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  • Step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power!
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    Amazon Studios decided to step up their game a few years ago by spending something like 250 million dollars on the rights to make a Lord of the Rings TV show. And then to make sure it was really good they spent another 750 million on production. So there you have it. One billion dollars! Instant classic, guaranteed! Right? That’s how it works, right?
    The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power definitely raises some questions. Like why is Galadriel so invincible and powerful? What were the odds of her stumbling upon Sauron in the middle of the ocean? Was she really just planning on swimming across an ocean to get home? Are volcanic eruptions not a huge deal? What was with that weird Rube Goldberg set-up at Mordor?
    To answer all these questions, check out the pitch meeting that led to the The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power!
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  • @markcarey67
    @markcarey67 Před rokem +26370

    Watching the pitch meeting rather than the actual show is tight

    • @SmiteThatButton
      @SmiteThatButton Před rokem +461

      So much faster too

    • @capthavic
      @capthavic Před rokem +892

      It's super easy, barely an inconvenience :)

    • @AnitreaSadi
      @AnitreaSadi Před rokem +106

      Hahhahahahahahhahaha!!!!!!!! This comment was great.

    • @masterlinktm
      @masterlinktm Před rokem +239

      A lot of the time the pitch meeting even makes the source not sound as bad. But this time it couldn't help at all.

    • @TheGuyAcrossSpace
      @TheGuyAcrossSpace Před rokem +79

      It sure is sir!

  • @femkev.5245
    @femkev.5245 Před rokem +7375

    "Young and immature" Galadriel is actually the oldest elf in the show, which the writers conveniently seemed to have forgotten in their desires to portray her as an arrogant youth

    • @maxpower3990
      @maxpower3990 Před rokem +1078

      I mean she is only about 5000 years old, saw the birth of the Sun and Moon and spent centuries being mentored by a Mair. An angelic being similar in power and knowledge to Sauron or Gandalf.

    • @claudewinters2091
      @claudewinters2091 Před rokem +267

      @@maxpower3990 That's still a young teen girl in ROP .... Or an old looking dude... I just don't even know .... In order to enjoy the show ... The only recourse was to ignore sense .. and just say ok at everything even when practically everyone survived pyroclastic ash to the face & body ...
      It is but a scratch... After all

    • @NathanSlaymaker
      @NathanSlaymaker Před rokem +257

      @@maxpower3990 And many of the years she grew up in were Valian years, which were Much longer longer than Solar years.

    • @johnmihelis1699
      @johnmihelis1699 Před rokem +170

      Isn't she like, literally, one of the first elves ever created?
      I seem to recall she was one of the Eldar, the first generation of elves created in Vallinor

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Před rokem +11

      Thousands of years old, and still a bratty arrogant teenager... I think the wokies are projecting a lot.

  • @juliawolf156
    @juliawolf156 Před rokem +4372

    So let me get this straight: Guy slams sword into wall which activates a machine to flood an area with water. The machine ends up flooding the tunnels the orks dug. But that also causes a volcano to explode which is the birth of Mordor.
    Are you sure this chain of events wasn't caused by a prehistoric squirrel trying to hide an acorn?

    • @lancecarlisle1749
      @lancecarlisle1749 Před 11 měsíci +551

      When you can compare LOTR to Scrat from Ice Age with any degree of seriousness, you know something's gone horribly wrong with your script.

    • @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
      @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Před 11 měsíci

      @@lancecarlisle1749
      **swats you firmly on the nose**
      NO. This is NOT LOTR. LOTR is the Peter jackson masterpiece. This pile of absolute dribble is Rings of Poop I mean Power, an abomination of Amazons making.

    • @grocksauce7422
      @grocksauce7422 Před 11 měsíci +102

      garbage, isn’t it

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 10 měsíci +88

      The tunnels and trenches dug channeled the water into the molten core (not THE Molten Core, and the fiery Balrog actually lives in a deep crevice among the roots of the Elven power tree), so the explosive evaporation of all that water somehow didn't cool the mountain or made it exhaust steam but made it shoot lava cannon balls and cover the land in an avalanche of fiery dust that Galadriel saw no reason to hide from, and I assumed because of her guilt and wanting to die, but the other villagers didn't matter to her; nothing new there. She even had the same overconfident, self-absorbed copypaste hero face when it happened.
      Oh and air filled with smoke makes one or two people cought once, but most of them are heavy smokers, especially the people with plot armor.
      And the queen was surprise-to-everyone (mostly, later completely) blinded and had to ask when the smoke will pass to shoehorn a lame surprise also pushed along by totally not using your common eye VFX to indicate it but her eyes were clear and crisp all the time and yet for some reason she had cataract symptoms. Because applying eye VFX was either too expensive (ha-ha) or would have ruined that genius surprise scene of her blindness being revealed.

    • @SubjectDelta20
      @SubjectDelta20 Před 10 měsíci +62

      I heard most tree's on earth today we're planted from squirrels burying their nuts and forgetting where they buried them.

  • @All_Good_Things
    @All_Good_Things Před 7 měsíci +1301

    Galadrial jumping off the boat and then planning on swimming 3000 miles in a dress with no food,water or sleep then accidentally bumping into sauron half way across is so absolutely ridiculous that i can't believe someone actually signed off on it and was like yeah that will work

    • @yukie_tn
      @yukie_tn Před 4 měsíci +77

      This was where I knew I was watching something special... specially bad, that is.

    • @Norvik_-ug3ge
      @Norvik_-ug3ge Před 4 měsíci +40

      Galadriel in Quenya literally means Great Blonde Shark Lady 😊

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 Před 4 měsíci +53

      Let's think about it logically.
      Galadriel is a witch.
      🧙‍♀️-->🔥. 🪵-->🔥. Thus, 🧙‍♀️ is made of🪵. 🧙‍♀️~⛵️.
      Thus, Galadriel traversing vast stretches of ocean is logical.

    • @thedude3065
      @thedude3065 Před 3 měsíci +34

      It’s so anti-Tolkien

    • @cosandreas9414
      @cosandreas9414 Před 3 měsíci +2

      So you have an issue with this, but not with magical rings, elves, I big eye in the sky and the fact that Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli ran for three days without stopping when chasing after Merry and Pippin? Wtf?
      Gives a new meaning to selective rage...
      Also Galadriel had a much tougher time reaching middle earth in the first place crossing the Helcaraxe.

  • @Sapeidra
    @Sapeidra Před rokem +6444

    Actually super nice from Amazon to put 1 billion into the show, so that Ryan can put this entertaining 7 minute video together, which is clearly the only and intended purpose of the whole project.

  • @32shumble
    @32shumble Před rokem +5482

    I thought Galadriel was going to turn out to be Sauron. She had all the character traits.

    • @somerandolad
      @somerandolad Před rokem +344

      That would've been a better twist.

    • @wateim3951
      @wateim3951 Před rokem +54

      wait for season 2

    • @rubensoeteman
      @rubensoeteman Před rokem +187

      Sauron being a shapeshifter in the lore, it is definitely possible as an actual twist.

    • @32shumble
      @32shumble Před rokem +223

      @@rubensoeteman Yes, perhaps the real Galadriel will be released from some sort of prison somewhere and turn out not to be a b*****h at all?

    • @Kerbezena
      @Kerbezena Před rokem +12

      That's actually an insult to Annatar / Artano / Aulendil.

  • @derkeheath5172
    @derkeheath5172 Před 7 měsíci +335

    The audacity of a bunch of nobody Hollywood writers literally saying, "Tolkien wasn't a very good writer, so we decided to do our own thing."

    • @handrii2958
      @handrii2958 Před 7 měsíci +45

      Yeah it very outrages, a nobody writers comparing themself to Mr. Tolkien a scholar and professor of English Language and Literature at the prestige Oxford University, with ability to master 14 different languages, and wrote a completly fictional system of languange.

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom Před 20 dny +6

      Not Hollywood writers. Amazon is in Seattle. The show was filmed in New Zealand. Heck, this is the show runners first thing they were ever credited with. It just seems Jeff Bezos was blowing a billion just for funsies.

    • @The_Reductionist
      @The_Reductionist Před 17 dny +2

      They did the same with wheel of time. Its a difference story using the same title and character names.

  • @198EE4
    @198EE4 Před 9 měsíci +849

    “Is she planning to swim back to Middle Earth? Hah hah”
    “Ha. Yeah, that’s the plan.”
    “Oh my god you’re serious.”
    That was fairly close to my reaction when I first watched it.

    • @fullmetalprism5249
      @fullmetalprism5249 Před 7 měsíci +23

      That’s Guyladriel for ya 😂😂😂😂

    • @therotten6152
      @therotten6152 Před 7 měsíci

      Question is, was she trying to commit suicide, or was she just so dim that she thought she'd be able to make it? It's one of the 2, there is no 3rd option. @@fullmetalprism5249

    • @ghyslainabel
      @ghyslainabel Před 7 měsíci +21

      This is why Google had to remove the "swim across the Atlantic ocean" joke from Google Map, Amazon Galadriel was stupid enough to try it.

    • @rogueascendant6611
      @rogueascendant6611 Před 6 měsíci +18

      It was written that swimming from Middle Earth to Valinor and vice versa is not possible.
      During the First and Second Age, no one was dumb enough to do that.
      The distance between the two continents is the same distance of traveling from Spain to New York. Not even the Elves themselves can survive for too long.

