Can this Little Sailboat Cross Oceans? - Skipper 20 Sailboat Restoration (Ep49)

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  • čas přidán 21. 09. 2023
  • This episode I purchase a Skipper 20 Sailboat and contemplate a sailboat pilothouse conversion, while dreaming of sailing the oceans.
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Komentáře • 387

  • @motorcityboatwerks
    @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +6

    Welcome to MotorCity Boat Werks! Please be sure to subscribe. Check out my videos on the other projects I’m working on in the Boat Werks. And please, help me spread the word about the Best Amateur Boat Restoration and Boat Building Channel you’ve probably never heard of 😁👍

  • @markgallagher1376
    @markgallagher1376 Před 8 měsíci +6

    That boat’s in great shape. Clean it up, rig it up, and go sailing.

  • @randall39
    @randall39 Před 8 měsíci +6

    You have the cleanest boat shop I have ever seen. Makes mine look so dirty. Love the skipper 20, I have a 1983 Montego 20 and I love it. It’s a 2300 lb boat and sails Lake Michigan beautifully. I’m currently building a 20 ft Paul Gartside designed cutter. I sail out of Holland and love the Great Lakes. Sailing is therapeutic, not a hurry and get there activity. If you have never sailed and like to go boating, I strongly suggest finding someone to sail with. I’m always happy to take people out. ❤

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Welcome Aboard Randall! I hope you subscribe 😁 what a great little boat! Have you ever considered sailing your boat across Lake Michigan for some big water fun? I was thinking this might be a great challenge for the Skipper 20 once restored. And I’ve often thought someday there should be a Small Sailboat Adventure Challenge in the Great Lakes. Just like Water Tribe in a Florida.

  • @gregpackard2659
    @gregpackard2659 Před 8 měsíci +26

    Please keep the boat a sail boat,that is if you are a sailor. Many people are not. And so sailing is slowly becoming a thing of the past. It is not how fast you are, or how you need to get to your destination asap. It's the love of learning new things and adventure. You also learn patience. Whatever you do give olive oil love. All the best greg.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Is that a vote for original or motorsailer?
      You can’t cast two votes Greg!😁

    • @johnmartin2079
      @johnmartin2079 Před 8 měsíci +1

      American people want electric vehicles and fuel hogging cigarette boats. Not green sailboats

    • @oinc7320
      @oinc7320 Před 8 měsíci +3

      The wife doesn't appreciate that under sail is a journey experience, much like train travel, hiking, exclusions are high-speed trains.
      You don't go well, go from A to B, in a set time frame.
      It's a travel that will unfold at the universe's pleasure, not yours.
      And the pleasure lies there, even if, hours overdue.
      Sailing is true freedom.

    • @thomaschristener2902
      @thomaschristener2902 Před 8 měsíci

      Out of my ❤. Tom from switzerland 👋🏻

    • @Slithey7433
      @Slithey7433 Před 7 měsíci

      Adding too much additional superstructure could affect the stability of the boat. I wouldn’t do it.

  • @davidbauerdorf1324
    @davidbauerdorf1324 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Love it! Just started a 73 Newport Holiday 19. Replaced ALL the wood, transom, stringers ect. Full resto! Trying to keep the momentum going. Thanks for the wisdom 🤘

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Welcome David! Hang in there and keeping moving forward. Can’t wait to see what you’ve accomplished 😁👍

  • @patrickcwillis
    @patrickcwillis Před 8 měsíci +2

    With the beautiful lines on this boat, the potential is off the charts. I have a 26’ ex Navy Whaleboat I am restoring. The lines of a boat are the most important aspect of a good boat.
    You do nice work. Thanks for sharing your skills!!

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Thank you for the great compliment and I agree. There is something about the lines that make me smile😁

  • @wspurlin
    @wspurlin Před 8 měsíci +1

    I looked at this boat several times. I am so glad it is in your hands. I am sure it will turn out great.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks Wade! I will give it my best shot. I think you’re going to be quite pleased 😀

  • @JohansGrandBanksSaabEtc
    @JohansGrandBanksSaabEtc Před 8 měsíci +1

    Joe, you are my boat restoration momentum guru and I love that you bought another boat to restore. Whatever keeps you motivated right. Gonna be great to follow this.
    Really like the planked hull retro look, my grand banks has that as well. Keep it up!

