Long terms reviews are the best. I stopped riding motorcycles 34 years ago, but after retirement I'm looking for a motorcycle again. Monday I will be trying a DL650 V-strom 2004.
Mine is a 2009, bright orange beautiful color, bought it new and now have 34,000 miles of trouble free riding. Uses 87 regular gas, consistently gets 55 miles per gallon and easily 300 miles per tank, still on the original front and rear brake pads, still on the originalchain and sprocket, run Michelin Anakee 3 tires and consistently 10,000 miles from a set, never a problem. Haven’t even touched the valves yet, starts right up and runs and shifts very smooth. Has the MadStad windshield mount with a tall touring screen, also dropped the pegs with a lowering kit as I am 6’2”. I also sit on an air hawk air cushion seat which totally eliminates the seat vibration
Have mine ('06) for 10 years - been all over Europe. Bullet of an engine. Totally under-rated. Can do anything and it sits on the motorway all day at 75mph (120kph) - very comfortable seat. Sooner or later we all gravitate towards the logical choice... ;)
@@Pushing_the_cathinone_limits_ well engine size i know is similar but the DL feels more substantial. I have riden it across Europe several times - extremely comfortable, big tank and with a good rack theres loads of space. It purrs at 80mph. Engine is bulletproof; makes me confident to go anywhere and people have!
@@ronanoboyle8432 sounds just the ticket. I'd be looking at a slightly older model but after 2010. Hows do you find the fueling ? Smooth ? In winter its essential for good throttle response ! I'm just looking forward to having room for the wife ! Neither the drz or the s4r are happy with passengers. The more I look the better they get so thankyou for the feedback
@@Pushing_the_cathinone_limits_ i ride it all year here in Ireland and never noticed any fueling issues - ECU!! They warm up quickly anyway. Its perfect for one + gear, with two people youre not exactly breaking speed records. If i was bringing my wife on tours i might be thinking of 800+cc??
I bought 2008 Vstrom 650 dl 5 years ago,I have traveled from Ireland through The Alps to Monaco,Millau Viaduct,Throught Dolomites to Bosnia and back,I love it that much I have ordered a NEW 2020 model for my 65 birthday which is in 3 weeks time,it will be my first new bike since I bought Honda 50 new in 1972,it cost £140,I was 16 then.My new vstrom will be the 25th bike that I,v owned
Hi Pat, those are some serious trips :) I actually sold my Vstrom to a friend about 18 months ago who liked it so much he also recently bought a new 1050 Vstrom which he's also loving :)
Had mine for 15 years now, and 165,000km. A lot of dirt. A lot of long distance. Zero issues apart from the usual consumables, tryes, chain/sprockets, oil changes, spark plugs etc. Use 98 premium and it gets 24km/lt or 69 mpg at normal highay limit. Great bike,. Happy trails
Congratulations! I've just come back from a long weekend touring Scotland on mine. Nearly 1000 miles and it never missed a beat and was a great touring machine, and fun too :)
thats sweet! i have a 06 dl650 as well. any advice you can give me? have owned my for a couple of years and have only put maybe 1500 miles on it, sad because i live right next to the rocky mountains. got the shinko 705 on the back and a anakee 3 tire on front.
LEDs won't pass an MOT around here and rightly so, bloody dangerous as they such a restricted visible area, no side on light. It's called called contributory negligence in an accident should the worst happen 😎
Cracking bikes, best bike I've owned in 40 years of riding....best colour too👍 for an adventure bike at 193kg these are feather weight compared to the competition, some are 240kg now.
Great review. I've got a 2010 DL650 model version of your bike. I agree with all your comments. It performs most types of riding well, is easy to understand and maintain and is a joy to own and ride.👍
Had a similar looking 1000 for 3 years. Toured all over Europe with no issues. Changed it for a 650 version 2 in 2014 and still own it. Have travelled 43,000 miles around the world, again with no issues.
My 2008 (2nd one) will be with me for the duration. I agree with your review 100%. At 6'3" the Suzuski Tall screen (on a Madstad bracket) it perfection. I use Pelican cases for panniers. Long days, camping, on tarmac and dirt/gravel, this bike always does what I ask of it without fail. Comfort for a 600 mile day came as a surprise, but should not have.
I'm a 2004 650 owner here. With me since 2019, it is my first big bike. Bought it with 31.000km. The only problem I had was the headlight connect that melted, a known issue on the early models. It now reaching 66.000km. I love this thing.
I bought an 09 model in 2011 and loved it. Sold it in 2016 because of a back injury. Yesterday 25/11/2020 I bought a new ( old ) 09 model again. The DL650 are such a reliable and bulletproof bike. I absolutely love it. Great review mate.
Excellent choice! I have a 2012 650 with 5500 miles on it. I love this bike. Nice and quiet, but a pleasant rumble when drifting down a hill in town. It's not a good looking, strong attention grabber in town, but the headlights get enough attention to where no one has pulled out in front of me yet. Commuting I get around 60 MPG at speeds averaging 45-55 MPH. I've traveled on wildlife management areas and braved a few muddy roads for off roading. I will get rid of the street tires before any more mud. The only malfunction I've heard of is a stator going bad, but not for me yet. It wouldn't surprise me if I never have a malfunction with this bike.
@@advorlando9855 2 and a half years and not a single issue with mine. A friend has had his for 18 months and not a single issue with his either. Great bikes :)
@@RichRides Some have gone beyond the 200 000 km mark ! It's a war horse… If I was not broke, I'd have one in my garage, next to my beloved Triumph Street Twin…
I've had my 2008 for eight years and have done three 2000 plus mile tours on it, one was over 4000 miles. I have added practical additions, including a 16 tooth sprocket up front, but other than that, nothing. I feel the same way that you do: every time I look to replace I find that I cannot justify doing it. The only option seems to be a 2nd bike. Great, honest review. Thanks.
My experience with 16 tooth front sprocket is lowered revs by 400rpm @ 100kph, taking it further away from the fat torque zone. It also got worse fuel economy as the engine was labouring more and further from it's most efficient operating band. It would only work if you were sustaining high speeds (120kph and above) for long periods on flat terrain. Cheers.
@@MrBenHaynes HI Ben and thanks for your reply. I would agree, but I've found that rather than losing the torque curve, it has changed it a bit, putting a bit higher in the rpm. I live in a big city and spend an inordinate amount of time getting out of it using four lane highways. The sixth gear helps. The biggest difference has been in first gear. It's probably psychological, but I always felt the engine was a bit busy over seventy mph. Happy riding!
Good review. I’d agree with most of what you say. I’ve just passed my mod 2, and my 2008 V-Strom is my first bike. I’ve pimped it up with engine bars, hand guards etc etc. Only bug bear is the lack of a centre stand, might get one. It’s a solid bike. 👍
This was my first big bike too 👍 Mines the GT model so thankfully came with a lot of extras and then more were fitted too. The centre stand is super useful for maintenance and oiling the chain etc
Rich Rides Ye, put bobbins on and got a paddock stand, but it’s more awkward in a confined garage on your own. Should’ve just gone for it. I’ve got to stand on the rear brake for it to do much (ABS version). Is yours the same? The bandit I learned on had a better rear brake. The front ones mustard though, much better than the bandit 🤔
I've just returned to the UK in December and have only managed to get out on my new bike once so far! I'm hoping the weather warms up and improves soon too!!!
Nice video. After viewing many like this and reading numerous reviews, I bought a new 2017 Vstrom 650 XT and love the bike. It's my fourth bike -I still have 3 including the new Strom. It's by far my favorite street bike (I also have a dirt bike). The power surprised me, very quick for it's engine size and weight. And the handling is just excellent. I have to ride 5 miles on gravel roads to hit pavement and the Strom just eats it up. I do plan on replacing the factory tires with something more aggressive - probably the new Dunlop TrailMax Mission. I am amazed at how well both the ABS and the traction control systems work. Thanks again for your vids! -Ray near Durango, Colorado.
