a petekey video essay.
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2022
- tried to make this relatively beginner friendly lmao
pleaseeee correct me on anything i might have gotten wrong in this in the comments i always want to be knowing more about this !!
link to the slides:
docs.google.com/presentation/...
video of the 2003 fireside bowl concert:
• My Chemical Romance ...
sources/learn more carrd:
petekeyinfo.carrd.co/
spotify playlist with all the songs pete wrote that are probably about mikey that are on spotify:
open.spotify.com/playlist/6rb...
hey friends just posted a new video that includes a section talking about updates about this situation and some faq’s i’ve been getting: czcams.com/video/55h3Uhnt-bw/video.html
"unimportant others"? they have have to play pete's little loverboy songs about a situationship from 2005 that he isn't over, and this is the thanks they get?
-my sister
she is vexxed
Pete Wentz wouldn't know subtlety if it hit him in the face with his own bass
This was randomly recommended to me and now I'm a petekey truther.
Real
same! and im not even a fallout boy fan!
Same, I never understood why people shipped them until this
I always was and had absolutely 0 base for it. I learnt petekey existed in 2015, saw them together in 2 pics and was immediately like YUP THAT FEELS VERY MUCH RIGHT 😂 never looked into it more than that so this is making 2015 me so happy 😂
Now that I think about it, how did I ship a ship so hard with nothing more than a vibe?
Same
i'm here 3 days after fall out boy played bang the doldrums live for the first time and mikey came on stage to play bass during the show. my brain is on fire over it
!!!
I was literally there at that concert 😭
@@slimjim5274 luckyyy my show had the 2nd time ever lmao (this is so weird responding a yr late i just realized yt hasn’t been notifying me ab comments properly)
@@bbblakeisew help I just saw this and I forgot I commented
i know i'm unhinged about this entire situation but no one is more unhinged about this situation than peter kingston wentz the third
REALLLLLL
This feels like a history lecture and I'm living for it 😭
it is a history lecture 🙄
@@bbblakeisew actually watching this in history class rn and let me tell you it's so much better than learning about the declaration of independence
IKR
This gives me the energy of sitting on the end of your friend’s bed during a sleepover and listening to them explain some complex video game lore while you watch them playing Kingdom Hearts and I love it.
Shit, I've never been a shipper of them, just love both groups, but all this story feels SO real to me, 'cause I totally behaved just like Pete did. I had a very short but intense and somewhat unresolved relationship with some guy and it messed with my brain in a very similar way. I was obsessing, overthinking every little moment we had together, writing dramatic posts and desperately trying to get his attention again and again. I was a mess and it all meant almost nothing to him. One day I felt like it was over and the very next day I felt like I missed him so much I couldn't even breath. It took me 7 YEARS to stop having these feelings. Three summer (yeah me too) days together, seven years of deep longing afterwards. I feel for you, Pete, I feel for you.
My theory, based on my experience and on the facts from the video: Mikey and Pete had (supposedly) a brief, but intense and highly emotional affair, which ended kinda abruptly. Maybe they even had no sex, just a lot of flirting-touching-closeness-wakinguptogether-willwe-wontwe. I guess the last days of the tour were quite busy, so they had no opportunity to come to any clear conclusions. But Pete started developing (or already had) a lot of feelings, and Mikey just... didn't bother. Or he decided that they had no future but to be "ex-friends till the end". Whatever. The important part is he stopped being all touchy-feely and set some boundaries. Like "yeah, you're a good guy, we can be friends, i guess, but the past is in the past". But Pete got kinda stuck in the past, 'cause this is what happens when you have some unresolved feelings. You relive your memories again and again and again... and, if you a poet, and Pete IS a poet, you write about it. A. Lot. till you can't even think about "what-if"s anymore.
Your one of those people who definitely said "I could do a whole essay about this" then actually just straight up proved it.