  • @danilocardoso3873
    @danilocardoso3873 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm so glad to have found this channel today. Keep up the good work! 👏

  • @bobjones8864
    @bobjones8864 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Love that little sailboat just the way it is. It would look nice sailing along the west coast of Florida where it was born.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Exactly. 😎Be sure to subscribe Bob and tell a friend. Thank you

  • @davidgoodman8730
    @davidgoodman8730 Před 4 měsíci +1

    What a little gem. Love your shop. I own a Alberg design south coast 21. Thanks for sharing!.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 4 měsíci

      What a great boat! Be sure to subscribe and check out the Werkers. Werks get a free copy of my classic sailboat restoration book 😁👍 patreon.com/MotorCityBoatWerks

  • @johnryan2193
    @johnryan2193 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Brilliant little channel, you are so lucky to have that great shop to work in . I love the idea of a small pilot house. Good luck with the channel .

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you John. Be sure to like and subscribe. Wait till you see what’s next 😁👍

  • @SailingWaveRover
    @SailingWaveRover Před 5 měsíci +2

    Hi Joe. Great video, my friend. I love the boat and instantly though that she would be a great boat to take across the Atlantic.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Alan thank you so much. 😊 I have to agree. I think a competent skipper with some modification could achieve something like exceptional. I hope your travels continue safe. I’m watching from afar. Go brother ! Go far ! You motivate me 👍😁👍

  • @vincesmith5681
    @vincesmith5681 Před 8 měsíci +2

    i like the pocket trawler and the pilot house .pretty cool ideas.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thank you Vince. Be sure to subscribe to see what comes next. You’re gonna love it 😁

  • @fosterkennel649
    @fosterkennel649 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video wonderful little vessel. I own an albin 25 Deluxe Built-in Sweden in late 70s. Blessings to you and yours coming at you from Southern Oregon

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Welcome aboard and Thank you sir! I am currently looking for an Albin 25 owner who will accept my Albin 25 Challenge for an upcoming episode featuring the amazing Albin 25. I promise this will be a great piece we can both be proud of. Could you be the one? Please email me for details 😃

  • @seacap10vancouver54
    @seacap10vancouver54 Před 8 měsíci

    Two great projects
    Love the lines on both

  • @ronbaker1280
    @ronbaker1280 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video! Just found your channel. You got me hooked. Thank you, Ron

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Welcome Aboard Ron! I’m so glad you found the Boat Werks 😁👍

  • @joshkaiser8583
    @joshkaiser8583 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Definitely a pilot house 😊

  • @ralfsxm851
    @ralfsxm851 Před 7 měsíci +1

    About 3 years ago I bought lil aluminium sail boat OVNI 25 constructed by chantier navale Alubat FR in 1978. The previous owner crossed the Atlantic from the Meditaranian to the West Indies SXM with this tiny lil thing. Chapeau ! Amazing

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 7 měsíci

      I love it! I absolutely love the French OVNi sailboats. Were I to take to the seas tomorrow it would be in a French aluminum centerboard 👍😁

    • @ralfsxm851
      @ralfsxm851 Před 7 měsíci

      @@motorcityboatwerks 💗

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 5 měsíci

      👍😎

  • @pforbom1844
    @pforbom1844 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Pocket trawler would be cool ! Great videos thanks 🇨🇦

  • @darrylbaron5004
    @darrylbaron5004 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Wow, what a fantastic little sail boat. Pilot house would be fantastic. New subscriber here. Would love to see here sail. Can’t imagine she would point too high but a lot of fun and more sea worthy than her size would indicate I’m sure.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks Darryl! Be sure to subscribe to see what happens next 😁

  • @stewkingjr
    @stewkingjr Před měsícem +1

    Gotta admit, that think is cute as hell!!

  • @dannettepeters1507
    @dannettepeters1507 Před 8 měsíci

    Love her name, hope you keep it!! Classic!

  • @mikekennedy5470
    @mikekennedy5470 Před 8 měsíci

    This is a great find . My kind of channel
    😎

  • @roysharples2921
    @roysharples2921 Před 8 měsíci

    what an ace boat ,it will look great with red sails awesome

  • @melrichardson2392
    @melrichardson2392 Před 8 měsíci

    This is a beautiful boat love it ,with the design ,I really sea no reason why it can't be a world tripper love it.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you ! It’s going to be an interesting project. Welcome to the Boat Werks 😎

  • @garrymartin6474
    @garrymartin6474 Před 8 měsíci +2

    What a beauty ! She would be just the thing for coastal cruising here in the UK. I would think about a spray hood , sort of keeps he original whilst adding weather protection.

