Top 10 Questions We Get About Building A Fender Custom Shop
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- Baxter and Jonathan cover the top 10 questions we get about wanting to build your custom shop. If you are thinking about building a custom shop then check this video out and see if it answers any of your burning questions. As always feel free to contact the shop for any other questions on starting your custom shop journey today!
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Wow ,the sheer nerd joy they have discussing custom shops. This may be the first time they never went off topic.
It was for sure nerd nirvana in the studio that morning:)
Wow! You guys made it through a whole video without talking about movies. I'm so proud of you! (Seriously, though, this is one of your better-produced vids)
Sometimes their tangents take up half a video unfortunately
It was a tough one to make it through but we did it…:)
We are pretty passionate about this so unfortunately the mental meltdowns had to be put on hold.
@@CasinoGuitars I could tell. I really felt they guy's passion when they are actually talking business about a topic they are probably amongst the most knowledgeable in the world. Kinda wish I could order a custom lefty from them, even though I live 6000 miles away or so in Japan. lol
@@ryanandring2688 Yeah they should really try to corral some of those tangents. Make a 18 min video a more watchable 12.
@@ryanandring2688 that’s one of the the things I love
‘Pickles are tight’ Hahaha. Loved that!
We need therapy:)
You thoughts on the "What would you do?" are spot on. But, I would add, most of us who know less than than about the possibilities will always appreciate any guidance/input, regardless of whether we ultimately take it.
Great video guys, I’m really enjoying your stuff.
Excellent video, and it prompted me to subscribe. You guys are fun to listen to.
Love u guys. Another Coffee and Casino morning.
I bought a used 2017 team built strat on Reverb a few years back for $2600 and It's the best strat I've ever played. Prices really took off after that so I'm glad I got mine.
Thats a crazy good price
Amazing deal and thrilled you found her!
Sounds like getting on the Packers season ticket list. You do it for your kids...by the time you get it...they can play along ;)
the best fender custom shops are : my partscasters ( tele and strat ) , easy to build these day's , you can buy and type off body , neck , pre loaded pick guard , hardware , ect . on the web , then put it all together , do you're own set up ( wich in my view is something every selfrespecting guitarist should be able to do ) and you're done , it's saves a shitload off money and you don't have to wait 1-2 years for a guitar wich is way to expensive anyways .
Good info Baxter and Jonathan. Thanks much.
Our pleasure!
Great video! Lots of great information.
Thank you very much!
Great video ... thanks guys!!
Thanks for infotainment on a dark day in Germany. Kept my mind of war and that kind of stuff
Eddie you got it and thanks for watching! I hope all heals itself over there sooner than later and know we are feeling for everyone in that part of the world as well!
Best to you and yours.
Great video guys,
Can’t wait to see the esquires 🤩
I think the key thing here with this is really knowing somebody that knows about the custom shop they could guide you through it they’re a lot of stories from the guys that know what they’re doing and the people that receive their guitars and how they’re just perfect and I also seen a lot of people who had this idea of what you’re post to get and you’re super disappointed I don’t know if that’s the sales person or the rep for custom shop or the idea of your thoughts coming into reality and not being there with you expected but I would definitely say go with somebody who knows about Fender custom shop
Michael we agree with those words completely! It really is a balancing act and you have to be careful not to work with folks that don't live and breath this world. It sure can be a fun and rewarding adventure when done right!
Interesting topic with lots of great info.
Thank you Charles!
The thing that got me to masterbuilt was getting something truly custom that was not possible in a team built. A great experience working with Baxter.
Andrew and what an awesome build that was!!! A pleasure working with you as well. Thank you for letting me help.
@@CasinoGuitars Hey Baxter. Still remember the painstaking decisions over every detail. Love having it here, but kind of miss the process and anticipation.
My two favorite guitars I own are Fender CS Teles, a 51 and a 60 Custom. Neither would have probably been what I ordered if given the options, but they're perfect for me.
you guys are awesome. I may be giving you a call soon! cheers
Props to Jonathon on the Wampler shirt. My fav pedals.