Excellent review. The front forks are preload adjustable on this model (not so on the current iteration). I find a MRA VarioScreen spoiler just the ticket for resolving buffeting issues. The stock screen has three height adjustments for the seasons. (I've tried madstad brackets and monster Givi screens) The best value addition would by far and away be a set of Oxford brand "Hot Grips". Pure Bliss! Bang on all rounder, it's a gem of a motorcycle for those not into "social climbing" 😅 It's so reliable and frugal that I leave the valve adjustments, tyre/chain/sprocket replacement to the bike shop (completed with annual registration inspection). I am keeping mine because I prefer the "dated" dash to the LCD screens that are busy and difficult to read in sunlight. A lot of bikes in this category now come with restricted outputs to comply with learner (A2?) requirements, making this model even more attractive.
Thanks for the comment and all the info that will be really useful for others. As well as the normal screen, I used a Givi touring screen which I found great with my height and helmet combo. And yes, heated grips are a must for winter riding too but I prefer the R&G ones to Oxford because of the (imo) big ugly control box of the Oxford unit. I sold this bike just over a year ago to a friend who loved it but has just traded it in for a new V-Strom 1050 as he's become a bit of a V-Strom fan too :)
Have the same bike for over 3 years now and am absolutely satisfied with my choice. The engine is bulletproof as the other parts too. Had no issues in 14.000 kms. I am a weekend rider doing mostly daily tours btwn 100 and 300 kms in the Bavarian hills and the Alps, and the bike is just perfect for what I do. As I am 6'4" (1.96 m) I find the screen a little bit smaller than I would need, but I had bikes with much worse aerodynamics too. Of course my friends' very first question was why I did not pick a big GS or the like, but, hey, what for? This bike perfectly matches my riding abilities (I am 51), and I do admit that I am not and will not be the best rider around therefore I don't think I would be happier with 150+ bhp. I ride 90% quiet and twisty B roads and no motorways wherever I go. The bike is just perfect for that. Fuel economy is excellent. Great comfort. Classy V2 engine with tons of torque. Would be just silly to spend twice or three times the money for sthg "better" whereas the "adventure factor" would barely change. I love the "ride and hike" style of touring, I take photos, I go for a long walk wherever I happen to take a break, and I really enjoy a cup of Italian coffee in a small town my bike standind at the corner.That's what I'm telling people. Don't buy an expensive GS but, instead, see more of and enjoy the world and have fun with a reasonable adventure bike. In this case less is much more. Long live the V-Strom experience. Cheers from Germany.
2010 dl650 here. Great bike ive owned since new. Only things ive changed are heated grips, fitted a dl1000 seat (thicker foam) , givi windscreen. (Taller for more wind protection). Mirrors ( a common fault, ball joint) broke.
@@ridingwithjoshua1351 ebay, i got a different one, more of a diamond shape. bu the ball joint was much stronger and had a wider rear view. much better
thanks for the info, been looking at one today, being a short legged person, they said they could fit a reducing kit, but i was wondering if that impacted handling performance,
Glad you found it useful. Lowering kits are fairly common (done with new drop links) and shouldn't make a noticeable difference to most riders. If anything it will slightly lower the centre of gravity which is a good thing anyway.
Looking for a 2009 model here in Belgium, I liked the review! Been riding a Bandit 600 naked from 2001 ... for about 10 years now ... I think I'll like the more torque from the V-twin ... I'm a bit bored with revving the engine really high on the bandit ...
V twins have lovely torque curves and you’re right about revolution no. I went from a VTwin to a triple and the extra revs mean more noise, more heat and more vibration. Can’t really wait to get back to a twin.
Just bought me a 650DL 2008 cant wait to try it out , I have a 1984 Yamaha Venture Royale 1200 and as I am a new rider the bike is too fast and too heavy for me ( 65 ) so the 650DL was recommended by my local dealer as a lower geared machine , i have done my safety course on a Honda 650 which was fine so hopefully this wont be too different
They really are a great bike. Although a little tall for some shorter people, it's an easy bike to ride and not intimidating so I think you'll get on great :)
@@RichRides I'm 5'10 with a 32 inside leg. Do you think I'd have a problem with the DL? Currently own an cbf 500 and want something new. Tried the versys 650 but I was on the balls of my feet with that (think that was 33.6 seat height)
@@rolfenmonster The vstrom seat is slightly lower (but not much) than the Versys at 32.9. Another option may be to use a lowering kit. These aren't that expensive but can make a big difference to the height. Here's an example one for the vstrom www.lustracing.co.uk/suspension/suzuki-dl650-v-strom-lowering-kits.html
It's a great touring and all round bike. I've done a bit of touring and lots of miles around Scotland and it was both fun and comfortable. Go for it :)
I picked mine up 4 months ago for AU$3000 - 2006 with 50000km, 10 months rego, top box and staintune exhaust. Put about 3000 on it so far and love it 👍
I use a full face Shoei Qwest which I do love as a helmet. It's a lot lighter and quieter than the previous flip helmet I had. And my audio setup is a Ghost microphone in the helmet connected to a Drift Ghost X.
Best value bike in my opinion it will take you places and get you home. learn about the bike and it will serve you well mine is a red 05 dl650 and lives in the dirt.
Nice review, any observations about this bike in wet and muddy road conditions? I’m considering it as a second bike for tackling country lanes which are unavoidable where I live, and are often covered in a layer of mud (sometimes mixed with manure!) which is a particular problem when the road is also wet. Anyone experienced this, and with what tyres? Been looking at Battlax AX41 tyres but the knob Les might be more suited to deeper mud they can dig into than a thin layer on tarmac, and road tyres designed for the wet are presumably designed to drive out water and stick to the road, rather than a liquid mud & water mixture.
Hi Justin. I've used it in the wet with no issues and as I ride the country lanes near home and North Yorkshire with similar wet mud during winter I know what you mean. You obviously have to be extra careful but never had any big problems. I think knobblies would be worse on road (better off road) that more road focused tyres though. I was using Battlax Adventure A40's (I think the A41 is just a new version) which I do recommend for everything. Gripped well in all weather and even lasted well too.
Justin, their weight and top heavy distribution don't make them suitable for such conditions. I ride with Metzeler Tourances and battle through. My experience with Continental TKC 80's is vastly improved but they only get a third of the lifespan compared to the Tourances. Continental now make a TKC 70 Rocks (which might be a better compromise) www.continental-tires.com/motorcycle/tires/motorcycle-tires/off-road-enduro/tkc-70-rocks
I'm looking at an 07 Abs model with around 30k. What kind of maintance should of been done besides the basic oil chsnges etc? PS. Great review and nice bike.
Basically oil changes every 5k miles, and valve clearance checks every 15k. And of course the usual regular chain and general maintenance of any bike. Mine has just done 26k and I replaced the chain and spockets a few months ago. Hope that helps
I have an 08 with 32K miles. Love the bike. My only gripe is a stator failure, which is a common issue with a 650dl of that age. Replaced it myself, with help from youtube.
Nice review, looking to buy a new bike and browsing the web I have seen a few 2008 v storm 650's in my price range. Have you ridden any distance with a pillion on one?. Cheers.
I never really used it to take a pillion but I recently sold the bike (due to long term travel) and the friend who bought it from me, got it for just this purpose.
My partner sold her 650 this yr. I have the 1000. Now and again the extra power is nice. But I'm sorry I didn't sell the 1000 and keep her 650. It's a great all-rounder and handles Better on the secondary rds. If in doubt, go for the 650. Ps, the 1000 is a lot bigger and heavier.
Simpler bike, less to go wrong. Not shure l do agree on thee last negative point ther, but thats me. This is a absolute great bike and l love my 04 dl650. A great review sir..agree on all but he last negative point i guess.