    • @TJRymer89
      @TJRymer89 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Whoa whoa whoa!... You *watched* it?

  • @AtlantaGuns
    @AtlantaGuns Před rokem +886

    Sauron telling Celebrimbor to mix metals is like me telling Gordon Ramsay to add salt 🤣

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +81

      Celembrimbor was portrayed as an idiot sandwich though.

    • @vsGoliath96
      @vsGoliath96 Před rokem +50

      Also loving that the elves already had the idea to make the rings before Sauron even showed up.

    • @TurinTuramber
      @TurinTuramber Před rokem +61

      Yes but only if Gordon Ramsay had been a great chef for millennia instead of 20years.

    • @sauros1
      @sauros1 Před rokem +29

      I'm surprised they didn't have galadriel give him the tip instead.

    • @johannesseyfried7933
      @johannesseyfried7933 Před rokem +45

      "Have you tried turning it on and off yet?"

  • @mrcat3493
    @mrcat3493 Před rokem +6558

    Ryan has an uncanny ability to both mock, while giving a completely accurate plot synopsis.

    • @jonathannieves1000
      @jonathannieves1000 Před rokem +323

      Hardly counts as mocking when he's just saying exactly what happened in the show 😂

    • @mrcat3493
      @mrcat3493 Před rokem +173

      @@jonathannieves1000 lol. IKR? This is one of the most spot on and yet hilarious pitch meetings, and he really didn’t do anything. You don’t have to change or embellish a thing.

    • @30noir
      @30noir Před rokem +48

      That's kind of easy nowadays.

    • @S....
      @S.... Před rokem +19

      True, even when it feels like your comment is not well placed, since mocking this particular show is so easy.

    • @reezlaw
      @reezlaw Před rokem +72

      Some plots mock themselves

  • @nikoteardrop4904
    @nikoteardrop4904 Před 9 měsíci +652

    Turning the over 6' tall and ethereally majestic Galadriel into a tiny angry lady is tight!

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Před 7 měsíci +90

      Super easy, barely an incompetence.

    • @david7384
      @david7384 Před 3 měsíci +35

      tiny angry ladies are tight!

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren Před 3 měsíci +6

      I just kinda pretended that she was a different Galadriel the whole time, then it’s fine,

    • @MollyHJohns
      @MollyHJohns Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@MrJimheeren not a different Galadriel. Simply Not-Galadriel.

    • @relrond6111
      @relrond6111 Před 2 měsíci

      She's 6'4

  • @ClaireMarieSpencer
    @ClaireMarieSpencer Před rokem +1237

    "The elves need this stuff or they're gonna die"
    "Why"
    "Because they'll die if they don't get it"
    "Oh, alright."
    I am 1000% sure this exchange actually happened in the real pitch meeting.

    • @jessehamm3573
      @jessehamm3573 Před rokem +27

      I'm 1000% in agreement.

    • @partyboi8773
      @partyboi8773 Před 10 měsíci +56

      That episode was where I decided I just couldn't anymore. Elves, whose immortality and immunity to disease are an absolute pillar of Tolkien's worldbuilding, are dying because someone's Screenwriting 101 class told them they needed CONFLICT AND SUSPENSE, DAMMIT!!! And Mithril is some sort of magical love-child of a Balrog getting jiggy with a tree in a lightning storm--I didn't know metals needed origin stories. Can't wait for the ROP writers to give us the sordid tale of where tin comes from!

    • @Ale-dd3ek
      @Ale-dd3ek Před 9 měsíci +15

      ​@@partyboi8773we could probably write a thesis about why the Mithril plot line Is basically blasphemous 😂

    • @themarsh429
      @themarsh429 Před 7 měsíci

      Are we sure Ryan didn't actually pitch this one himself?

    • @elyaskiritsis3115
      @elyaskiritsis3115 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Technically Elves were dying. But it had nothing to do with mithril. It had to do with the defeat of evil lessening the magic in Middle Earth.
      The longer they live, the more their soul gets frayed and torn.

  • @qjames0077
    @qjames0077 Před rokem +4630

    I've been waiting for this to drop longer than it took for Galadriel to figure out who Halbrand was

  • @forbiddencroisant
    @forbiddencroisant Před rokem +1751

    Randomly finding Sauron in the middle of a giant ocean is apparently super easy, barely an inconvenience.

    • @noctuammagic1260
      @noctuammagic1260 Před rokem +26

      Well same goes for a lot of things in Tolkien. Bilbo falling to the exact place in goblin town where gollum(who happened to be fishing in the exact place of the river where the one ring fell) lives, who happens to have the ring, which happens to have the exact power a burglar like Bilbo will need in the future. Tolkien is full of weird coincidences if you look closely. This is not exclusive to RoP.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +82

      Surviving pyroclastic flows is also super easy, barely an inconvenience. Someone should have told queeny to close her eyes though.

    • @LizardSpork
      @LizardSpork Před rokem +57

      Sauron randomly meeting Galadriel in the middle of the ocean and then eventually being led to the exact set of circumstances he needed to forge the rings is even tighter.

    • @forbiddencroisant
      @forbiddencroisant Před rokem +57

      @@noctuammagic1260 that's fine and all, but what the heck was Galadriel's plan?? Swim across the entire ocean??

    • @monikasuszek3434
      @monikasuszek3434 Před rokem +25

      @@kaltaron1284 too bad the Pompeians didn’t know about that 😢

  • @jessehamm3573
    @jessehamm3573 Před rokem +701

    "Hey, shut up!" is pretty much the only answer the showrunners have for the 8 billion plotholes in this series.

    • @berengustav7714
      @berengustav7714 Před 9 měsíci +15

      Tolkien drew from history because he's an historian,but people piss on him and fantasy as a legit genre because "fantasy should have no Basis in real world,it's for stupid kids."

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 Před 8 měsíci

      And how many bee wholes?

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 Před 4 měsíci +16

      Hey! Don't make fun of the showrunners. Their wikipedia page says they are super accomplished young directors in their mid 40s, known for writing a script for Star Trek: Beyond that was ultimately rejected and their work on a Flash remake that nobody plans to make... 😂😂😂😂
      No, but seriously... One of them is probably Bezos's illegitimate son.

    • @nathanmorgan3647
      @nathanmorgan3647 Před 3 měsíci

      Oh, please, "Shut up" isn't their only answer. They also like to throw out the ol' "you're just an ultra right-wing racist scumbag" too.

  • @SnootchieBootchies27
    @SnootchieBootchies27 Před rokem +922

    Seems like Sauron could have accrued more power by just hanging out with Galadriel and having her tell people that he's in charge now.

    • @xdevantx5870
      @xdevantx5870 Před 11 měsíci +61

      To be fair, Sauron basically does propose that to her and her response is basically "you're evil and you killed my brother" and he's confused and like "That's a problem? Oh well" then drowns her in a river and leaves.

    • @wolfiewoo3371
      @wolfiewoo3371 Před 11 měsíci +34

      @@xdevantx5870 Why didn't he finish the job?

    • @kyfetrombetta3691
      @kyfetrombetta3691 Před 11 měsíci +54

      @@wolfiewoo3371 Season 2 i guess

    • @wolfiewoo3371
      @wolfiewoo3371 Před 11 měsíci +15

      @@kyfetrombetta3691 That's not a good reason.

    • @matthiaswelzel8447
      @matthiaswelzel8447 Před 10 měsíci +50

      ​@@wolfiewoo3371 You misspelled season.

  • @e.1165
    @e.1165 Před rokem +4084

    I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this Pitch Meeting.

    • @ibrahimjaved5574
      @ibrahimjaved5574 Před rokem +107

      Hmmm why shouldn't I watch it again?

    • @phimseto
      @phimseto Před rokem +111

      It is a gift!

    • @makani9004
      @makani9004 Před rokem +72

      There was definitely a tempest in me.

    • @whitegoose2017
      @whitegoose2017 Před rokem +34

      @@makani9004 THERE IS A HURRICANE IN ME THAT WILL STRIP AMAZON BARE

    • @GCEXTREMEMN
      @GCEXTREMEMN Před rokem +85

      In the place of a great movie you will have a horrible tv series, as lame as milk, and you will need to get aaaall the way off my back about its cost

  • @JC35257
    @JC35257 Před rokem +1749

    It pains me that Ryan had to watch the entire season in order to make this video. Such a champion!

    • @MrDavidhastwo
      @MrDavidhastwo Před rokem +98

      Well I mean he got paid to do it. I watched it for free like an idiot. Now I feel ripped off.

    • @coreyw5981
      @coreyw5981 Před rokem +29

      Ugh i did! I just kept on watching hoping something cool would finally happen... And it it just never did.....

    • @LucianDevine
      @LucianDevine Před rokem +62

      @@coreyw5981 It ended. Does that count?

    • @Adrak-Hiano
      @Adrak-Hiano Před rokem +3

      I couldn't..

    • @coreyw5981
      @coreyw5981 Před rokem +4

      @@LucianDevine haha i guess you're right

  • @mashpotatoes3018
    @mashpotatoes3018 Před rokem +1986

    That pitch meeting was SO much better than the actual show.

    • @vipr1142
      @vipr1142 Před rokem +37

      Hah it really was. Actually better written than the series lol

    • @jamesknapp64
      @jamesknapp64 Před rokem +27

      If hes telling the truth of what happens in the show, good God its got to be horrible

    • @sgtGiggsy
      @sgtGiggsy Před rokem +34

      To be factual, about 90% of Pitch Meetings are better than the shows/movies they are about.

