MPD patient switching on command and in brain scanner.mpg
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- Clip form BBC Tomorrow's World programme showing a patient with multiple personality disorder switching between personalities whilst undergoing an MRI brain scan
Omg when she speaks french she has our quebec accent which is really hard to imitate and when she swich she completelu lost the Quebec accent ! That is the reason why i believe her !
Totally insane - don't understand how only one part of her personality can speak french though! The human brain is soooo complicated. Learning doesn't transfer states - perhaps that's why? (i.e. if you learn something when you're drunk/high you won't retain it).
Learning does transfer states. Recollection on the other hand is difficult.
Following your example, learn something while you are drunk, and then try to remember it first while not drunk, then when again drunk. You will have an easier time remembering it when drunk, but the memory has been retained.
Caro Vachon quebec is the Canadian headquarters of the mkultra monarch trauma based mind control program. Stay far away from Alan medical center!!
Mermbo Nermberferv you're correct in much of what you say, but it is more complicated than even that...even after Jesus delivered me I remain a multiple. There have been attempts even to cast one my 'alters' don't like that word, that's what they hurt me on, so I call us littles cus we are all young. anyway a pastor of over 45 years was working with me when one of my littles came out to say hi. He wasn't aware of this yet, and attempted to cast them out in the name of Jesus...but I love Jesus too. The result was a hurt child who had just been told to leave her own body...her response was to run to True Jesus for help...demons don't do that...nor do they praise the one true living God the One who has saved, is saving, and will continue to save every single little part of me...it's more complicated than even many who are educated understand quite yet. Thank you for what you have learned so far, I pray that you continue...there isn't anyplace for us to go for help for the most part...many are being delivered in these last days...but there is precious little help...why learn about something that you don't believe exists, right...God bless.
Caro Vachon It is real. I have DID. It is very very real! thnx for believing.
Lmaooo why did the reporter change position every time she talked in the woods
I was thinking about doing that in my videos! I have now changed my mind.
She has mastered the teleportation technique
Lmao I was thinking the same thing
Lol 1:25. I thought it was weird but let it roll listening to her. Crying laughing.
Because british people
Man.. these poor people.... not only do they have to go through trauma so young, have a disorder brought on by said abuse, but have people judge them for both AND being told they are lying about everything. They just can’t win
Me and My system really appreciate this kind comment. it's difficult and it may hurt, but we know we aren't faking - Flare, caretaker alter
DiD is real, being informed is important.
What?? How the fuck could someone believe that it isn't? xD How stupid. It's like believing there is no such thing as cancer or HIV. Bullshit.
Sarah Kat actually, the majority of experts are atleast sceptical of the condition.
As a medical professional working in psychiatry, I can tell you that I have never met in my life a colleague that believed in the legitimacy of DID in this day and age. It has been discredited by actual neuroscience studies time and again. Its sufferers are fully aware of what they are doing. There are normal variations in the brain function of individuals, those are not findings, they are the result of this variation.
I'm glad someone is as skeptical as i am, i'm finding it hard to believe it.
Listen to The GREENBAUM speech. It's on my channel in 4 or 5 10 min parts. Look up CIA MK Ultra mind control court case of 1973. MK Ultra is the same as Satanic Ritual Abuse that causes MPD or DID
They're not characters. They're people.
Yeah I thought it was kind of disrespectful how she called them characters
Yes, that was infuriating every single time
I'd only call it characters if some people their systems are based on established Fictional characters such as Anime, Video Games, Movies, etc. Because at that point its kinda just a joke in my opinion, and they are disrespecting people with DID.
No. Not just people.. They are also parts of A person... or what would have been one.
Came to say this!
I've lived with it my whole life, the biggest issue with that is my parents are medical doctors and think i'm an attention-seeker and such a thing doesn't exist. Your friend is not alone.
I believe you!
Hey there!
I am sorry to hear that. It has been 10 yrs since this comment. How are you doing now?. Hope everythings well.. update us 😊
How are you❤
The brain is an amazing thing
Indiana police need to watch this. I can't command my switching but I am definitely co conscious a lot. I learned that I fully switch a lot when I have the black out periods according to my therapist. I thought the black outs was due to PTSD because some bad alters convinced me of that to make me feel like I had more control when I never did in the first place. Thanks for the video I am going to save up some money to get an MRI done.
The comments are so aggressive
I wish they would go into more detail about the hippocampus and why they see these findings as significant. this is just fuel for the neysayers. Since they dont, ill sa that anyone wanting to connect the dots here can research the amino acid glutamate + hippocampus + dissociation. What DID needs is more research in neurobiology and less "look its magic"! The general public does not understand why there being increased or decreased activity in the hippocampus means shit all!!
I believe the problem here is that the average person is not familiar with scientific or medical terms. Hence why they try to oversimplify the finding, not realizing this damages it's credibility.
what I don't u understand is why they said there was a decrease in the hippocampus area when there is switch.....maybe because altars are subconscious....but I kinda feel like it would greater because they are always there you know like an app that is constantly running in the background, but maybe since it is greater program that handles the crap we can't handle it can operate off less and achieve greater output..... Dunno if I said that right.....
Ahh.. but what they just left out is what about those of us with DID being sued for our children, not being informed during work then fired bc "another alter must have been out", bullied bc we are acting like children and told to "act our age" all bc we legitimately have DID? Monday I have a court summons bc I have DID and my in laws believe I'm 'dangerous' because of this. Am I a danger just bc murderers use this as a scapegoat disorder? What about us who deal with the stigma and lack of education day in and out? What profit do we gain from this? What reason would I want to fake something that could mean custody of my and my husband's very son (we're married and doing fine) on a whim that this judge doesn't understand DID and counts me dangerous without cause bc of hollywood or some other random belief of his own? If I were lying, I'd need to have a beneficial reason. If I were dangerous, my abusers wouldn't still be alive today. Maybe, just maybe the mind is more complex than you give it credit for.
theclanplus1 very well put from a fellow traveler. bless you.