  • @davefletch3063
    @davefletch3063 Před 6 měsíci

    I love the shape of the hull

  • @bubmedi7444
    @bubmedi7444 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good work & good luck ,fan from Libya

  • @psalm2forliberty577
    @psalm2forliberty577 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Maybe so !
    Years back I read the first person account of a young sailor from the west coast who sailed his 27' MacGregor Sailboat to Hawall from his home in Seattle, alone.
    It was called "The Log of the Mahina".
    Great read & his journey was fraught with peril !
    So much so, reading it made me simultaneously want to become & avoid such an endeavor !

  • @907T
    @907T Před 8 měsíci +3

    Hello Joe. She's a salty-looking boat. I like the rub rail. Stay well from Joe in AZ

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thanks Joe ! Should be a fun side project reject. Stay tuned 😎

  • @michaeledmonds3027
    @michaeledmonds3027 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Another vote for headroom; hope you add a pilot house.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you for your vote. I think you will like what I come up with. 😁

  • @davidbrentnall9330
    @davidbrentnall9330 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Just a simple pilot house would suit this boat and keep it ideal for the solo sailor coastal cruising and more. looking forward to see the project evolve, from the UK.

  • @EZurg
    @EZurg Před 8 měsíci +2

    Micro pocket cruiser w full pilot house conversion!!

  • @scruffylookingnerfherder3418
    @scruffylookingnerfherder3418 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Great little boat. My advice is to keep it as a sailboat no matter what you decide. Adding the pilothouse top or hard dodger would be sweet, especially if you connected a bimini with side curtains for a full cockpit coverage. I can think of many great little adventure with a boat like that in New England where we sail our boat.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Sounds great! Thank you for your vote

    • @kl-a1dcaypso945
      @kl-a1dcaypso945 Před 8 měsíci

      @@motorcityboatwerksI vote on keeping her as a sailboat also. Maybe a hard dodger depending upon where and how you plan to sail her. Also think about a breakdown tent type enclosure for the cockpit for staying overnight at anchor or close to shore on lakes or lake island camp spots. She has an abundance of character, it would be a shame to lose it. Especially if adding height and weight that would make her tender on the water.
      *Second idea as an addendum to my vote: Go big! Start a new business venture! Make a complete mold of her, both top and bottom shells. Then bring her model back to the market as a trailer sailor/ pocket cruiser. Sell completely finished boats. In addition to offering just the bare hulls with the topsides, (decks, cockpit, and cabin top.) Basically all molded In features that would allow the purchasers to then finish themselves to a standard and budget they can afford.
      Next step, achieve success. Now talk to James Baldwin (Atom Voyager), about bringing a new design to the market. With a small sailboat similar and comparable to the ones he refits. Incorporating all of his design ideas, innovations, and refit improvements. Which results in a tremendously capable blue water, adventure sailboat. That is comfortable,and easy to sail single-handed. Then disrupt the market by bringing an attainable, affordable, and capable sailboat. One that does not price out the majority of the market. Those ooking to find an affordable and safe new boat to go cruising. However far or close that may be. So that’s my vote. Do all of the above or something like that. Lol 😂

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      That’s an ambitious plan! And one that might take more than one guy working in the Boat Werks! I will have to think about that 😅

  • @antoniogutierrezespejo6774
    @antoniogutierrezespejo6774 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I congratulate you. That is a fantástic boat. Much its looks as the Lyle Hess Balboa. Very nice.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you Antonio 😁Welcome Aboard. I always liked Lyle Hess designs also

  • @dougutubeify
    @dougutubeify Před 8 měsíci

    I like this boat! I had a twin keel Holt Allen 16' sloop years back.

  • @chaswarren7239
    @chaswarren7239 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Beautiful boat, clean it up & leave it alone. No pilot house !

  • @angel-tk2ug
    @angel-tk2ug Před 8 měsíci +3

    Great video! I was so shocked when I saw you only had 1.2k subs. You deserve way more 😊

  • @gjmsouthafrica
    @gjmsouthafrica Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have one good flying fifteen (20 foot sail boats)and then a second one that is essentially just the hull. and been playing with the use of converting the old one to some sort of a lay down camper cabin with a dodger of some sort. Enjoyed this little squiz about this boat 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 7 měsíci

      Excellent, stay tuned to see what comes next. I think you will enjoy it and it may give you some ideas 😎

  • @keving4081
    @keving4081 Před měsícem +1

    I get where you are at. I've worked on boats for 58 years. Sometimes you see one (don't need it) and you just buy it. "There is nothing better than messing around with boats. I've got a 1989 22'Hurricane deckboat which took 3 yrs. to find a 90 Merc.now it looks like new....total cost $2100.
    Also a 17"Slipper (very traditional design) $2k.