    • @pmason6076
      @pmason6076 Před 9 měsíci +8

      A lot more thought went into the writing for sure!

    • @DarrellTurnerJr
      @DarrellTurnerJr Před 9 měsíci +3

      ​@@jamesknapp64he speaks truth

  • @MrSeniorwaffles
    @MrSeniorwaffles Před 8 měsíci +82

    The plot of galadriels being mad about her brother being dead is so dumb, especially since elves don't actually die when they die in middle earth their spirit gets returned to valinor and is eventually given form again. So galadriels brother was probably just chilling in valinor waiting for his sister to come back and see him just to hear she jumped off the boat in the middle of the ocean for some reason

    • @nathanmorgan3647
      @nathanmorgan3647 Před 3 měsíci +20

      Not probably, he literally was fast-tracked to rebirth for his role in saving the man Beren, leading ultimately to Morgoth's downfall and is alive and reunited with his wife in Valinor during this period.

  • @calebford6318
    @calebford6318 Před rokem +2098

    I love the clever passive agressive ways he calls out how much shows/movies suck. He’s great at pointing out how little effort they put into it, and how little they care about the audience or source material.

    • @Aredel
      @Aredel Před rokem +67

      It makes it even funnier in the videos when he blatantly calls out how terrible a movie is.

    • @its_dey_mate
      @its_dey_mate Před rokem +7

      @@NoBody-pw3kf What?

    • @Fuck_handles
      @Fuck_handles Před rokem +73

      @@its_dey_mate I think he means something like the she hulk pitch meating, producer guy said hulk has been through more bad stuff than she-hulk and writer guy said he's on a list now.

    • @BT-su1yf
      @BT-su1yf Před rokem +5

      @@its_dey_mate that was what Amazon and the media were trying to spin: that literally ALL of the criticism of Rings of Power was just racists and misogynists who were upset about the representation in the show. Of course, it’s a bullsh*t claim.

    • @CASPB
      @CASPB Před rokem

      ❤️

  • @peytondoss405
    @peytondoss405 Před rokem +1809

    That quick dismissive “ Hey shut up “ always gets me 😂 😂😂😂

    • @segments2156
      @segments2156 Před rokem +3

      i loved the show, and i loved the pitch meeting... however, the "hey shut up" was misplaced, because there is a good reason why they know exactly where to go... Sauron/Halbrand is with them and he knows Adar's plan.

    • @99baji99
      @99baji99 Před rokem +1

      -no it's not!-

    • @lunamaria1048
      @lunamaria1048 Před rokem +18

      I love the "Actually it's gonna by super easy, barely an inconvenience"😂

    • @Danntheman1776
      @Danntheman1776 Před rokem +2

      @@segments2156 hey shut up

    • @logansaxby7224
      @logansaxby7224 Před rokem +2

      @SEGMENTS how does it feel defending a piece of shit? Cause curious 🤨

  • @caseybv74
    @caseybv74 Před rokem +243

    Me at the start of the season: That's not Gandalf that would be too stupid.
    Me in the middle of the season: Yup this show is dumb enough, that's Gandalf.

    • @vampuricknight1
      @vampuricknight1 Před rokem +45

      Yep, I realized very quickly the writers never even read the silmarillion... In the books, Gandalf comes in on a boat and basically starts off his journey where it ends at the end of lord of the rings, also gets given one of the rings of power over Saruman (a small slight which builds over the centuries and is a slight foreshadowing of their eventual clash in LotR's), both of these things were well written and serves not only as a fair starting point for an important character but works to set the stage for the rest of the story.
      But yeah RoP is dumb enough to ignore all that and go... you know I really liked playing Diablo 3, like REALLY liked it... so anyway I just learned Gandalf was essentially an Angel in Tolkien's lore... wouldn't it be cool if we had him fall from a meteor just like Tyrael in Diablo 3... OMG no one would see that coming! That would be so cool bro... it like subverts expectations and stuff... who doesn't like big explosions! I clapped just thinking about it.

    • @RubyDoobieScoo
      @RubyDoobieScoo Před 9 měsíci +4

      Sounds like they managed to trick one person then.

    • @theonewithoutalife8519
      @theonewithoutalife8519 Před 9 měsíci +5

      I thought that they were trying to make you think that it's gandalf, but than reveal that they're saruman.

    • @JurgenErhard
      @JurgenErhard Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@vampuricknight1IIRC, they didn't have the rights to the Silmarillion, only to the appendices(!) of TLOTR.

    • @aquilamxp6267
      @aquilamxp6267 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@theonewithoutalife8519 that would require the writers to have down the basics of writing. You give them too much credit, sir :)

  • @csgollum
    @csgollum Před 8 měsíci +196

    Usually, it takes Ryan to point out all the oddities, improbabilities, unscientific happenings, and illogical behavior of characters in the movies/TV shows. But with The Rings of Power... I kinda had most of the points covered during and after watching the series. In fact, identifying flaws was super easy... barely an inconvenience.

  • @mtchllBarrett
    @mtchllBarrett Před rokem +1038

    My new hobby is not watching shows that come out and just waiting for them to be done and then watching the pitch meeting to see exactly what I didn't miss

  • @TheeDawson
    @TheeDawson Před rokem +947

    Making Middle Earth feel like a small town where you can just bump into key characters at any point is tight!

    • @rossboedy8456
      @rossboedy8456 Před rokem +47

      bumping randomly to what is obviously the main antagonist in the ocean is tight!

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +34

      You'd have more trouble bumping into the right person you just need at that moment even in a small hamlet. But I guess oceans aren't that big.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Před rokem +8

      Oh god they’re becoming Disney.

    • @TheeDawson
      @TheeDawson Před rokem +23

      @@kaltaron1284 bro Oceans are Famously small

    • @JJJBunney001
      @JJJBunney001 Před rokem +6

      To be fair that's literally all of the books too, it's a bit of a fantasy trope

  • @CristianGarcia
    @CristianGarcia Před rokem +104

    This pitch meeting probably got better views than the actual show.

  • @Galimeer5
    @Galimeer5 Před rokem +238

    That Mordor origin story is so heavy-handed. They couldn't even work in the reveal organically through dialogue.
    They literally -- _literally_ -- spelled it out for the audience because apparently someone using the elven word "mor-dor" in a scene describing the aftermath of the eruption would be too difficult.

    • @EwetoobSucks
      @EwetoobSucks Před rokem +5

      03:56 cheap porn.
      "and then this bad villager dude is going to shove his magical sword into this ruth ginsburg thing which makes a damn volcano go off !"

    • @LuaanTi
      @LuaanTi Před rokem +75

      Not to mention that it kind of kills the whole point with Mordor showing an _industrial_ wasteland. And Isengard (much later) becoming the same thing due to the actions of Saruman, of course. It wasn't created in a single massive disaster, it was decades and centuries of disregard for the environment. But I guess Amazon would hardly push an origin story that says "unrestricted environmental and labour exploitation is bad", would they? :P

    • @dodojesus4529
      @dodojesus4529 Před rokem +10

      ​@@LuaanTi yeah i always assumed mordor being cancer HQ was a result of sauron jacking of into the mountain for decades on end

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Před rokem +5

      @@dodojesus4529nah, it was Galadriel not ending some guys minecraft let’s play.

    • @fab-ian
      @fab-ian Před 8 měsíci +16

      Maybe the Scottish dwarven king could have been killed. "There's been a mordor!"

  • @ValerianMacMillan
    @ValerianMacMillan Před rokem +635

    Another case where the Pitch Meeting is FAR better than the actual show

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Před rokem +24

      I was kinda hoping for a 45 minute deep dive into the comical and amateurish BS, but Ryan and his evil twin don’t deserve the brain damage that would have caused

    • @agingophelia9812
      @agingophelia9812 Před rokem +8

      Order of magnitude better: several million.

    • @addex1236
      @addex1236 Před rokem +7

      Going to be honest as good as this was it's not hard being better than The Rings of Power hell frankly that should be a minimum expectation

    • @helltaker6865
      @helltaker6865 Před rokem +4

      I mean, not that high a bar nowadays, mostly

    • @MegaAndyGG
      @MegaAndyGG Před rokem +4

      Yeah. This is like 10 times better and more entertaining than the actual show. Also much better acting lmfao

  • @thomaslake7978
    @thomaslake7978 Před rokem +789

    As a Tolkien fan, I loved this so much. Galadriel just bumping into Sauron in the middle of the ocean, "obviously being Gandalf is TIGHT." That last one sent me.

    • @miriamweller812
      @miriamweller812 Před rokem +12

      Just being Gandalf is pretty tight, though. Being it obviously is tighty tight.

    • @bigblakboiii
      @bigblakboiii Před rokem +1

      Big Tolkien fan are you? Did you also hate the original trilogy as much as Tolkien would’ve?

    • @HackTeorico
      @HackTeorico Před rokem +6

      Pretty sure that Sauron getting in her way was not an accident.

    • @colingreen5553
      @colingreen5553 Před rokem +7

      @@bigblakboiii What’s your point?

