality I might add... Duh, "I'm not fighting for any cause, I'm fighting for myself"
Much of the excessive cost in producing stuff locally is connected to payroll. High wages directly influence end price.
@@williamcoates843 not really, the labor is a factor, but it's taxes and gov't fees, and bs that make the overall costs too high, eliminate them? and lower labor? If you wanna make money you take the lowest input cost possible, unless you are a socialist and believe a business exists to employ people, not make a profit. And we know how that ends.
@@andrefecteau but tharts the short term long term you lose.
@@steveschilling5966 how? do you know what a profit is? Do you know what obsolete is? Do you know what a global economy is? Money is energy, it flows to least resistance, no one cried when I lost my yellow page sales job, or my chemistry job or my other sales jobs...it's just the ebb and flow of the economy, now way around it now, stop complaining and just plug into what is new and the future otherwise be like the steel workers in Ohio who think that will come back someday...wait til there are no cars owned by anyone, not to mention who will cry if they are all electric? Only big oil, and boo hoo, they had a good run but they are like flip phones in an iphone world.
Just imagine the number of new hires who had to watch this on their first day over the years
“...Intend to carry on, long into the future.”
Closed May 29, 2007. What a shame.
Thanks for your service! 351w!
I got one of those in an f250. I love it
Very interesting video. Glad this is preserved and available for viewing here. The engine for my old truck was made at this plant. Absolutely indestructible.
302 or 351
Grew up in Windsor, Remington Park. Much of my family worked within the big three or machine shops supporting them. That city has changed a lot since and not for the better IMHO. I rebuild engines now so I get to play with Windsor cast and forged components often. Love seeing made in Canada and WCP on engine parts and machines. I own quite a few machines manufactured in Canada. Wish we took that kind of pride in our products once again. Make Canada great again!
@Motor1701 ok there bud
@Motor1701 not my problem, bud
Spend 5 minutes in a foundry. Walk out. You'll smell just like it . Tough ,hard, hot work to do. Have nothing but respect for the folks who worked there.
Amen, to make the parts we all know & love for our daily lives & rebuilds.
Amen. I worked in a smaller foundry as a grinder.
I have been working in a foundry and melt shop for 30 years. Still there. She can be hot. Lol
Worked, past tense. Just one of many, many losses.
Just like a refinery then. Incredibly unhealthy place to work. People huffing those fumes all day.
Worked here in the late 70's on the break off floor and B line until the economy took a dump and was laid off. good ol plant #5. They also cast nickel steel blocks here for the NASCAR guys back in the day for guys like Bill Elliot and Junior Johnson.
That’s so cool. I work in a foundry in Indiana. I work the core and shell machines.
Love Windsor engines. I put some gt 40 heads on a 351 with 9.5 compression pistons and a Edelbrock rpm intake and cam. Then put that motor in a 86 thunderbird turbo coupe. What a fun fast street car.
I liked watching this. Worked in several foundrys in the 80s and 90s. Poured iron and then as an electrician for many years. They are all closed now.
So sad for our former great country, now canada is a joke
Sad but the truth is no one owns you a job.
Some people see there employees like kinfolk others like just a resource
Saw many stories on 60 minutes remember two one was a bussness who put greed first
Until a someone caught on to there scam and sent all the data to the FBI ig i remember right
The other was a truly a man of honor our founding fathers and veterans would be proud of.
His factory burnt down or was destroy
He told all his employees to come in and pick up their pay checks for the next two week's
Then it was the next two weeks then the next mouth.
Then he said it's going to take an year to rebuild so come in each pay day and pick up your check
You see he knew most of the people by name and how long they had worked for him.
He all so knew with out all there hard work he would not have a factory to burn.
People like him know there's more to life tha3a dollar.
I think the transition to aluminum blocks for almost everything doomed the plant. Aluminum is a totally different process. Windsor was incredibly optimized for cast iron products, but along with that, totally inflexible for different materials and processes. Too bad because they made some great engines - 289/302/351W plus all those V6’s. The retirees and veterans of the plant have a lot to be proud of.
