When my professor from college returns to debate... with brutal honesty.

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  • čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
  • #professor #debate
    One of my old professors from Grad School reached out and offered to come on the channel. In this video we have a debate on race at the college and things get brutally honest. Slightly edited for time. If you all find this valuable I will share the full conversation.
    Links to my Locals community, Discord & more:
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Komentáře • 369

  • @Princess_Feona
    @Princess_Feona Před měsícem +272

    I resigned from a university when I was informed that I would not be allowed to fail any student in a “protected class” regardless of their exam scores or the quality of their work. I wasn’t willing to put my name on anyone’s degree who did not earn it.
    There’s a reason why our country is filled with a generation of unqualified scientists. I suspect other fields are suffering the same degradation of talent and ability.

    • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
      @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Před měsícem +13

      My mother-in-law was told the same thing and this was more than 20 years ago.

    • @15thobserver
      @15thobserver Před měsícem

      Funny enough is that the most scientific people I know of are doing experiments all the time to test their reality and they are blacklisted by academia. While at the same time there are people graduating with Doctorates who are average level students at best. Its my honest held belief that the whole system was built to destroy intellectual progression in such a subtle way. Meritocracy was a lie told to the peasants (us) to keep them competing amongst themselves.

    • @mustang607
      @mustang607 Před měsícem +15

      Didn't this start with participation trophies in grade school, a bit after new math replaced math?

    • @FreakazoidRobots
      @FreakazoidRobots Před měsícem +6

      You have more courage than the vast majority of professors, I'm afraid.

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 Před měsícem +9

      its so absurd and as someone out in the workforce - we have recent graduates coming in with zero skills. I had someone come to work in a political campaigning charity who didn't understand how to conduct primary research, ie she was asking about a new politician on the scene and didn't know how to find out about him. The idea of putting his name into Google hadn't occured to her. She had a first class masters degree.
      we were all flabbergasted. I know older people always look at younger people and ask wtf but this was extreme.

  • @nascentcloud3740
    @nascentcloud3740 Před měsícem +304

    It's called DEI and yeah, it's racist.

    • @NeoN-PeoN
      @NeoN-PeoN Před měsícem +1

      Extremely racist.

    • @petercaulfield5065
      @petercaulfield5065 Před měsícem

      DEI isn't racist. It's primarily AntiWhite. It is a tool which weaponizes already existing feelings of envy and inferiority against all characteristics of the progenitors of civilized, First World societies (aka "those in Globalism's way). As such, it is also staunchly against anything White, heterosexual, Christian or male.

    • @smc1897
      @smc1897 Před měsícem +33

      Diversity = targeted recruitment of activists and subversives
      Equity = fast tracking those people into positions of authority
      Inclusion = completing the capture of those positions by exempting them from performance metrics

    • @ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq
      @ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq Před měsícem

      DEI is literally what the Bill of Rights was meant to protect. Yes, I get that you think legacies and nepotism aren't corrupt.

    • @fancygiraffe3340
      @fancygiraffe3340 Před měsícem

      @@ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq No, the bill of rights is meant to restrict government involvement in people's lives. DEI is a top-down government initiative that picks and chooses between people based on race instead of competence.
      Nepotism isn't good but you're not going to get rid of it by abandoning meritocracy. Quite the opposite. Now you'll just have incompetent rich kids and incompetent poor kids in all your best schools leading to incompetent leadership in institution.
      Not a single ounce of competence anywhere to be found will not make your nation better in any way.
      EDIT: DEI is also a way to enforce ideological conformity among the entire bureaucracy and financial sector. You must either accept this ideology or the institutions that follow it shove you in the trash.

  • @darkdudironaji
    @darkdudironaji Před 29 dny +53

    That last story is nuts. Passing a student, who has done no work, makes a college degree worthless. Congratulations on putting people in debt for zero prospect of jobs due to inability to handle the work that they failed to prepare for.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 Před 29 dny +11

      It’s actually the cruelest thing to do to someone. Lie to them.. and when they go off into the world.. their ego is so big.. and when they fail day 1.. their entire world crumbles.. it’s cruel.. when u realize you were gaslit, and the whole world is laughing at you.. and u literally.. have no skill.
      It’s cruel

    • @cuerex8580
      @cuerex8580 Před 25 dny +2

      @@npcimknot958 this makes school pointless

    • @abraham_myshkin
      @abraham_myshkin Před 21 dnem

      @@npcimknot958 This is absolutely true. It's unfortunate how disproportionately this scenario affects young people who benefit from affirmative action.

