THE EMPEROR'S VENGEANCE! HIS ORDERS TO GUILLIMAN REVEALED?
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- Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're discussing the Emperor of Mankind and his possible orders to a returned Roboute Guilliman. Have the Emperor's words to the Primarch already been revealed?
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“Hey Bobby, I need you to do something for me.”
“Scratch your nonexistent nose?”
“After that you damn blueberry.”
God i miss TTS
*slides in on lube, perfect abs quivering* Did you say you needed help with your blue berries my emperor?
@@citizenkhan4696 I saw something on reddit with TTS
@@citizenkhan4696Yeah, just another company like many before it to not understand the values of community. Watch in 10 years it fall off like TSR before it.
@@citizenkhan4696 mee too brother me too that reminds me so much of the banter and so on damn i too miss tts
The Emperor looked at Gulliman and said
" I want a shrubbery".
A nice one, an not too expensive.
Ni
@@treevenewson _You can't leave that word unfinished._ - Chaos
@@robertmcdougall1144Nigeria?
@@robertmcdougall1144 It?
Big E spent the last 10k years, perfecting god tier dad jokes, which he then unleashed upon Guilliman.
It's what I would do.
A worthy cause
The ultimate vengeance for all the Ultramarine Chanting
Guilliman was very close to pick Chaos that time,lol
Can’t forget about Cypher invading the imperial palace and a custodes getting a vision from Big E telling him to tell Cypher “Not yet”. Big E is definitely up to something.
Launching the Indomitus Crusade made solid military sense. It is never acknowledged by Guilliman as coming from the Emperor, but always from his own initiative.
Big E basically doing an inception on Guilliman.
It's mentioned that every time Guilliman recalls the conversation with the Emperor he remembers it differently
If the Emperor isn't back Gulliman would look crazy😢
The God Emperor looked at the God Emperor Leto II trapped as a sandorm hybrid for 3000 years and said: "Pfffft".
God Emperor Leto II : dude your one hell of a masochist
God Emperor Leto II: At least my plans worked and I chose to become a Sandworm, Mr. Corpse.
@@givenup24
I think honestly Big E and Leto II would be best buddies so long as their interests don’t collide
They both care deeply about humanity, they both share very similar experience of acting like detached monsters in order to bring a better future and they are both tormented by potential paths to the future.
@@givenup24 and the 40K Emperor did not choose to become a corpse?
The Emperor spent the last 10k years doing a DK windup punch and now that its fully charged, he has Guilliman setting up a juggle so he can land it.
I love that imagery, but what got my attention was your name. it is based.
@henrypaleveda7760 thanks fam lol I want to start a channel soon so I figured I'd make a nice standout name.
10 000 year long KAMEHAMEHAME
@@Ownedyou so, the standard dragonball fight build up length?
@@MersenneTwister "Next time, on Dragon-BALL-40k...!"
Son, please install a text to speech device into my throne.
magnus is a clear case that intellect does not give you wisdom, given the choice twice and both times he made the wrong decision
WIS: 20, INT 8
Problem was that the Emperor wanted him to give up on his own sons. That was Big E's mistake
Emp later said that conversation was manipulated by Chaos in Magnus' mind, since he was already tainted.
@@Deathskull0001 then, didnt the emp wanted to kill his legion and give him another? that was a lie?
Probably. You can’t trust anything you think if you’re tainted. It’s even worse if chaos has your soul.
the emperor ordered it directly.
emperor to guilliman: FUCK THIS LETS BAAAAAAAAALL
And the Blood of Baal it was...
The Emperor looked at Gulliman and said
“Just a flesh wound.”
"I've had worse!"
Gulliman: "What?! You have not!"
"Listening to it while doing some work in the garden" It's confirmed Wolflord Rho is an agent of Nurgle.
he must be burned as a heretic then😂
First Guilliman brought hope and unity during the Great Crusade. Now he is ordered to bring vengeance and retribution in the emperor's name. Oh how the turn tables.
Even to the worlds that just wanted to be left alone?
@@jonharrison9222 Yep
That's what she said
The Great Crusade was one of warfare though. It was why the Space Marines and Primarchs were created in the first place.
The Avengin son
With uncountable trillions paying homage to Him, offering sacrifices, and dying with His name on their lips over 10 millenia: the Emperor, if He wasn't a god prior to the Horus Heresy, surely would have ascended to godhood by now. A god to bring order to the Immaterium itself.
It is stated that the emperor is a weapon...
Order is what Sauron seeks
According to Vulkan the Emperor forgiving Magnus was just in Magnus's head.
A Vulkan clearly under the mental influence of the Emperor, priming him to kill Magnus without mercy.