The thing with the abusers I said exactly the same way :).
Doesn't make any sense.
I even went to a therapist that called me BPD like 4 months and after 4 months she finally said "you look so different today" (heard that like 20 times)...
Why would I go to a therapist to lie to her and she even starts working against me... like can't I expect some common sense here really.
There surely are people that fake DID and I think it is overdiagnosed some maybe are just heavily dissociated BPDs!
P B I have DID but undiagnosed. I have a diagnosis of EUPD/BPD with severe dissociative tendencies but my therapist has seen my alters and he knows I have it but I can only be diagnosed by a psych. The one I’d have to see here locally is an asshole to BPD patients as a whole and doesn’t believe in DID so I’m stuck
@@TheIndigoSystem you have no way to reach out to see someone else is there an online group that can help you. Or your the one you Talk to can that person do a referral
I would love to see an experiment where they ask her to pretend to be a new character, and then ask her (perhaps on the same day, perhaps a different day) to be that same character again, to see how her brain responds. Perhaps the changes in the brain activity were due to doing something new vs. being comfortable acting as a character she's familiar with.
We hate switching on command but this would be so neat to us to see. lived with DID our entire life, 25 now
Says he's not doing hypnosis as he does a hypnotic induction
Lol
You know what hypnosis is right? There was no suggestion or attempt to breach subconscious. Dude literally just counted down from 5 to help her clear her mind and focus.
@@joddog that’s literally a textbook induction. And let me note that I actually am Dr. H with a therapy doctorate and training in hypnosis.
@@CaliforniaFarmGirl it can be used as a hypnotic induction but there was no evidence of actual hypnosis. She was completely awake the whole time, he didn’t make any suggestions or try to breach her subconscious in any way.
If you think counting down from 5 and talking to someone who’s fully conscious is hypnosis than I question your expertise.
@@joddogMPD itself is semi-self-hypnosis. And considering that many of us were also part of gov experiments, it's been ingrained in parts of our systems to be "toggled" on demand or suppressed upon command.
I have DID.
we have 8 alters known in our system...
I did think is was B.S when I first watched this. but then I decided that it isn't B.S as I suddenly realised that we can actually switch on demand in certain circumstances. e.g when I know I'm in a 'safe place' (e.g
at one of my mental health services I see)
the reason I thought this was rubbish when i first watched this was because of the fact that we wouldn't ever possibly be able to "switch" when going through that scanner thingy. although, i can do it in general if we feel safe & welcomed enough to respond to the command.
I'm sorry for offending people before. :'(
I didn't mean to!
I just accidentally worded a few things wrong.
I find the topic of switching on command really fascinating!
have a lovely week everyone!
take care :')
Luna .R.M some w DID can switch easily. very real. just that you cant.
K Happy I can switch easily, but just not on command.
that would be rather inreresting.
have a lovely week!
all the best
Luna .R.M in my experience the more each part felt loved and accepted there is much more cooperation. 5 yrs ago when diagnosed i was a jumbled nightmare. now- some have integrated and the others have so much peace together 90% of the time. still healing. love and compassion was the key for all of me. i hope this and much more for you on your journed. integration happens. God bless. write anytime.
Hey I am also a Multi:).
I can't Switch in command but I am what you call a poly system (sounds wrong in and on itself like being a categorized human..)
I switch a lot like a fucking lot (and I remain conscious all the time... but I need to switch in order to remember anything of the day... so I kinda push the necessary "part" forward...
I wouldn't call it controlled but I switch as I get a memory back (mustn't be traumatic)...
Otherwise I guess my memory would be 30 seconds max.
So I think conscious switching is possible!
yes, i agree that a lot of people with DID find that their alters cooperate better if each part felt loved and accepted. only one of my alters has been able to integrate currently, sadly, but hopefully I may get there. it is such a blessing to her that your system's alters seem to have a better understanding and more peace for each other. I am so proud to hear about how far you have come. that is such a wonderful thing.and we will continue to gradually heal by taking very small baby steps at time. thank you so so much for your very kind words, it really means so much to me and I am honestly so glad that you have spoken to me. it has made me feel a bit more positive about it all. thank you. I hope that integration will happen eventually too. god bless you too dear!I wish you the absolute best in everything that you do. take care, Lauren
It does not prove anything to me. All psychological events will show up in the brain in some electro-chemical event in the brain. It just a matter of level of scientific sophistication. I know MPD or DID exist because of my clinical experience. People do not see them because they are blind or because therapists do not provide the safe environment for them to want to share their secret and their pain. People get lost in their fascination at the theatrical aspect and forget that it is a coping mechanism responding to a severe early traumatic experience.
'your clinical experience"? Haha! You're so full of shit! And I'm a rocket scientist!
Thank you. Allow me to further elaborate
People with dissociative identity disorder do not suffer from having multiple personalities per se. They suffer from in-fighting among the alters and past trauma that is locked in their body ( menory they may not even recall.) Their disease is best understaood as a form of cPTSD. Treatment is not to get rid of the "personalities", but to help them to live in cooperation and harmony despite their diversity; as well as treating their PTSD.
Arguing whether these "personalities" exist or not is barking up the wrong tree. The brain imaging studies may at best show they are not malingering. It is far from shedding any light on how to help these individuals.
When the fragments can live together in relative harmony, without incapacitating conflict, I would consider treatment successful. As therapists our first duty is to try to help these individuals heal from their mind fractured by trauma.
Anyone interested in further reading may read my book, in 3 volumes:
author ---David Yeung,
or my blog which is free:
www.engagingmultiples.com/blog/@Vanessa Trotter
They called her a subject, a fucking test subject...
TRIGGERED
Diane BD she was. That's what anyone who is volunteering to do a science experiment is- a test subject.
My old boyfriend had it and it's not made up. Proof is they can drink for all the personalities to get drunk and not die.