Yes I love the bike but I always like to try and give a balanced review by pointing out any niggles or negatives. As I said in the review, I really struggled to :)
@@RichRides negativ for me is that the seat are to soft...so is the suspension, but then again its a 04 an may need a new spring. All in all I love the bike, just dont get tired taking it out for a ride.
@@RichRides as l come direct from sportsbike l prefere a bit firm suspension. With a pillion on the centerstand do hit the ground in tight turns and bumpy backroads. I did put on a 25mm jackup set on it and that made it better. Now it will live true the winter in snow and bad weather as a great commuter friend.
I looked at them and thought a little gutless down low front brakes and suspension a bit wooden and flexible I think the 2015 model fixes the front end. I come from the perspective of a Suzi 1200 Bandit so I am probably a little harsh on a small engine and something built for versatility.
Coming from a 1200 Bandit then yes I guess it will feel quite a bit less powerful. I found the brakes and suspension to be pretty good though. It's obviously not a sports bike so not up to that standard though. As an allrounder, it really is a great bike though.
What brand of the crash bars are they? I bought a used bike with these crash bars but can't figure out the brand so I can buy a matching skid plate. Also what radiator guard are you running? Thanks
I don't have the bike anymore but I think they were the Suzuki bars. I'm not sure about the radiator guard either as this was also fitted already when I bought the bar. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful!
on my 2011 I found the anti lock rear brake to be dangerous on loose down hills so I un hooked sensor at the wheel, all better. I am just getting into gravel roads and ect. What do you run for tire pressure
Hi Nicolas. I've tried a few different ones (my previous one actually broke while riding but thankfully the cable stopped the phone falling off!) and this is the one I've been most impressed with so far as it's all aluminium rather than any plastic parts. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Bike-Bicycle-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Rotating-Aluminum-Mount-Holder-For-Phones/283036636020
I was confused about which bike to buy. 1st option Vstrom 2007 (11000 km) + gsxr 750 k4 (18000 km)..4000+3000 7000 euro 2st option ktm 1050 adv 2015 (31000 km) 6800 euro 3st option tracer 900 2018 (23000 km) 6900 euro 4st option kawasaki z1000 2008 (21000 km)+ honda vfr 800 vtec 2004 (50000 km) 4800+1900 6700 euro.. I chose the 1st option.I hope that i took the best disicion:) i will have the bikes this week
There are some great bikes in your options list so I think any would have been good :) With the option you've gone for, you'll have the great all round ability of the Vstrom and the GSXR for some sporty fun. And the Vstrom is hardly even run in at that mileage!
I am 6‘2“ 220 pounds, to get comfort I dropped the pegs with a lowering kit which made a big difference and I also sit on an air hawk seat which gives about another 1.25 inches seat height, and I can still flat foot. I bought the bike new in 2009 and I have 34,000 trouble free miles. 55 miles per gallon, always 300 miles per tank or more, 10,000 miles out the front and rear tires, and still have the original front and rear brake pads and the original sprocket and chain
Maybe one of the best all rounder out there. A couple of things I disagree with. The performance is only adequate especially two up but the v twin engine is designed for midrange not power and it's only a 650 .. The budget suspension punches way above it's weight. And the handling and road holding and stability on A and B roads roads is excellent . The brakes are OK but I've known better.
Yes they're a great allrounder that is often overlooked. Ref power then I guess it depends what you're used to and with another adult pillion and loaded up panniers the Vstrom 1000/1050 would be much better. I never had an issue with the brakes myself but of course, more modern large radial Brembos will be much better.
Hey guys. I'm looking at a 2008 with only 9,000 miles for $3000.. even though it's got low miles I'm a bit worried about it sitting for long stretches of time and I wondered what kinda maintenance issues I need to look for... It has been ridden this year about 4000 miles but it's been in storage for about 4 months.. Tell me your thoughts on what to look for when I go pick it up Thanks
Hi, wow, that really is low mileage for the year! The main issues with bikes sat for long periods (but way more than a few months) is rubber things perishing (fork seals, shock mounts etc) and metal things (like chains) rusting. Other things to check are inside the fuel tank for rust (I'd drain the tank and refill with new petrol as it doesn't last well) and the age/condition of the tyres too.
@@RichRides thanks man... He sent close up pictures of the chain and sprockets and tires etc... They all look pretty good but I'm sure I will have to at least swap tires
It's not a fully faired bike but the shape of the bike does protect you well from the wind and weather. I ride mine in winter too with no issues. I also fit my larger touring screen in winter as that then provides even more protection.
Could you please tell me how tall you are and do your feet get flat on the surface? The bike really looks great after 10 years. Your video is quite a recommendation for Suzuki. Thank you.
I have the same bike and I’m 5’9, my heels don’t touch the ground but it’s not that important I can still put my feet down fine. Don’t let the size scare you
No, not at all. If you're experiencing that then I'd suspect something isn't quite right. It could be fueling or something simpler like the throttle cable.
Power commander will solve that did not completely remove the injection hic- up at 3500 RPM so I don't run at that Suzuki said we put a 6 speed in it for a reason.
I've not ridden one, but apparently not really worth the extra and requires more engine maintenance. But as I say, I've not actually ridden one myself.
@@RichRides I have had a 2012 DL650 for four years. I have put every farkle you can think of and love it. I bought a 2014 DL1000 6 months ago thinking it would be better than my 650 and then sold it within 2 months. It was not as smooth as the 650 . Taller so had issues moving it around the garage.Yes slightly quicker than my 650 but a great deal. The Dl1000 was almost a wee bit agricultural compared to the 650. I also bought a Versys 1000 a year ago and found that too tall for me and top heavy when slow riding so I sold that too. Living in New Zealand sometimes you have to buy without trying it!Luckily I buy these bikes at a good price and have got my money back on them. I have ridden over 20 bikes in the last 4 years , including New Honda Africas 1000, triumph 800 both road and off road versions,triumph 1050 sport, harleys, Burgmans both 650 and 400, versys 650 and STILL go back to my DL650 as the best all rounder. I will never sell it ! I am going to buy another one, probably older and cheaper so when my son visits we can go out on rides...They are that good. In NZ 650's sell 4 to 1against DL1000!
@@mulegizmo Thanks for all the info. The 650 is more popular in the UK than the 1000 too. The 1000 also requires more maintenance so for me I prefer the 650.
@@MrBenHaynes i like too say carefull with how i spend my money.this bike will see me out.my transalp 600 iv had for 20 years.still starts on the button.this suzuki will be the same.
@@peterpyke1213 Awesome Peter! My advice is to find a low milage '08-'11 model (1st gen, twin plug) with ABS. They are (subjectively) the most aesthetically pleasing, have adjustable front forks, painted front mudguard and heaps of accessories available. The final 2011 model came in a very fetching shade of orange. I will be putting a low km replacement DL or SV 650 motor in my '09 model from a salvage bike should it ever require.
@@MrBenHaynes MINE IS A2016 WITH BEACK.HAD ALOT OF TROUBLE WITH WIND NOISE BEING THROWN UP AT ME.I WEAR AN OPEN FACE.LOOK A WHILE BUT CURED IT WITH ABS PLASTIC MODS TO FAIRING AND FRONT MUDGUARD AND FILL IN FAIRING AIR VENTS.ITS NOW PERFECT FOR ME.I THINK THE EARLIER MODELS DID NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM.IT WAS A REAL PROBLEM FOR ME.I LOVE MY V NOW
Absolutely NOT a "dual sport". I bought this identical bike....it is very nice on the street but in the dirt it is plain scary! Once tired if you go down it can be almost impossible to pick it back up by yourself depending on your physical condition ....you might argue the point but if the bike goes down on a hill? You better hope you have help! It's WAY WAY WAY more a touring bike and barely dirt worthy and then only on hard packed dry ....sand is MURDER.