    • @sindri1447
      @sindri1447 Před rokem +35

      @@bigblakboiii the original trilogy was a good adaptation that had the utmost respect for the source material. The changes made were mostly necessary for a cinematic adaptation. Tolkien's work is so insanely detailed and encyclopedic in nature that no film should ever try to 100% follow it as a a script. Books and TV are far from being similar story telling devices. You can't just do a 1:1 mirroring of the two. It doesn't work like that.
      That being said, the show does not respect the source material at all. It seems to utterly despise it. Changing everything on a whim because it suits their modern sensibilities. They don't want to depict Tolkien's world. They want to create their own while taking advantage of Tolkien's good name. They want to easily ride on the coattails of a long gone literary legend.

  • @MarcoAGJ
    @MarcoAGJ Před rokem +182

    The fact that he didn't even cover half of the problems with that show just says a lot.

    • @hoilst265
      @hoilst265 Před 7 měsíci

      The fact that CZcams is clogged with 52-minute-long 6-minute videos...well, I respect Ryan more.

    • @AeridisArt
      @AeridisArt Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@hoilst265 pretty sure OP is making a dig on the show, not Ryan, saying that the show has so many things odd and wrong that Ryan wouldn't be able to fit it in one Pitch Meeting vid.

  • @OctagonalSquare
    @OctagonalSquare Před rokem +386

    Tolkien himself said he left some gaps in the story for others to fill. But then they just didn’t fill the gaps and rewrote the stuff around the gaps

    • @RainAngel111
      @RainAngel111 Před rokem +69

      There was seriously so much they could have done without messing with canon at all.

    • @wilfredoUbatuba
      @wilfredoUbatuba Před rokem +37

      amazon took a giant dump into the gaps

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Před rokem +1

      Yeah but that’s not fun

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Actually it's pronounced Token bro.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 Před 7 měsíci +9

      They even messed up the Rings of Power being created. If there's one thing they can't mess up it's that.

  • @waylander9265
    @waylander9265 Před rokem +1502

    The amount of opportunities to say “super easy barely an inconvenience” this show offers is staggering

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +15

      Probably at least one per episode.

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico Před rokem +69

      - Woah, it's gonna be hard to fail at one of the widest known, most universally loved franchises in history, when we also have the biggest budget ever.
      - Actually...

    • @fredbyoutubing
      @fredbyoutubing Před rokem +2

      A bit like Aragorn just happening to stumble into an army of ghosts that answers only to him because he's wielding a blade that was reforged and given to him right before?

    • @claudewinters2091
      @claudewinters2091 Před rokem +82

      @@fredbyoutubing uhmmm no... The ghost army was known to exist for hundreds of years and only the king to be could summon them. It wasn't accidental or just happened... It was a well known story for the elves, dwarves and Rohirim ... So I don't understand your point

    • @hexcodeff6624
      @hexcodeff6624 Před rokem +6

      @@fredbyoutubing That only counts as one

  • @nathanmays7926
    @nathanmays7926 Před rokem +416

    It’s shocking that in the real world, there are dozens of writers working together for thousands of hours, and not one said “hey maybe this plot line sucks?”

    • @maxweber06
      @maxweber06 Před rokem +105

      I'm sure some did and were promptly fired and slapped with an NDA. The writing staff likely created their own echo chamber.

    • @ZugzugZugzugson
      @ZugzugZugzugson Před rokem +121

      there was in fact a lore guy assisting the writers at the start of the process, but he left the team for "unknown reasons", so either they fired him for constantly telling them their shit can't fly according to the lore or he left the team himself in utter frustration

    • @MollyFC
      @MollyFC Před rokem +13

      Nobody was like "I'm good is the best we can write, really?"

    • @ianpatterson6552
      @ianpatterson6552 Před rokem +25

      @@ZugzugZugzugson Tom Shippey was the gent in question. Renewed Tolkien scholar.

    • @GeraltofRivia22
      @GeraltofRivia22 Před rokem +56

      The two showrunners have never even ran a show before and they got handed the most expensive one ever made. Whoever thought that was a good idea should be fired.

  • @TheMedievalNerd
    @TheMedievalNerd Před rokem +296

    I laughed too much at the "Obviously being Gandalf is tight!"

    • @bad-people6510
      @bad-people6510 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Sauron was equally obvious. And the show was very dependent on every single viewer not having figured it out immediately.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I actually think that isn't Gandalf. it's a misdirect. It's either Saruman or one of the Blue Wizards. It's going to be a twist upon a twist.. that no one will care about.

    • @TheMedievalNerd
      @TheMedievalNerd Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Paulafan5 Considering how virtually every plot in the story up to now were all ham-fisted to some degree. I wouldn't put money on expecting that character to be someone other than Gandalf.
      Some people probably thought that Halbrand wasn't Sauron. I don't think that show should be watched expecting any kind of 'deep mystery'.

    • @samkornrumph8545
      @samkornrumph8545 Před 6 měsíci

      I didn’t even watch past the second episode and I figured out he’s Gandalf. They also changed his backstory because… Hobbits I guess. He wasn’t some space hobo when he arrived in Middle Earth.

  • @TenTonNuke
    @TenTonNuke Před rokem +824

    I consider myself a decent writer and I cannot begin to express how frustrating it is to exist in this time of terrible writers being given amazing opportunities that they didn't earn.

    • @Mrlonefighter
      @Mrlonefighter Před rokem +78

      Amazon had 1 billion dollars, and it feels like they spent like 1 dollar 50 cents on the script. And gave it to a drunk homeless guy, who can't read nor write. But hey, we get another season though, maybe they fix some of the problems

    • @wumpusrat
      @wumpusrat Před rokem +61

      @@Mrlonefighter
      The vast majority of the money for the show went to buying positive press and positive reviews. The script feels like something written by an AI, the costumes were terrible (3d-printed armor, cloth with armor patterns just printed on them -- and in some cases NOT printed on them in parts, looking even sloppier), terrible acting, almost no extras...
      It was a godawful mess.

    • @ivancavar3037
      @ivancavar3037 Před rokem +27

      And you can also call yourself naive for believing that the incompetence that dominates this planet is not by design.

    • @samblack5313
      @samblack5313 Před rokem +34

      You need to update your activist resume, go trans, and pledge your loyalty to critical race theory.

    • @vincelupo8419
      @vincelupo8419 Před 11 měsíci

      @@samblack5313 What would I need to do to impress you then? Buy 3 guns, burn accurate history books, vote for a corrupt businessman, shrug about school shootings, vote yes for genital inspection of kids in high school sports? See? Stereotypes and binary politics are bullshit.

  • @zenocrate4040
    @zenocrate4040 Před rokem +2925

    One of the few decisions I have made in this life that I do not regret was skipping the show and watching Ryan's Pitch Meeting instead.

    • @airixxxx
      @airixxxx Před rokem +79

      Same. I did unfortunately watch the first episode, it was bad on levels I couldn't believe posible.

    • @tylerhonaker2544
      @tylerhonaker2544 Před rokem +16

      Same.

    • @SilentSpeak
      @SilentSpeak Před rokem

      I watched each and every episode in pure blissful awe at hoe royally awfully someone can screw up a legendary property while having access to the biggest budget ever lol.

    • @BearFattfilm
      @BearFattfilm Před rokem +14

      Same.

    • @danielrafferty4108
      @danielrafferty4108 Před rokem +24

      @@airixxxx Yeah, I had to watch the first episode in two stints. Went back to the second part half convincing myself I was being too harsh. Didn't bother with the rest.

  • @gzaf187
    @gzaf187 Před rokem +1268

    When the pitch meeting is 1000x better than the actual show 😂😂😂

    • @Guderian2
      @Guderian2 Před rokem +13

      Well i mean Pitch Meetings are always 1 10/10 so, it will always be better xD

    • @4879daniel
      @4879daniel Před rokem +36

      It convinced me not to bother with the show. Sounds very dull.

    • @thedeepfriar745
      @thedeepfriar745 Před rokem +2

      @@4879daniel no joke the show is straight up fucking stupid

    • @divedweller4295
      @divedweller4295 Před rokem +6

      Oi! Any increase over zero is infinity times.

    • @johndoe8785
      @johndoe8785 Před rokem +35

      @@4879daniel It shouldn't be attributed to anything Tolkien wrote, that's for sure.

  • @vellefabricante7755
    @vellefabricante7755 Před 7 měsíci +66

    It's been over a year since the series premiered, and it still feels like a fresh wound.

    • @vyntarus9618
      @vyntarus9618 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Maybe it's a wound that can only be healed with elvish medicine.

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat Před 2 měsíci +3

      They should've titled it "Rings of Flour". Because the so-called writers on that delirious dumpster fire were as dense as day-old donuts.

  • @The_Mimewar
    @The_Mimewar Před 9 měsíci +56

    It’s sad that the writers and producers didn’t realize they had a GOLDMINE. They treated LOTR like some soap opera.

    • @luthasunspell8365
      @luthasunspell8365 Před 9 měsíci +12

      Not true. Soap operas have at least one likable female and this had none. 😉

    • @The_Mimewar
      @The_Mimewar Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@luthasunspell8365 ouch. But true

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 Před 7 měsíci +5

      They thought it was Game of Thrones and not Lord of the Rings. I think they were making a pg13 GoT type show and forgot that's not LOTR at all.

    • @Droid6689
      @Droid6689 Před 6 měsíci +3

      You are mistaken. The writers and producers knew they had a goldmine.
      This is their best.
      Modern writers are exceedingly incompetent.