This looks like a literal school presentation I'm living for it
omg katya pfp i love
@@bbblakeisew marry me 😍😍
Lmao imagine an emo school where they make you do presentations on emo band ships lmfao I would love that it would be so funny
Since Love From The Other Side just dropped I'm here to say, Pete is most definitely still validating us Peteky truthers. With lyrics like 'you were the sunshine of my lifetime,' 'we were a hammer to the statue of David,' and the most condemning evidence: 'summer falling through our fingers again,' it's safe to say he's still in the same hole he dug us all into.
the “milky way” description on the vinyl gave me a HEART ATTACK
@ironicStimming Oh yeah, I saw milky way and thought I was hallucinating.
Listening to the new album right now and it's already full of content to unpack. It has lyrics like "I spent ten years in a bit of chemical haze" (song is kinda about drugs but NOT ONLY) and "So let's twist the knife again like we did last summer". And these just what I got from the first listen.
Omg I never thought about the song as being Petekey before…
And now that the albums released, there’s So Much (For) Stardust, there’s lines like “we thought we had it all”, “I think I’ve been going through it, and I’ve been putting your name to it”, “I used to think it’d all get better”, and perhaps the biggest one “in another life, you were my babe, in another life, you were the sunshine of my lifetime, what would you trade the pain for? I’m not sure”
And lyrics in the other songs like Flu Game, “last night I dreamt I still knew you, I carved out a place in the world for two, but it’s empty without you” (that whole song is Petekey now that I realize it-)
So I'm rewatching this again and two things
1. HeyChris's post in September of 2022. Manz is a MENACE
2. I wonder if when Pete was writing (any album after Infinity) he'd be with Patrick and be like:
Pete:"Okay just one more song about him then I'll stop-"
Pat: YOU SAID THAT TWO ALBUMS AGO
sobbing rolling around on the floor dead/pos
@@bbblakeisew please 😭 expect more comments from me. This tragedy of a love story has consumed me-
@@miaguerro10 god gives his hardest battles to his emo-est soldiers
What was the post in Sept?? I think it got deleted, can't find anything anywhere!
if someone was this publicly obsessed with me, i think id be silent on it too😧
i am definitely in my pete wentz 2005 era
The amount of heartbreak my man Peter Kingston Wentz the third went through due to some twink that it lasted a DECADE is crazy. If I loved someone like that and that happened to me I would probably also write about for 10+ years
i never liked to ship real ppl, i always thought it was rlly weird especially saying my classmates would ship me with my friend which made both of us uncomfortable, but this literally has 2 much information 2 back it up on. It makes to much sense
I will not take the Patrick, Andy, and Joe slander!!!! 😭
Happy fourth of July! Last night, FOB played Bang The Duldrums live, the night before that Mikey Way played Pete's bass on stage. I've been a fan of FOB for some years now but never really went down the Petekey rabbit hole until right now because the evidence is evidencing. Thanks for the explanation :)
I've been part of the online petekey community (basically us devoted fans right here) for nearly a decade now and I literally mean this next part with all my heart: Pete and Mikey are the biggest love story I have ever known imo. Seriously, I never meant anything more. What really killed me exactly 5 years ago on this day (happy birthday mania!!!!) was when I first listened to Bishops Knife Trick, that song fcking broke me because it reflected literally !!!everything!!!!. Pete keeps breaking my heart whenever fob drops new music, because it's so easy to put the pieces together after all these years and with all the (very obvious) evidence we have. The Sweet Little Dudes have a gigantic place in my heart, whenever the temperature rises outside and the seasons change from spring to summer, I think of the Summer of Like, and (nearly) every fall out boy song takes me back to warped. I love you Mikeyway, I love you Peter Wentz.
