Designers talk: OB-X8, and how it came to be.

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  • čas přidán 24. 10. 2022
  • Since it was introduced in May 2022, industry acclaim has been heaped upon OB-X8 as one of the most authentic recreations of a vintage synth ever engineered.
    But what thought process is behind the million design decisions involved in a vintage recreation project like this? In this roundtable style discussion, Tom Oberheim (Founder, Oberheim Electronics), Marcus Ryle (OB-X8 Co-Designer, Oberheim Engineer 1980 - 85), Tony Karavidas (Lead Hardware Engineer Sequential/Oberheim) and the late, great Dave Smith (Founder, Sequential and OB-X8 co-designer), talk through trade-offs, design philosophies, and the overall approach that allowed them to produce this amazing instrument.
    0:31 What is the OB-X8?
    3:44 What gave each OB synth its sound?
    6:12 How do you match to a vintage synth?
    8:25 Why are Page 2 features important?
    9:58 How does OB-X8 differ from the originals?
    12:48 What's coming from Oberheim in the future?
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Komentáře • 109

  • @nisroch
    @nisroch Před rokem +65

    Dave is sorely missed. I said it before but I find it poetic that one of his final acts on this planet was to aid and assist a former professional rival in rebuilding his company and making a new start. The world needs more people like him and Tom.

  • @MilesAwayOfficial
    @MilesAwayOfficial Před rokem +35

    Thank you to the team for building this masterpiece. RIP Dave Smith

  • @keytargirl3894
    @keytargirl3894 Před rokem +4

    All of Oberheim products are top notched just as Dave Smith's. Thank you Dave for helping Tom, you will be sorely missed by us keyboard players. Thank you for helping us create.

  • @scottmcauleysounds
    @scottmcauleysounds Před dnem

    I could just sit in a room and chat with these guys for days! absolute legends. RIP Dave Smith an irreplaceable loss to so many all over the globe, but living on each time every musician plays even a single note on any of the amazing Sequential creations.

  • @TonyAndersonMusic
    @TonyAndersonMusic Před rokem +27

    Thank you to the entire team for building this instrument. We love and appreciate you guys.

  • @SamuelLaflamme
    @SamuelLaflamme Před rokem +9

    Pure Gold! Knowing that Dave Smith will die few weeks after... Incredible that his last project would have been this reunion of genius and legends working together! ❤

  • @scottgentile1663
    @scottgentile1663 Před rokem +6

    Dave was still so passionate. The downside of his passing is he still had so much life left but the upside is he was sharp right up until the end doing what he loved. He was a leader and visionary his entire adult life.

  • @GEOSynths
    @GEOSynths Před rokem +17

    This is great, thanks for putting this out, absolute Legends...miss you Dave.

  • @Strages_Powers
    @Strages_Powers Před rokem +7

    It's so sad when beautiful people pass away from this world. RIP Dave and thank you for all the beautiful instruments you brought into the world.

  • @Steril707
    @Steril707 Před rokem +2

    R.I.P. Dave.
    Loved your passion for your work.

  • @SessionsWithMike
    @SessionsWithMike Před rokem +23

    What a great video! Dave's passing was such a shock and really heart breaking. Still really can't believe it when a video pops up in the feed. You can tell there was so much he still wanted to tap into. So glad to have witnessed his genius and appreciated his creations.

  • @Sam9wilson9
    @Sam9wilson9 Před rokem +2

    This is the prob the best we’re going to ever get from the old team OB retro analog wise; very thankful for the opportunity. So saddened with Dave’s passing, so happy he was at top of his game at departure❤

  • @lovesteersthestars
    @lovesteersthestars Před rokem +7

    Proud owner of OB-X8, thank you Dave, Tom, Marcus and Tony.