Great work, wish I could get one.
Thank you very much and maybe one day:)
Thanks for the video. I had a look at the 2022 guide, my question is if you can build one with stainless steal frets?
The guitar paul Waller did 3 days ago was next level relicing. He just upped fenders game. Damn in the last 6 years the relic has gotten better and better
Brilliant video! I think the best thing you implied here is it's always better to get another perspective. We all think we know what we would like, but often there's something we're not seeing. For instance, I always thought I knew what I wanted from my 'ideal guitar' until I bought a custom shop Strat. My first guitar had a U shaped neck and I absolutely hated it, so I've always gone for slim necks. But when I got my CS Strat it had a mid-60s 'chunky' C shaped neck. However the rolled fretboard edges made such a difference. It's an absolute dream to play! I think all Fender CS dealers should invest this time with their customers when it comes to builds, a happy customer is a customer who comes back. Thank you once again for a great video!
Nicola thank you so much for your kind words and thoughtful sharing here. It is a journey and one that can be very expensive if you don't have the right team to help. Thank you for sharing and have a super super day!
Did you mean rolled fret ends when you said fretboard or is it really the fretboard that’s rolled?
@@tonepilot they smooth off the edges of the fretboard along the top & bottom, making them rounder. This makes the guitar neck more comfortable to play.
@@nicoladolby2154 Nice, I didn’t know that was a thing. Something I’ll have to look for in the future.
You guys totally had your "Do you want to go do karate in the garage???" Moment there with your matching Esquires lol
Man that made me smile:)
Medium jumbo frets with hand-wound 58's and or 63 pickups with a soft-V neck are what I would be going with if it's a Strat with the '63 body to start. It also should be ash and with a black aged body and white or mint pickguard. If it's a Tele, I'm going for exactly what Jonathan said in regards to the bridge pickup, but would like a PAF-type humbucker in the neck position to get a bit of a Keith Richards-like tone but not too wild. I'd also go with a '52 ash body to start it off with a (and yes, I know, it's basic as hell) black-guard aged butterscotch finish and with a 4 way switch with the controls flipped over so the pickup selector is further away than the typical setup. Both would need to have aged maple fingerboards as well. That's just a preference for myself, but that's the beauty of it all...you can get what you want if you have the money and the patience!! Also...I would choose Todd Krause as my guy even if it takes longer for me to get em. Ron Thorn also would be on my list too, but I really love what Krause has done in the past.
Honestly, I can't tell you guys how many times I have printed out the forms and filled them out and ready to order as a Masterbuilt. If I ever am finally able to do it, I will most definitely drive my ass from NW GA to NC to order it through you because I see and hear the passion for these guitars and the understanding that everyone is going to go for SOMETHING different than others so you'd be my guys by a long shot!
Great shop .. I haven't been there yet .. but I've bought several guitars from Gian .. very nice guy .. all guitars arrived safe and sound. Highly recommend Gino's ..
that timeline info kind of knocked out my craving for a masterbuilt jaguar bass. wow
It can be crazy. Fortunately we are still within the two year timeline for most master builds :)
Just ordered mine here in the UK after watching this vid a few times
Great video. I love FCS guitars, own three, would love to have more. One minor peeve I have with the relics is the very rusty hardware. It looks bad and isn't correct--if you look at 60-70 year old Fenders they don't have rusty hardware.
The tele in my avatar has fender “original vintage” line pickups. They are definitely distinct and amazing. They were stock on the 52 avri from the 2000s to 2012. They definitely changed after that.
Every now and then Fender has an amazing set of pups in a production model and they are amazing. Well done on that one!
Good stuff, y'all!
I almost get excited about building such a thing, then I look at my bank account...
I love the 6105s on my Strat
They are great frets!
Good info right here
Glad it was helpful!
I have a 2016 team built ltd '58 jazzmaster. That thing is sweet.
Nice piece there!