My 3.8 v6 came from there.
I'd blame NAFTA more than the engine material.
I worked in a foundry for ten years very hard work it wasn't modern in the 80's and hot made me a better person. Justsayin
Ahhh the good old days. When corporations at least acted like they gave a shit about their employees.
AND, payed their FAIR SHARE in taxes like the rest of us peons have been doing forever!!!
Don't be fooled they don't care that much. Lol
they still do sent it to china and India
@@TheOzthewiz No such thing as a "fair share". That's entirely subjective and changes depending on who you talk to. Nobody will ever agree on it either, and I've usually found that the people not paying their "fair share" are the ones making more money than who you're speaking with. Don't forget that the taxes they do pay get passed right down to you, the consumer.
Everyone today laughing at their mulletts back then.
Everyone from back then laughing at our pay checks and standard of living today.
I'd rather have a mullet and a fat wallet. Wait ..... I still have a fat wallet. Problem is. That don't go half as far as it did in the 80s,90s or even a year ago.
My late uncle was an engineering consultant for most of the Ford plants in Windsor. Those ventilation and filtration systems were his designs. his last job before he retired and was bought out by junior partners was the Ford Powerhouse off Cadillac St. he along with some other family connections got me an interview for the Foundry. as a green naive idiot I showed up in a suit for an engineering job but in those days (late 80's) you were told to wear a suit for any interview. the guy that interviewed me did not like me. in fact at 12:41 there he is! His name was Dick. I do admire the workers and what they had to deal with. A very hot dirty place but I know many took pride in their work. Not everyone could work there including me.
And the place isn't even there anymore.
"Eliminated to maintain sustainability and profitability"
See if it’s in China it magically isn’t bad for the environment anymore and is somehow more sustainable.
We were all sold out.
Thank you guys I still love my 351 !
Awesome. Brings back memories of my days in the melting dept
All these men spent the best part of their life manufacturing machines that have now rusted into scrap.
When you think about it, everything we’ve accomplished in our short lives will, in time, also “rust into scrap”. But was hopefully useful for a time, just as these machines were.
I have a 1996 f250 with the Windsor and she still gets down the road!
Ford Windsor v8 engines saved hotrodding in the 80s and early 90s...
89 f150 with a 5.0 Windsor going strong today my thanks to everyone who put work into making it
I worked in the Edison assembly plant and that’s where our 3.0 and 4.0 blocks came from for the Ranger and Mazda B series
Amazing...I miss the 90's lol...👌🏾😁
Strongly committed to the quality of our environment - pullback shot of the cooling pond and slag heap - LOL.
Had a weekend tour there once. Impressive.
I was looking for this kind of video and miracle here it is
The Windsor block was a damned good one
I just graduated high school when this came out 😯 pretty wild to see
My dad will love this video! This is the most educational video I’ve ever seen!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
So would my dad. He could see where they made the engine that blew up on his Ford at 40 K miles. And no warranty either.
Back in the day working in the foundry was the hot job to have.
Pun intended?
Lol
Those were 351 Windsor blocks and V-6 Triton blocks. Both were phased out not long after this vid was shot. The Duratec V-6 and the 4.6 Modular came online in 1996 to 1998. Alot was sanitized in this video. You didn't get to see anything they're not proud of. These huge cast iron foundries were literally hell on earth.
George Pretnick at 4:54 it says 4.6. Maybe they had already converted?
I've never seen or heard of any industry video that showed all the bad that goes on. That wouldn't make sense when the whole purpose of the video is to show what is accomplished there.
Hard work in a shitty environment isn't new and there isn't anyone forcing people to work there, but it IS a way for someone to earn a decent living without having had the opportunity for or benefit of a higher education.
I was given the opportunity to work in stamping engineering because of my background in manufacturing, clean, quiet, comfortable with all the best of computers and software, working directly with Dearborn Tool and Die. When things slowed down I couldn't wait to go back to the plant, away from the politics, back-stabbers, know-it-all do nothing's that steal the credit for other people's ideas or work, away from the bullshit people in that environment. I missed working with my hands as well as my mind, being able to see concrete results of a days work, feeling like I accomplished something at the end of the day.