Yes I wouldn't fancy riding in sand on anything other than a full on dirt bike myself! For me the definition of an adventure bike is something that can do some more serious off road and a dual sport is more road focused but can handle some light off road. I think the labels and lines between all these things are very blurred these days :)
@@RichRides It is just abuse of the term to start calling large street biased motorcycles "dual sport" ....here is a litmus test for anyone familiar with Motocross ....if you can not comfortably safely reasonably ride a motorcycle around a full on typical motocross track ? then you are not on a real "dual sport" motorcycle ....And yes a really good rider might be able to get even a cruiser or sport bike around certain milder MX tracks but they would of course know that we're performing a stunt as opposed to riding something that was naturally easy to circulate the track on....not saying that even a true DS bike would be particularly good at it (although SOME dual sports you could actually even race and beat a bunch of riders on if you are good) .... it would be the difference between people seeing it either saying "well THAT is just assinine" as opposed to simply..."okay it goes around the track fine but WHY ? What the this guy does not have a truck and money for a real race bike?" I feel that the ONLY reason the "lines are blurred" is because people keep abusing the terms. Dual Sport and Adventure are distinct categories where the only time it gets blurred is the legitimate use of a dual sport as their adventure bike .But no reasonable person is ever going to deliberately choose a street biased bike like a Vstrom to do rough single track etc. A really good Rider might do it as a challenge to show off his skill or whatever but is not going to straight faced claim it was any kind of good choice. I personally own an 08 DL650 and a Honda XR650L .....I COULD ride the XR anywhere I can the DL but NOT vice versa! The DL is a PIG of a motorcycle offroad! If it is not a bonafide maintained dirt ROAD that most cars could traverse then it is going to an Iffy scary proposition to ride the Suzuki on. Having said all this, I will take my Vstrom over the XR every single time if it is mostly highway with just some reasonable dirt roads included ....like 80/20 and a long ride? The Vstrom every time because it is so much more pleasant to ride on the highway! So comfortable for many hours in the saddle....just a joy! The XR on the highway is a chore after a short time, heat pours off the air-cooled motor and there is a lot of tire and chain noise and quick stops are harrowing compared to the Suzuki...I only take it when I NEED IT ...I need it whenever there is mostly dirt road or especially when it will be rough at all. But hey for you guys that want to insist on abusing the term "dual sport" by including 500llb heavily street biased motorcycles? Well its a free atmosphere to say practically anything ...but it just comes across as pretty ignorant if you ask me ....it annoys me enough to respond. And hey find me ANY motorcycle publication that is calling the Vstrom "dual sport" Or calling ANY large heavy multi cylinder motorcycle "dual sport" for that matter
@@dougiequick1 Thanks for all the info and as you say, lots of confusion around the terms and classes around styles of motorcycles which seems to be constantly growing and even more bikes these days that don't fit into any or cross many! I've probably incorrectly picked up the term dual sport myself from other people using it to describe more road focused adventure bikes as that's how I've heard it used. We're all constantly learning :)
I agree it is not that good off road, but it depends on the definition of off road - and, any off road work is best done if you are experienced in that sort of riding. With the right tires, I would take my '09 Wee on packed gravel logging roads and dirt roads if it is not muddy. Even the Beemer GS bikes are dicey off road if the surface is slick with mud or full of boulders and ruts. Most of the ADV bikes that are built for packed touring are too heavy to be good for technical stuff. So, in that, the V-strom is in good company. As for picking up a DL650, I use the BMW method and don't have any problems. Engage the front brake by slipping a glove over it or something, turn the bars so the tire is pointing to the sky, step in close, bend at the knees, grab the lower bar END with both hands and lift in a smooth motion. Yeah, it's a grunt if the bike is on a down slope, but it's way easier than any other way. My 63 year old bad back can testify under penalty of pain that this works best. All said, I can't find a single disqualifier in the V-Strom. Pretty much bomb proof and easy to own. The only thig I changed was the 15 tooth sprocket in front to a 16 tooth. Makes a lot of difference on the hi-way and is not a deficit from a dead stop because the motor has ample torque. Like having a 7th gear.
For a 650 "Dual Sport" ? The Suzuki DR 650 or Honda XR650L ...border line the KLR650...KTM 690...but NOT the DL650! NOT the Vstrom ...sorry it just does get that status. DL is a wonderful fun motorcycle just keep it out of anything at all loose and rough or else tremble!
I have a 06 1000. Lot bigger and heavier then the 650 ( which my partner had ). Lot more torque and faster, but saying that I find the 650 a lot lighter and flick able, plenty of power, easier through the corners and comfortable. The 1000 more roomy for 2 up, but the 650 is plenty of bike as an all rounder.
Long terms reviews are the best. I stopped riding motorcycles 34 years ago, but after retirement I'm looking for a motorcycle again. Monday I will be trying a DL650 V-strom 2004.
Did you buy it ? I hope so, it is a keeper !
Mine is a 2009, bright orange beautiful color, bought it new and now have 34,000 miles of trouble free riding. Uses 87 regular gas, consistently gets 55 miles per gallon and easily 300 miles per tank, still on the original front and rear brake pads, still on the originalchain and sprocket, run Michelin Anakee 3 tires and consistently 10,000 miles from a set, never a problem. Haven’t even touched the valves yet, starts right up and runs and shifts very smooth. Has the MadStad windshield mount with a tall touring screen, also dropped the pegs with a lowering kit as I am 6’2”. I also sit on an air hawk air cushion seat which totally eliminates the seat vibration
Have mine ('06) for 10 years - been all over Europe. Bullet of an engine. Totally under-rated. Can do anything and it sits on the motorway all day at 75mph (120kph) - very comfortable seat. Sooner or later we all gravitate towards the logical choice... ;)
I totally agree as it really is a "does everything well" and very reliable and dependable bike :)
I'm considering a new work/ light tourer for me and mrs P.
Any comparisons to the honda transalp ?
@@Pushing_the_cathinone_limits_ well engine size i know is similar but the DL feels more substantial. I have riden it across Europe several times - extremely comfortable, big tank and with a good rack theres loads of space. It purrs at 80mph. Engine is bulletproof; makes me confident to go anywhere and people have!
@@ronanoboyle8432 sounds just the ticket. I'd be looking at a slightly older model but after 2010. Hows do you find the fueling ? Smooth ? In winter its essential for good throttle response ! I'm just looking forward to having room for the wife ! Neither the drz or the s4r are happy with passengers. The more I look the better they get so thankyou for the feedback
@@Pushing_the_cathinone_limits_ i ride it all year here in Ireland and never noticed any fueling issues - ECU!! They warm up quickly anyway. Its perfect for one + gear, with two people youre not exactly breaking speed records. If i was bringing my wife on tours i might be thinking of 800+cc??
I bought 2008 Vstrom 650 dl 5 years ago,I have traveled from Ireland through The Alps to Monaco,Millau Viaduct,Throught Dolomites to Bosnia and back,I love it that much I have ordered a NEW 2020 model for my 65 birthday which is in 3 weeks time,it will be my first new bike since I bought Honda 50 new in 1972,it cost £140,I was 16 then.My new vstrom will be the 25th bike that I,v owned
Hi Pat, those are some serious trips :) I actually sold my Vstrom to a friend about 18 months ago who liked it so much he also recently bought a new 1050 Vstrom which he's also loving :)
Had mine for 15 years now, and 165,000km. A lot of dirt. A lot of long distance. Zero issues apart from the usual consumables, tryes, chain/sprockets, oil changes, spark plugs etc. Use 98 premium and it gets 24km/lt or 69 mpg at normal highay limit. Great bike,. Happy trails
I rode my 2004 DL 650 1540miles in four days this past march! All over southeast USA into Pittsburg! Bike did great!
Sounds like a great tour and some serious miles!
Just got me a 2007 v-strom like yours...can,t wait to ride on it . Great video, mate. Greetings from Bcn.