You can read either EoE's or Fury of Magnus's version as the truth... I find the evidence for "Fury's" more convincing.
Makes no sense, then what reason would he have to open a path and give him a straight shot straight to the throne room? Interesting, but I think the Big E did all that to give "backup plan Magnus" a second shot
@@Kristian.B.Kristiansenwe also have what effectively is the god of change being exercised from Magnus at that point thanks to big E.
It is fully possible that Tzz influenced Vulkhan and big E influenced Magnus at the beginning of it and then recalled at the end after the corner stone was marked for each of them.
Tzz: oh god he is going to be redeemed, Big E says you gotta kill your sons.
Big E: seeing Magnus fall again- oh god a demon i can’t deal witt Magnus like this, Vulkhan you must kill him!
And it is proven that big E could not deal with Magnus by the way given the following events.
@@silent_stalker3687 sorry, I find your post a bit hard to follow.
The thematically idea that Magnus and Vulkan are each manipulated and influenced to be unwitting champions in a Duel between two uncaring Gods...that works amazingly for me.
Was that you point?
That Fury of Magnus short story was just weirdly written and felt out of place. Would be cool if the authors agreed to make that all a fever dream or something.
06:19 but we learn from Vulcan's converstation with Magnus in the Impossible City that this is what Magnus percieved, but not what the Emperor said. There was no offer of redemption or a new Legion, just that Magnus' soul was shattered and only the worst parts of it remained, so he was delusional. What he did is beg for forgiveness and then be booted from the palace.
Rho, I just want to thank you for not using AI images. I really appreciate that you're sticking to beautiful artwork.
Crybaby
Agreed. Let's keep the abominable intelligence out of our lives.
What really happened:
Emperor: Its time to rip and tear
Guilliman: Ah shit here we go again
The sad thing about Magnus is that the Emperor had already forgiven him and only wanted to have him stand before the throne to answer for his folly and Russ was only meant to collect Magnus and return him to Terra. He was a staunch loyalist before Russ was tricked.
I feel like when Vulkan comes back they will use the artifacts and Vulkans perpetual nature to bring back the emperor in my opinion.
That is a rough way to remove Vulkan and restore the Emperor
The Emperor should never come back. It would ruin the entire setting. Him being an inhuman screaming husk worshipped against his will by a decaying empire is the whole core of 40k as a setting.
@@ctjmaughs I hear ya but remember 40k is brutal. Thats why we love it so much.
But how? i think one is a mantel that can resist fire?
the emperor will never return as it would mean the end of the setting
This'd also explain some of Big-E's conversations with Cawl, as well as the marrow-deep conviction of the latter in the divinity of the former.
Definitely top 3 Warhammer 40k channels for me
I love this channel so much
The Man is the Master of Mankind for a reason. He’s not exactly an egomaniac. His boys should have had faith. I feel bad for Reboute after reading of his struggle with his emotions after meeting with the Emperor. I don’t think Reboute knows that The Emperor had to break off the compassionate human side of his soul in the battle with Horus. That’s why the Emperor seemed so cold and probably his lack of subtlety was do to the millennia of suffering on the throne. I agree with this young man. The Emperor loves his sons, all of them. There’s nothing they could do that would end that love. Speaking as a Father and Grandfather, you just can’t understand how much you can love your child. No matter how evil they have become, you still love them. He still loves them.
Yeah we get confirmation in The End and the Death part 2 that Malcador was the only one who noticed that The Emperor split his soul and expunged his kindness.
The emperor is a corpse who sits alone on a throne of lies. His is a fate that he brought upon himself through his own actions.
Spiler for part 3:
Even after sending the kind part of himself away, even as he kills him, he still tells Horus that he loves him. And to wait for him which who knows what's that about or what has happened to that chunk of himself in the interim.
people dont realize how much hes sacrificed... it pisses me off its been corrupted and twisted to excuse their shortcomings and fall to chaos(traitor primarchs) . its like as a dad you realise an alley full of crime exists and you tell your kids NOT to go near it or anyone that comes from it but the kids dont take your instruction seriously and do it anyway. as a parent you dont need to explain yourself sometimes. maybe the truth is too much for them. you have the right to gauge when its right to tell them . but the kids go off on their own get coerced and fall into a bad crowd and then start blaming you saying you lied to them....smh
With the Emporer being a perpetual (in later lore changes), does he have more options than just ascending the Golden Throne? In the Horus Heresy books we have seen what Vulkan, a perpetual could go through. The Emporer had already lived 40,000 years himself. However, the Emporer was inturned in the Golden Throne, being the beacon of the Astronomicon! How GW wants to play that in future narrative, we will have to see. As regards returning Primarchs, Guilliman was the one that set things on that the path that the Imperium became. What better choice than the one that proposed it!