  • @3falexchina953
    @3falexchina953 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hello! Thanks for the video, i find your channel is great. Watching you from Kazakhstan. I think is pilot house is not necessary. This boat have brave by hes simplicity and minimalism. Just keep them with new rig and it will well sail on water.

  • @danielhartwig6333
    @danielhartwig6333 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Pilot house 😊 leave the sails 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @cousinjack2841
    @cousinjack2841 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Just found your channel and loved the video. What a crackin' little boat! I get the pilot house idea, but I think it would be a shame to convert her to a motor boat, but that's just me. Looking forward to following your efforts. Greetings from an old sailing enthusiast in South Africa. Subscribed.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Welcome Aboard Cousin Jack!
      It does seem a shame to remove the sailing ability 😎

  • @sunovaomega
    @sunovaomega Před 2 měsíci +1

    Living my dream.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 2 měsíci

      😁👍 Be sure to like and subscribe! You’re going to love what comes next 😎

  • @CheekyMonkey1776
    @CheekyMonkey1776 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Perfect for the ICW

  • @terryboehler5752
    @terryboehler5752 Před 8 měsíci

    What a fabulous little boat. I would love that project. I did a Victory 18 that had the hull pierced on both sides of the bow. It was pulled out of the water on a makeshift trailer. It was filled with water when recovered. The trailer supports up front pierced the hull as it settled on the trailer.
    Sailed it several times after i repaired it. The problem was launching and retrieving. It required a twenty foot chain between the trailer hitch and the trailer in order to get it far enough down the ramp so it could float.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you Terry. Victory 18 is fine boat. I have studied them may times and find them proper 😁

  • @vincentdsnt
    @vincentdsnt Před 7 měsíci

    Nice pilothouse it.

  • @GallagherGeotecminning
    @GallagherGeotecminning Před 8 měsíci

    BRILLIANT, love them, great stuff, ⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵

  • @abdulkkhan5095
    @abdulkkhan5095 Před 8 měsíci

    Brilliant

  • @lukehorning3404
    @lukehorning3404 Před 8 měsíci

    Cool boat and I love the new and you need to keep up with your health if you want to able to work on or get on any boat man Thanks for the video it was really interesting

  • @cherjohnson5807
    @cherjohnson5807 Před 8 měsíci

    Cute boat👍🏽

  • @craigbuchanan5294
    @craigbuchanan5294 Před 8 měsíci

    Absolutely I’ve crossed the Atlantic a few times on sail boats… admittedly not one this small but it will do the job !

  • @fitness4mind
    @fitness4mind Před 8 měsíci +1

    That "Ask me how I know it" made my day :D. A very pretty salty sailboat, would be very nice with the pilothouse, but I think the trawler thing will be a loss. I'll follow your journey in restoring her, even if there's not much to restore. New subscriber here, greetings from Romania :).

  • @BrianJoyce-dk2sg
    @BrianJoyce-dk2sg Před 8 měsíci +1

    Please leave it a sailboat. I'd love to get something like that when I retire next year.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Brian your vote is counted. Stick with me, I think you're going to really like what I have to show you. Be sure to subscribe

  • @gentrynewsom2080
    @gentrynewsom2080 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Get it ready.. I'll sail it to Hawaii for fun...& Maybe on to Indonesia if everything looks good .

  • @AngryPainting
    @AngryPainting Před 8 měsíci

    Perky cute boat.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      We like to say “salty”. Cute is how you describe a kitten. And we have not kittens in MotorCity Boat Werks

  • @huntsail3727
    @huntsail3727 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Enjoyed this, looking forward to seeing more. Subscribed.
    I am also a sailboat guy. I have a VN 23 that is showing its age. Thinking about 1) getting a smalller, eaiser to handle dinghy like a Daysailor, or 2) restoring the VN 23. Your channel looks like exactly what I have been looking for, thanks.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Welcome aboard! Keep that VN 23 a little bit longer and see if I don’t inspire you. 😄If you decide to let it go now worries.

  • @tullyontherocks
    @tullyontherocks Před 8 měsíci

    Son of a gun, I was seriously looking that boat. I work in TC, great snag!

  • @adambamf9365
    @adambamf9365 Před 8 měsíci

    Out The Box all the way

  • @BuildFixGo
    @BuildFixGo Před 8 měsíci +5

    I'd vote for a pilot house and keep it sail-able. Thats the kind of boat a person could sail solo and bop around from port to port for very little money. Would love to take it down to the keys.