    • @AmazingThor
      @AmazingThor Před 25 dny

      They paid a goldmine just to get the rights

  • @Blakblooded
    @Blakblooded Před rokem +1264

    This pitch meeting is likely waaay more concise and logical then the one that actually occurred.

    • @edisontrent618
      @edisontrent618 Před rokem +5

      I don't know, the money laundering and social propaganda seemed to work pretty well. Hollywood mission accomplished.

    • @Skeptic_Tank
      @Skeptic_Tank Před rokem +12

      than*

    • @phealtalk
      @phealtalk Před rokem +2

      the real pitch meeting was "lets kathleen kennedy the shit out of lotr. want to?"

    • @jonnnnniej
      @jonnnnniej Před rokem +6

      The Tolkien Estate actually turned down several ideas from Netflix and Disney iirc

    • @edisontrent618
      @edisontrent618 Před rokem +6

      @@jonnnnniej Wasn't that before Tolkien died? Or perhaps it was afterwards and they were bargaining for more $$$. It certainly wasn't a quality issue, given what was made.

  • @cartucho9658
    @cartucho9658 Před rokem +127

    -She is like " i dont wanna people to know that im blind."So she puts a big red cloth over her eyes
    -Smooth move yeah, that will do it.
    Best line ever

    • @scratthesquirrel5242
      @scratthesquirrel5242 Před rokem +12

      i know when i see someone with a blindfold on my first thought is "wow, that persons eyesight is so good they can see through it"🤣

  • @user-ii9bl6de2j
    @user-ii9bl6de2j Před 7 měsíci +18

    The entire show and everyone involved in it should be cast into Mount Doom.

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 Před 4 měsíci +2

      The problem is that they were, but everyone survived... Somehow...

  • @catherinehubbard1167
    @catherinehubbard1167 Před rokem +61

    Another great take. I have no intention of putting myself through watching the Rings of Power TV series, but now I know the “story.” I continue to be amazed at how the studio execs put no value on a good story, characters, or writing and are willing to dump endless money on brainless projects that have none of them.

  • @driesstvn5397
    @driesstvn5397 Před rokem +369

    “People can’t know I can’t see… So I’m gonna cover up my eyes!!” Brilliant 😅

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +18

      That was really her reasoning for that blindfold? Wow. Guess why it's called "blind"fold... This show...

    • @Lucifronz
      @Lucifronz Před rokem +28

      @@kaltaron1284 Technically she sits up straight and looks forward while having one of her soldiers, a semi-important character, guide her so she can continue to pretend she can see...
      ...but like ten minutes and two scenes later she's not even pretending she isn't blind anymore and it doesn't seem to be making a lick of difference to anyone.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +9

      @@Lucifronz Great, so the show makes a point and immidiately forgets it. Like with the rock crushing contest. Or not being allowed to leave the palace. Or....

    • @gokaury
      @gokaury Před rokem +2

      That sort of thing works with sunglasses, but not a huge red bandana wrapped around your eyes. But at least the showrunners knew that sunglasses didn't exist then.

  • @odiSVM
    @odiSVM Před rokem +353

    i'm 99% sure that's exactly how that pitch meeting went

    • @nathanphillipsgo
      @nathanphillipsgo Před rokem +8

      Ya but they were serious.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +28

      Nah, too much self-reflection and criticism.

    • @YuzuruA
      @YuzuruA Před rokem +2

      i can bet that no bc i dont think they knew the ending

    • @AchedSphinx
      @AchedSphinx Před rokem

      just throw a bunch of money at it, it'll work itself out. pretty crazy the budget for the whole thing is 1 billion buckaroos, I figured rich people would be so skittish about making their money back they'd move to another planet.

    • @rayalbion9637
      @rayalbion9637 Před rokem

      99.999%

  • @tommie7996
    @tommie7996 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Hobbits used to be so wholesome and traditional.

  • @robertdevito5001
    @robertdevito5001 Před rokem +44

    Ryan actually seems mad here, usually he isn’t so up front about calling things dumb.

  • @itsethanbradberry
    @itsethanbradberry Před rokem +3331

    You can really feel the anger from Ryan in this one

    • @raiden1766
      @raiden1766 Před rokem +185

      The sarcastic semi-anger when producer guy talked about pyroclastic flow was 👌

    • @jimh472
      @jimh472 Před rokem +230

      This clown show besmirches an IP that spans generations and practically DEFINED the fantasy genre. So yeah, anger is warranted.

    • @jimgray3346
      @jimgray3346 Před rokem +11

      Sounds like you're just projecting

    • @parmenides2576
      @parmenides2576 Před rokem

      @@jimgray3346 shut up nerd

    • @Laucron
      @Laucron Před rokem

      @@jimgray3346 sounds like you're just dense

  • @snuffclubstudio708
    @snuffclubstudio708 Před rokem +2178

    He explained the ENTIRE plot of 8 hours of show in 6 mins. Speaks volumes 🤣

    • @thehikingcucumber3410
      @thehikingcucumber3410 Před rokem +120

      And all the plot holes

    • @snuffclubstudio708
      @snuffclubstudio708 Před rokem +6

      Absolutely

    • @CPonSound
      @CPonSound Před rokem +41

      LOTR: Magic ring bad, thrown in volcano.
      Just explained the ENTIRE plot of 12 hours of movies/1000+ page book in 6 words. Speaks volumes 🤣

    • @Temuldjin
      @Temuldjin Před rokem +24

      That's the neat part of having incompetent writers...

    • @Lunarcheese72
      @Lunarcheese72 Před rokem +118

      @@CPonSound No young man, that is called a summary. Good try though. Gold Star 🌟 for you!

  • @dbsthumper
    @dbsthumper Před 7 měsíci +10

    this was a $$$$ grab by both Amazon & the current runners of Tolkien Estate pure and simple... with no rights to The Unfinished Tales & The Silmarillion,this is basically VERY EXPENSIVE fan fiction!!! many thanks Ryan,you have provided a great service to all LOTR fans...

    • @thehoerscorral8565
      @thehoerscorral8565 Před 4 měsíci

      I wish more people realized this. The show was 100% a billion dollar money laundering run for almost everyone involved. Bezos probably signed off on it without reading a single script or talking to a single person actually involved in making it, so any real success would have been just a nice side effect that made their use of future seasons for more of the same a lot easier, but either way, plenty of people in the right places got their cut of that billion plus bezosbucks dumped into this mess.
      The fact that despite its abysmal numbers (after the first episode, when people realized what they were in for and abandoned ship) they greenlit additional seasons is all but proof of this. They'll keep churning this along despite nobody watching and letting Amazon get those great hollywood/twitter brownie points for being so diverse and inclusive, and just enough morons will cheer and clap (but then not actually watch the show because, oh right, it's BAAAD) that it's the perfect shield against scrutiny. After all you would have to be racist/sexist/ableist/fatphobic/(other ist and phobe) incels to attack a show with obese black woman as part of the cast!

  • @poulthomas469
    @poulthomas469 Před rokem +72

    I'm surprised studios are not hiring Ryan to listen to their pitches. The quality of Hollywood product would go up substantially if they did.

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Před 7 měsíci +2

      They would have no shows to make.

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat Před 2 měsíci

      Wealthy narcissists NEVER listen to "the peasants". That's why we even have legends like Eyegurr, KK, Bezoz, and that wacky fool who wrote "Robbynnn in Da Hoõd" or whatever it was. I think he called himself "The Director", and that tells ya everything you need to know. 🙄

  • @maartineriksson
    @maartineriksson Před rokem +1942

    The casual "Hey shut up" when pointing out something is just too good! And I gotta say that surviving a pyroclastic flow is pretty impressive, especially if it burns your eyes but NOT your hair.

    • @vsegda723
      @vsegda723 Před rokem +43

      Her eyes not liquefying from the heat is even more impressive

    • @applejuices
      @applejuices Před rokem +91

      @@hungryhippo6259 "because the show, for all its rough spots, is pretty darn good"
      Ya serious? 🤣
      "Miriel's eyes were not burned by the pyroclastic flow, that happened in the next episode." Okay, that's even more stupid though.
      Overall I think if you kind of enjoyed the show, that's fine, but if you actually think the show is 'pretty darn good' you need mental help.

    • @applejuices
      @applejuices Před rokem +39

      @@hungryhippo6259 I'm on my phone right now, so I'm not gonna write an essay. I did not want this to become an argument, i was just stating the truth. When I have the time, i will explain in more detail why it sucks ass, objectively. No, me saying you are in a bad mental spot is not proving the show is good. It's just that you cannot like the show when you're in a good state of mind and not fucked in the head. More on that later.

    • @bryandyke2037
      @bryandyke2037 Před rokem +25

      " I mean, how does she know she's blind forever? A lot of things can make you blind temporarily, including staring into bright lights" "Nope, she's blind forever" "but why? Seems like a stretch " "Look, I'm going to need you to get the hell off my back she's blind forever and she knows it."