Congratulations! I've just come back from a long weekend touring Scotland on mine. Nearly 1000 miles and it never missed a beat and was a great touring machine, and fun too :)
I have a 2010 and love it ...it's so comfortable and has plenty of power. I have no issue taking it on very long tours.
this is the video that made me decide to get one, love it. thank you
Thank you and that's great to hear! They really are great bikes :)
Bought my 06 in 08; been on every kind of road (or no road at all) there is. Cannot say enough about this bike.
thats sweet! i have a 06 dl650 as well. any advice you can give me? have owned my for a couple of years and have only put maybe 1500 miles on it, sad because i live right next to the rocky mountains. got the shinko 705 on the back and a anakee 3 tire on front.
Believe me when I say that I prefer those indicators instead an LCD one. :)
LEDs won't pass an MOT around here and rightly so, bloody dangerous as they such a restricted visible area, no side on light. It's called called contributory negligence in an accident should the worst happen 😎
Cracking bikes, best bike I've owned in 40 years of riding....best colour too👍 for an adventure bike at 193kg these are feather weight compared to the competition, some are 240kg now.
Thanks for your review. Bought a VStrom 2008 yesterday and will be picking it up next week. Can't wait!
Enjoy! :)
How have you liked it so far? Im about 5'7 and thinking about picking up a 09 in the next couple days.
@@MelloHubb I just love my V-Strom! Is so easy to ride. I have enjoyed many days on my bike this year.
Great review. I've got a 2010 DL650 model version of your bike. I agree with all your comments. It performs most types of riding well, is easy to understand and maintain and is a joy to own and ride.👍
Thanks. And yes, they really are a great allrounder.
Had a similar looking 1000 for 3 years. Toured all over Europe with no issues. Changed it for a 650 version 2 in 2014 and still own it. Have travelled 43,000 miles around the world, again with no issues.
My 2008 (2nd one) will be with me for the duration. I agree with your review 100%.
At 6'3" the Suzuski Tall screen (on a Madstad bracket) it perfection. I use Pelican cases for panniers. Long days, camping, on tarmac and dirt/gravel, this bike always does what I ask of it without fail. Comfort for a 600 mile day came as a surprise, but should not have.
Great narrator clear, entertaining, straight to the point 👏 👍 👌 congratulations 👏
Thanks, and glad you enjoyed it!
I'm a 2004 650 owner here. With me since 2019, it is my first big bike. Bought it with 31.000km. The only problem I had was the headlight connect that melted, a known issue on the early models. It now reaching 66.000km. I love this thing.
I bought an 09 model in 2011 and loved it. Sold it in 2016 because of a back injury. Yesterday 25/11/2020 I bought a new ( old ) 09 model again. The DL650 are such a reliable and bulletproof bike. I absolutely love it. Great review mate.
Thanks and congratulations on the new bike! I totally agree that they really are a totally reliable do everything bike :)
thanks for your review, I think I'm going to get my DL650 soon :)
Thanks Antonio. As you can tell, I totally recommend the Vstrom :)
Excellent choice! I have a 2012 650 with 5500 miles on it. I love this bike. Nice and quiet, but a pleasant rumble when drifting down a hill in town. It's not a good looking, strong attention grabber in town, but the headlights get enough attention to where no one has pulled out in front of me yet. Commuting I get around 60 MPG at speeds averaging 45-55 MPH. I've traveled on wildlife management areas and braved a few muddy roads for off roading. I will get rid of the street tires before any more mud. The only malfunction I've heard of is a stator going bad, but not for me yet. It wouldn't surprise me if I never have a malfunction with this bike.
@@advorlando9855 2 and a half years and not a single issue with mine. A friend has had his for 18 months and not a single issue with his either. Great bikes :)
@@RichRides Some have gone beyond the 200 000 km mark ! It's a war horse… If I was not broke, I'd have one in my garage, next to my beloved Triumph Street Twin…
@@pateris The Street Twin is a great bike too :)
Love this bike! I hope one day I can get one...
They really are just a great allrounder.
Same bro
I've had my 2008 for eight years and have done three 2000 plus mile tours on it, one was over 4000 miles. I have added practical additions, including a 16 tooth sprocket up front, but other than that, nothing. I feel the same way that you do: every time I look to replace I find that I cannot justify doing it. The only option seems to be a 2nd bike. Great, honest review.
Thanks.
Thanks Herman, and those tours sounds great!
My experience with 16 tooth front sprocket is lowered revs by 400rpm @ 100kph, taking it further away from the fat torque zone.
It also got worse fuel economy as the engine was labouring more and further from it's most efficient operating band.
It would only work if you were sustaining high speeds (120kph and above) for long periods on flat terrain. Cheers.
@@MrBenHaynes HI Ben and thanks for your reply. I would agree, but I've found that rather than losing the torque curve, it has changed it a bit, putting a bit higher in the rpm. I live in a big city and spend an inordinate amount of time getting out of it using four lane highways. The sixth gear helps. The biggest difference has been in first gear. It's probably psychological, but I always felt the engine was a bit busy over seventy mph. Happy riding!
Good review. I’d agree with most of what you say. I’ve just passed my mod 2, and my 2008 V-Strom is my first bike. I’ve pimped it up with engine bars, hand guards etc etc. Only bug bear is the lack of a centre stand, might get one. It’s a solid bike. 👍
This was my first big bike too 👍 Mines the GT model so thankfully came with a lot of extras and then more were fitted too. The centre stand is super useful for maintenance and oiling the chain etc
Rich Rides Ye, put bobbins on and got a paddock stand, but it’s more awkward in a confined garage on your own. Should’ve just gone for it.
I’ve got to stand on the rear brake for it to do much (ABS version). Is yours the same? The bandit I learned on had a better rear brake. The front ones mustard though, much better than the bandit 🤔
It’s mid December and I can’t wait for the snow to melt.
I miss my bike.
I've just returned to the UK in December and have only managed to get out on my new bike once so far! I'm hoping the weather warms up and improves soon too!!!
Nice video. After viewing many like this and reading numerous reviews, I bought a new 2017 Vstrom 650 XT and love the bike. It's my fourth bike -I still have 3 including the new Strom. It's by far my favorite street bike (I also have a dirt bike). The power surprised me, very quick for it's engine size and weight. And the handling is just excellent. I have to ride 5 miles on gravel roads to hit pavement and the Strom just eats it up. I do plan on replacing the factory tires with something more aggressive - probably the new Dunlop TrailMax Mission. I am amazed at how well both the ABS and the traction control systems work. Thanks again for your vids! -Ray near Durango,
Colorado.
Thanks Ray and great to hear :) Be interesting to see how capable it is offroad with the more offroad focused tyres.
Excellent review. The front forks are preload adjustable on this model (not so on the current iteration).
I find a MRA VarioScreen spoiler just the ticket for resolving buffeting issues. The stock screen has three height adjustments for the seasons.
(I've tried madstad brackets and monster Givi screens)
The best value addition would by far and away be a set of Oxford brand "Hot Grips". Pure Bliss!
Bang on all rounder, it's a gem of a motorcycle for those not into "social climbing" 😅
It's so reliable and frugal that I leave the valve adjustments, tyre/chain/sprocket replacement to the bike shop (completed with annual registration inspection).
I am keeping mine because I prefer the "dated" dash to the LCD screens that are busy and difficult to read in sunlight.
A lot of bikes in this category now come with restricted outputs to comply with learner (A2?) requirements, making this model even more attractive.
Thanks for the comment and all the info that will be really useful for others. As well as the normal screen, I used a Givi touring screen which I found great with my height and helmet combo. And yes, heated grips are a must for winter riding too but I prefer the R&G ones to Oxford because of the (imo) big ugly control box of the Oxford unit. I sold this bike just over a year ago to a friend who loved it but has just traded it in for a new V-Strom 1050 as he's become a bit of a V-Strom fan too :)
@@RichRides Thanks, I didn't know of R&G Racing grips!