The twisted tele neck pickup is amazing I always liked the humbucker in the neck until I heard the twisted tele now I’m like humbucker who?🎸🤯🔫
my custom shop tele has the 51 nocaster/twisted tele combo - unbelievable combo
Thanks guys, I really dig your feeds. Unless I run into a huge sum of moneys somehow I can't see myself justifying a master build although I'd love to order one! I'm hoping to buy a custom shop guitar one of these days though. None the less, great information and real interesting... thanks again 👍
Thank you Thomas! We are happy you enjoyed it:)
Not that I’m an expert but why pay 6000 for a master build when Taylor and Martin and those great builders have such huge selections of great guitars? I dunno that’s just me.
@@R.L.Humpert , it’s pretty simple. Just more detail and more time put into something for a more fine tuned product.
You’re right too…. You can find plenty of great normal production line guitars as well. It all comes down to simply desiring to treat yourself to something a bit more special 🤙
@@R.L.Humpert PS - My Martin GPC 28E was just about 4K once every thing was said and done too…. So the 6k really isn’t even THAT much more of a stretch now is it…. 😉
@@TommySG1 yea I get it. I thought I spent a lot on my Taylor 324ce it was 2300. One day I will go even more all out god willing. Let me ask you tho. Of all the custom builders, I guess that’s what they’re called. Which builder would you go with that makes a super fine guitar in that 6-8k range? I get into it with those guys from Driftwood guitars because they really like to laugh and out down other companies like a Taylor for producing more guitars in one day than they do in a year. But I don’t think a high end Taylor is going to sound much worse than one of their custom guitars. What are your thoughts on that? Driftwood actually used your video of the Taylor factory to laugh at the Taylor v class Taylor makes. I know I keep asking questions but I find this stuff so interesting. So I got the 324ce solid wood mohagany top and Tasmanian Blackwood back and sides. It sounds amazing. What are your thoughts on this model from Taylor? Hey thanks guys and God bless you!
How about a vid on Abby/Josephina pickups vs Teambuikt pickups..?
Great idea! We will put that in the think tank:)
Love these type of videos! Random question, you mentioned that stainless steel frets would only be a Masterbuilt option, what about a modern truss rod? A truss rod adjustment located on headstock. All the relic custom shop guitars I see have them located at the heel.
Truss rods are not master build to go modern:) And hopefully the stainless steel frets will change back soon to team build!
It's hard to figure out which specs you like. I don't know if other shops do this but I wish my locals would have a spec tag on the guitars so if i'm playing something I like the feel of, I could take a look at what exactly it is. Most time I end up on my phone searching for the guitar in my hand and I feel like that shouldn't be necessary
do you have any
input on the
difference between
brass bridge saddles
trem block, headstock
nut
compared to modern materials used
when it comes to
sustain and tone ?
there seemed to be a
brass rush
in the mid to late 70's
that continued
into the next decade for a while
Custom shop guitars have a certain flair but I'm happy with my 59 stratocaster thin skin from 2008, nitro lacquer, 54 custom pus, 7,5 lbs and a 9'5 radius ("poor" man's custom shop)
Those are great pieces. I have a Wildwood thinskin jazz master that is super (just changed the bridge)!
I just bought a fender strat cs 60’s nos. The neck on it is too fat. Hurts my hands playing it. The advice Sweetwater gave. Keep playing, it will get better. Your thoughts?
I literally watch all of your videos…like binge watch them while I’m practicing and getting blazed…what I wouldn’t do for you guys to do a FCS video on BASSES, especially the new one..the P Bass special looks awesome, but why is it so much more expensive than other team built basses.?
Thanks a ton for that and you have a great idea there. We have been talking about doing some on the old basses. And yes those are a but more expensive. We will check to see what is going on with those prices. And yes again..they were really cool!
The only decision I would know for sure is that it has to be double bound Tele.
Good cal!! Double bound Teles are so classy looking!