Malcador was a perpetual too. The throne still drained him dead.
It's a catch 22 situation.
The power of the Throne and level of Psychic output The Emperor needs to power it is stopping his Perpetual power from healing him. Which is why he's been in this death like state for 10,000 years.
This is what happened to Malcador who was also a perpetual. The throne not only drained his physical body, its power also destroyed his soul. Killing him permanently.
But, if The Emperor leaves the Throne so that his perpetual power can heal him, then humanity is doomed and his return doesn't matter. Because the moment he leaves the Throne, the Webway under the palace rips open and all of Chaos pours through.
The emperor needed a replacement on the throne to die or regenerate from his current state. If he could have got Magnus back on his side then after defeating Horus he could have come back in good health. Same holds in M42. If there only could be a replacement, the Emperor could die, let Cypher kill him (for example) and return. Although what that means with his apparently fragmented self... There might be part of him in the body, a more or less a fully human emperor, and part of him in the Warp as a god. Add the Starchild, and you've got a nice Trinity going on in there.
The Emperor protects
Nothing
Yes, He does.
@@citizenkhan4696 Tell that to the world's that we're forced to be compliant by the space wolves 😆 or prospero
@@Saf_Ibn_Sayyad_Bacon The Emperor's ways and methods are above our own, little one.
@@REDRAGON12345 nah
I think Sandman made a good point. He said that The Emperor was trying to tell Guilliman what was coming and what he had to do.
Guilliman just didn't understand what his Father was saying. And instead took it as all theae insults being thrown at him.
You forgot to mention that Lion El'Johnson has the coolest name of any Primarch.
Wellll... does that include the Aeldari and the Harlequins now that they helped Papa Smurf regain his life? Will they finally be considered kissing cousins or does the Big E come back and ignore they helped his own return along with the return of his first son? And what about The Lion's wayward sons, who were naughty, but really naughty enough for Exterminatus?
It’s just the writers being ignorant.
Kissing cousins 😂😂😂
Keep them coming Ro
That’s also why I love the Emperor
Sure, call him a shitty father, or terrible god, a cringe Reddit atheist
But you can’t deny his utter devotion to humanity, it’s very inspiring
Better then the Choasgods that somehow claim everything you do empowers them and they won already.... yet they hide in 8 fortresses.
The emperor told Konrad curze seeing the future, it’s just one possibility, talks to him about free will
So the emperor knew who would betray him. The betrayers were born flawed.
I still ask myself what exactly these "shamans" did millenia ago to be able to give birth to this powerful perpetual.
How did you manage to make your video run at half speed?
after reading the siege of terra alot of things line up and make sense, even a part of Guillamins story recall of when he reunited with the Emperor and there interaction and how Guillamin was put off by it, he doesn't know what the Emperor or had to do to defeat Horus. The Emperor is a cold calculating god of wrath at this point and will reap his revenge upon all those who harmed humanity.
The only one who can fix the clusterF*** of the Imperium of Man in its current state is Bobby G and his God Tier Excel skills. If the Big E does come back I wonder how he'd react being called The God Emperor ....
Chills......excited
I can see Magus being the first Primarch to change sides.
57k views vs. 123k subs is crazy. How are 40k fans not subscribing? It is mind-boggling.
When do we get to see wolflords garden video?!
Bobby G and The Lion are going to give Chaos a paddlin'
Gimper doesn't have Magnus he has 10,000 years of devouring psychic energy.
Dont forget Seths words after the Devastation of Baal...
Well, there is a reason why Roboute' Guilliman is not called the ENLIGHTENING Son.
He already did that anyway.
That time for him came and went with Ultramar's heyday.
Emperor to gulliman,Take it back!!!….gulliman take what back father ….Emperor ALL OF IT MY SON
"We sought to build a paradise for us, but others took that away. And so, we instead endeavor to build a hell for them."
Magnus punked out time to make a new primarch to help daddy on the throne.
It would also be a very good time for russ to return and for the liberation of Fulgrim clone
Perhaps the Emperor needed to first build the primarchs and the means to wage war and create the imperium. After that he knew he needed to then grow in power within the Warp. He understood that to fight the 4 chaos gods he needed power within their domain. While they expend there power trying to break out of the warp through their puppets the Emperor would launch the might of the entire imperium to burn up their forces. He in the mean time would then fight them within the warp. Would he target them one at a time, turn them on each other or take them all on at once?