at 38:21, "kaleidoscope eyes" is a song sung by panic! at the disco on their vices and virtues album from 2011. in the chorus, there's these lines: "kaleidoscope eyes sparkle at the world / my emerald city downtown girl", which. mikey way has heterochromia, so his eyes are literally green and brown "kaleidoscope" eyes. also, "summer's on its deathbed" is a line from another panic! song off the same album called "the calendar". "the calendar" contains the following lines: "pray I could replace her, forget the way her tears taste", "put another x on the calendar, summer's on its deathbed / there is simply nothing worse than knowing how it ends / and i meant everything i said that night / i will come back to life / but only for you, only for you", and "anticipation's on the other line / and obsession called while you were out". both songs also reference cannibalism, but, like, with this sexual/romantic context. also, the song "electric touch" off of taylor swift's most recent album (her re-release of speak now) featured fall out boy and had the lines "i've gotten used to no one calling my phone / i've grown accustomed to sleeping alone" and "all i know is this could either break my heart or bring me back to life / got a feeling your electric touch could fill this ghost town up with life". the idea of, like, wanting someone and "coming back to life" for someone is present in both "the calendar" and "electric touch". that being said, while credited as a writer for both panic! songs (and multiple others on the album, which is a really good album, and i don't endorse brendon urie but i do endorse all panic! at the disco music from before 2016, so you should listen to vices and virtues on youtube so you can also experience the bonus tracks) pete wentz was not credited as a writer on "electric touch", and, as far as i can tell, the only member of fob that actually had anything to do with "electric touch" was patrick stump, but it's enough of a connection to feel relevant. anyways. that was my contribution! loved the video
tysm!!
Electric touch was written entirely by Taylor Swift (Speak Now is designed to be an album with songs written 100% by Taylor so I doubt Pete had anything to do with it especially that this song was written in like 2008-2010) and is propably about Joe Jonas (Im like 99% sure). It features FOB mostly bc Taylor was a fan 🤷
Fall Out Boy = Andy Hurley, Patrick Stump, Joe Trohman, Pete Wentz. There are no "unimportant others". Hope that helps. 👍
The time and dedication that went into this is so fucking cool. Also I can't believe I found this a whole ass month later. Worth all the time
insanity does amazing things!
This is possibly the most amazing thing ever. I had no idea anyone cared anymore. This gives me existential hope. I’ve been quoting amazing New Mexico sunset and tormenting my friends for years. I’m so glad this exists.
The line "What's the opposite of amnesia" and the lyric "I am the opposite of amnesia" from Centuries.... my HEART!!!!
34:08 the auto-generated captions here calling mikey way microwave has me in tears lmaoooo i know auto captions can be silly always but this one really got me
i love MichaelWave
decided to learn abt petekey after being into fob for like. 8 years but not knowing anything abt the members. i am now 110% convinced and also completely devastated amazing video thank u
okay but the sweet little dudes shirt being a PINK GUN is crazy
are you lgbt cuz your gun pink
I’ve been in Pete’s shoes before except I journaled all my feelings in a notebook. Once I got over them, I crumbled up all the pages and threw them away out of embarrassment. Doesn’t mean the memories are gone though.
As someone who is REALLY into mcr AND fob and the whole petekey situation, (I also was in the heychris Livestreams) u got most of it right. It was amazing
JOE HURLY😭
ngl i dont like that you said "who cares about them" about fob bc theyre very much important to a lot of petekey lore and outside of that theyre very talented
6:51 I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO FOUND QUESTION 2 ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS WHILE READING PETES LIVEJOURNAL
"Joe who's the drummer" "the rest of them don't matter" *angry fob fan noises* (like Patrick technically you could say was the drummer, Andy is the official drummer! Joe is the lead guitarist with the fro like Ray 😭)
hey, hey, i try - i got it wrong again in a diff comment 😔. i’ve gotten a bit more into them since i posted this though
@@bbblakeisew fair fair lol. Take it mire as teasing than actual hate
@@bbblakeisew the only other thing I can think of to correct you (I say as I'm sitting through this glorious lectre) is GINASFS on infinity on high has been said and mostly proved to be about Patrick, not Mikey, although some lyrics were taken from live journal. "Trade baby blues for wide eyes browns" Patrick's eyes for Pete's. I have more evidence I just can't think of it off the top of my head lol
@@eirwena.5381 yea looking back i’m less sure ab GINASFS and 27 also ty
Agaisbqw I'm sorry, just as these things pop up I'm inclined to mention them 😭 27 could be that theme, but when the band as a whole was suicidal (only one who wasn't in fall out boy at one point was Joe, and he also had a shitty life fr), Pete said "I don't think I'll make it to 27" then when that song came out everyone has turned 27 and it was just adorable dgaiwvwxsiwbxuwiw
most of this is right just felt the need to add that GINASFS is about patrick and not mikey!