    • @booshmcfadden7638
      @booshmcfadden7638 Před rokem

      @@hungryhippo6259 Whoa. You claim people aren't paying attention and then say Sam and Frodo survived Mt. Doom exploding. Maybe you should rewatch, because SAM AND FRODO DIDN'T GET HIT IN THE FACE WITH 2,000 DEGREES OF HOT FIRE AND ASH MOVING AT 200 MPH. Jesus! You crazies and your strawmen.
      This video points out just a few dozen inconsistencies and ridiculous things that absolutely 100% happen in this show, and you brush off this as people not paying attention because it doesn't fit your false narrative. Miriel went blind directly after the blast, that's in the show, that's what they showed us, that's how it happened, it's linear, I've watched it. Your reasoning for calling Martin a liar is that the writers retconned their own show in the next episode, so the previous episode just...doesn't count anymore, or something. I don't know, you make about as much sense as the awful writers. Why are you making excuses for them?
      The scene structure is garbage, the dialog is garbage, the characters are garbage, the writing is garbage, the editing is garbage. This is one of several scenes where the writers either forgot what just happened or didn't care and there's no cohesivity to the barebones idea that this trash claims is a plot.

  • @Bensam123
    @Bensam123 Před rokem +1262

    How many spots in this video he basically could insert 'barely a inconvenience'... yet has to constantly stop himself is mind blowing. Literally right out of the gates with the ice troll.

    • @fumomofumosarum5893
      @fumomofumosarum5893 Před rokem +67

      For this show's Galadriel, everything is super easy and barely an inconvenience. Like leaving a prison cell. Because she's a woman.

    • @EbonMaster
      @EbonMaster Před rokem +35

      @@fumomofumosarum5893 as someone who loves badass female characters its irritating how often they drop the ball on making them badass but not basically invincible/flawless (INB4 "what do yo mean? Her flaw is that she's hot headed!").

    • @nowhereman6360
      @nowhereman6360 Před rokem +7

      Discount Legolas killed an Orc with a stick and fought hand to hand with a tank like orc...

    • @Razor_Crest
      @Razor_Crest Před rokem +26

      @@EbonMaster Powerfull female characters shouldn’t be overly powerful. Otherwise it makes them feel proud, not courageous. Same is true of men. This is part of the reason why I loved The Batman. Right out of of the gate, he’s taking shots at him, depressed, and exhausted. Yet he continues on because he knows it’s the right thing to do. Hollywood shouldn’t treat female characters any differently.

    • @randomhuman97
      @randomhuman97 Před rokem +1

      Haven't watched lord of the rings. Dint care to

  • @truemoviefanatic7199
    @truemoviefanatic7199 Před 9 měsíci +10

    I like how even the Producer Guy was getting frustrated just hearing the beginning of this pitch 😂

  • @C0nstellati0ns
    @C0nstellati0ns Před rokem +16

    What's even more amazing is how fast I forgot about that show.

  • @macrocosmique
    @macrocosmique Před rokem +1399

    The prononciation of Galadriel, Numenor and Morgoth was so funny I wished you continued 😂

    • @godbluffvdgg
      @godbluffvdgg Před rokem +20

      :)..Me too, I wrote a comment wishing he had leaned into it...I was chuckling thinking of him doing the names every time, differently...

    • @ThomeTeque
      @ThomeTeque Před rokem +19

      And now Namorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • @dada13771
      @dada13771 Před rokem +19

      Then he mispronounces Celebrimbor

    • @commandercaptain4664
      @commandercaptain4664 Před rokem

      RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE.

    • @murlocknight1427
      @murlocknight1427 Před rokem +6

      Yeah, Celebrimbor actually hurt.

  • @Fargaust
    @Fargaust Před rokem +1039

    Rings of Power, definitely one of the shows ever made.

    • @ivanhenderson31
      @ivanhenderson31 Před rokem +36

      And it shall go down in...
      ....the FuCkInG gutter!☺

    • @Gredddfe
      @Gredddfe Před rokem +24

      I can definitely confirm my feelings for it.

    • @thibautisserant
      @thibautisserant Před rokem +51

      I mean, we still have to wait for that moment in Season 2 where Galadriel goes "It's ringing time !"
      Hopefully that doesn't get cut.

    • @PhenixRyze
      @PhenixRyze Před rokem +44

      Of all the shows that ever were, this is one of them

    • @amellirizarry9503
      @amellirizarry9503 Před rokem

      it was dogshit

  • @damonallen9726
    @damonallen9726 Před rokem +17

    At a fraction of a fraction of the budget this by far more enjoyable than the actual show.

  • @Will-rl8rs
    @Will-rl8rs Před 2 měsíci +4

    "He's from the matrix movies!" laughed so hard at that

  • @pcguru3096
    @pcguru3096 Před rokem +135

    it never ceases to amaze me how Ryan is able to insert "hey shut up" and continue talking like nothing ever happened

    • @dawnfire82
      @dawnfire82 Před rokem +2

      I like the recently added, "Oh thank God."

  • @emixam6947
    @emixam6947 Před rokem +115

    3:20 "My brain is basically mush at this point" Is basically the only excuse left for the atrocity that was this show

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +19

      But his was mush AFTER writing all those speeches. The real writers had mush for brains right from the very start.

  • @afatalvendetta
    @afatalvendetta Před rokem +21

    "Is she planning to swim back to Middle-Earth?" was essentially my reaction when she jumped off the ship.

    • @partyboi8773
      @partyboi8773 Před rokem +5

      This. And to all the half-wits saying "But elves are superhuman! She could totally do it!"-- the Kinslaying in the Silmarillion took place when one host of elves murdered others to get their ships, in order to cross the ocean to Middle-Earth. Others, including Galadriel, faced extreme hardship and death crossing the icy wastelands of the far north instead, to make the trek. If only someone had just suggested a leisurely ocean-wide swim instead!

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@partyboi8773I’m just imagining the entire host of the Noldor doing a backstroke to Middle Earth as Morgoth stares in confusion from afar.

  • @glorygloryholeallelujah
    @glorygloryholeallelujah Před rokem +30

    I wish we could get a pitch meeting for every episode.
    But I know that would condemn Ryan to watch them all. 😢

  • @ColombianMusclePapi
    @ColombianMusclePapi Před rokem +1454

    " *I AM GOOD* " A line so sweet, so divine, not even JRR Tolkien could dream of conjuring up on paper. 🤣😂

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Před rokem +68

      That’s what the writers have taped on their bathroom mirrors to bolster their sad little no-talent ego’s

    • @jackspicer455
      @jackspicer455 Před rokem +4

      Hahaahah

    • @momon969
      @momon969 Před rokem +76

      Why not rewrite all of Tolkien's work in that style?
      ""We must face the long dark of Moria. Be on your guard. There are older and fouler things than Orcs, in the deep places of the world.""
      =
      "Hole bad, bad hole. Orcs bad too, but bad hole things more bad than bad orcs. Bad."

    • @brandencullinan8886
      @brandencullinan8886 Před rokem +44

      Imagine if the only explanation ever given for Gandalf's coming back was, "Somehow, Gandalf returned!"

    • @OWnIshiiTrolling
      @OWnIshiiTrolling Před rokem +38

      @@momon969 Nah, they should rewrite it as something that sounds wise, but is complete garbage if pondered for more than a few seconds. Something like "rocks sink because they look down, and ships float because they look up." Imagine if they actually put something like that in the series.
      Imagine an actual legal adult writing that in a script.

  • @noControl556
    @noControl556 Před rokem +351

    Accurately described the plot of a whole season in 6mins and really didn't miss anything.

    • @davich_
      @davich_ Před rokem +2

      TBF some of the things he metaphorically shrugged off were actually explained in the series, and the fact he unironically mispronounced Celebrimbor leads me to assume he didn't actually watch the series but rather read reviews and plot synopses. The show isn't as bad as people are trying to make it out to be.

    • @gm9460
      @gm9460 Před rokem +24

      @@davich_ no they weren’t. Not really. And you can’t take a joke can you? The point is that the writers could easily have made that pronunciation mistake in their pitch. It’s actually a very subtle burn on their level of lore knowledge and care about the lore (almost zero)

    • @mynamegothit3825
      @mynamegothit3825 Před rokem +21

      The show was terrible .....
      The dialogue was all rubbish it was so cringe 80% of it was them trying to sound soo deep.....
      A few major problems with the show
      Galdrial jumping into the ocean.... the distance she would need to swim is tremendous and she even says in the show when there saved and shes talking to queen regent "saved us from CERTAIN death"
      She took a volcanic eruption from MOUNT DOOM to the face and remember it forged the 1 ring ..... id like to point out why its ridiculous .... all i need say is ... Pompeii
      She spent so long hunting sauron searching for a symbol and what it meant....then she somehow realized that its literally a map location....
      Also to add to this why the hell does her brother have it stamped all over him?????? If i murdered someone im not gonna draw my place of origin in the flesh...
      Theres so very much more to say but i cant give enough of a crap to even type it as this show is a massive train reck

    • @rhysproudmourne1646
      @rhysproudmourne1646 Před rokem +7

      I just wish he talked about the pointless architect sister or the herbalist lady being an orc slayer for no reason. Both characters that were pointless and would’ve loved mocked. Oh well, perfect summary either way.

    • @benjaminjane93
      @benjaminjane93 Před rokem +5

      @@davich_ Jesus christ. Grow up.

  • @Paulafan5
    @Paulafan5 Před 7 měsíci +9

    I understand that the show would have to compress events and combine them (since they take place over thousands of years in the Second Age) but did they really have to disregard 98% of the lore? They even mess up the forging of the Rings of Power. That's what the show is called and they can't even get that right.

  • @robbinsnest6163
    @robbinsnest6163 Před rokem +31

    Perfectly executed, unlike the show itself! 👌🏻

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Před 7 měsíci

      If only we could execute the show itself.