I've worked over 40yrs in industry, in conditions often just plain usafe, uncomfortable, and miserable but I've made a good living.
The 4.6 came out in 91 and the 2.0 Zeta was like 94.
@@Motor-City-Mike l always felt you had to know someone on the inside to work at the Big 3.
Honda made their first overhead cam engine in 1988 Ford made their first overhead cam 4 cylinder in 1998 .
I enjoyed this video. I’ve worked in chemical manufacturing but I would rather have worked in a place like this if I could.
a fitness center! after picking up 40,000 plus pounds everyday at chrysler, all I could think about was working out!
Mental challenged people don’t need that much exercise. Lee I am coco.
C. F O. Cryfher
I know, right!
you sound like someone living in mom's basement
@@kurtzimmerman1637 boo
Huh u also. This was click bait for me since I work in our ( Chrysler ) casting plant in Kokomo Indiana.
I've made enough horsepower with Windsor engines to split the block smooth in half. Good thing the aftermarket took over. Thank you to the fine people in Wndsor for the years of fun and speeding tickets.
The new modern facility has a 26000 sq.ft. "safe space" for employees with hurt feelings complete with teddy bears ,toasted cheese sandwich's and hot coco
Don’t forget the prayer room and the therapy puppies that come in once a week!
@@tomrogers9467 I got a laugh out your comment Tom thank you
@@tomrogers9467 Prayer? Not in today's corporate culture unless it's non Christian.
Same fate for the Cleveland Casting Plant...
Got a 1991 Windsor 5.0 HO V8 in my garage, great engine
This is Windsor, eh. That's not a mullet, its "hockey hair".
When foundries close industry closes with them.
We need our manufacturing back.
@@VinnyMartello Thousands of beautiful new plants opened under Trump!
@@captainsouth4460 fake 📰, like everything else spewing out of that criminally insane loon's gob. Now we've just gone from one nutter to another equally corrupt goon, but with even less of a brain. 'Murica, hell no.
@@captainsouth4460
WHERE 🤔
@@careysharp8340 Can you spell "sarcasm". Sharp dull?
Just before NAFTA went on turbo-drive
This is a Canadian plant so they probably benefited from NAFTA.
@@ShotgunRocket Not if it's shutdown? Bill Clinton and his cronies were the only ones that benefitted from nafta.
@@interman7715 I went on Wikipedia and it shows that there's still a plant located in Windsor, Ontario. Three, in fact. One of them dedicated to building engines. So they shut it down because Ford didn't need it.
@@ShotgunRocket Thanks I'll check it out and Merry Christmas.
@4:55 everyone is always so gentile the crankshaft lol
Before machining id say there is no issue with damage. After final finishing its a different story.
Come for the castings, stay for the mullets!! 😂
rip 2007. This was recommended to me and thought about visiting in a few years with my Fox Mustang. Found out it was closed down years ago.
It was demolished years ago. It's nothing but a huge gravel lot now.
Look how far computers have come in 25 years!
I think I recognized Windows 2.1, lol. Back in those days I was putting together computers for real estate companies.
“It’s a history we’re proud of, and one we intend to carry on with long into the future” 😂
This video just screams 90's with the music and the transitions that look like slideshow presentations 😂😂
Yep -and now trees are growing through what used to be those factories ....
1:29 Bubbles outside of the trailer park!
thats him lol
Decent
Its canada too lol
Those blocks they make there are pretty much indestructible. A Ford bottom end failure is almost unheard of.
A lot of bottom end failures are usually traced back to lack of lubrication
Wonder why modern ones spin rear main bearing ?
Not on the one my dad had. Defective rod casting - Ford declined warranty. Neither he nor myself ever drove “found on the road dead” again!
Tom Rogers did you have it independently tested to prove a point after warranty knockback ?
Gary Peatling lack of oil pressure or crank not set up properly
I could feel my mullet growing faster while watching this.