    • @Princess_Feona
      @Princess_Feona Před 5 dny

      @@npcimknot958 except now the employment systems are following the same rules. These people continue to fail upwards.

  • @steve8610
    @steve8610 Před měsícem +92

    "If you all find this valuable I will share the full conversation."
    PLEASE SHARE THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION!

  • @ghr8184
    @ghr8184 Před měsícem +27

    Another vote for "share the whole conversation."

  • @leebrown1049
    @leebrown1049 Před měsícem +234

    Glad you're doing okay Warren. You need to reach out to Bret Weinstein as that would be a great chat. Best wishes from the Uk

    • @Daycros
      @Daycros Před měsícem +10

      that would be something to look forward to.

    • @jenniferbond5771
      @jenniferbond5771 Před měsícem +7

      Great idea!

    • @kitkakitteh
      @kitkakitteh Před měsícem +4

      Bret - or Eric- love listening to him

    • @leebrown1049
      @leebrown1049 Před měsícem +6

      Actually if you can't reach out to Bret you could try reaching out to Chris Williamson who is a great lad and excellent youtuber, I know he's friends with Bret. I'll give you a mention in his chat and see if he picks up on it

    • @johanponken
      @johanponken Před 29 dny

      @@kitkakitteh I do too. (Eric has quite another field of expertise, though.)

  • @boazdror
    @boazdror Před měsícem +57

    Recently came across an interview with Douglas Murray in which the idea that Liberal Arts education might be a Ponzi scheme came up and it resonated with me... in that college perpetuates a world-view in which endless conversations about the institutions we inhabit - and intellectual obsession with the minutiae of narcissistic self-reflection - replace actual beneficial work, since everyone ends up out of a job, thousands of dollars in debt, and needing to justify the journey by doubling down on the cult-like dogma of these institutions.

    • @Lydia-Frost
      @Lydia-Frost Před měsícem +7

      I watched a Jordan Peterson video that explained that kids are already of that mind before they reach college. It starts way earlier than college.

    • @lafidala.1726
      @lafidala.1726 Před 24 dny

      Do you remember the name of the video?

    • @Lydia-Frost
      @Lydia-Frost Před 24 dny

      @@lafidala.1726 If you're asking me, it's on Jordan's account. Episode 453.

    • @boazdror
      @boazdror Před 24 dny

      For my part it was this one czcams.com/video/gCtBUvFL-QQ/video.htmlsi=6v1Oz1oAUwLpgDFd

    • @Gee-xb7rt
      @Gee-xb7rt Před 18 dny

      shows both of you are smoothed brained, liberal arts is a fast pass into corporate admin, they don't tell you that in college, they want you to take the business classes and get nowhere. admin wants critical thinkers, not you and Doug Murray.

  • @richarddrapeau7599
    @richarddrapeau7599 Před 29 dny +43

    "I feel students are idiots..." finally a professor understands.

    • @WanderAbroad-pq5ph
      @WanderAbroad-pq5ph Před 28 dny +1

      Everyone should be taken on their own merits and this has always been my conflict with teachers in my past. Sweeping generalization is a fallacy that helps
      nobody. That mentality seemed so prolific that it lead to the teacher having a near god complex as they believe the opposite about themselves. If the student
      is an idiot then they... are not. They are the all knowing that imparts knowledge and you should sit with your mouth open and absorb.
      Well, that turned out well as so many students turn into raging socialists that hate their country because they adapted their teachers beliefs. Back to me, I
      was curious to learn, not challenge and I would ask questions because I was paying attention to what the teachers were saying. I started asking questions they
      had no answers to and it doesn't go well when a teacher suddenly is met with the fact they are not omniscient. And heaven forbid you ask them to explain
      contradictions in their own teachings, from religion to science to physics. The incredible arrogance by teachers is renown for centuries as they tear into even
      their own that would dare question anything contrary to echo chamber called education.
      I was left with one blazing reality, I was learning from people that didn't care about me or my future or how things turned out for me. Even worse I was an idiot
      in their eyes, a moron, a fool, not worthy of their status. How well does education turn out when the educator has such a low view of their students? This professor
      does not understand as you stated and it would highlight what another stated, that actors and teachers are nearly always blatant narcissist's, believing they are simply
      better than those around them and this teacher stated exactly that "I feel students are idiots."