LoL! I really wish I could tell if you're joking or not! But actually what's sad is we can. Sierra can drink 2 bottles of wine, be completely incapacitated and if someone knocks on the door Ruby will answer with a headache and only slight dizziness. Each dose of med is different for each of us. A couple melatonin knocks me out for the night.. and apparently according to my husband that cues the kids to come out and play (unaffected by the meds at all). Really weird how that stuff works. Since it's a biological med to control the body you'd think the same meds would work the same for everyone but no.. Kitty has to have a certain type of anesthesia for gastro procedures and surgeries because she alone wakes up in the middle of procedures otherwise.
theclanplus1 wakes up during surgery!?! Oh my goodness!!!
Is this a joke??? I have nearly every sign and I think I have DID 😮.....
I can drink a whole bottle of ANY hard liquor EASILY AND DEPENDING ON THE DAY... I behave much differently. Usually not even noticeably drunk.
@@ezclean7022 that's not all what did is. It's a coping mechanism used by children, fully developed within the critical periods of development in the brain. Parts of the personality split off and become separate, allowing different parts of the brain to be shut off or to be used, that is why some may not have the alcoholic tolerance or even allergies and bodily illnesses as the other alters. It can change the body through the mind
@@vinx3078 do you have it
Even actors sometimes get stuck in character longer than they wish. They haven't developed another brain. They've forgotten who they were, but eventually they remember because there's no psychological reason to stay there.
Yes, unless they are malingering, they have no reason to train themselves out of what began as ficticious in the first place. It saddens me that DID can be portrayed by some people who are doing nothing but being applauded for spinning BS.
Sigh...
So, you are saying that as long as someone reports experiencing a phenomenon, its true.
OK, lets try a thought experiment:
I say I have seven hearts in my chest. You come back and say that the human cardiovascular system features only one heart, the human chest is only large enough for one heart and multiple hearts would blow out the lungs.
So, you conclude I'm not telling the truth.
But, use the same logic regarding the brain, and its different.
Why?
That's such a bad faith sh*tty metaphor and you know it. If you don't know it, we are SHOOK that you graduated college or got a degree in anything. That isn't logical- It's not an appropriate equivalence !
Why? Because the brain is not as well understood as the ventricles to the heart. It isn't a mere driver of pistons- Parts of the brain can be damaged or removed and the self or person, even if altered, can still function or be called a complete person!
Do you not consider someone with brain damage to be a person? Do you see them as lesser beings? Subhuman? You characterize yourself as a cartoon villain and you expect a comments section filled with traumatized people to react to you by swooning or being impressed or *not* Rejecting you?
I bet the people in your life who are left truly support you to a fault and are so sycophantic that not a single thing you've said in one decade has been wrong. What do you get out of this? Oh, right- To be completely blindsided, overestimating your own opinion, because you are surrounded constantly by those who fear you or do not question you or CANNOT question you OR ELSE.
Your shame, characteristic of narcissism, and not GUILT at acting like a galaxy brained 'The only person in here with functional logic' Character that you've become after years of self induced insulation and atrophy- Is completely telling. So, I deeply hope you feel at least a tiny bit of shame. I know you are probably not equipped to feel any guilt for anything you've done. But, I guess that's what happens with the phenomenon of DISSOCIATIVE ANONYMITY via the internet when applied like a lens over your absurd ego. You are truly the most logical LASER death beam in the comments section.
I can't wait to read your book 'I'm Right' By Whatever it was that your name was.
;)
LOL couldn't stand the fact that you were proved wrong
I been sexually abused when I was little I still haven't told anyone yet I'm 33 now
you told us.... see if you can find a counselor to talk to
evan shano please find someone to help you and talk with you. There are so many kind and gentle therapists out there waiting to help you. I really mean it’s, I know a few. So please try and find anyone of them to help. They’ll help you make things okay again, and I mean really okay.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. It happened to me as well but apparently I can’t remember anything before the six grade it’s like a blank wall and I can’t penetrate it I do have bits and pieces of things that will occasionally come through but other than that it’s like it’s all been wiped away and even when prompted by my brother that what we’re calling to vent that happen with both of us nothing comes up for me so I’m not sure how bad it was but I do get flashes so I do know that I was sexually abused by multiple people and i’m not sure if my mom had something to do with that or not. I’ve had a psychiatrist tell me that if it’s that embedded and then I can’t even remember with prompting of people that were there for certain events that were non-threatening then it’s sometimes better to leave it on varied as it could cause a psychotic break. My doctor keeps pushing me telling me I compartmentalize and then I need to figure out what happened in my childhood but I don’t want to destroy my life now even if I have compartmentalized it because I can’t remember and maybe it needs to stay undiscovered
Angi Baugh leave it alone! It’s not worth it. Just move forward
I pray you are alright
Traumatized people who suffer this bad don't hurt others. So using an excuse like this should seem redundant. But maybe that's only understandable by people who suffer from these type of traumas?
"They believe that unless they are exotic no one is going to pay attention to them."
When has a person with DID ever said that?
They're not likely to say it or admit it but many people claiming to have it on YT certainly think it and plenty people can see that.
"People with DID believe..."
1. What they believe is not reliant. A clinician’s does endorse a confabulation.
2. Clients who present as DID do not believe they are multiples. They believe that unless they are exotic no one is going to pay attention to them.
As for treatment, if you reward a client who presents with confabulated symptoms with attention they don’t' get better. They give you MORE confabulation.
That is why DID's always seem to get worse after diagnosis.
I havent. I have got much better.
Ah yes, the solid argument of "I can't fathom it - they must be faking."
so 1 question... if she switches and dont remember n e thing.. how does she remember to press the button after she switches?
Randy Odom thats what i was wondering too
Lolll
Alters can be co-conscious with the original
i dont care she said SHE CANT REMEMBER ANYTHING!
DID U NOT WATCH IT?
It isn't her that is pressing the button, it is a co-conscious alter that is. One of her Alters literally sits there and says that it has been watching...Or did you not watch the video? XD
hi yesiam I have DID to, I wish there were help forums or something to help people with this disorder, I understand that sometimes it can be very difficult and lonely
By the way, the best way to treat MPD/DID's is an Adlerian technique called "spitting in their soup."