  • @atomisum6445
    @atomisum6445 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I saw a sweet skipper 20 on Craigslist. I loved it! but I'm land locked

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +2

      I hear you. Timing is everything. But fun to trailer to the water 😁

  • @jamiebray8532
    @jamiebray8532 Před 8 měsíci

    I love the boats name "Olive Oyle".

  • @stevencooper1845
    @stevencooper1845 Před 8 měsíci

    When you mentioned Clearwater and it seems to have a similar keel ....skeel as the 16 ft. Compac , now I don't know if the 19 had opening ports . I use to have the 16 , what an easy , care free boat . You probably also know they did do a clever pilot house on the Compac 23 . I don't know how many are out there . I had a Luger kit boat that had come down from Lake Michigan , my uncle liked it so well he bought the 26 kit . He did a great job on it and to date it was my last boat . He use to haul it to Tavenier Key from Ohio but after he died I bought it from my aunt . I can be lengthy 😉

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Indeed, thanks for the comment Steven. I just live small proper sailboats ⛵️ just like you 👍

  • @mikebecker328
    @mikebecker328 Před 8 měsíci

    Micro trawler for sure. Great description of what to look for. I am debating building from scratch a pocket trawler or buy and rehab an existing boat.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Mike I always suggest rebar an existing boat and choose fiberglass. For the DIYer it’s always easier and cheaper. And the likelihood of being able to sell or sell off your project should circumstances change-well it just make sense. Welcome aboard and Good Luck! Stay tuned 😎

    • @fredbalster3100
      @fredbalster3100 Před 8 měsíci

      Fiberglass older boats seem pretty cheap and sound. 😊

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 5 měsíci

      😎

  • @donotwantahandle1111
    @donotwantahandle1111 Před 8 měsíci +1

    An interesting project! Not sure what I would do to it. Take it for a sail in rough conditions and some things may become apparent.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Right! This is my next step. Let’s see how it sails and what can be done 👍

  • @nagjrcjasonbower
    @nagjrcjasonbower Před 8 měsíci +2

    Looking good. New sub!

  • @robertbodell7221
    @robertbodell7221 Před 8 měsíci +1

    back in the 60's I circumnavigated the Atlantin in a 24 foot bayliner biccaneer.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Nice 👍 great adventure

    • @robertbodell7221
      @robertbodell7221 Před 8 měsíci

      @@motorcityboatwerks yeah the first time was dideling around on the grand banks and kept going east till I hit the point of no return. My only choice was to go around. i had heard it was faster going the long way so I did. A couple of years I was nthinking it can't possibly take longer going through the doldrums, so I took the second trip. Yep it took three mponths longer.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 5 měsíci

      🤩

  • @hughmanatee7433
    @hughmanatee7433 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The low headroom is reminiscent of the Nordic folkboat.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Right. I think it's a function of the proportional dimensions. There is only so much room in a shoal draft 20ft sailboat

  • @wallykloubek4079
    @wallykloubek4079 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I used to have a English built 17 ft LEISURE double bilge keel sloop....it was massively fibreglass built with good sitting headroom. In the earlier boats manufactured of fibreglass, they were overbuilt because it was a new product and they were built strong. I was told that my model crossed the Atlantic single-handedly by a German sailor.
    Due to the lack of head room in your boat, I could see building it up with a pilot house. I wouldn’t like to live in the cabin overnight, crouched down.....but that’s only me...otherwise, she has beautiful lines....cheers🍷🇨🇦

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Exactly, I think you articulated a reason for the pilothouse perfectly. This is perhaps the best argument why a pilothouse should be added. 👍

  • @dockmasterted
    @dockmasterted Před 8 měsíci +1

    I like it better than my 27' Ericson down here in St. Petersburg, Florida!

    • @dockmasterted
      @dockmasterted Před 8 měsíci +1

      The only change I would do would be to rig it as a gaff rigged main sail like I have on the Ericson.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      I have thought about that 🤔 but for the effort and simplicity the little rig as-is is probably the way to go. Keep working with the Ericson 27. Great boat 😃

  • @MrChrisHobday
    @MrChrisHobday Před 8 měsíci

    I’m just in the process of a Fisher 25 . All advice welcome, ps disabled sailor 😎

  • @wolframschweier3307
    @wolframschweier3307 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Based on my experience restoring vintage European motorcycles, this is flipper for sure. Looks like it was respected and cared for. Good owner intensions but not used much. Outboard is evidence of that. Not abused or chopped up. Practical improvements using limited skills. Bring it back to life but don't over do it just because you know you can.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Another vote for the quick flip. However a pilothouse if done properly transforms this trailer sailer to a little big ship and increases the resale value by 3X