Justin Trudeau should work in a foundry for one day to find out what real life is all about.
Ron D No No No! He's see some smoke and nail us all with a "carbon steel" tax every time we buy something out of metal! Little Weasel!
I would be impressed if worked one day in his whole life
Definitely state of the art.
My old man’s 83 f150 he purchased new, had a 351 Windsor. He sold the truck in 2005 with 780,000km. No issues ever, just regular maintenance. Still ran perfectly when he sold it, nice and smooth. Also with the original farmer 4 speed manual that was bullet proof.
Ahh the windsor engine.
Beautiful 🥰✌️✌️✌️
I know why the algorithm brought me here, in the Hoonicorn videos they keep saying Windsor engine!
I have a newfound respect for Ford
But why?
Must be total lack of experience on your part!
Across the Detroit River from me. Looks like they did quality work...and what did it earn them...a closing ?
I like how they have way more technology today. Yet their products are so much worse! Spectacular fail!!!!
Could I perhaps ask what rock you recently crawled out from beneath. Automotive quality today it the highest it's ever been? The average car today (Ford included) will do 200,000 miles with minimal maintenance. Try that in a 70's sled. Some lucky few might make the haul but most will be pushing up rusty daisies at a little over half that.
I have a slant six. Chrysler beat ford a long time ago with quality and endurance. I've heard of a 600hp slant six supposedly too
Total junk these days . New Jeep wrangler steering box's are made in China . Ford Mustang transmission are made in China .
6:25 is he flipping off the camera?
Hehe. Sneaky.
100% he is 🤣👌
Lol how many of us went back to watch that moment lol.
I know right.. worth it though
Yeah he definitely is, that's great 👍 😄
1:15 I couldn't imagine the wait time to pull up a file on that thing.
@MichaelKingsfordGray nooo. You don't know what my real name is.
The engine in my 97 f150 came from this place.
Windsor was pretty good but I prefer Cleveland. 😉
Yeah, those "Cleveland heads" put the "BOSS" in the Boss 302. What a machine! Sure enjoyed that '69 Mustang!
Windsor block for strength, Cleveland heads for power ;)
Go go Australia!
Where is this operation today? PRC?
I think those were 3.8L V6 and 5.0L motors before the Triton motors.
You are correct. The Windsor plant started on the Triton engines a few years later for trucks and some 4.6 engines for the mustang in 99 and later. The Romeo plant focused on modular engines starting in 1991. Pushrod heaven
The engines in my boat....were made in this plant...1978 Ford 351W..
Yes I know...I have old stuff..
We lived not too far away from the plant, on the right day your cars would have dust/sand on them, you could smell the plant too. No one cared, it's were everyone worked. It's all gone now.
KisSINginer and friends made a deal to send everything to China back in the 1970's because white Christian labor unions were getting in too deep into their pockets striking. Labor had no counter move or is still oblivious as to what transacted back then and still in play today. While OPEC builds oil refineries and pipelines for BRICS, North America and Europe are going Green, Gangrene.
@@warntheidiotmasses7114 Well said. ZOG-USA is in a coma and being artificially animated at the top by certain Levantine / Ashcan Nazi dual-citizenship creatures.
All we have left is our Imperial War Machine and that isn't long for this world. When TPTB cast us aside, as they did the USSR, our collapse will make the post-Soviet collapse look like a minor discomfort.
Are those engines in foxbody now ?
At 1:15 I like seeing what looks like a game of solitaire.
Henry Ford would turn over in his grave if he saw what happened to his company.
You can visit him near Joy and Greenfield
I could never work in a factory!
Dude at 13:53 rockin the Canadian Tuxedo eh! 🇨🇦
He was likely the boss. Gotta dress up a bit
And that rockin feathered mullet!
Thing’s that speed dreams are made of. Thanks
At 12:57 NO PROBLEM HERE
I worked in a factory that made sand cores for a gm foundry. Man that was probably the worst job I ever had. 120⁰ + in there everyday all day for minimum wage. Slave labor.