  • @Markus_Andrew
    @Markus_Andrew Před rokem +356

    One does not simply walk into a Pitch Meeting. Its glass gates are guarded by more than just logos. There is wry humor there that does not sleep. And the great Ryan is ever watchful.

    • @masbox5830
      @masbox5830 Před rokem +4

      🤣🤣Well done Boromir

    • @nathanieldiaz2845
      @nathanieldiaz2845 Před rokem +1

      LMFAO!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Greendalewitch
      @Greendalewitch Před rokem +6

      "I wish there were more Pitch Meetings. I wish Ryan could cover every movie and show I love and hate"
      "So do all that live to see such times but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the Pitch Meetings that are given to us"

  • @buttscarlton1490
    @buttscarlton1490 Před rokem +420

    Not sure what I find more surprising; that Ryan was able to attain the actual security cam footage of this very much real meeting taking place at Amazon Studios OR; that their security cameras are aligned in an identical manner as the pitch meeting CZcams show

    • @LittleGoblinBastard
      @LittleGoblinBastard Před rokem +24

      Cameras convenitently placed in the correct angles are TIGHT

    • @joyamos29
      @joyamos29 Před rokem +1

      Its definitely the latter. No doubt.

    • @ODUBlue
      @ODUBlue Před rokem

      Wowowow. Wow.

  • @lanafonseca5565
    @lanafonseca5565 Před 8 měsíci +7

    The way he derailed the conversation and gave pause after asking if he heard right, that galadriel just happens to run into sauron in the ocean😂

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 Před rokem +11

    This pitch meeting had more quality than the actual show

  • @SuperLuis225
    @SuperLuis225 Před rokem +396

    "So what do ya think?"
    "Well I think... its... its a recognisable brand name!" 😂😂 love it

    • @criticallythinking0
      @criticallythinking0 Před rokem +13

      Isn’t that basically the formula for all movie and tv shows now? Take franchise insert politically correct dialogue at the expensive of quality ruin franchise alienate fan base then blame said fan base.

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Před rokem +3

      @@criticallythinking0 yep, as critical drinker would say, it's been updated for "modern audiences" and now its just spouts things that are all about "THE MESSAGE"

    • @zogwort1522
      @zogwort1522 Před rokem

      ​@@samcochran8203 I don't see what you're talking about. There's nothing political about the South being full of prejudiced and dim-witted peasants and bad guys dressed in white sheets waving torches around instead of, you know, being kinda like North Africa.

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Před rokem

      @@zogwort1522 I've tried to understand how your comment relates to mine, I really tried, but what on earth does that have to do with my comment?
      Why would my comment insinuate that the south shouldn't be a bunch of prejudiced guys in white hoofs, and instead be like north Africa?
      How did you even arrive at that?

    • @zogwort1522
      @zogwort1522 Před rokem

      @@samcochran8203 I'm not insinuating anything, after all, it's well-known that when Tolkien wrote about Middle Earth, he explicitly named the Southlands after the Old South of the US of A, and fashioned orcs after the KKK, hence why they aligned with Saruman "the WHITE". The Showrunners are merely following Tolkien's vision without bias or prejudice.

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 Před rokem +2183

    Realizing that the show you vowed never to watch is even worse than you thought it would be is tight!

    • @mikejunior211
      @mikejunior211 Před rokem +94

      Amazon: Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

    • @terrypankhurst7601
      @terrypankhurst7601 Před rokem +25

      I thought the same while watching this lol

    • @darthrevan4376
      @darthrevan4376 Před rokem +40

      To be fair this pitch meeting gives a nice spin on it, the reality of it is way more nonsensical

    • @xdevantx5870
      @xdevantx5870 Před 11 měsíci +10

      I mean it was OK, better than the Hobbit movies. But there were definitely some serious obvious flaws with it.

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Před 11 měsíci +56

      @@xdevantx5870 Better than the hobbit movies...
      *_Insert J Jonah Jameson laughing meme_*
      *YOU SERIOUS* ?

  • @mygoditsfullofstars9148
    @mygoditsfullofstars9148 Před 9 měsíci +4

    My favorite pitch meeting line is :
    `and then Batman adopts Robin despite the fact that Robin is quite obviously a fully grown adult.`

  • @BogdanBaudis
    @BogdanBaudis Před 8 měsíci +5

    When watching the spoof of the pitch is better than the pitched thing ... Priceless!!!

    • @MaiAolei
      @MaiAolei Před 6 měsíci

      For everything else we have MasterCard!

  • @kuknhead
    @kuknhead Před rokem +1507

    One of the most ruthless Pitch Meetings, and deservedly so. Thanks, Ryan!

    • @conniethesconnie
      @conniethesconnie Před rokem +17

      Was half expecting the pitch dude to make a response about the writing along the lines of "It's being produced by Amazon so it has to be bad enough to make Wheel of Time look good.

    • @kjellbjrnasmo480
      @kjellbjrnasmo480 Před rokem +18

      @@anthonykaitis 🤦‍♂️

    • @NymbusCumulo928
      @NymbusCumulo928 Před rokem +12

      @@anthonykaitis I do hate random token characters thrown into the trailer for marketing purposes, while having no actual impact on the story itself.
      Also helps when they're ugly and unlikable, such as the dwarf queen who . . . doesnt have a beard for some reason.

    • @snichelsticks8653
      @snichelsticks8653 Před rokem +3

      @@NymbusCumulo928 yeah she would be great if THEY ACTUALLY LISTENED TO THE LORE

    • @saar144
      @saar144 Před rokem +7

      And that was even without mentioning the cringiest moments of “ship floats, stone sinks”, “you’ve not seen what I have seen”, “give me the meat and give it to me raw”, and more

  • @claireh1508
    @claireh1508 Před rokem +355

    The 7 minutes of this pitch meeting have more well-executed creativity than the entire season of RoP combined

    • @bingobongo1615
      @bingobongo1615 Před rokem +2

      I dont think they lacked creativity… they lacked a vision on what to tell and the skill to tell it…

    • @ivanvidakovic9222
      @ivanvidakovic9222 Před rokem +10

      @@bingobongo1615 they lacked everthing

    • @iforgot87872
      @iforgot87872 Před rokem +1

      Um, no?

  • @PhobosDynami
    @PhobosDynami Před rokem +6

    One of my favorite gags is when screenwriter thinks he has an amazing twist like the tall guy being Gandalf, but producer guy says it isn't a good twist.

  • @halofly3
    @halofly3 Před rokem +11

    Amazon exec: So your telling me the protagonist who just jumped off a ship on a whim while in the middle of the ocean, just so happens to bump into the one guy she’s looking to kill?
    Writer: Yep!!
    Amazon exec:…. Brilliant! Six seasons and movie!

  • @BrianD0313
    @BrianD0313 Před rokem +494

    I love how even the producer was dumbfounded at how ridiculous some of the things in actual series were.

    • @booshmcfadden7638
      @booshmcfadden7638 Před rokem +55

      "lol, haha, no really, what happens? Oh my God, you're serious."
      Pretty much every scene in the show.

    • @sethstor
      @sethstor Před rokem +1

      Obviously being Gandalf is tight

    • @Jamsaladd
      @Jamsaladd Před rokem

      This your first pitch meeting ?

  • @a.b.2405
    @a.b.2405 Před rokem +120

    I really do not understand how anybody can get past the second episode without falling asleep or getting distracted by a spec of dust in the air.

    • @famedlettuce3497
      @famedlettuce3497 Před rokem +7

      I know! And the plot was so predictable. I only watched the first three episodes, good to see I didn’t miss much

    • @pocosdailymoviememes1257
      @pocosdailymoviememes1257 Před rokem +3

      Yeah I got distracted in the 1st episode there were too many plot lines and characters imo

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Před rokem +4

      I just switched to watching my toenails grow.

    • @a.b.2405
      @a.b.2405 Před rokem

      @@nhmooytis7058 literally! 😭🤣

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Před rokem +1

      @@a.b.2405 I have very fast growing toenails.

  • @haraldschnauzer223
    @haraldschnauzer223 Před rokem +22

    Thank you, this is a great summary of the stupidity and art destruction we had to endure.

  • @guardianofthetoasters2323

    2:15 that cut was perfect

  • @TheSmokingSkull
    @TheSmokingSkull Před rokem +261

    In RoP, Galadriel found out about Sauron and THEN she had Celebrimbor and Elrond finish the rings, knowing completely that it was Sauron's idea to make them into rings the whole time. Like... why wouldn't she just say "hey, the guy I've been chasing thousands of years is the same guy who helped make these rings and is totally up to something" or just give them a heads-up...

    • @GeraltofRivia22
      @GeraltofRivia22 Před rokem +27

      The shows excuse is that this would somehow mean Galadriel conspired with Sauron and thus she can't tell the other for fear of the consequences. That makes no sense though, because they didn't see through his disguise either.

    • @GarageQueen
      @GarageQueen Před rokem +35

      "Like... why wouldn't she just say "hey, the guy I've been chasing thousands of years is the same guy who helped make these rings and is totally up to something" or just give them a heads-up..."
      "So that the show can happen!"
      "Works for me!"

    • @Darhhaall
      @Darhhaall Před rokem +7

      This is not that bad - three elven rings are not corrupted by Sauron, I mean in the books, and they are pretty powerful an important for them. Other rings Sauron made later were the problem.