I know this comment is over a year old now, but I also have to amend that Miss Missing You is likewise not a Petekey song. It was penned by Patrick during the hiatus, when he was working on Soul Punk, and it’s explicitly about Pete. Patrick has discussed it in a commentary track and in interviews.
the most embarrassing fact about me is that the petekey lore has been my spin for over a year.
i put this video in my watch later a few weeks ago, and i end up watching it start to finish two days after mikey way plays with fob during so much for (tour)dust. the impact from this video eassy after having seen those videos of them publically interacting again after 6 years on top of the agony of not being at any of those concerts really takes the cake
an hour of my life missing but surely not wasted I love hearing about petekey lore
the way this threw me back to 2014 tumblr... i think the kids are alright
This is literally devastating Jesus freakin Christ. The most dramatic love story of our time.
I always loved the albums even though I couldnt make sense half of the tracks. Now that I know of this context EVERYTHING MAKES LITERAL FUCKING SENSE. Its like all this time I HAD BEEN LISTENING WITH ONLY ONE EARPHONE ON.
It's insane to me how long this has gone on. This shit started when I was a baby emo, and people young enough to be my children are down the SAME rabbit hole, and it's getting DEEPER!
Damn... The power of autism
this feels like it should have been made 5 years ago BUT ITS NOT AND I LOVE IT
17:44 “the drummer of Fall Out Boy” 🥲🥲🥲 (Andy Hurley is the drummer. Joe Trohman is guitar)
It’s ok I forgive. I’ve been waiting for someone to give a complete history in a way that’s actually comprehensible and easy to access. Keep up the good work, soldier 🙏🖤
There’s loads of tumblr master posts and even a caard I believe
You can tell you really care about this, like i can hear your voice shake like mine does when i get really excited and it takes a lot to make the words go right.
Frank's "I am a monster.' t-shirt was part of the Skeleton Crew clothing design company based in New Jersey. It was founded by My Chemical Romance rhythm guitarist, Frank Iero and his wife Jamia Nestor.
How??? How OLD are you??? because my god? i've known the petekey lore since i was??? YOUNGER than you are now surely? I used to fucking devOUR pete wentz' LIVEJOURNAL back in '05/'06 like WERE YOU ALIVE BACK THEN!? 😫 and now this NEW GENERATION IS SPREADING THE GOOD WORD OF PETEKEY i am deceased throw me off a cliff plz and thankyou 💀✌
yep! on your question: i was 15 when posting this. it is definitely weird doing all this about shit that happened before i was even born(shoutout heychris) but like i really appreciate the amount of TIME and LOVE that has gone into these people and this theory over the years and it has been weirdly heartwarming seeing a bunch of comments similar to this one.
@@bbblakeisewi can't believe how much chris has given us over the years petekey wise and even him/pete wise lmao even just in the last three or so years he's literally insane for that he confirmed somewhere on tumblr the popular petekey/petechris fallout theory post and said a good like? 70? 90? percent of the persons theory was true so either he's still having fun fucking with us all these years later or he's like "eh it's been long enough nobody cares anymore so yes it's true i had a thing for mikeyway and made pete jealous of it because he too had a thing for mikeyway"
This whole slideshow is just amazing. Outstanding performance. I now believe in Petekey. Thank You.
I just came to say that yesterday I was telling a girl from another fandom about Petekey for 8 hours with lyric analysis and all of that and well, today my CZcams suggested me your video. I just love the fact that you made the presentation. Just love it.