@@danielphillipsmusic9145 Yes they are. Especially when they black and bound in the sorta faded looking white binding. I don't have a Tele with binding but I do have a cherry red 335 and sometimes I literally just sit and stare at the binding. My wife tells me she wishes I would stare at her like I do my guitars. LOL!
Nice, love the binding on the tele's!
My tele is custom like that and it's the mother of all teles. Nobody's is nicer imo.
Did not know you shipped to the uk could be tempted lol
Dang I haven’t had fried okra in too long, thanks for the reminder!
Will they put a Tele bridge pickup in a Strat?
did you get the contrasting esquires ?
My Tomatillo strat has a 63 C neck, can confirm it's a very nice neck profile haha.
Nice! I do love those!
i wanna get another CS i want Jimis EXACT monterey pop red strat that he sacrificed but i want it LEFT HANDED.
"Pickles are tight"
Baxter 2022
That's for my re-election campaign...:)
How much is a CS with BAMF turquoise inlaid on the fretboard?
Would you be able to get a 24” scale length tele on a team build? Or a master build?
The only thing I would be sure of if I ever got a custom shop is the color: if I’m spending that money, it’s gotta be daphne blue over pink paisley!
I have had some custom scale lengths before but I am not positive if that is still available in team builds at the moment.
Casino Guitars, how long does it usually take to get a response from Fender when you send off the Custom Shop paperwork? What is the turn around time to get the quote back from them?
Preston it can be all over the place. If you are lucky...within a day or two. But more likely it can be anywhere from 1 week to quite a few. They just get slammed over there sometimes! But rest assured, everyone is trying to get them done as soon as possible.
My luthier and I have been building great guitars. They're all parts casters. Frankly I'd put my Strats against anything ever built. Do the science. Save a ton and dial it in.
What about weight? How specific can you be? Great video.
You can sort for light weight which gets you in a ballpark...or you can select an exact weight which will set you back way more than I think is worth it:)
How long does the actual build take?
im the guy from Vermont Waiting on a Ron Thorn Masterbuild AKA Thors Hammer !!! So excited for when the time comes to drive down and see the fellas and slay my %$#@*&
Inflation doesn't matter. They're already inflated.
Keep in mind all the musical greats from the past had of the shelf instruments.
When the time comes for me to get a custom shop, I will definitely buy from Casino. I know it will definitely be team built. But Tele or Jazzmaster? British Racing Green JM or 50’s Style Nocaster Blonde Tele with a humbucker in the neck? But like I said, when the time comes it will be bought from Casino. And I will pester them with questions throughout the whole process.
Rough idea if I ever had the cash to ever get a Fender custom Shop,
reverse offset body 24.75 scale either a electric 12/maverick headstock or jaguar headstock. Bound neck with blocks, rosewood fingerboard. Lollar goldfoil in the neck slanted like a Mosrite neck pickup. Jazzmaster in the bridge with jaguar/jazzmaster trem system. In Sherwood green.
Think it would just be too wacky to work and I should stick with my Eastwoods?
I say yes...I love the weird ones!
An esquire is still my dream guitar. Maybe someday a team built will be possible.
I was just scheming with Jonathan about that today as well:)
Do you pay up front or as the build goes on
Would an apprentice build be cheaper?
So CS vs aftermarket bespoken neck and body from a small bench builder?
I have many types of new and used guitars ranging from 400 - 4k USD and just can't land on one preference, so it would not make any sense for a custom build. I really want a tele and explorer but need to decide which current guitars to part with, or perhaps time to move some pedal 8-).
Sell the pedals...:)
Thankfully i bought my two Fender Custom Shop strats years ago before todays crazy prices.
The first was a Fiesta Red "Hank Marvin" and had to go for a masterbuilt to get the spec i wanted.
it was stunning when i eventually received it.
The second went badly wrong. it was a team built Bonnie Raitt Strat, and after waiting almost
2 years, i was in tears when it arrived, the blue burst finish had no burst at all, it was covered
in fine scratches, all the screw heads were chewed up, a small but visible ding in the headstock.