As soon as an "alter" exhibits itself, end the session. Do this every time an alter crops up.
When the client realizes that the attention seeking/role playing/alter casting will not work, the alters magically go away.
Because, they were never there to begin with...
Its called a commissurotomy, a colostomy involves the bowels.
You can't cut a computer into separate functioning chunks. A hard drive is not RAM, RAM isn't the bus, and the bus isn't the power supply.
Each part has a unique function and you can't swap one for another.
The brain works very much the same way. As an example, the motor cortex serves a specific function, so does the visual cortex, but either does very little without the rest of the brain.
"Never confuse enthusiasm with anger"
Never confuse enthusiasm with zealotry.
Never confuse enthusiasm with knowledge.
Never confuse enthusiams with defensive aggression.
If I tell you a story, and its true, an FMRI would show activation of the temporal lobe (recall) and the hippocampus (recall and emotion) of my brain. If I tell you a story, and its false, and FMRI would show activation of the frontal lobes because I'm thinking up the story rather than recalling it.
HOWEVER...
An EEG, which is much older tool than an FMRI, would just show a change in electrical activity.
@WorkJoker
No you don't hun, You don't always have control and some times you won't even be there when another personality comes out. If you have bad ones, and they decide to say something to a friend because they don't like them, you will have to deal with the consequences. and then theres what has to happen to you in order for it to develop. I don't think that would be pleasant. my friend has an alter that cuts and mutilates the body when it is out. So no, you don't
Anger? No. Anyone can type profanity. Doesn't automatically make them angry. Many times it's used to emphasize a point. Never confuse enthusiasm with anger.
If she can switch on command how is her system still functioning... Wouldn't her alters object or something? I think she's just making it up.
Ginny Mode thats not how it works. what research have you done to think alters would object? or do you have the disorder and your alters object? many alters can be very cooperative because if loved by the host many respond to that- love. just like any other person.
To answer your actual question, which I'm assuming is: If the chest can't handle several hearts then how can the brain handle several personalities? One brain can hold thousands of memories, addictions, habits or "profiles". People with DID are actually activating these profiles. We all have them, but they're dormant...unless something traumatic happens and we can't take it. It's why you can role play, or impersonate other people.
Intelligence and consciousness stand upon two pillars. The first is body mass to brain mass ratio. An example is the T-Rex; big animal with a small brain = not that bright.
The second is absolute brain mass. A mouse, even if it had the same body to brain ratio as a human, could not be as intelligent because the brain isn't large to support intelligence.
Allegedly, MPD/DID divides the brain's resources among several "consciousnesses".
How does that work given what we know?
poke-poke...
Go ahead torture a child, rape it, neglect it and let it parent itself and you will see what you'll get!
If you'd do that to a 'normal' adult I guess they would die after many years!
Also, forget the idea of being a psychologist. Especially an online psychologist. You will misinterpret everything. I don't believe these people are making it up. I think they are misunderstood. There's no way YOU can get inside of their heads so I don't understand your arrogance on the subject. You can't be a "know it all" about a subject you know nothing about since YOU apparently have never suffered from DID. You can only be an observer. To say they're making it up is shallow of you.
Tha Oppressed its all very real. very hard to live this way.
If you're interested in learning more about this topic I recommend you watch dissociaDID they have DID and talk about it in depth on their channel.
No, I've already seen her channel. Very YT drama-esque and theatrical. Wants money from people to get "a wax-sealed personal letter from one of the system!" and hundreds of dollars for "a personal skype meeting with one of the system!". Eh, no thanks.
We have DID, but with all due respect, DissociaDID's channel seems very over the top and we can't help but feel that they are trying to profit off of it. 😔
The second doctor is spot-on correct. If The 2 scenarios lack The Same impact/importance, different sectors Will always be active, then to validate The problem as being real, The subject should be put in The Same suffering scenario in order to trigger The Same areas again, which is impossible. So it only leaves The option to believe that The People até faking it for attention.. Which is in social media era, The fuel to The fire.
I “take my knowledge” from a PhD program in Clinical/Development Psychology and several years of clinical practice. Add to that a few peer reviewed publications and a book chapter.
I currently work for my state’s Department of Mental Health in Administration.
I sense that you have nothing to say but just want someone to talk to. As my time is not infinite, I'm going to block your account now.
By the way, I wouldn't have picked nueroplasticity as my counter-argument.
I would have gone with "phantom hand syndrome."
Fair warning, I've got a come back argument for that one as well, but, its an interesting phenomena and well worth reading about.
Umm...corpus callosotomy? Split brain is literally cutting a computer into separately functioning chunks. :P
Her french character has a heavy English accent, maybe these people are just, how can I say... actors?
Gee I haven't thought about that since years ago, when I got wrapped up in watching every mk ultra vid there was on here. Sigh. It's a beautiful day outside...
I belive DID is real! Unfortunately I also belive there are a lot of people who haven't got it, but feel it's helpful in some way to make belive. I belive they struggles with mental illnesses too, but that they have read alot about it or have a psykiatrist that convinces them that's what's going on. So many CZcamsrs say,, when my psykiatrist made me realize I had DID... They change on camera and build channels on it and gets a lot of love and attention. Not that they don't deserve that, but before there were very very few known caces of it and suddenly sooo many people have it on you tube.
I have empathy for those that thinks they have it too and even for those that pretends, but I 'm sure it is very hard for those who really suffers from it and really don't want people to think they pretend! What if one that doesn't really have it, was tested like this woman and it showed that nothing changed in the brain..., and it would have proved it, if a real DID person did it, like this woman here! If I had DID, I would be scared people didn't belive that I didn't make it up..
It is important to be believed! I'm not saying that all the You Tubers that shows their alters and what they all want for x-mas and have many videos out, doesn't have it. I don't know, but I see some I really belive and others I don't.