Very well done video. What can’t be conveyed is the heat, fumes, and noise inside of a foundry. I worked at the GM Mallable Iron foundry in Saginaw, Michigan. Absolutely brutal.
You mean $30/hr with excellent benefits?
The Chinese can do the same work for less money. Your great grandfather was proud do this work under much more difficult conditions. If you do not manufacture or farm what can you trade with other countries.?
Unfortunately I am fearful that my grandchildren will not know the same prosperity that I experienced, I am 68 years old.
Omg, I'm a moron. Ford 351 Windsor. Never connected the dots.
Cleveland's rock too...Or is that Cleveland Rocks...? :)
302/5.0 and 3.8 were made there as well.
I had no idea. I knew Chevy Camaro was made there.
It's cool when they use actual industry terms...6:21 Bubbles Tickles the belly of the SPC computer...
Here kitty kitty! Damn it Ricky!
@@blackflagqwerty Alright, Heisenstein!..:)
explains the black sand in the early ford engines casts.
I know this is hot hard work ,my step dad did this and I had two uncle's did this for GM
That dudes hair is AMAZING 13:50
Nice to see that Holden picture!
@@johnrebus1641 thank u
This plant closed in 2007! Too bad, but I'm not surprised.
I'm not surprised they went out of business. The foreign countries would use 100's of Fanuc robots instead of manual. I'm not in favor of them but after a career as a manufacturing engineer and cnc programmer, I can see so many things that allow for errors. We lost our machine industry in the 70's. All gone. I can name So many American machine tool builders that went under as the government did nothing.
You humans are proper smart 🖖
0:53 Model M keyboard spotted ⌨️
Who was it that dumped ask that led into the rivers.
Now show us the Cleveland casting👍
Who would have thought the windsor would be making near 3000hp these days. Such a shame its all gone.
Nothing from Windsor in a 3000 hp motor.
11:12 that feller doesn't look like hes too much fun....
So were 302’s built here as well?
Yes it would have been all Windsor V8's from the 221 to the 351.
Windsor is known for being tops for Ford powertrain...thats why we make v8 engines for F series and Mustang...302, 351, 5.4l & 6.8 v10 Triton, and now 5.0l Coyote and new 7.3 & 6.8l Godzilla...the most important engine for Ford right now
wow even these cheesy songs in this are tagged. rofl what a time to be alive
ken block used a windsor block in the hoonicorn. nuff said. rip 43
One of those IBM PS2 computers looks like one I scrapped to get it off the local county tax rolls.
The computer and software cost 6200 new. So the tax assessor got 2.2 percent each year for owning a 286 computer. So the late 80s PS2 beast cost 136.4 each year in local taxes when new.
Even when it was technically obsolete in the mid 90s the tax man sees an IBM so says it has a long lifetime like a ball typewriter.
So the local taxman also taxes tooling and machinery too.
So often entire industries older machinery is packed up and set overseas to get it off the tax rolls.
If you are a new business local politicians wave a magical wand so doesn't pay taxes for 10 years on machinery. Then when 10 years are up sometimes it gets sent overseas or another state waves a magic wand and the tooling is moved there.
One machine we had was on the tax rolls worth 55k and they said it had a 99 year depreciation. So locally we had to pay 1210 a year on taxes for something that did not have much profit to support it since about obsolete. So you spend weekends cutting it apart to get it off the tax rolls.
Manufacturing is attacked by some in the USA. One should not have to destroy tooling to get it off the tax rolls. Or send it overseas.
So that’s where my 351 came from 🤔😎
I prefer forged cranks!
This week I'll be installing my 351w after a rebuild and a fresh coat of paint. Pretty neat seeing the manufacturing side of the almost long and forgotten side of the blue collar worker as China is picking up where we left off
Bubbles used to work at Ford?
Wow
The new 6.8 Mustang/F150 engine will be made here.
At 1:04 it looks like they're watching Ford Jeopardy on TV
1:30 is that bubbles from trailer park boys? Lmao
I thought the same thing. That looks like Bubbles!
I thought so too. Lol
I thought the same!
I need a crank for my 3.0l
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