...Joe definitely isn't a fob's drummer, darling :D
Also on Mania there is song Hold Me Tight or Don't with all of that "I took too many hits off this memory" theme and whole 2nd verse:
I got too high again when I realized I can't not be with you
Or be just your friend
I love you to death but I just can't
I just can't pretend we were lovers first
Confidants but never friends
Were we ever friends?
Also I think that fresh FOB's "Love From The Other Side" is about Mikey too
"Every lover's got a little dagger in their hand" - hello "Miss Missing You"
"Summer falling through our fingers again"
"hurricane heat in my head" - hurricanes are Petekey thing too
"Inscribed like stone and faded by the rain: "Give up what you love before it does you in…"" - hello "Bang the Doldrums"'s tombstones theme...
ive never been a shipper of anything but the sheer effort put into this holy shit. massive respect my dude
DID U SEE MIKEY FUCKING WAY WITH FALL OUT BOY???? BAMBOOZLED
YES HOLY FUCK OMG FOB’S STORY OF PETE COMING OVER TO HIM WHILE HE WAS PLAYING !!!!! BRO SAID THINGS CHANGE BUT PEOPLE NEVER DO
… update vid out now 😜
@@bbblakeisew 🫡 Watched it dude! Will support everything that u do in the future for your channel! U got this🙌🏼
I’m in love with the background with the crooked tv next to a basketball hoop and above tiny radiator. ur Frank Iero best combined with all this makes for the perfect learning environment
This lore is incredible and thank you for organizing it. Bless you for this essay. 10/10
Every few month i fall back down the petekey rabbithole and I love you sm for making this in a video-format.
P.S. lover your energy and keep up the good work!!
this was so much fun!
I also went to the las MCR concert ( the one in mexico) and it literally changed my brain chemistry 😭🖤
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this! And setting up the Playlist ♡
SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS LATER THANK U FOR MAKING THIS
you saying Andy Hurley from FOB is unimportant is the reason why this historical lecture lost me
i’ve reformed since this was posted dw
lifechanging video essay, i'm never going to be the same after this. seriously though, a surprising amount of new info in here, great stuff!! clearly a lot of effort put into it too. the clipart emojis were a cherry on top XD
thank you sooo much
my favorite thing about this is that every time you talk about a key piece of evidence/something that Happened, you turn wide-eyed towards the camera as if to say, "are u guys SEEING THIS right now"
they... play tHE song.... like 2 days ago...OMFG
lots of feelings being felt
I saw a random post once that said, 'Do you think Mikey Way listens to FoB songs and thinks "Ah, this one is abt me"?' And I was cackling
Also I love your headturns whenever you're pointing out the lack of subtlety in anyone's posts/ lyrics. Really added to the whole essence
he's like that garfield meme. "huh, i wonder who that's for"
Absolutely wonderful presentation! The content was very interesting and fun, but beyond that, you are a wonderful presenter. Very well researched, well spoken, and you were very passionate too! Keep up the great work.
Just watched this entire thing and it is now 10:30 pm. I was so invested for this entire video, literally one of the best video essays I’ve sat all the way through!
thank you!!
do i have a shit ton of hw due within the next few hours? yes. am i continuing to watch this anyway ? absolutely
so i just saw FOB live and i haven't been a part of the shipping/emo trinity fandom for maybe 6-7 years, but this video got recommended to me and despite the fact that back then, i was wayyyy more into panic!, twenty one pilots and then into the girls more (halsey, marina, melanie, lana etc), this has really brought so much from when i was 14 to 15 years old, even though i never cared much about FOB and MCR as much. at twenty-one years old, i think it is time for me to revisit my emo phase full on, and this is the scariest realisation (and i am so ready for this rabbithole to start again)
thank you thank you thank you thank you literally thank u, this is glorious I needed this like oxygen
please i NEED an updated ver with how mikey played with fob and they played bang the doldrums live
it’s literally loading the upload rn/srs
i clicked on this and then reALIZED IT WAS AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES LONG
there’s a lot to say!