As I said, I don't judge, but I can see the dilemma it causes for those who don't want to have it, but have and when they dare to tell, are looked at as attention seekers because it has become almohst "cool" for some to have it...
NORTH Line I completely agree.
It’s always struck me as curious that people with fringe opinions cite facts, but can never recall how they came by them.
It also amazes me that even though the origin of these facts can not be determined does not shake the person’s belief in it.
So, this is where we seem to be:
You don't know how you know what you know, but you want to argue anyway.
Have I got that right?
If I don't, please cite a single fact whose provenance you can recall and we will start from there.
Where was the proof? I saw none.
Also, there are videos on youtube of people with DID who actually got better after diagnosis and counseling.
So, you are saying you have reviewed the published studies with a critical eye and an understanding of the science under lying the methods and analysis and arrived at an informed opinion?
Or, are you saying DID/MPD sounds plausible based on the youtube videos you have seen?
Which one is it?
May I have your sources to back up the pending removal from the DSM and no longer a Diagnosis?
To paraphrase the great American Psychologist William James, there can be nothing in the mind which can not be done by the brain.
So, the question becomes can the brain organize itself in a manner which would allow for alters?
After half a century of neuroscience, the answer is clearly no.
Just as cutting a computer up into chunks does not create small computers a brain divided up into separate entities can not function.
In short, not enough hardware to run the software.
Waltham1892 thats right. those of us w DID often barely function until thers integration. its a nightmare- no one wants this but its very real.
In your analogy, multiple alters in one brain would be equivalent to different programs running on the same computer, not to a computer being chopped into smaller computers.
@@harrietpotter649 Then you've misunderstood my analogy.
In MPD, according to its proponents, there must be TWO personalities running at any one time. The first is the alter you can interact with and a second which is selecting which alter is presented.
This, of course, is self contradictory.
Then, there must be enough cognitive resources for each alter to have it's own unique memories accessible to only itself.
Of course, the brain dosen't operate that way.
So MPD/DID is built upon mistaken assumptions and disproved theories.
In other words it's not real.
@@Waltham1892 firstly, none of that is obvious or self-contradictory. The human brain is the most mysterious object in the universe, and consciousness is by far the most significant paradox in science. We don't actually know how consciousness works, or really even all that much about how the brain works. Nothing in science as it stands today precludes the possibility that one brain might house multiple consciousnesses, other than the observation that most brains house only one. Indeed, everything we know about the universe tells us the brain shouldn't house *any* consciousnesses at all; and yet somehow they all do. This is an extremely mysterious and fascinating frontier of science.
Secondly, the point of my comment was to point out the weakness of your analogy. You used the image of a computer being chopped into smaller computers to illustrate the supposed ridiculousness of a brain with multiple personalities. Clearly it didn't occur to you that your own analogy needed only a very minor tweak in order to provide a highly compelling illustration of how multiple "programs" could, in fact, run on the same hardware. It was a poorly-chosen analogy that undermines your point when examined for anything longer than a few seconds.
@@harrietpotter649 I'd like you to offer research validated proof of anything you just said.
Saying "mystery" is a diagnostic feature of a disorder is wasting everyones time.
Ohh DID exists alright....
Damn the government practiced this on them and acts like it not real!
Yep mk ultra
@@Ohkeh640 exactly
hmm. They way she goes into the French Canadian seemed theatrical.
This is stupid. People with this problem know why they have it and what its for... Its simply a part of trauma... Its no big deal.... I hate videos like this...
The only reason they want medical evidence is to save money on SSI claims... They care nothing about the people with this problem,.. To bad...
This is an evil world.. iTs horrible to sensationalize people that have gone through such trauma... I would never allow someone to film me like this. I have to much integrity...
What I don't understand is why does DID develop for some people and not others going through the same situations or trauma?
not everyone reacts the same towards identical traumatic situations
some people get did, some dont get it but are still traumatized, and some dont get traumatized at all
it just heavily depends on the person
My therapist explained that you have to be a "creative genius" to develop MPD. He specialized in it. Taught Abnormal Psychology at Valencia. He retired some time ago., but at the time I was diagnosed it was rare to find anybody that knew anything about it.
@@SandcastleDreams that’s complete baloney and there is 0 evidence of this. But whatever makes you feel good. Yes I checked out your other comments because the reply you left me was hilarious 😂
@SandcastleDreams Interesting. I've also noticed that most people who say they have DID tend to be white people. Mostly white kids on tiktok. I wonder why it's so disproportionate.
I'm sorry, I thought of Saison Margarite. . .
@Rodnox Child parts are not allowed out while some one is driving as these other personalities are formed to protect the main personality. A child part would not do anything that would cause harm. I too was afraid of this happening to my friend and was concerned for her safety but was informed by one of the other adult personalities.
Great video it is short enough for an intro and gives specifics. Alot of sympaty for anyone who edured this or amnesia, the loos of control is frightening. If she can control it than real or fake we have shred manipulator. The question is her motive.
my cat has mpd
I am getting tire of people spamming "mk ultra" on these DID videos
I like the french lady.
How does activity in a brain area associated with long term memory indicate anything like another identity? Couldn’t it also mean that the character associated with long term memory was so because it is just that, long term. Rather than the character based on the request of the doctor which was not... long... term? I’d like to see a comparison done with repertoire actors who have long acquaintance with the characters they play. There’s no comparison and no discussion of the science just a technology demonstration. This is the worst reporting and bad science both which are so common that they trigger long term memory response in me! LOL
My question is, how do you know who’s the “real” you? Don’t understand she’s undergoing these tests. The “others” are enemies, taking over uninvited. Everyone is different but consciously switching between different stages of the brain, I find difficult to swallow.
Marcus NL the alters are not enemies at all. each was created to protect the person in some way. tI have DID.
K Happy You’re generalizing DID, thinking that alters are created just to protect an individual. Experiencing a takeover, losing control of oneself, is not for every person suffering from DID a way to coop with reality. There can be alters who are dangerous and show no respect for other alters. It can be a frightening experience to realize that alters can take control and kill the body or self harm the host.