@@MrBenHaynes Here they are www.rg-racing.com/browsetype/grips/
Have the same bike for over 3 years now and am absolutely satisfied with my choice. The engine is bulletproof as the other parts too. Had no issues in 14.000 kms. I am a weekend rider doing mostly daily tours btwn 100 and 300 kms in the Bavarian hills and the Alps, and the bike is just perfect for what I do. As I am 6'4" (1.96 m) I find the screen a little bit smaller than I would need, but I had bikes with much worse aerodynamics too. Of course my friends' very first question was why I did not pick a big GS or the like, but, hey, what for? This bike perfectly matches my riding abilities (I am 51), and I do admit that I am not and will not be the best rider around therefore I don't think I would be happier with 150+ bhp. I ride 90% quiet and twisty B roads and no motorways wherever I go. The bike is just perfect for that. Fuel economy is excellent. Great comfort. Classy V2 engine with tons of torque. Would be just silly to spend twice or three times the money for sthg "better" whereas the "adventure factor" would barely change. I love the "ride and hike" style of touring, I take photos, I go for a long walk wherever I happen to take a break, and I really enjoy a cup of Italian coffee in a small town my bike standind at the corner.That's what I'm telling people. Don't buy an expensive GS but, instead, see more of and enjoy the world and have fun with a reasonable adventure bike. In this case less is much more. Long live the V-Strom experience. Cheers from Germany.
Glad to hear your experience was the same as mine. Enjoy 👍
yer great bike I thought about a new one but wasn't a fan of the beak so bought a 07 for cheap and love it
Yes, I really like this design but wasn't a fan of the 2 updated versions afterwards. I do like the new 2020 1050 though :)
2010 dl650 here. Great bike ive owned since new. Only things ive changed are heated grips, fitted a dl1000 seat (thicker foam) , givi windscreen. (Taller for more wind protection). Mirrors ( a common fault, ball joint) broke.
yea my left mirror ball join broke as well. im assuming you another one from ebay or somewhere?
@@ridingwithjoshua1351 ebay, i got a different one, more of a diamond shape. bu the ball joint was much stronger and had a wider rear view. much better
I'm 5'4" at 59kg and have a 1150gs big heavy adventure bike, it's how you ride it 😜
thanks for the info, been looking at one today, being a short legged person, they said they could fit a reducing kit, but i was wondering if that impacted handling performance,
Glad you found it useful. Lowering kits are fairly common (done with new drop links) and shouldn't make a noticeable difference to most riders. If anything it will slightly lower the centre of gravity which is a good thing anyway.
Looking for a 2009 model here in Belgium, I liked the review!
Been riding a Bandit 600 naked from 2001 ... for about 10 years now ... I think I'll like the more torque from the V-twin ... I'm a bit bored with revving the engine really high on the bandit ...
Thanks and yes I think you'll find the Vstrom a lot more relaxing but still lots of fun when you want it to be :)
V twins have lovely torque curves and you’re right about revolution no. I went from a VTwin to a triple and the extra revs mean more noise, more heat and more vibration. Can’t really wait to get back to a twin.
112.000km on the DL650 K6 of my father, still runs, and runs, and runs... and runs... and runs...
Yes, lots of similar stories. They're fantastic bikes 👍
Just bought me a 650DL 2008 cant wait to try it out , I have a 1984 Yamaha Venture Royale 1200 and as I am a new rider the bike is too fast and too heavy for me ( 65 ) so the 650DL was recommended by my local dealer as a lower geared machine , i have done my safety course on a Honda 650 which was fine so hopefully this wont be too different
They really are a great bike. Although a little tall for some shorter people, it's an easy bike to ride and not intimidating so I think you'll get on great :)
@@RichRides I'm 5'10 with a 32 inside leg. Do you think I'd have a problem with the DL? Currently own an cbf 500 and want something new. Tried the versys 650 but I was on the balls of my feet with that (think that was 33.6 seat height)
@@rolfenmonster The vstrom seat is slightly lower (but not much) than the Versys at 32.9. Another option may be to use a lowering kit. These aren't that expensive but can make a big difference to the height. Here's an example one for the vstrom www.lustracing.co.uk/suspension/suzuki-dl650-v-strom-lowering-kits.html
im thinking about riding around Australia, i think one of these which can be picked up used quite cheap would be perfect for the task
It's a great touring and all round bike. I've done a bit of touring and lots of miles around Scotland and it was both fun and comfortable. Go for it :)
I picked mine up 4 months ago for AU$3000 - 2006 with 50000km, 10 months rego, top box and staintune exhaust. Put about 3000 on it so far and love it 👍
@@yourmatejay absolute bargain mate
Plentiful bike here (across the ditch) in Australia. Have you done the trip yet Deep South? You see more on a 650 than the 1000cc
What helmet do you have? The sound is very clear! I have a Schubert C3 pro but i am not too happy sbout it
I use a full face Shoei Qwest which I do love as a helmet. It's a lot lighter and quieter than the previous flip helmet I had. And my audio setup is a Ghost microphone in the helmet connected to a Drift Ghost X.
just bought one for £250 a 2011 one, have to sort out the engine tho but after that should be a good stater bike i suppose
more like 66hk and under 60 at rear wheel, i have the same, but gen 1 06. i think they are fast to 120kmh wich is perfect.
Front brakes are Tokico, not Nissin. Unless you or a previous owner upgraded them.
Thanks and yes you're correct, it's the rear calipers that are Nissin.
Mine are nissin from factory its an 07
Best value bike in my opinion it will take you places and get you home. learn about the bike and it will serve you well mine is a red 05 dl650 and lives in the dirt.
I'm coming up to 3 years ownership now and it really has been great and I've not had any issues at all :)
Nice review, any observations about this bike in wet and muddy road conditions? I’m considering it as a second bike for tackling country lanes which are unavoidable where I live, and are often covered in a layer of mud (sometimes mixed with manure!) which is a particular problem when the road is also wet. Anyone experienced this, and with what tyres? Been looking at Battlax AX41 tyres but the knob Les might be more suited to deeper mud they can dig into than a thin layer on tarmac, and road tyres designed for the wet are presumably designed to drive out water and stick to the road, rather than a liquid mud & water mixture.
Hi Justin. I've used it in the wet with no issues and as I ride the country lanes near home and North Yorkshire with similar wet mud during winter I know what you mean. You obviously have to be extra careful but never had any big problems. I think knobblies would be worse on road (better off road) that more road focused tyres though. I was using Battlax Adventure A40's (I think the A41 is just a new version) which I do recommend for everything. Gripped well in all weather and even lasted well too.
Rich Rides Hi Rich, thanks for the feedback, very useful. We obviously have the same local road conditions!
Justin, their weight and top heavy distribution don't make them suitable for such conditions. I ride with Metzeler Tourances and battle through. My experience with Continental TKC 80's is vastly improved but they only get a third of the lifespan compared to the Tourances. Continental now make a TKC 70 Rocks (which might be a better compromise)
www.continental-tires.com/motorcycle/tires/motorcycle-tires/off-road-enduro/tkc-70-rocks
I'm looking at an 07 Abs model with around 30k. What kind of maintance should of been done besides the basic oil chsnges etc? PS. Great review and nice bike.
Basically oil changes every 5k miles, and valve clearance checks every 15k. And of course the usual regular chain and general maintenance of any bike. Mine has just done 26k and I replaced the chain and spockets a few months ago. Hope that helps
Thx. That does.
I have an 08 with 32K miles. Love the bike. My only gripe is a stator failure, which is a common issue with a 650dl of that age. Replaced it myself, with help from youtube.
Nice review, looking to buy a new bike and browsing the web I have seen a few 2008 v storm 650's in my price range. Have you ridden any distance with a pillion on one?. Cheers.
I never really used it to take a pillion but I recently sold the bike (due to long term travel) and the friend who bought it from me, got it for just this purpose.
My partner sold her 650 this yr. I have the 1000. Now and again the extra power is nice. But I'm sorry I didn't sell the 1000 and keep her 650. It's a great all-rounder and handles Better on the secondary rds. If in doubt, go for the 650. Ps, the 1000 is a lot bigger and heavier.