  • @synthartist69
    @synthartist69 Před rokem +50

    Breaks my heart that Dave Smith passed away. I wish that Sequential would collaborate with Roland on a faithful reissue of the Jupiter 8. Roland, unfortunately, is probably too arrogant for something like that though. I used to own Chick Corea's OBXA. It still had his stage notes taped to it. I have been lucky to own several actually and an OB8, long before vintage synth prices went through the roof. I will admit, the OBXa was a pain to maintain. Hopefully one day, the OBX8 will be in my future, but it's getting harder and harder to come up with this kind of money for a synthesizer these days. I am so grateful that these great men brought the OBX8 to the market for us. Thank you!

    • @ivanlozano2019
      @ivanlozano2019 Před rokem +3

      "we only look to the future" lol the future is looking at least partially analog now.

    • @F0nkyNinja
      @F0nkyNinja Před rokem +2

      Korg could maybe do it.

    • @synthartist69
      @synthartist69 Před rokem +2

      @@ivanlozano2019 they only look to the future but yet they continue the attempt to copy their vintage sounds..lol

    • @entropybentwhistle
      @entropybentwhistle Před rokem +4

      @@synthartist69 Milking the subscription crowd for iffy digital emulations is more lucrative than re-engineering old hardware and only getting to sell it once.

    • @liambate2301
      @liambate2301 Před rokem +1

      yeah Roland is terrible now. they don't want to make any more analogs as they want to "innovate" but their going in the wrong direction. everyone wants the analogs back but they refuse to. not only that, but all Rolands sound rubbish. I own a fantom 7 and a td11 drum kit and the sounds are barely useable in a mix and there is so much menu diving. May sell it for a montage in the future. such a shame as it was quite expensive.

  • @JimAlfredson
    @JimAlfredson Před rokem +3

    Rest in Peace, Dave Smith. Thank you for everything.

  • @hlcotten6587
    @hlcotten6587 Před rokem +13

    I had an oberheim in the nineties. It was the most organic synthesizer I ever owned. When things turned digital, I sold it later. I have forever regretted that decision. The creator of this instrument, has made a significant contribution to music across the 🌎 world.

  • @kvmoore1
    @kvmoore1 Před rokem +2

    This is a moment in history that will never come again. I would like to buy an OB-X8 one day not only because I would like to own a Oberheim synth (and one of the best, let alone "new"), but also because this is also a synth that represents one of Dave's last collaborative projects (or maybe it actually was the last) with Tom Oberheim. They worked together along with the rest of the Sequential team to build a masterpiece!!!
    THANK YOU!!! for all of your passion, hard work, and dedicatication to make this instrument possible.
    RIP, Dave Smith.

  • @entropybentwhistle
    @entropybentwhistle Před rokem +10

    Darned glad they went the route on the development of this keyboard that they did. This is the synth I fantasized about, where the architecture of the three (four, as Dave points out) great synths were integrated into a one-stop shop. It is indeed pricey, the route that they took, but you can well imagine the great whinging and gnashing of teeth if they had half-assed it instead. They were damned if they did and damned if they didn’t. Better to be yelled at for being too good than too mediocre.

  • @Sam9wilson9
    @Sam9wilson9 Před rokem +2

    While I’m so sad for Dave and his family, seeing him enthusiastic and having fun up to the end truly is priceless. May we all experience the same ❤

  • @BaltimoreReese
    @BaltimoreReese Před 6 měsíci +2

    RIP Dave. We love you.

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 Před 10 měsíci +3

    0:01 Just the sound of this instrument at the start is a miracle.❤

  • @JayKaufman
    @JayKaufman Před rokem +3

    It's beautiful that they were able to capture Dave Smith in on this talking about the last thing he ever worked on (as far as I'm aware). He's sorrily missed in the synth community.

  • @hamsterdunce
    @hamsterdunce Před rokem +9

    I'm excited to see what happens next for Oberheim. Revisiting where you left off with the OB-X8 is like a recap of previous episodes of your favorite TV show. Now that the team is back and ready for more, we'll finally see an amazing evolution.

    • @irife2771
      @irife2771 Před rokem

      I too am eager to see what they come up with!
      Small world off topic thing: I watched your Devil went down to Jupiter video the other day for the first time in over 10 years, still RIPS!