    • @wolframschweier3307
      @wolframschweier3307 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Its a happy looking cute boat with a name to match. I think the pilot house takes away from that. But I'm not a sailor. @@motorcityboatwerks

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +2

      😳Cute is how we describe kittens or children with lollipops. The correct term is “salty”😁😂😂

  • @georgeburns7251
    @georgeburns7251 Před 7 měsíci

    Nice looking little boat. I think there is a CZcams of a couple with a baby who has purchased one and has it set up. Sorry I don’t remember their channel name. Aside from that, I like your replies to the comments. I might just subscribe. This was a nice vid too.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 7 měsíci

      👍Be sure to check out my other videos and understand what MotorCity Boat Werks is all about. 👌😎

  • @robertcooke1774
    @robertcooke1774 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Yes it can.i crossed the atlantic 4 times in a 22 ft falmouth oyster dredger

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Fantastic 👍I always a love to hear about small boat crossings.

  • @HoosierPete69.
    @HoosierPete69. Před 8 měsíci

    I watched that boat for a while on Craigslist, looks like I missed out on a Gem. I don't think you can lose on it any way you decide to go with it. Looking forward to seeing what you do with her.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      I watched this boat almost a year sold to one owner than another. Perhaps it will be for sale again 😉

  • @lectro88
    @lectro88 Před 8 měsíci

    Love seeing old boats brought back to life...
    My "Exwife" found a better "Deal" or another "D" word.
    So I Located a 1969 Mako 19' (same year I hatched...)We are same age.
    I pulled the cap and removed all the saturated floatation foam, Monster re-built the rotten Transom, 2-1/2" thick, and beefing up the stringers.
    A few years into the project,. I'm getting back to working on it.
    I shattered both bones in ankle so a set back for more than a year.
    My plans are too much to even start to describe but it's a Full Resto.
    But twin outboards is the 1st. on the agenda.
    I have twin 60 gallon fuel tanks that I am fitting under the floor and adding a few extra stringers to corral the tanks.
    I have float tested it with the mock up of the weights listed, but it will be a 1-2 people boat rather than 4-6 as original.
    Also, in the recent year I obtained a saw mill, So I'm kicking around milling Eastern Red Cedar from my property that has died and still standing for the rest of the project.
    Another 1 of a kind build from 50+ year old boat.
    Will enjoy following your Build.
    It's your ball of wax... make the candle that "YOU" want.
    Cheers.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Wow what great projects you have. Welcome to the Boat Werks! Thanks so much and whatever you do Stay Motovated 😁👍

  • @tanglediver
    @tanglediver Před 7 měsíci

    Permission to come aboard sir? New to your channel.
    I think I would shy away from a trawler build. The over riding factor being center of gravity. But the pilot house concept turned my head, very tasty possibilities there. Nice little boat!

  • @christianriedel7017
    @christianriedel7017 Před 8 měsíci +4

    First I've seen one of these and instantly fell in love with them, like a mini version of my Hans Christian...please for the love of god don't bastardize it and kill the lines with a pilot house or worse.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Pilothouse conversions if done properly are not dis-pleasing to the eye. The problem lies in the fact that most pilothouse conversions are hideously ugly. We will be discussing this further….

  • @growntogether9913
    @growntogether9913 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Definitely a protected water boat. That foam is likely there to limit the amount of water that can flood up through the motor well in certain sailing conditions. It is a known problem for that hull design. The fiberglass around the keel is also thin and failures from water freezing are out there on the forums. Curious to see what you think once you really get into it.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      You may be right in several points. But I always marvel at the keyboard commandos who repeat opinions from Internet forums. This has happened with my Alberg 30, the Mustang 22, the Albin 27 pocket trawler. Misinformation and vox populi….

    • @growntogether9913
      @growntogether9913 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@motorcityboatwerks No offense was intended. Every boat is a compromise in some way. As I said it will be interesting to see what you do with the project.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      No offense taken😁 we enjoy robust and spirited discussion in The Boat Werks. Be sure to subscribe! Thanks and Keep it coming!😁

  • @levo3740
    @levo3740 Před 7 měsíci

    Hi, I am from Crimea and I vote for spray hood. I am the happy owner of Saga 24.