If he manages to destroy the Chaos gods or at least scatters them to be nothing more than the average warp entity, will he then return to a physical form, remove psykers and rebuild his webway so that humanity will never again need to break the vail of the warp thus removing (reducing at least) the power and influence of the warp and those entities within it.
sounds like text to speech fan show was what lit the warhammer canon back up
Between the times when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryas there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Conan! Destined to wear the jewelled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone will tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure
Was the Emperor the light beam for navigation the whole time, or did he only become that after he ascended the throne, if he became the beacon only after he sat on the throne, how did they navigate before
I wonder if 10,000 years have actually passed for the Emperor, if he's even aware of the passage of time. It's said that he mostly exists in the warp, and there's no linear time there
Like the raizing of Monarchia, Guilliman still remains the Emperor's dutiful puppet.
*TTS Emperor* '' About F-ing time. I have so many questions.
Question, is it possible that the Big E could have been saving up the energy of every psyker that was sacrificed over the past 10K years?
Sounds like you do Book readings, I'm calling it now.
Playing at 1.5x speed makes it easier to listen to.
As i tend to use spoilers in order to determine if a book or movie is worth reading/watching in the first place, I would highly apreciate if your contend was more spoiler heavy.
next one back is sanguinius when the lion gets the fucking hint lol
I've read the entire Siege of Terra series, I don't remember Magnus being on the golden throne at all in it. Which book was that?
The Fury of MagnusBy Graham Mcneil 2020
The novella Fury of Magnus.
Big E shows him a vision of him on the Throne and it's sublime. He's controlling everything just fine and he's basically the key to humanity's future as he controls the Webway. Tzeentch comes in and shows him the same thing except his in agony on the Throne and screaming as his soul is sucked out of him like a battery
@@citizenkhan4696 Thanks, does this mean I have even MORE books to buy....?
@@TheTick20001yes, yes it does
Then the bugs showed up and eat all the food in the office refrigerator.
Wait when did Magnus talk again with the Big-E ??? i tought the last time we saw Magnus was when he faught Gulliman.
If Mankind launchs a new crusade, the Crusade of the Dead God across the galaxy, 40k sales will increase a lot.
Guilliman and The Lion where the best to return first. I do wonder who is next though.
I think Corax is best for The Emperors needs now, with all the traitor primarchs reportedly abroad in the galaxy I think a Raven like monstrous Corax hunting them down with a fury few have known would allow Guilliman and The Lion the time they need to re-establish a connection across the great rift
There is a number returning from Warp. That number is 13.
So there a couple of problems here. But imho tge big one is that The End and the and the Death 3 shows The Big E didn't choose the golden throne. Malcador even explicitly calls the choice Dorn made a mistake
So, the emporer now`s where every prikark is at present?
Want to know the really screwed up part?
Angron, the battle powered rage beast himself...was a powerful healer and empath.
He was litterally born to be the...peace maker and noble paladin/war pries/cleric of the Primarchs.
And if he was allowed to grow on a decent world, the Horus Herresy would not only have never happened, the primarchs would probably never have fell to any form of chaos.
But a second golden age of human kind is not what the emperor wants. So he condemned who would have been his most trusted and beloved son to a hell greater then any other primarch, even the forbidden ones, will ever know.
In the warp, one can see small glimpses into alternate futures and if you stare from a point in the past alternate presents. He saw what could have been, he saw waht the emperor stole from him and that knowledge drives his rage and madness even further.
Vengeance is all well and good, but Chaos is not an enemy that can be meaningfully punished.
The Emperor willingly placed himself on the Throne yes. It was that or his death and the loss of Terra.
His vengeance will be against the ignorance of mankind as well...
Big daddy is pissed wow to all who are foolish enough to stand in his way😮
I want to see the Khan back
Emprah is like a space Sigmar, Yes?
Not really.
1.25 speed or higher. You're welcome.
FINE!!
40k is, obviously, very indebted to Arthurian mythology. Malcador is Merlin; Guilliman is Galahad; Mordred is represented by Horus and Magnus. The only glaring omissions are Lancelot and Guinevere. However, it doesn't seem like GW will ever actually reveal which one of them was the 2nd Primarch and which one was the 11th.