Marcus NL these others are not enemies. Every part created itself to protect the main person.
Marcus NL yes. I am aware. I have DID. Each part exists for a specific reason to protect- to a part killing the body may be it's way of protecting the host from further abuse. I have lived this- I dont count on my therapist I inform my therapist. People w DID are very very intelligent. We did not survive hell because we r dumb( sincerely) Some parts or a part may hold so much pain they are suicidal or self hating. Though it may not make sense to an unabused adult these harming parts make sense in the system of a person. They need to be healed and integrated. I have been successful in this by God's grace only. I have had DID my whole life. Today I am 85percent integrated- and most of it occured the past 5 years when I finally learned what this was my whole life formerly being treated for complex trauma the past 20 yrs. Healing happens Im glad to say- I have an amazing life.
K Happy it’s not that simple. Who is the “real” person? When kids suffer from traumatic events in their lives from a very young age, the create different alters, meaning that they all become a big cluster of identities. Growing up this could lead to an identity disorder.
Isn't Sybil a movie...
The O Negative yeah but it was based on a real story of some stupid woman and her stupid Psychiatrist who faked DID
So is every World War 2 movie. I guess, ergo, World War 2 didn't happen. Huh. That's DEFINITELY how logic works.
I too have this disorder. ): sucks sometimes, switching in and out without any realization...
@@benjamindouglas862 shut the fuck up
@@psi9899 DID symptoms are the result of bad therapy, read a book about Cornelia Wilbur the therapist who popularized DID, instead of publishing it in an academic journal where it would be peer reviewed she published as a book. There are tons of flaws in her methodology. Also why does DID only happen when the therapist believes in it? Sibyl never had a personality break until Wilbur became her therapist. Watch a few of the interviews, it's textbook hypnosis, the questions are so leading it's painful. I'm not to saying that the symptoms aren't real, but DID is the result of bad therapy. Around 50% psychiatrist don't believe in it, so it's not like this is a controversial opinion.
@@benjamindouglas862 again, shut the fuck up.
@@psi9899 uneducated, unsophisticated, uncultured swine or at least this personality.....also you shut the fuck up, clown
Yes, its amazing. All it takes is years of intensive therapy and the client gets better.
Normally, they get better right before the insurance runs out.
The one great truth of clinical fads is the disorder is magically cured as soon as the payments for treatment stop coming.
The best example is Sybil. She was "cured" just as Dr. Wilbur finishing writing her book regarding Sybil's treatment.
You could call that a coincidence, but I like the world malpractice more.
, one of the leading advocates[Ross] of the trauma-dissociation
account, contends that ‘‘the most important thing to understand is that alter personalities are
not people. They are not even personalities (...). The patient pretends that she is more than
one person.’’ Likewise, Putnam (1992, p. 418) noted that ‘‘a reading of the North American
clinical literature- as opposed to the sensationalized popular press accounts- quickly
demonstrates that reputable clinicians do not believe that the alter personalities represent
distinct people.’’
When you get all your Alters integrated it gives you photo graphic memory! Check out Ted Gunderson interview with Paul Bonacci. *Paul Banacci's lawyer wrote a book about it!*
*THE FRANKLIN COVER UP*
was that philipa forrester fwoaaaar
I think they don't take it more seriously because it could be used as a court defense that really couldn't be beat. If you switched personalities, blacked out and another personality does something, how can they really find you guilty for anything? Even schizophrenia is becoming less successful as an insanity defense.
amazing
Before it was a movie it was a book based on the treatment of "Sybil" by Dr. Wilbur (her real name by the way).
The book is the prototyple for all modern MPD/DID cases. Sybil came to Dr. Wilbur with diffuse problem. Dr. Wilbur diagnosed her (projecting her own issues upon her), and the fun and games began.
At one point Sybil admitted she made it all up and Wilbur would not believe her, refusing to lose her most famous client.
In the end, after years of treatment, Sybil was a husk.
Welldone!people starting to learn more bout human species an very extraodinary capabilities,i don't think M.S.P is alwayz down to abuse in childhood but this woman has shown something that needs to be shown,there's a difference between atention seekin petty people,an someone who has multiple charecters,,,,,,best evidence i've seen,hope progress continues! ;)
I know a great deal about the "disorder", if one can be said to know a great deal about nothing. I've read the research and even treated a few MPD/DID clients back when it was in fashion.
As to why I'm here, why do I need a reason? If I don't like your reason for being here do you have to leave?
From your screen name I'm going to assume you are a member of the RSA/MPD/DID Brigade.
Unless you'd like to see your sacred cow gored, I'd quit right now.
Theres this book I read when I was younger called Intertwined by Gena Showalter . It’s basically a kid with MPD
@joakeimmcgrath
I think the very few cases of D.I.D /multiple personality that have been shown to the media are 1's too obvious,people just assume the most likely cause,true some people turn off mentally when abused an years later say they have different charecters,an im 21yrs had a average upbringing no self-harmer or playin a charecter for show,yet i can feel when i go ''distracted'',,,an suddenly my whole outlook on anythin an everythin can be different,i hope to learn more bout this.
All the MPD/DID's I've ever treated...
As I've said, my approach has been to end the session when the client "alters." Normally within six sessions the client stops and you proceed as if the alters had never been there.
When I ask where the alters went (again, spitting in the soup), without fail the clients report they were attention seeking strategies. Some also report that "alters" allowed them disavow words and deeds that were problematic.
Got to challange the client some times...
Excellent.
Congrats on being a closed minded bigot and being narcissistic enough to treat people like us as your pet to punish and discipline. Other than being a twisted and inappropriate way to treat the traumatized, this serves to keep people in line under your worldview- Whatever it is- No matter how much it contradicts the actual DSM-V, you absolute egomaniac tripping ghoul.
I bet you make these patients and their alters/headmates completely lose faith and conform to your standard to prove the thing which is your standard which is a conflict of interest you absolute cruel d*p.