    • @em0_tion
      @em0_tion Před 12 dny

      Most sure are. I know I wasn't the exception! 😂

  • @sharpbakers1
    @sharpbakers1 Před 29 dny +23

    It’s insane to try and match the racial percentage in the population for any single job category.

    • @Gee-xb7rt
      @Gee-xb7rt Před 18 dny

      I hired kids to work front desk, shelving, and food patrol at a university library, really wasn't counting, got called to admin because I had 40% minority staff, and you should have heard the old white people scree. People really believe that great replacement stuff.

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 Před měsícem +12

    Warren your face lights up so much talking to him. Its lovely to see you happy.

  • @brentoutashape9141
    @brentoutashape9141 Před 29 dny +8

    I'm a bartender and a server. I don't discriminate, but I definitely profile. Past experience has proven me right many times, but I always give the best service and product, regardless. People, all people, are deserving of respect and dignity until they show you otherwise. If you have money in your hands, conduct yourself like a civilized adult, and understand the custom in my country known as "tips," you are welcome. I'm glad I'm a bartender and not a professor.

  • @Jay828__
    @Jay828__ Před měsícem +7

    Moving away from Western Massachusetts was best for my worldview and mental health.
    Consider it.

  • @felixthecat2786
    @felixthecat2786 Před měsícem +80

    I remember a professor (white) telling me how hard it was to get tenure. He said it was incredibly difficult and he spent over 30 years trying to get it. He is known for being an amazing teacher who was nominated for a prestigious award and beloved by his students. If he can't get tenure, then most people are also struggling to get tenure. A lot of professors understandably would believe it to be about race, but I don't necessarily think it comes down to that. I think these people are gatekeepers who are trying to keep people out because they don't want their power structure threatened. I can give you a specific person that comes to mind.
    I feel like there's so much bureaucracy and it's really a "good ol' boys club" where there is some real barriers to upward mobility for everyone. I don't think it has so much to do with race, gender, or orientation as it does how much you are in the "good graces" of "certain people" at top. These people want you to constantly flatter their ego and if you don't do that then you just stay at the bottom indefinitely.
    I remember meeting some of the "people at the top" and many of them were self absorbed, arrogant, self aggrandizing people. I remember a very high up "VIP" telling me that "I just got lucky" with a film project. Like this guy wasn't capable of humbling himself enough to say "good job" to a first year graduate student. How pathetic do you have to be in order to be unwilling to say good job to a lowly student. I feel like people like this have no business being around students or young adults at all.
    These people at the top are petty sociopaths and narcissists, sorry to say. Therein lies the problem.
    I know that I'm not a VIP Warren, but I would love to chat about the politics of Emerson some time (or just ANY college in general). The politics have grown feverishly supercilious for both faculty and students at these places. I do think wealth plays a huge role in developing these delusional mindsets. It used to be that working class people could go to college and better themselves. Now the cost of these institutions have become so expensive that it's also turning into a "good ol' boys club" when it comes to who even attends. I think our age group may have been the last to actually have access to these institutions as working class people. It's exacerbated by the fact that many of these corporations used to require a bachelor's degree to even get through their filtering system. I went to undergrad in order to get an entry level customer service job because the post 2008 world was a like some kind of career apocalypse. I couldn't even get a retail job without a bachelor's degree. Fast forward to 2016 and I came to the conclusion that a graduate degree was necessary just to get an office job. I feel like most of these college kids and even professors just have no understanding of this experience. The barriers that our age group faced were profound.
    A lot of the POC who used to protest were all the children of rich college professors.....Some of which were racist themselves. I could tell you stories about antisemitism among the black student body that I interacted with on a daily basis.
    Then we could also get into the fact that some of the Chinese students used to talk absolute shit about other students in Mandarin Chinese and purposefully exclude others.
    I think race is a problem at colleges in a sense that it has become a tribal situation where POC are pitting themselves against white people. There's so much anger and resentment that is being misdirected towards the people who are least likely to be responsible for the problems that POC face. I think those issues are more class and economic related than they are race related.
    I would really enjoy watching a video about our particular age group (mid to late 80s babies).