  • @AndyVonal
    @AndyVonal Před rokem +2

    Makes me want to cry... and clap my hands in pure joy. Amazing people who do/did amazing things. Thank You!

  • @SPAZZOID100
    @SPAZZOID100 Před rokem +2

    So bittersweet.....Still cannot believe Dave is no longer with us. The OBX8 is a masterpiece, and I will have one in my studio soon enough.

  • @Wagoo
    @Wagoo Před rokem +2

    Wonderful to see Dave talk one last time. I'm sure he will remain with Sequential and Oberheim's future in spirit.. and long may this great collaboration continue

  • @suga4all
    @suga4all Před 9 měsíci +1

    RIP Dave. What a legend! I saw him 2 weeks before his passing at the SuperBooth in Berlin. It feels so unreal.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac Před rokem +1

    I only met Dave Smith once in 2018 at SuperBooth in Berlin. Really nice and approachable guy. He did so much for the world of music. I am sure he had a good fulfilling life.

  • @davewilk7165
    @davewilk7165 Před 29 dny

    These guys are synth gods....I designed synths back in the 80's using Curtis and SSMT MSI/LSI chips and have so much praise for both companies as they set the standard for turning silicon into music

  • @saifeek
    @saifeek Před rokem +5

    Gutted that Dave isn’t around anymore but so glad that he gave us this masterpiece as a parting gift 💝

  • @retrosound72
    @retrosound72 Před rokem +4

    I love my old OB-X and OBXa. I have both since many years. The imperfection is a kind of beauty. And the synth history. ✨

  • @vaportrails7943
    @vaportrails7943 Před rokem +2

    Dave is greatly missed, and I hope Sequential and Oberheim are able to continue well in his honor. I hope Marcus will stay involved, because it’s hard to imagine anyone more qualified.

  • @the_fifth_wheel
    @the_fifth_wheel Před rokem +2

    It’s great listening too these Gentlemen talking, a real treat. I recently purchased a nearly new Pro 3 that the Sound and Soul of Dave Smith will live on in all the noise I make. Thank you for posting

  • @JimDaneker
    @JimDaneker Před rokem +5

    Fantastic. What a room full of legends. So grateful to on one of these legendary instruments, and support the team who brought it back!

  • @fjfrancois
    @fjfrancois Před rokem +3

    Beautiful video, thank you guys.

  • @Phil-1
    @Phil-1 Před rokem +5

    Lovely conversation. To hear Dave say 'We're just starting' is really poignant.

  • @amulpatel
    @amulpatel Před 7 měsíci +1

    80s legends! Grateful GenX forever

  • @davidreynolds6718
    @davidreynolds6718 Před rokem +1

    To my ear, this instrument sounds lovely and musical. A slight cut above the other high end synths for the most part.

  • @marcoantoniospaventi6699

    Maximum respect for these beautiful people.
    RIP Dave Smith, what a legend!!

  • @aardvarkmindshank
    @aardvarkmindshank Před rokem +2

    Wow, what a truly wonderful discussion and result. This is like watching Greek Gods sat around and discussing the world. Truly awesome impact on the music industry.

    • @therealniksongs
      @therealniksongs Před 3 měsíci

      Great analogy! It was like a peek into Synth Olympus!

  • @DavidComdico
    @DavidComdico Před 6 měsíci +1

    A work of art as well as craftsmanship.

  • @MotorHolmes
    @MotorHolmes Před rokem +1

    What a lovely video with absolute pioneers of the industry showing the passion they’ve had for decades to bring us superb instruments.

  • @maximovvladimir
    @maximovvladimir Před rokem +1

    Absolute admiration for these legends

  • @SynthgodXXX
    @SynthgodXXX Před rokem +5

    Awesome historic conversation! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @merlinoner
    @merlinoner Před 8 měsíci +1

    Those men are part of music history.

  • @galaxiesmerge_original
    @galaxiesmerge_original Před 11 měsíci

    Thank goodness you guys made the OB-X8 *module*. I wanted to buy the OBX8 but have no space left. When the module version came out I got it! It is not as if I *need* another analog synth, it is that I *want* this specific synth and I also have two OB6 modules. If you ever rebuild a Matrix-24 … oops, I mean a Matrix-12 rebuild, count me in. Cheers!