I rejected it, and thankfully the dealer helped me to get Fender at their expense upgrade the order
to a masterbuilt, 18 months later i had the guitar as it should have been.
I hope my experience of a team built is a rare, but i have heard of other buyers rejecting them.
Today i would never order any more from Fender, the prices are way too high with no guarantee
of the quality of what you will receive.
For the same price of a team built, i have found an excellent luthier capable of building
a master built guitar at less than team built prices.
I realise that since they are not Fender Custom Shop models ,they will never sell for anywhere
near the same price, but they are keepers, and are a delight to play.
You pays your money and take a big chance.
Thank you for sharing your story there. I am happy it worked out for you in the end. We fortunately haven't had that experience too often.
Can you still order an Elite Strat?
Daintily indeed
🔸⚡✨‼️
What if you want a wood that you lot only ever offered once, and even then just for a brief second? I'd love a matching pale moon tele bass.
Bah. I just looked at the design guide. No dice on the Royal Ebony fretboard.
Jesus, if you're going to Masterbuilt because you have to have stainless steel frets or pickup combinations, you may want to rethink priorities. $3000 upcharge is a big much.
Plus at 68 months on the outside of build time, I think you could have ordered and been playing a new Dumble in less time...
I've been a luthier for 15+ years, and I'm still blown away by $7000 & 8000 Strats and Teles. They are still slabs of alder with a maple neck bolted to it.
And yes, the neck is probably going to have the most consistent effect on the tone from one guitar to another. With Les Pauls I find a more consistent tonal difference between the slim 60 and rounded 50's than I do with solid body vs chambered vs weight relieved. Though I do find chambered tend to be brighter than the other 2.
I agree, Tim. In the end, Fender's are slabs of wood bolted together. What they are charging for their Custom Shop guitars is outrageous to me. And don't get me wrong, I love Fender. But, with that $3,000.00 upcharge for a Masterbuilt, just think of what you could pick up used on Reverb. You could buy your Teambuilt and have another sweet guitar, as well.
Some of these decisions are intimidating!
We agree and that is why we really try to make it fun, easy to understand, and a great experience all around.
If you get a team build, do they tell you who worked on it?
I topped out with my American Original P and J. If I won the lottery that would change thou.
Cigarette burns on the headstock? I had a 65 neck 67 body tele that had some charring.
when you say more wood do you mean weight OR size bid differance
?? do you ever have
the Wide Range
pick-ups
requested for
Stratocaster builds'
I am refinishing a Telecaster sun burst or should I do a metallic red wt and blue with a matt finish!?
Pink with purple polkadots
Metallic!
Did I just hear that you can't get SS frets on a Team Built? Also, what are the deposit requirements? 50%? 25%? (Does it depend on how weird the build is?) Thanks!
YEah thats weird.
I wouldn't buy anything without stainless steel frets
Do you folks accept orders from customers abroad?
I’m UK based and have a good bunch of stores here I could through, but I feel the customer service would be a bit more personal through you folks!
Not sure if there would be any crazy tax stuff though 🤔
Someday I will own a NOS ‘64 purple metallic Strat
I'm an American watching from Lviv Ukraine now. This is a nice distraction while we still have power and internet.
I won't ever leave these people behind, I'm with them till the end. But... if you want to know the second reason, it's because all my guitars are here!
Ever such good luck man. Just hope someone puts that crazy (Ras)Putin out of his misery!
Most of the world is standing behind you and your guitars - including this sympathetic Englishman. Keep On Rocking In The Free World.
We are all standing with you guys and one of our teams family members is heading over there very soon actually. And we are also thrilled to distract as much as possible with guitar goodness while the world is acting insane.
All of our hearts to you and yours over there and all of our love as well!
May God bless you and all the good people of Ukraine. I hope you and your guitars stay safe.
@@duanewelsh5611 good people? Ukraine is full of nazis
My Squier bullet is perfect.Just new tuners.