Willing to bet that you also work with younger, more scared patients or those who are easily gaslit by anyone they wrongly believe is there to actually help them.
Also, I LOVE the twist on Monarch training that you've got going on! Making one of the alters or headmates suppress the others in shame? As a control tactic? Not very original, but props to you for being a mean little jerkwad about it.
Gotta admit, I'm actually impressed by your solipsistic attitude. So is my entire 'Attention seeking system' Which results in amnesiatic gaps.
*love* The nostalgia for exorcism and coercion- If you interrogate someone long enough or pressure them with an uneven power dynamic, which is why I'm assuming you gaslight *cough* TREAT lol YOUNGER PEOPLE or people who are desperate, they'll simply say anything you want them to say. Because of your narcissistic lack of self awareness and inability to empathize with the patient/s, you, in turn, via projecting your worldview onto theoretical patient/s- Manage to reflect back a biased confirmation of what you already believed or *need* to believe because the world is just *scary* If you cannot control all of it, you absolute disaster of a human being.
These are people and I feel bad for any pet you've ever owned. I feel sorry for anyone you've ever had as a 'friend'. I feel like, just maybe, what you seek isn't worth the cost!
Let's say, just hypothetically, you were an ethical and kind hearted person who possessed a sense of self awareness which you desired to be also kind to the world with- Fascinating perspective, no?
Let's say the patient *was* only attention seeking. Why would they be so desperately attention seeking? Is it cause they didn't clean their room or sit up straight or whatever or go to Church or whatever you believe in that's apparently bigger than other people's actual lives?
Maybe, just, maybe attention seeking behavior is caused by a lack of stable figures near the patient or people or whatever- During the formation of ego states and the person/whomever actually had a neglectful childhood or introduction to what life was. Maybe the attention seeking is caused by some abuse or pain. MAYBE THEY WERE TRYING TO COME OUT TO YOU BECAUSE THEY NEEDED YOUR HELP, YOU JERK.
Maybe- Just maybe, capitalism doesn't indicate the ideal environment for EVERYONE to grow in an inherently competitive atmosphere of the formation of the self- Whatever the self is or whatever you believe the self *has* To be, because you think SOULS exist or that the default state of human consciousness is one self- Despite the stellar states a mind is capable of even when severely damaged and, especially, when it has endured trauma which affects the epigenome of the human brain to survive at any costs. It's called Natural Selection.
Have you ever run more than one operating system *DO YOU GET IT?* on one computer? Ever run a RAID of hard drives? The redundancy present allows a more robust system which can survive more- And that's just basic stupid computers and not the most advanced object ever observed in the entire cosmos.
It's really ADORABLE how you cling to whatever beliefs make ya feel better when you truly believe that you've got it all figured out... The entirety of human consciousness. He did it everyone! He finished the human connectome all by himself! 'Waltham' Did it! Walt Ham indeed has figured out, mapped and been the personal James Cameron, explorer of the neural cosmos- Conqueror and TAMER of the MOST ADVANCED OBJECT IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE INCLUDING BLACK HOLES IN INTERSTELLAR SPACE- THE BRAIN! ONE OF THEM!
PS: We all think you're a jerk. Every *single* small, tall, angry, sad, trauma holding, gifted and quiet parts *cough* I mean, sorry, ATTENTION SEEKING MODALITIES. ALL THE ATTENTION SEEKING MODALITIES Of *just my lmao* BRAIN. We all think you're a total snooze. ANd boring. Maybe your soul would actually be beige if SOULS HAD ACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT THEY EXISTED.
But, they don't. They have no more evidence of existence than I'm to believe that a person named 'Waltham' Exists and it's not 1852. Boring, predictable, bigoted, ego-driven, inappropriate, narcissistic absolute f*cking monster.
@@cassandraoftroy829 I was just reading about Troy on wikipedia... Is this the same one?
'The Achaeans entered the city and killed the sleeping population. A great massacre followed which continued into the day.
Blood ran in torrents, drenched was all the earth,
As Trojans and their alien helpers died.
Here were men lying quelled by bitter death
All up and down the city in their blood.[164]
'
Yes!
If you want to know more, watch Or read my book ---David Yeung.
David Yeung are there any cures?
might want to take him up on his second suggestion. i don't think this is a topic that has any easy answers to any question...what ive learned about integration so far is that even when it apparently works, a trauma can bring one, some, or all alters back out, and ive seen it cause a great deal of harm. Can it be something one learns to live with successfully, YES!
Sorry for the belated answer. Yes, many do get healed. Treatment is psychotherapy. It may take long but it is worth it. I have one patient I follow up, up to 2 decades. ( Ruth in chapter 5)
In cases of DID there are:
Voice changes
Brain changes
Loss of memory
Also there are consequences far to big to continue faking a disorder:
Loss of family and friends who choose to excommunicate because they can't deal with it. Also, loss of employment.
Someone claiming to have several hearts can easily be debunked by x-ray, ultrasound or oral inspection if necessary. If the hearts aren't there they just aren't. End of story.
How can we orally inspect DID? It's not palpable like a heart.
“Lying alters memory,” she says. “It creates a new memory for something that didn’t happen.”
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278262618301726?via%3Dihub
These findings demonstrate that lying is another source of misinformation and influences memory differently across the lifespan.
Why We Lie: The Science Behind Our Deceptive Ways
www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/06/lying-hoax-false-fibs-science/
Telling a lie makes way for the brain to keep lying
www.pbs.org/newshour/science/telling-lie-rewires-brain-keep-lying
The brain adapts to dishonesty
The findings uncover a biological mechanism that supports a 'slippery slope': what begins as small acts of dishonesty can escalate into larger transgressions.
www.nature.com/articles/nn.4426
Kailyn Ridges
*Poke*
Wiki: Corpus_callosotomy and Neuroplasticity
What if the husband cheats on her for Elsie?
I don't believe it... the imaging did not prove a thing!
Moon night
so she be a sceintist?