    • @TheSmokingSkull
      @TheSmokingSkull Před rokem +9

      @@GarageQueen Lol, even from that standpoint of "well obviously characters have to make stupid decisions so the show can happen", you can still tell a good story and not have every character act like a moron. The Galadriel of RoP hates Sauron SO much that there is absolutely no way she wouldn't tell the others about his involvement with the rings.
      I mean, she refused Sauron's offer but still let his plan come to fruition. It basically makes Galadriel out to be massively hypocritical and trying to grab power for herself, which would actually be an interesting plot point of season 2 IF they went that way, but the showrunners seem completely invested in excusing everything Galadriel does/says in season 1. I mean, she literally threatens to torture prisoners of war, kill and depose rulers, threatens to shank officials in back alleys, threatens her own soldiers, etc etc. The only way the show can redeem her is if she actually stops her genocidal quest of killing every single Orc/Uruk and admitting she was wrong, but that would include putting up her sword and actually becoming like, well, Galadriel from LotR (we still haven'tseen a single use of magic from RoP Galadriel), who is more of a pacifist, and I highly doubt the showrumners would *ever* do that.

    • @TheSmokingSkull
      @TheSmokingSkull Před rokem +10

      @@Darhhaall The issue is, the other rings, rings for the Dwarves and Men, were made FIRST (with some assistance from Sauron) and afterwards, the rings for the Elves were made. In the original lore *and* movies, the Elves made their rings without Sauron, but used his techniques, so the rings still had the secret backdoor Sauron had in them so the One Ring could influence them. It's like the showrumners just watched the opening of Fellowship and thought "oh, the rings for the elves were made first, then dwarves, then men, and Sauron personally helped make all of them!", and went from there.

  • @theonebman7581
    @theonebman7581 Před rokem +313

    Watching Pitch Meetings for shows I'll never even care enough to even consider bothering watching, to the point these videos are actually the very first time in my life I've ever even seen their titles, is TIGHT!

  • @larkermouse
    @larkermouse Před 9 měsíci +10

    Just finished reading the Silmarillion, and now decided to watch this pitch meeting to know roughly how the show shapes up. Seems it doesn't!

  • @vullnetdyla
    @vullnetdyla Před 4 měsíci +5

    I wanna see a full version of this pitch meeting where Ryan pronounces every name of every character or place like that: Galadrriæl, Noomenourrrrr, Morrrrgoth, Saourron
    It’s my favorite part of this pitch meeting 😂

  • @doinkindonut
    @doinkindonut Před rokem +501

    A 2 hour long version of this pitch meeting I would have gladly watched all the way through

    • @yisroel6
      @yisroel6 Před rokem +20

      Sorry to disappoint, but there isn't much more story to include. He covered just about everything from the 8+ hours into 6 minutes.

    • @Aerogrow
      @Aerogrow Před rokem +5

      @@yisroel6 lol.... basically.

    • @Mitch19222
      @Mitch19222 Před rokem +1

      Watch Thelittleplatoon's review

    • @doinkindonut
      @doinkindonut Před rokem +1

      @@Mitch19222 Hahah yea, I watched it all xD was good stuff

  • @kageshira
    @kageshira Před rokem +276

    "So this Sauron dude, why is he famous? why is he recognizable?"
    "Well sir, he's the lord of the rings because he spent 300 years undercover as the maiar Annatar teaching elves dark arts on how to make powerful magical artifacts and tricking them into making the rings of power"
    "Oh and how are we going to fit that in the show?"
    "Well he spends a single evening with one of the elves and tells him 'dude you should totally heat metal that makes it maleable and stuff' and then says bye"

    • @floridaman6982
      @floridaman6982 Před rokem +24

      This comment makes me very sad… ik were having fun but having both starwars and now lord of the rings utterly butchered feels so bad.

    • @detective2221
      @detective2221 Před rokem +1

      @@floridaman6982 huh

    • @deerseed
      @deerseed Před rokem

      The sad thing is that Amazon doesn't even have the rights to use the name Annatar.

    • @philippathirlby7040
      @philippathirlby7040 Před rokem +3

      @@TheRatsintheWalls they have the rights to the appendices only, so nothing that is in the silmarillion or lord of the rings books.

  • @taintwasher3703
    @taintwasher3703 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Almost the entire 1 billion budget was just money laundering and didn't get spent on the show

  • @Norvik_-ug3ge
    @Norvik_-ug3ge Před 4 měsíci +7

    I remember first hearing about Amazon making a second age Middle-Earth TV series and being so pumped....and then they came out with this steaming pile 😢

  • @SeraphsWitness
    @SeraphsWitness Před rokem +56

    Yes, the finest craftsman in the world had never before heard of the concept of ALLOYS.
    Remember, no character can ever be smarter than the person writing them.

    • @TurinTuramber
      @TurinTuramber Před rokem +14

      Celebrimbor had only been crafting for millennia, how was he supposed to know that metal can alloy. 🤷‍♂️

    • @SeraphsWitness
      @SeraphsWitness Před rokem +10

      @@TurinTuramber It's like meeting a famous chef, and suggesting the concept of combining ingredients together.

  • @HawerTipeZero
    @HawerTipeZero Před rokem +198

    "Omg you're serious" sums up what the writing of this series is.

    • @andrewfrankovic6821
      @andrewfrankovic6821 Před rokem

      Did you actually win something? CZcams points? I hear they're redeemable on Amazon prime video.

  • @LucianoBAF
    @LucianoBAF Před 7 měsíci +3

    This is the best pitch meeting of all. If they had you on Amazon Studios, they could've stopped this madness they did with ONE FUCKING BILLION dollars

  • @RionTokymaka
    @RionTokymaka Před rokem +4

    Think I’ve managed to binge watch everyone of these now. They are amazing, comedic timing is a hard thing to master so being able to cut and paste it in during editing like this is truly exceptional.

  • @euler4273
    @euler4273 Před rokem +606

    "Anyway, the elves need this stuff, or they are going to die"
    "Why"
    "Cause they'll die if they don't get it"
    That basically summarises it perfectly. The entire plot point is based on the elves being about to die. Why? Because they are, there is no reason for it, don't think about it too much. It is necessary for the plot.

    • @mkvv5687
      @mkvv5687 Před rokem +6

      It's the MacGuffin of the show.

    • @gokaury
      @gokaury Před rokem +34

      @@mkvv5687 no, it's the JJ Abrams style "mystery box" that will quite literally never be solved.

    • @diegorodriguez2808
      @diegorodriguez2808 Před rokem +7

      To be fair that plot problem did not begin at Rings of Power, regardless it is a plot problem.

    • @timsaylor4390
      @timsaylor4390 Před rokem +7

      @@diegorodriguez2808 The worst part is that it is partially the canon reason the elves forged the rings but the writers are too stupid to explain it.

    • @diegorodriguez2808
      @diegorodriguez2808 Před rokem +2

      @@timsaylor4390 Absolutely granted, they're off by the long shot, I don't disregard however the potential entirely. The plot has some major holes, and the dialogue is off in multiple areas, however there was some good in it and it was by far the most aesthetically stunning shows this past year. It certainly derives from many Tolkien points and scenes, but need we forget that Jackson did too, and that the Lord of the Rings was a lot better laid out than Silmarillion? Not saying it wasn't bad in a lot of areas, but to hate it I'd say is overkill.

  • @amellirizarry9503
    @amellirizarry9503 Před rokem +124

    Boy, the thing that bugs me the most about the script was the “Sauron lives because of you” Line, like were they implying that Sauron could have just died in a shipwreck??

    • @tuomaspirinen8018
      @tuomaspirinen8018 Před rokem +1

      It seems so. An immortal Maiar spirit that was part of the creation of the entire universe, with all its stars, galaxies and planets, was gonna drown at sea, despite having the power to take physical shape again whenever the previous vessel was destroyed. But hey, that is just some junk some old guy named Tolkien wrote. Who cares about that old old coot?

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před rokem +51

      Singling out the most stupid line in this show is certainly not super easy.

    • @grogdizzy5814
      @grogdizzy5814 Před rokem +9

      How did you manage to sit through the whole thing?

    • @louislux
      @louislux Před rokem +22

      @@grogdizzy5814 skipping all the inspirational speeches is a good start.

    • @Largueirus
      @Largueirus Před rokem +3

      Well no, it's talking about when she took a wounded Halbrand to Eregion to be healed.

  • @ericfaz1427
    @ericfaz1427 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I would love to see a pie-chart breakdown of what they spent $462 million dollars on. Because I sure didn't see that value.

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 Před 4 měsíci

      I've looked at price estimates and it's roughly 3x the cost of HOTD per episode if the cost of the franchise rights aren't included.
      This is not surprising. From a project management perspective, HOTD kept a limited set of locations for each episode (including real castles with natural lighting, which they screwed up a bit due to time constraints), limited use of CGI, and remained very character oriented.
      ROP had to fall back on big CGI shots like the montage of the wars of the Noldor, fantastical cityscapes, and immitating dragon age rather than Tolkien for dwarven civilization (they also stole the non-functional rigging of the numenorean ships from dragon age). It wasn't impactful because the people doing it were incompetent, but you can tell that they were throwing money at it.

  • @FairyTalesAgain_
    @FairyTalesAgain_ Před 10 měsíci +7

    I now know more about this series than I ever wanted to