  • @strangeskys
    @strangeskys Před rokem +4

    Great characters, sadly one no longer with us, and wonderful insight. So now to the future.

  • @smokey5100
    @smokey5100 Před rokem +1

    Thanks to everyone for coming together to create this modern day classic... Rest in Peace Dave

  • @derekliljequist1086
    @derekliljequist1086 Před rokem +1

    Very unfortunate with Dave's passing. I'm glad he was able to see the completion of OB-X8 though. I'm very happy with mine and you can tell a lot of passion was poured into it. It's probably the only Synth I own that I'll never sell. I'm looking forward to seeing what the Oberheim crew comes up with next.

  • @enriquebuckner7767
    @enriquebuckner7767 Před rokem +1

    Really cool to see. RIP Dave.

  • @gauthiercanart7690
    @gauthiercanart7690 Před rokem +1

    Waw... we're just starting.... Thank you Dave!

  • @PiloMusicVegas
    @PiloMusicVegas Před 11 měsíci +1

    The Mount Rushmore of Analogue !!

  • @johnmeroney2007
    @johnmeroney2007 Před rokem +3

    I would invest in a spiritual successor/remake of the Xpander.

  • @UniQueWerkx
    @UniQueWerkx Před rokem +3

    So what will it be? Oberential or Seqenhiem? LOL On the one hand I can't wait to see what they've got coming out next! And on the other it's still hard to watch after Dave's passing.

  • @kevinbatchelor9566
    @kevinbatchelor9566 Před rokem +1

    Thanks so much to everyone who poured themselves into making this a reality.

  • @bendrrmusic
    @bendrrmusic Před rokem +2

    This is so great. Thank you for these videos, and to the Oberheim team for making this dream synth come true (even if I can never afford it lol). RIP Dave

  • @peterkeys88
    @peterkeys88 Před rokem +2

    simply wonderful, glad this roundtable was captured

  • @AdamBorseti
    @AdamBorseti Před rokem +1

    I just ordered mine this morning!

  • @MarcasLancaster
    @MarcasLancaster Před rokem +1

    Standing by for the module. Thank you for doing this. RIP Dave Smith.

  • @mrfunkyfunkybeat
    @mrfunkyfunkybeat Před rokem +1

    What a wonderful conversation. It's like being in the room with the legends themselves

  • @sweetdiscretestudio8326
    @sweetdiscretestudio8326 Před rokem +1

    Legends unite, no wonder the result is sublime - Thank you ❤

  • @markaprill6501
    @markaprill6501 Před 3 měsíci

    I have always wanted one these but can only afford one. I can’t decide…which keyboard prophet or Oberheim. It is so cool they are making these things again.

  • @vaportrails7943
    @vaportrails7943 Před rokem

    Please make an SE version with blue stripes. A growing number of people are begging for it.

  • @station2station544
    @station2station544 Před rokem +1

    Awesome watch. I feel like I'm watching a ghost. So enjoyable to see this.

  • @Black_Agent_Seattle
    @Black_Agent_Seattle Před rokem +1

    This was fantastic. I know it's not the most popular of Oberheims, but i think a modern Matrix-6 would be pretty cool!!

    • @twiff3rino28
      @twiff3rino28 Před rokem

      Prophet 08 is pretty much the same thing.

  • @eventualinfinity3862
    @eventualinfinity3862 Před rokem +1

    What a legendary panel. Very exciting to hear you're working on new instruments as well as building on the past. Thank you for all you've done and continue to do for the music community!

  • @VEsound
    @VEsound Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @ajlazarusofficial
    @ajlazarusofficial Před rokem +1

    RIP Dave 🙏🏻

  • @arturocarranza6020
    @arturocarranza6020 Před rokem +1

    Great documentary and I love the sound of the OB-X8! Maybe in the future, will release a new Matrix synth and Oberheim's new digital sample-based subtractive synth. Good job, team!