Also I think the only way you can even consider it a possibility for yourself is missing time and the black outs, gaps in memory, finding yourself in a place or doing something you wouldn't do but at the same time I don't think it has to necessarily be another person with another name and history etc. I think it could be the uncontrollable part of your personality, like the alter could identify as the actual person but that person wouldn't be psychologically present as they normally would be and be unable to know or realize what they are doing. Kind of like an actual fragmented single identity rather than fictional ones necessarily being created. Kind of like running on auto pilot unaware.
That sounds a bit more like osdd 1a, though I don't know much about osdd so I could be wrong
Those with did have personalities that all have one brain but are compartmentalized, so basically I guess it's kinda like every alter is in their own room that have their memories/history and thinking, though feeling and memories can sometimes bleed through the walls from others. They are their own separate individuals but share the brain, so kinda like a house having separate rooms.
It's not always a blackout too, some alters can communicate and also be co-con with each other near the front.
psychiatry is a mess in UK I guess
Bernhard Grove
doppio?
People with DID believe they have reason to be someone else. They've been molested, raped or abused in some way which makes them feel bad about their image. There are millions of people dissociating because they dislike themselves for different reasons.
I think the best way to cure this disorder is by boosting the original persons self esteem, showing them positive images of self. Somehow make them want to be themselves again. Telling them they're faking won't help at all. It will worsen it.
Tha Oppressed thats not it. the brain split very young due to repeated trauma. then split again and again as coping mechanism. its a living nightmare. each part has its own likes dislikes and needs. its not fun.
Please tell me which studies you have read.
Please share the studies you have read. Please. I'm begging. We're sincerely begging you. We wanna know what it feels like to read something and confidently be wrong xD
DID is rare but I know some one with it , actualy been trying to seek help for her I am in pa does anyone know of a Specialist in the lancaster harrisburg york area?
Google dr roger boehm. He will skype. He is brilliant. I think he is in GA now.
Wow AWSOME that is prove this is real
Your posts fail to offer a theory of what DID/MPD is, how it works, or how the brain's hardware makes it work.
You can not suppose a theory into existence from whole cloth or by cherry picking bits and pieces.
Perez Kimberly Hernandez Brenda Gonzalez Melissa
I don’t know why DID is not believed because it is an actual psychiatric diagnosis so I am perplexed as to why these people are not being believed because it is legitimate diagnosis.
I can’t think of the name of their scale that they use to classify these as it’s been a while since my psych classes so forgive me. Children of sexual abuse almost always have alternate personalities and someone put it really best that has D ID along with I think she said polymorphic fractured personalities as well wear an alternate actually split into more than one personality to deal with different traumas and different rituals and each day it was something different and when I knew thing came up another personality was created to deal with that and then another one may split off from that one so one person Ellie Mae have no idea what the other ones are doing or they may all have consciousness of each other As I seen this too many times and too many videos were too many different people for it to be not true
What I have seen watching multiple people that have been through MKULTRA Programming or other various types of programming they start these children at the age of two or three and as she described it when they are exposed to sexual abuse for the first time as a young child at that age when they are penetrated in their rectum it sends like a electrical impulses to the brain which immediately splits the brain off into two parts to protect the child because they don’t understand and don’t have the ability to understand what’s happening to them and when other things happen they keep splitting and creating new personalities and new personalities to keep dealing with these various abuses or rituals or whatever they are subjected to.
She’s the first one I’ve heard once they switch personalities to actually talk in a different voice I’m not saying she doesn’t have it but 10 other people on here that are victims of ritual abuse that have DID and are aware of the other personalities talk in their own voice but they associate with this other personality by name.
I’m not saying she’s faking it I’ve just never seen this before
Hmm... I remain skeptical.
So DID allows you to speak french and become a six year old? Interesting.
The six year old identity state is a part of the overall personality, and takes executive control of the body as parts do. It's not the person 'becoming' a six year old.
As for the language thing, because of the amnesia between identity states, it's very common for different parts to have skills that others don't, and there's no reason why a part couldn't have learned to speak French without the 'original' person knowing it.
I suffer from Dissociative Identity Disorder and unfortunately this video is presenting the disorder very wrong. The alters of a person cannot do something ridiculous like speaking in foreign languages. However, the "alters" may have different views of life and have a different attention to reality. This disorder comes from severe dissociation which is a defense mechanism to severe and chronic psychological trauma. This dissociation makes me view the world distorted, far, and cloudy and causing me to constantly travel/wander with confusion about my identity and even my own body. There are gaps in my memory to the point I don't know who I am. All this is making me disturbingly act differently (according to my family) without being aware of who I am and what I'm doing. (Dissociative Fugue, Depersonalization-Derealization, and Dissociative Amnesia Disorder as well)
Samuel Vela That makes more sense.
this is because it is literally like having a different person in your body. their own personality, their own accents, body language, speech patterns, etc.
Speak for yourself. I've studied Japanese since middle school and unfortunately my condition has gotten worse since then so now there are some alters that are decently advanced while others have dissociative amnesia regarding that time period and are back to the basics. Though it seems to be happening with newly learned languages too. Most everybody can keep the Spanish but barely anybody remembers the Russian. My guess is that not everyone gets access to the same memories. Makes translating a real pain in the ass. Accents can happen too. I have a number of relatives with them and had a speech teacher who had a heavy southern drawl. All can, have, and will come out at some point. For example if I am very stressed I have an alter that comes out and tends to have a french accent. Why french? Probably because I associate it with my grandmother so it comforting and calms me down. Some are also affected by verbal dyslexia more than others and unless they finally disappeared one has retained the stutter that we all used to have. I agree they should have added more information about the disorder like the things you listed above but that doesn't mean what they did present doesn't exist just because you don't personally experience it.
no such thing as get attenx or not, do anyx and any can b perfx, fools. no such thing as need evidence, unimaginative dudes.
Alters are personalities, characters, not persons.
Actually alters are not personalities, they are described as people WITH personalities. They all have their own likes and dislikes amongst many other things that a "normal" person would have.
Actually, alters are alternate states of consciousness.