Im more of a Classic Vibe guy:)
Great video! When y'all pointed out to me that getting a Josefina in a fairly basic 51 P bass build idea I had y'all look at would move it from team built to masterbuilt I had to really think hard. Is that pick up really worth a 3k increase? Should I just go team built with a handwound 55 P pickup like in my CS Time Machine 55 P? (which is awesome) Or should I, if I'm going to pay the upcharge, make it worth it and get more creative and put some real thought into it? I decided to hold off a couple years til my 50th birthday, and maybe take the MB plunge. Y'all did a really great job in just that short interaction I had with you. Better than other's I've seen. (I went through a quote process about 7 years ago before stumbling on my CS 55 P barely used and couldn't pass it up) When I finally do get around to ordering it. Even though you're so far away. You're definitely getting my business. Keep up the great work!
You can get Josefina pickups in team built guitars! No need to go masterbuilt for that option. I have two team builds on order now, both done in the last two months and they’ve got Josefina pickups in the order. Sorry if I wasn’t understanding your comment correctly!
@@mattwork99 interesting, that’s not what I was told. I wonder if it’s different because I was ordering a Bass and they have less options at the teambuilt level. I know Fender in the past ten years at every level really started treating Basses like an afterthought as opposed to just as important as the guitars like they used to when Mike ran the shop. So bassists getting less options wouldn’t surprise me.
@@danielphillipsmusic9145 sadly I think you’re correct. The bass may be the issue. I took a quick look at the custom shop order form on their web site and while it’s not 100% clear, there didn’t look to be a Josefina option on the bass pickups. It’s there for Strat/Tele. And to be even more confusing they did pull the Josefina team built option on ALL guitars for some time. In fact many videos mention it as not an option anymore. No idea when they brought it back, but I can at least confirm for strat/tele it’s an option.
I just did a strat order I. Dec and Josephinas are masterbuilt level now
@@scottschmidt5198 I did one in January 2022 and one yesterday. Both allowed Josefina team built pickups. Guessing they added it back in 2022 orders.
What is that black & white strat back there?
:) That was one a friend painted for me just this week for my birthday...funny thing is my birthday is in August...but I'm not telling anyone:)
16:14 I'd like to see THAT headstock. :P
I want an olive drab Statcaster with tv jones and a bigsby that’s all I want
How much do you require for a deposit?
How does a Fender Custom Shop compare to something like a Sadowski? They're both hand made, bolt on guitars, how much difference can there really be? How much can either company innovate within the very tight constraints of a Strat guitar or a Jazz bass?
I have seen the pieces at the FCS improve dramatically over the past few years really putting a strain on a large number of the boutiques. Both there are great companies though!
@@CasinoGuitars a rising tide lifts all boats!
If I have to wait 6 years for a guitar or amp I'm looking elsewhere. I'm not a Fender fan anyway but I still wouldn't wait that long for a Gibson Custom shop. I wouldn't forget about the guitar and it would drive me crazy knowing that I have a guitar on the way.....in 6 years! Lol
That's "Toan Time" you pay for though. /s 6 years is a joke. You can got to Medical School in less time. Alas, there's sucker born every minute....
"Toan" time??
It is nuts...that's for only two of their master builders and they just have such a wait list that it will be impossible for them to catch up. But damn their pieces are amazing!
Could you do like a Maverick or another model that isn't in production?
Sometimes...those usually need special approval and tend to be master builds:)
@@CasinoGuitars Good to know!
Looks like fender masterbuilder takes as long to make a guitar, as eastern germany took to make a car :D
Will Fender custom shop do southpaw versions of anything and will the bill be more than the right handed counterpart???
99% of the time there is no uncharge for doing a custom shop left handed!
@@CasinoGuitars very cool. Thanks for the response
6 years! Holy cow.
Absolute madness, we agree
Very informative and interesting video. I would never pay that kind of money or wait that long for a guitar. I have a Nash strat and Tele and IMO they are every but as good as a CS for way less money.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and that is fantastic that you have found the "one(s)" with the Nash pieces!
I want a six and a half pound Ash Strat. Can the custom shop do it?
And...YES:)!