  • @klstay
    @klstay Před rokem +1

    This was great to see, thanks! I continue to feel a few more dedicated knobs could have made it onto the panel without impacting the aesthetic or ergonomics getting things closer to the interface/workflow perfection of the P5/P10. ( For me the P10 is as close to "essentials only analog poly" perfection as it gets though it is a somewhat different animal) A second pair of outs at this price is the other thing which I think is the other TINY drawback. It is wonderful this synth exists.

  • @pheotus
    @pheotus Před rokem +1

    Amazing piece of kit wish I could afford it 😢

  • @peterldelong
    @peterldelong Před rokem +3

    If you’re in your 60’s, make your doctor schedule a stress test on a treadmill in the hospital. It can save your life.

  • @_alexxon
    @_alexxon Před rokem

    Dreaming about one day I could have one...

  • @TheMilford
    @TheMilford Před rokem

    As soon as our pedals start shipping here at Tronographic again, I plan to order one of these. I own and love my OB-8, with my DSX and my DMX and DX drum machines... I always loved the workflow of the DSX and MMT-8 sequencers (designed by Marcus) and would love to see a modern DSX that can interface with both my vintage OBs as well as modern synths... And obviously, I think we would all love a modern DMX that has the same beloved crunchy low-bit-rate samples, simple filtering, simple interface and tactile feel as well as expanding on these things like the X8 does... with things like programable tuning, filter and sample settings that were only accessible by turning trim pots, or modifying the jumpers and components on the voice cards... It's always refreshing to get away from using the computer or tablet to make music and revisiting these hardware-based instruments really excites me.

  • @jwtubification
    @jwtubification Před rokem

    Love my OB-X8 and I’m ready for that DMX!

  • @CarlArmstrong
    @CarlArmstrong Před rokem +1

    Such a nice piece.

  • @shookmusic
    @shookmusic Před rokem +2

  • @user-cx6oq9pn7m
    @user-cx6oq9pn7m Před rokem +1

    excellent video

  • @user-ql1pc7pi9x
    @user-ql1pc7pi9x Před rokem +1

    I'd love to buy this synth. Too bad it's 9,000 + dollars in my currency (NZD).
    R.I.P Dave Smith

  • @moduley340
    @moduley340 Před rokem

    日本語字幕をありがとうございます。本当にDaveの急逝は残念なことです。
    X8のDesktop versionの発売を期待しています。大きくても構いません。Xpanderも大きかった。

  • @muco007
    @muco007 Před rokem +1

    This, is great!

  • @solomonjenkins9505
    @solomonjenkins9505 Před rokem +1

    RIP Dave Smith

  • @universalvibe72
    @universalvibe72 Před rokem +1

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @scottfrost317
    @scottfrost317 Před rokem +1

    Will we see a rack mount version of the X8??

    • @therealniksongs
      @therealniksongs Před 3 měsíci

      I believe there is now a module although not a "rack mount" per se.

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 Před rokem

    So, what are the oscillators in the OB-X8 … ?! Are they proprietary chips, or do they employ ‘off-the-shelf’ components?

  • @RayyMusik
    @RayyMusik Před rokem +2

    13:00 Matrix-12? Just dreaming …

  • @smartti1970
    @smartti1970 Před rokem +1

    SEM is my favourite ...

  • @ytb917
    @ytb917 Před rokem

    12:51
    matrix 12?
    keep the 12 outputs!

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac Před rokem

    I am willing to sell most of my stuff for an OB-X8, because OB-8&X were always was my dream synths, but for 5600€ you could have added some additional knobs to the panel. This Menu diving "page two" stuff is annoying.

  • @chrollo7102
    @chrollo7102 Před rokem +1

    I’m not crying, you’re crying.

  • @thaexception3406
    @thaexception3406 Před 3 měsíci

    Man!

  • @markus6409
    @markus6409 Před rokem

    Knobed xpander!

  • @MickaLuna
    @MickaLuna Před rokem +4

    Still hard to accept Dave won’t be here…