A friend of mine had a 650 and changed to the 1000 but said the same that he much preferred the 650.
Simpler bike, less to go wrong. Not shure l do agree on thee last negative point ther, but thats me.
This is a absolute great bike and l love my 04 dl650.
A great review sir..agree on all but he last negative point i guess.
Yes I love the bike but I always like to try and give a balanced review by pointing out any niggles or negatives. As I said in the review, I really struggled to :)
@@RichRides negativ for me is that the seat are to soft...so is the suspension, but then again its a 04 an may need a new spring. All in all I love the bike, just dont get tired taking it out for a ride.
I don't find the seat or suspension too soft tbh. Maybe like you say, it could be the spring. And yes, I still love mine :)
@@RichRides as l come direct from sportsbike l prefere a bit firm suspension. With a pillion on the centerstand do hit the ground in tight turns and bumpy backroads. I did put on a 25mm jackup set on it and that made it better.
Now it will live true the winter in snow and bad weather as a great commuter friend.
j'ai bien l'intention d'acheter un suzuki vstrom en 650 ai-je la bonne idée ?merci
I looked at them and thought a little gutless down low front brakes and suspension a bit wooden and flexible I think the 2015 model fixes the front end. I come from the perspective of a Suzi 1200 Bandit so I am probably a little harsh on a small engine and something built for versatility.
Coming from a 1200 Bandit then yes I guess it will feel quite a bit less powerful. I found the brakes and suspension to be pretty good though. It's obviously not a sports bike so not up to that standard though. As an allrounder, it really is a great bike though.
thanks
No worries!
What brand of the crash bars are they? I bought a used bike with these crash bars but can't figure out the brand so I can buy a matching skid plate.
Also what radiator guard are you running?
Thanks
I don't have the bike anymore but I think they were the Suzuki bars. I'm not sure about the radiator guard either as this was also fitted already when I bought the bar. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful!
on my 2011 I found the anti lock rear brake to be dangerous on loose down hills so I un hooked sensor at the wheel, all better. I am just getting into gravel roads and ect. What do you run for tire pressure
I've not had the Vstrom for a few years now so can't remember, sorry!
Hi Richard,
What's the reference of your support for the phone ? Thanks !
Hi Nicolas. I've tried a few different ones (my previous one actually broke while riding but thankfully the cable stopped the phone falling off!) and this is the one I've been most impressed with so far as it's all aluminium rather than any plastic parts. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Bike-Bicycle-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Rotating-Aluminum-Mount-Holder-For-Phones/283036636020
I was confused about which bike to buy.
1st option Vstrom 2007 (11000 km) + gsxr 750 k4 (18000 km)..4000+3000 7000 euro
2st option ktm 1050 adv 2015 (31000 km) 6800 euro
3st option tracer 900 2018 (23000 km) 6900 euro
4st option kawasaki z1000 2008 (21000 km)+ honda vfr 800 vtec 2004 (50000 km) 4800+1900 6700 euro..
I chose the 1st option.I hope that i took the best disicion:) i will have the bikes this week
There are some great bikes in your options list so I think any would have been good :)
With the option you've gone for, you'll have the great all round ability of the Vstrom and the GSXR for some sporty fun. And the Vstrom is hardly even run in at that mileage!
Hey Rich - can you share with us which brand/model of touring screen you have?
Hi Ray, yes no problem. It's the Givi touring screen 👍
@@RichRides Wow, that was fast - thank loads! (No riding here in Colorado right now - 24 inches of snow in the last 10 days.)
@@GeezerWheels no worries. And that definitely doesn't sound like good riding weather 😂
I am 6’4” and looking into buying a 2004-2008 model since they are relatively affordable. Any thoughts on that?
I'm 6ft and find there to be plenty of room on the bike. I can't see your height being an issue really so I'd go and try one.
Richard Eaton Thanks!
Robin did you get one? I’m 6-3 and curious about leg room?
I am 6‘2“ 220 pounds, to get comfort I dropped the pegs with a lowering kit which made a big difference and I also sit on an air hawk seat which gives about another 1.25 inches seat height, and I can still flat foot. I bought the bike new in 2009 and I have 34,000 trouble free miles. 55 miles per gallon, always 300 miles per tank or more, 10,000 miles out the front and rear tires, and still have the original front and rear brake pads and the original sprocket and chain
Maybe one of the best all rounder out there. A couple of things I disagree with. The performance is only adequate especially two up but the v twin engine is designed for midrange not power and it's only a 650 .. The budget suspension punches way above it's weight. And the handling and road holding and stability on A and B roads roads is excellent . The brakes are OK but I've known better.
Yes they're a great allrounder that is often overlooked. Ref power then I guess it depends what you're used to and with another adult pillion and loaded up panniers the Vstrom 1000/1050 would be much better. I never had an issue with the brakes myself but of course, more modern large radial Brembos will be much better.
Esta bonita necesito una 208
Hey guys. I'm looking at a 2008 with only 9,000 miles for $3000.. even though it's got low miles I'm a bit worried about it sitting for long stretches of time and I wondered what kinda maintenance issues I need to look for...
It has been ridden this year about 4000 miles but it's been in storage for about 4 months..
Tell me your thoughts on what to look for when I go pick it up
Thanks
Hi, wow, that really is low mileage for the year! The main issues with bikes sat for long periods (but way more than a few months) is rubber things perishing (fork seals, shock mounts etc) and metal things (like chains) rusting. Other things to check are inside the fuel tank for rust (I'd drain the tank and refill with new petrol as it doesn't last well) and the age/condition of the tyres too.
@@RichRides thanks man... He sent close up pictures of the chain and sprockets and tires etc... They all look pretty good but I'm sure I will have to at least swap tires
@@RichRides you think the price is reasonable? $2700?
@@BracaPhoto I'm not sure of US prices but converting that to GBP it sounds a good price if in the UK :)
Could you tell us the brand of your pannia bars?
These were the standard Honda pannier racks as it had the full Honda luggage pack.
how is the wind on the legs ? specially in bit colder weathers ?
It's not a fully faired bike but the shape of the bike does protect you well from the wind and weather. I ride mine in winter too with no issues. I also fit my larger touring screen in winter as that then provides even more protection.
Yes i find if i have my work boots (short)it can be a bit breezy up the trouser department.. but then again its fine when its hot out.
Could you please tell me how tall you are and do your feet get flat on the surface? The bike really looks great after 10 years. Your video is quite a recommendation for Suzuki. Thank you.
Hi, I'm 6ft tall and yes my feet are easily flat on the floor. And yes, I'd recommend a Vstrom :)
I have the same bike and I’m 5’9, my heels don’t touch the ground but it’s not that important I can still put my feet down fine. Don’t let the size scare you
Do you find the fuelling snatchy at low speed ? 👍
No, not at all. If you're experiencing that then I'd suspect something isn't quite right. It could be fueling or something simpler like the throttle cable.
I've only found the fuelling snatchy on DL's with accessory exhausts. Stock fuelling is impeccable.
Power commander will solve that did not completely remove the injection hic- up at 3500 RPM so I don't run at that Suzuki said we put a 6 speed in it for a reason.
My friends is 5ft6 and he rides the vstrom 650 2018 version, so your comment was wrong, you can get lowered seats
what about the vstrom 1000, do you think it would be a better bike ?
I've not ridden one, but apparently not really worth the extra and requires more engine maintenance. But as I say, I've not actually ridden one myself.