I know why Big E called Girly Boy traitor. It just hit me. He's right about Indominus too...The Emperor has talked about time, fate, the future ect...Like it's Ocean but he was clear that it was just an analogy. What do you know about quantum mechanics? What if the Emperor's time is like a wave on an ocean but more importantly. It's a wave at all phases. Imagine being behind a single line wave as run off beyond you towards a point. You would see it ungulating. It would just look like a circle with a line dividing it in half. Change the phase and the line turns like the hands on a clock face. Change phases & frequency enough & you change the channel....That new channel is running a different program. One where Girly Boy was the War Master. That's the Emperor's real secret. He's more interdimensional than even Tzench himself. He's only capable of navigating the possibilities of this Universe. Big E can move between all the possible wave functions. He is the uncertainty principle. When G man came into the throne room for their little chat. The Emperor is in a weakened state. He couldn't be still and in one Universe. His multiplicity was present at once. The Emperor said all that crazy shit and since the traitor thing didn't apply to this G Man. He ended up not remembering it until later. When he died (...again Gman is so great! Yea ok he's died TWICE) for the second time & got closer to the warp. Where all the Oceans of time share a shore. IDK
2x engage
It sounds more like his worshipping has destroyed his mind and this is a different entity entirely
EMPEROR PROTECTS
I frakkin` HATE chaos and the dark eldar!!! For The Emperor ALWAYS!!
He ran out of time, the Great Work continues through Caul and others like Valdor.
I just see a blue haired woman named Olivia screaming for hours and hours about....anything
All HAIL SPACE KING!!!
The Emperor was never able to release his anger when he almost became The Dark King. That didn't happen. So perhaps it's been simmering the whole time.
I think the Emperor sees humanity's survival in a forever war. If chaos wins, it will devour all. If humanity wins, it will destroy itself and everything else for example through technology. But with the Emperor in the middle as a moderator, humanity will grow through struggle... for eternity for the Emperor is eternal. A god.
*than
So, is the Emperor actually talking to people now? and returning or what?
Yes, he is communicating for the first time in 10,000 years. He hasn't risen from the throne or healed his body of that's what you're thinking.
He's just finally got the power to actually communicate with people and give them instructions.
It's still difficult for him, as we saw in the case with the return of Lion El'Jonson and Guilliman.
He can communicate but it takes immense levels of power and he can't communicate clearly so he has to leave clues and hope his sons can make sense of them.
The Great Rift flooded the galaxy with Psychic energy. It was kind of like a defibrillator for The Emperor. It's also given him a huge power boost, like a properly massive power boost.
The Emperor is so powerful now that he is routinely intervening in battles across the Imperium, through his saints and The Legion of the Damned. Both of which have appeared quite regularly since his awakening.
He also burned the garden of Nurgle and actually wounded the Chaos god.
sweet! So when is he due to go and kick some fucking ass@@BM-wf9uf
know any channels that go over the events since he has done taking his long nap,
@@sidonus Sandman of Terra is personally my favourite YT channel for this stuff.
In fact he recently did an hour long stream talking about The Emperor and how he's awakening.
I have this feeling that Guilliman may become the new vessel for the Emperor.
"Hey everyone, Wolflover here"???
I don't understand. The big secret is that the Emperor wants the Imperium to fight the forces of Chaos? Isn't that literally the bedrock of 40k lore. It's not a headline; that's the name of the paper.
How convenient that the Emperor has become a god because of all this.
he probly has an itch he cant reach.
I can see big E, now god tier, and the ancient Eldary (not dark eldar) gods. The two main ones. The three of them plus the primarchs. Push chaos back into the eye of terror and shrink the eye so small. Big E can contain the eye(immaterium) in a void of black space within a black hole forever contained. And with no one to worship them they will wither out and die. The imagainary figures they are. Will fade away.
This sounds like a stretch. If Emps kept his mouth shut Guilliman would do the same so its probably something more
It just occurred to me. The Emperor is a perpetual. Why didn’t he begin to heal immediately after his battle with Horus was over, with Horus being dead and the Chaos gods withdrawn from the situation?
The Emperor would still have ascended the Golden Throne, but at least he could have done so more fully healed, instead of being the broken, near-dead corpse depicted in 40K canon.
He might have begun healing, BUT the drain from the throne has prevented him from healing anymore
I believe hes constantly healing. but the toll on his body on the golden throne kinda stunts the rate..... Emperor is in constant pain and tortured day and night.... the chaos gods are waiting for a single second for him to slip and theyll pour out and consume terra. he is in constant battle and pain. for 10000 years yikes
I dunno, if it is vengeance the Emperor wanted the era of the Scouring was a far better era for it when he still had 6 loyal sons, instead of just 2 and a divided and crippled empire. If he had to wait for 10 millennia maybe it had to be so he could stock up and juice himself psychically of trillions upon trillions of humans believing and DELETING in his name. Until he reached critical mass.
If I were Guilliman I would just stop listening to Emperor of Mankind (after all his lunacy caused the mess the Imperium is in).