  • @JustInvertedFpv
    @JustInvertedFpv Před 8 měsíci +1

    I sailed around the world on a 43ft sailboat. We spent a year in St Augustine Florida getting ready to leave. There was a boat that came into the marina one day called little boat. It was an old wooden 20 something foot sailboat that looked like it was sinking just sitting still. It had barely any freeboard (distance from deck to the water line). It was tiny inside. We later saw them in New Zealand and i have no idea how they actually made it there in that boat. So you could cross oceans in almost anything but i wouldn't recommend crossing oceans in a 20ft boat. We encountered a massive storm on our way from Bermuda to Nova Scotia Canada. 30+ foot waves and over 55knots of wind for 3 days while sailing over the Grand Banks. The waves were breaking over the stern constantly and we were survival mode with a tiny storm jib up and surfing waves up to 14knots and then smashing into the back of the next wave making the boat want to broach. I cannot imagine getting through that in a 20ft boat.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you for your comments! Wow what an amazing adventure😁 Please be sure to like and subscribe and Welcome Aboard 👍

  • @thechiraltheory7712
    @thechiraltheory7712 Před 3 měsíci

    I like the pocket trawler ides but it might make docking very difficult when it comes to the boat handling.
    I'm thinking about a pilothpuse build on a J/24 of all things. It's wide and fast and cheap. Perfect for that, imo.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Welcome aboard ! 😁👍The Skipper 20 is destined for a Pilothouse Conversion. Check out the other Episodes about the design and theory.

    • @thechiraltheory7712
      @thechiraltheory7712 Před 3 měsíci

      @motorcityboatwerks Thank you, I saw it after I posted. Another thing I was thinking about, the Compac 23 Pilothouse looks like they literally just cut the cabin house on a regular Compac 23 and used the piece they cut out as the hardtop for the pilothouse. It just has me thinking about easy solutions and being able to keep the OEM looking sliding hatch. It seems that would be pretty easy on certain applications.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 3 měsíci

      Check out my video on building the Compac 16 pilothouse conversion. That’s exactly one of the steps in my build. Not quite as simple as you think but it is the top sliding hatch repurposed. czcams.com/video/RPys9TLfwqo/video.htmlsi=cFGTZCymA9Wo2sSY

  • @brandenjones716
    @brandenjones716 Před měsícem +1

    You kind of remind me of John malkovich when you speak pretty cool

  • @maarten_notjustagrip
    @maarten_notjustagrip Před 2 měsíci

    Hi. First time Iv'e watched your channel. I'm about to purchase a locally built TLC 19 here in Cape Town South Africa, and I am also contemplating a pilot house or hard Bimini of some type. It already has a double opening companionway, which does make space to stand. Given your skillset, would raising the entire cabin be feasible? Find the best cut line, whether the whole cabin at the deck or just the cabin roof, lift an fill the gap. Thanks for the videos. I'll certainly be watching more.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 2 měsíci

      Welcome Aboard Maarten!😎 Raising the deck or cabin is an advanced project that I do not recommend for a novice. While I might try such a project, I just think there’s a number of things that might go wrong and it really takes some planning and investment. I always recommend a pilothouse or hardtop instead as I just think it’s a more manageable project for a beginner. 😁👍

    • @maarten_notjustagrip
      @maarten_notjustagrip Před 2 měsíci

      @@motorcityboatwerks I understand. I DID say with YOUR skillset tho... Although mine is also wide enough to attempt such a task with a reasonable degree of certainty, I dont think my boat is enough of a wreck to go chopping it up, lol. To be honest, that little boat is so close to perfect, I'd maybe spend 40 hrs on a cleanup, max. Mine, on the other hand...will need more than 40.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 2 měsíci

      I’ve got plenty of project to keep me busy 😉

  • @kimschultz7105
    @kimschultz7105 Před 8 měsíci

    I would love to see a pilot house for more headroom. I'm retired and looking at getting a trailer sailer to enjoy but find the small yachts have not a lot of headroom for a taller person. Any way I think that little boat is beautiful!

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I totally hear you. Be sure to some and subscribe so you don’t miss the interesting things I have planned 😁

  • @cawfeedawg
    @cawfeedawg Před 8 měsíci

    It’s about the experience of the captain. More so than the boat

  • @fredbalster3100
    @fredbalster3100 Před 8 měsíci +1

    It's perfect for a daysailer. For a pocket cruiser the pilot house would be nice along with electronics and kitchen.
    Was the great stuff installed because of water entering the space from the motor well? 😊

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Fred I think you might be right. I will be discussing this during my live stream this weekend. Thanks for the comment 😁

    • @fredbalster3100
      @fredbalster3100 Před 8 měsíci

      A second reason for the great stuff would be the well was thought to be flimsy. And the great stuff was used to shore up the well.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Defitely not Great Stuff
      It’s commercial close cell

    • @fredbalster3100
      @fredbalster3100 Před 8 měsíci

      If the well is sound, you could glass over the foam and fill the voids. Drain the water to the well. You could store fuel in the compartment. 😊

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks Fred. Please consider supporting the Boat Werks. These episodes would not be possible without your support patreon.com/MotorCityBoatWerks

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If rowboats have crossed vast ocean expanses, then there is no reason the Skipper 20 can't.