@@RichRides I have had a 2012 DL650 for four years. I have put every farkle you can think of and love it. I bought a 2014 DL1000 6 months ago thinking it would be better than my 650 and then sold it within 2 months. It was not as smooth as the 650 . Taller so had issues moving it around the garage.Yes slightly quicker than my 650 but a great deal. The Dl1000 was almost a wee bit agricultural compared to the 650. I also bought a Versys 1000 a year ago and found that too tall for me and top heavy when slow riding so I sold that too. Living in New Zealand sometimes you have to buy without trying it!Luckily I buy these bikes at a good price and have got my money back on them. I have ridden over 20 bikes in the last 4 years , including New Honda Africas 1000, triumph 800 both road and off road versions,triumph 1050 sport, harleys, Burgmans both 650 and 400, versys 650 and STILL go back to my DL650 as the best all rounder. I will never sell it ! I am going to buy another one, probably older and cheaper so when my son visits we can go out on rides...They are that good. In NZ 650's sell 4 to 1against DL1000!
@@mulegizmo Thanks for all the info. The 650 is more popular in the UK than the 1000 too. The 1000 also requires more maintenance so for me I prefer the 650.
I may have missed it but how many miles do you have on it?
Hi Roman, the bike has done just over 25k now, not that you'd know it :)
Thanks!!
@@RichRides So it's basically brand new ! ;)
Hola buenos días
Necesito una vtron 650 2005
Whats the fuel milage on your bike?
Hi Kurt, I usually get between 55-60mpg so it's pretty good.
objective view
Thanks!
Still about 20 lbs lighter than tiger
if you enjoy a bike why change it.
People have unfairly labelled DL650 owners as "tight-wads", but why pay more for a motorcycle that you like less?
@@MrBenHaynes i like too say carefull with how i spend my money.this bike will see me out.my transalp 600 iv had for 20 years.still starts on the button.this suzuki will be the same.
@@peterpyke1213 Awesome Peter! My advice is to find a low milage '08-'11 model (1st gen, twin plug) with ABS. They are (subjectively) the most aesthetically pleasing, have adjustable front forks, painted front mudguard and heaps of accessories available. The final 2011 model came in a very fetching shade of orange. I will be putting a low km replacement DL or SV 650 motor in my '09 model from a salvage bike should it ever require.
@@MrBenHaynes MINE IS A2016 WITH BEACK.HAD ALOT OF TROUBLE WITH WIND NOISE BEING THROWN UP AT ME.I WEAR AN OPEN FACE.LOOK A WHILE BUT CURED IT WITH ABS PLASTIC MODS TO FAIRING AND FRONT MUDGUARD AND FILL IN FAIRING AIR VENTS.ITS NOW PERFECT FOR ME.I THINK THE EARLIER MODELS DID NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM.IT WAS A REAL PROBLEM FOR ME.I LOVE MY V NOW
Absolutely NOT a "dual sport". I bought this identical bike....it is very nice on the street but in the dirt it is plain scary! Once tired if you go down it can be almost impossible to pick it back up by yourself depending on your physical condition ....you might argue the point but if the bike goes down on a hill? You better hope you have help! It's WAY WAY WAY more a touring bike and barely dirt worthy and then only on hard packed dry ....sand is MURDER.
Yes I wouldn't fancy riding in sand on anything other than a full on dirt bike myself! For me the definition of an adventure bike is something that can do some more serious off road and a dual sport is more road focused but can handle some light off road. I think the labels and lines between all these things are very blurred these days :)
@@RichRides It is just abuse of the term to start calling large street biased motorcycles "dual sport" ....here is a litmus test for anyone familiar with Motocross ....if you can not comfortably safely reasonably ride a motorcycle around a full on typical motocross track ? then you are not on a real "dual sport" motorcycle ....And yes a really good rider might be able to get even a cruiser or sport bike around certain milder MX tracks but they would of course know that we're performing a stunt as opposed to riding something that was naturally easy to circulate the track on....not saying that even a true DS bike would be particularly good at it (although SOME dual sports you could actually even race and beat a bunch of riders on if you are good) .... it would be the difference between people seeing it either saying "well THAT is just assinine" as opposed to simply..."okay it goes around the track fine but WHY ? What the this guy does not have a truck and money for a real race bike?"
I feel that the ONLY reason the "lines are blurred" is because people keep abusing the terms. Dual Sport and Adventure are distinct categories where the only time it gets blurred is the legitimate use of a dual sport as their adventure bike .But no reasonable person is ever going to deliberately choose a street biased bike like a Vstrom to do rough single track etc. A really good Rider might do it as a challenge to show off his skill or whatever but is not going to straight faced claim it was any kind of good choice.
I personally own an 08 DL650 and a Honda XR650L .....I COULD ride the XR anywhere I can the DL but NOT vice versa! The DL is a PIG of a motorcycle offroad! If it is not a bonafide maintained dirt ROAD that most cars could traverse then it is going to an Iffy scary proposition to ride the Suzuki on. Having said all this, I will take my Vstrom over the XR every single time if it is mostly highway with just some reasonable dirt roads included ....like 80/20 and a long ride? The Vstrom every time because it is so much more pleasant to ride on the highway! So comfortable for many hours in the saddle....just a joy! The XR on the highway is a chore after a short time, heat pours off the air-cooled motor and there is a lot of tire and chain noise and quick stops are harrowing compared to the Suzuki...I only take it when I NEED IT ...I need it whenever there is mostly dirt road or especially when it will be rough at all.
But hey for you guys that want to insist on abusing the term "dual sport" by including 500llb heavily street biased motorcycles? Well its a free atmosphere to say practically anything ...but it just comes across as pretty ignorant if you ask me ....it annoys me enough to respond. And hey find me ANY motorcycle publication that is calling the Vstrom "dual sport" Or calling ANY large heavy multi cylinder motorcycle "dual sport" for that matter
@@dougiequick1 Thanks for all the info and as you say, lots of confusion around the terms and classes around styles of motorcycles which seems to be constantly growing and even more bikes these days that don't fit into any or cross many! I've probably incorrectly picked up the term dual sport myself from other people using it to describe more road focused adventure bikes as that's how I've heard it used. We're all constantly learning :)
I’ve rode mine in dirt rocks and sand. It can be done . I’ll take mine anywhere a bmw gs will go..
I agree it is not that good off road, but it depends on the definition of off road - and, any off road work is best done if you are experienced in that sort of riding. With the right tires, I would take my '09 Wee on packed gravel logging roads and dirt roads if it is not muddy. Even the Beemer GS bikes are dicey off road if the surface is slick with mud or full of boulders and ruts. Most of the ADV bikes that are built for packed touring are too heavy to be good for technical stuff. So, in that, the V-strom is in good company.
As for picking up a DL650, I use the BMW method and don't have any problems. Engage the front brake by slipping a glove over it or something, turn the bars so the tire is pointing to the sky, step in close, bend at the knees, grab the lower bar END with both hands and lift in a smooth motion. Yeah, it's a grunt if the bike is on a down slope, but it's way easier than any other way. My 63 year old bad back can testify under penalty of pain that this works best.
All said, I can't find a single disqualifier in the V-Strom. Pretty much bomb proof and easy to own. The only thig I changed was the 15 tooth sprocket in front to a 16 tooth. Makes a lot of difference on the hi-way and is not a deficit from a dead stop because the motor has ample torque. Like having a 7th gear.
For a 650 "Dual Sport" ? The Suzuki DR 650 or Honda XR650L ...border line the KLR650...KTM 690...but NOT the DL650! NOT the Vstrom ...sorry it just does get that status. DL is a wonderful fun motorcycle just keep it out of anything at all loose and rough or else tremble!
I agree. Great bike, but not for off road.
Also agree can easily handle a dirt road and even a bit of rutting but nothing more adventurous than that.
This dude spends more time checking the mirrors than looking forward, kinda annoying from the camera view
I have a 06 1000. Lot bigger and heavier then the 650 ( which my partner had ). Lot more torque and faster, but saying that I find the 650 a lot lighter and flick able, plenty of power, easier through the corners and comfortable. The 1000 more roomy for 2 up, but the 650 is plenty of bike as an all rounder.
A friend changed from the 650 to the 1000 and actually preferred the 650 (they only ride solo) because of the weight and handling.