bless you for putting this all together
im watching this as a really big panic at the disco fan but a casual mcr and fob fan,, so like when u were talking about fourth of july i was like "is that your northern downpour?"
also i really like the vid, very informative and your jokes are very similar to my sense of humor lol. i liked the slideshow format also (:
THE WAY YOU BROKE THE FOURTH WALL AFTER SAYING “totally back in love” IS SO FUNNY
i actually know alicia simmons !!! shes friends with my parents and they told me that he cheated on her so i assume they got that information from her directly, ive never asked her because i dont want to be rude
joe is NAWT the drummer of FOB 💀💀
this was an hour and twenty minutes well spent
i agree
This was absolutely incredible thank you so much. Also guess who has now interacted publicly in the year of our lord 2023 :))))
Really though spectacular video you seem awesome and explained everything very very well I am now officially a petekey truther
thank you so much gahhh
Wow July 2nd must’ve wrecked this community
there were some feelings being felt!!
ten minutes in and i’m already a petekey truther 😭 lord
I just watched this whole thing and it's crazy to think I had no idea about the connection between Pete Wentz and Mikey Way a few hours ago and now I will forever get sad and think about mikey way while listening to the songs pete wrote about him
i know pretty much nothing about either of these bands or any of this history. absolutely insane story man. and i thought the last shadow puppets were insane nah this is INSAAAANE . great video 🙏🙏
a video essay about this is WILDD 😭🙏
If you turn on captions at 58:10 they say"uh here's some more uh pictures of monkey bike"
i need to get my sleep schedule back on track so ik saving this for the morning
A friend of mine asked me about the petekey lore™️ and now I’ll force them to watch this video with me
this deserves so much attention the amount of work you put in is insane 😭😭
this ruined my life, thanks !
but in all seriousness, oh my GOD. as a fan of mcr and fob this SHOOK ME TO MY CORE. ID LOVE MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS OHMYGOD THIS WAS AMAZING
Idk if you mention this later- you probably do, I just haven’t seen the whole video yet- but the September 4th 2005 livejournal post is so obviously what became I’m Like A Lawyer The Way I’m Always Trying To Get You Off (Me & You)
1) waking up next to big brown eyes “if I woke up next to you” “eyes the size of baby worlds”
2) LITERALLY MENTIONS SITTING UNDERNEATH THE HONEYMOON “me and you setting in a honeymoon”
i don’t talk about that song specifically, but i mention the 30+ songs he wrote ab mikey(playlist of them in the description) and that nearly all his blog posts got turned into song lyrics. the only song i break down piece by piece is fourth of july because of time and that’s the one that punches me in the gut the hardest.
@@bbblakeisewYES. I’m back half a year later to update that I did in fact finish the video haha. I’m so obsessed with FOB and Pete’s lyric writing and I love reading the livejournal posts and making those connections to the songs. Fourth of July is such a banger (but Bang the Doldrums is still the og 💪💪)
this feel like we’re on a facetime and i’m loving it
you should do one on frerard, there’s a ton of evidence on that one too
YES PLEASE
talk ab this typa request in my most recent vid! also general updates on the situation
convinced pete watching this
HELP THIS IS SO AWESOME i know what i'll be watching for an hour 😭
i loved this video so much dude
You won’t believe what just happened 😭
lmao - update vid is up now
the only time ill pay attention in class
FOB brought Mikey Way on stage on the 1st of July in San Diego
yea… yea…
this is the stuff i expect to be taught in history classes
only presentation ive ever sat through paying full attention
this is fun to watch after the first live performances of ginasfs and bang the doldrums, and mikey way played bass during saturday in the year of our lord 2023
edit: they played ginasfs live the same show that mikey was at (in san diego) and the next show they played bang the doldrums (in la)
thank youuuuu - also i talk about some updates in my most recent vid if ur interested!
@bbblakeisew oooo i’ll definitely check that out !! thanks !
The way i went to a FOB concert last year and they played GINASFS at my show and then bang the doldrums at the next one, almost cried LMAO