  • @time.5316
    @time.5316 Před 8 měsíci

    I just subscribed so I could follow your project. My vote is to leave it original. This also means get rid of the swim ladder. No "character". Looking forward to your videos.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci +1

      If you get rid of the swim ladder how do you get back in the boat when you fall over board or go skinny dipping?

    • @time.5316
      @time.5316 Před 8 měsíci

      @@motorcityboatwerks I think that the person that sails that kind of a boat isn't interested in skinny dipping. That's why I recommended that. For falling overboard, if single-handed, you're supposed to be trailing a safety line. The swim ladder will be long gone (and useless) before you realize what happened.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 5 měsíci

      Interesting idea. 🐙Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @wildernessmichael
    @wildernessmichael Před 7 měsíci

    Reminds me of the vision that Sven Yrvind and his small world sailing micro sailboats. I love it. I especially love aluminum Tom Colvin Gazelle and Doxy designs. Kinda like the SV Seeker Junk Rigged design. ✨ fiberglass is a hell no for me. But I do appreciate its design. Similar to Wave Rover II ⛵

  • @xzqzq
    @xzqzq Před 8 měsíci

    After he sailed solo across the Atlantic, the tiny sailboat Sir Francis Chichester used was displayed in American shopping malls....Could not believe how small the thing was...@ 12 '.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Lol pretty sure it was bigger than 12 feet😆… Gipsy Moth III was 39ft, and his boat Gipsy Moth IV was 53 feet long purpose built ocean racer.

  • @wascalywabbit
    @wascalywabbit Před 8 měsíci +1

    I want a MacGregor, strip all the sail rigging, load it up with solar and lithium, run a torqeedo, and do the great loop

  • @robertmagnusjamieson1759
    @robertmagnusjamieson1759 Před 8 měsíci

    the hull looks identical to a Dell Quay fisherboat, which were 20ft long, and came with a choice of wheelhouses, and cuddys to choose from, with choices ranging from totally open to the gunnels, to three quarter length wheelhouse, and the rest decked in, and any combination in between,
    and with a choice of either an inboard, outdrive, or outboard with a well,
    but i never saw any of them rigged for sail,

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      Interesting find! The Skipper 20 was reportedly made from a mold of a motor launch by Sovereign Sails in 1979 in Clearwater, Florida. The keel is not a bilge keel like the Dell Quay, but an integral encapsulated shoal draft keel.

  • @gking5522
    @gking5522 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I wouldn't... But I'm close to 80. But, since you asked:
    If flipping for profit is the aim, spruce it up, fix what's broken and sell it.

  • @jonkwin9620
    @jonkwin9620 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Raise the whole cabin roof by 8 inches, put in some forward facing portholes. Put in a mini galley, with small gimballed stove, fold out table and 2 good berths. Extend the engine compartment, put in a small diesel with generator and prop-shaft. Make an awning for the cockpit from 2 solar panels. Put in navigation systems and sounder, a shower, head and water-maker. Then actually cross an ocean as the title suggests it might.

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      I think if I was going to cross oceans, I’d stick with a sailboat. But your description of the micro trawler idea is interesting 😁

    • @jonkwin9620
      @jonkwin9620 Před 8 měsíci

      I would still keep the sails, as well as have a little diesel engine. If you had furlers on jib and main sails it would be a great one man off shore cruiser@@motorcityboatwerks

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 5 měsíci

      😎

  • @mikekennedy5470
    @mikekennedy5470 Před 8 měsíci

    What was the final purchase price ? I also watched this and many other as I have about 2 years until I totally retire.

  • @randmayfield5695
    @randmayfield5695 Před 8 měsíci

    Robin Lee Graham sailed around the world in his 24ft sail boat 'Dove' back in the 70's. With lots of skill and even more good luck a person could sail a fitted cargo container across an ocean. Having been to sea many times, that person would not be me. Lol

  • @cnc75adventures49
    @cnc75adventures49 Před 8 měsíci

    Salty👍👍

  • @roysharples2921
    @roysharples2921 Před 8 měsíci

    It can only be red 🎉

    • @motorcityboatwerks
      @motorcityboatwerks  Před 8 měsíci

      LOL I understand your resistance to change. But Black sails or just too sexy. Check out the episode with the Compac 16 Pilothouse I did with black sails. I will never go red again😎