    • @ItApproaches
      @ItApproaches Před měsícem

      More likely there is only so many spots for tenure and those in power only would give tenure to those who fall in line with their narrative. Skin color and skill doesn't matter. If you are part of the bias system and they just so happen to give you tenure then they will. It's basically a corrupt lottery.

    • @SirFluffy100
      @SirFluffy100 Před měsícem

      TLDR?

    • @ItApproaches
      @ItApproaches Před měsícem +6

      And censorship strikes me again. Try all you want CZcams, you only make me stronger!

    • @brizziefritz4794
      @brizziefritz4794 Před měsícem +9

      I experienced something similar. Did undergrad Psychology and one of the assignments was an analysis of depression vs anxiety. In my paper I presented a model I had designed which helped explain their underlying causes and thereby the differences and similarities between the two. I got a low mark but did not get an explanation as to what was wrong with my work. I didn't necessarily wanted a higher grade but wanted to know what was wrong with the model.
      The higher up I went, the lower the grade I got, still without giving me any reason. Until I finally went to the head of the faculty who explained to me that the model might have been good, but it is not what undergrads do. They repeat what we tell them, they don't come up with new and better ways of thinking. Don't threaten the orthodoxy.

    • @MrVvulf
      @MrVvulf Před měsícem +2

      Getting tenure these days has nothing to do with performance in the classroom or the performance of students.
      It's all about publishing. If you publish tons of cited papers, or textbooks that bring revenue in the university, or BEST of all bring research dollars into the university - those are the pathway to tenure.

  • @FlatEarthMath
    @FlatEarthMath Před 29 dny +7

    After having listened to the frank pragmatism of your former professor, I can see why he didn't make tenure. He was skirting too close to conservative principles (roll up your sleeves and get to work) rather than building undergraduate activists, which is the goal of any liberal institution.

  • @vahidfarahani9784
    @vahidfarahani9784 Před měsícem +42

    love the format, two people just discussing something, no one trying to prove something respectfully.

    • @Nashvillain10SE
      @Nashvillain10SE Před měsícem +1

      Except that one is completely anonymous

    • @Smo1k
      @Smo1k Před měsícem +1

      @@Nashvillain10SE Says something about the dangers of insisting on institutions of education be excempt from unrelated politics.

    • @Nashvillain10SE
      @Nashvillain10SE Před měsícem

      @@Smo1k It says something about his lack of courage in particular.

  • @agapologia
    @agapologia Před měsícem +47

    I think a distinction between "racist" and "discriminatory" is necessary when asking if an institution is "racist".

    • @viracocha03
      @viracocha03 Před měsícem +8

      They are one in the same to the left.

    • @Princess_Feona
      @Princess_Feona Před měsícem +16

      @viracocha03
      I suspect that being discriminatory against white men is considered neither racist nor discriminatory to the left.

    • @Ichthyodactyl
      @Ichthyodactyl Před měsícem +7

      If the basis of the discrimination is race (or perceived race), it's racist. If that's not the basis of the discrimination, it's not racist. That's the only distinction that needs to be made but it is an important one.

    • @agapologia
      @agapologia Před měsícem +5

      @@Ichthyodactyl not all race-based discrimination is racist, just as not all sex-based discrimination is sexist, and not all class-based discrimination is classist. There are legitimate reasons to show preferential treatment even on (sometimes especially on) immutable characteristics.

    • @nicesprite9518
      @nicesprite9518 Před měsícem +7

      ​@@agapologia Could you share some examples that would not fit those definitions then? Because I really can't think of any myself.
      The simplest definition of racism is also literally 'discrimination or prejudice based on race', so this makes it hard to agree with your take. I'd say not all race-based *bias* would be racist, however.
      For example, assuming which type of personality someone may have on first sight based on their assumed race would be a racial bias. But treating them less well than someone who looks differently solely because of that would be a manifestation of racism, no matter to which extent or how legitimate one may think it is.

  • @constructenglish1
    @constructenglish1 Před měsícem +5

    Thank you for the work you do. You are a much needed voice

  • @auriolhays4287
    @auriolhays4287 Před měsícem +13

    In South Africa, there have been cases of students trying to get a pass...not doing the work...and using the excuse of their activism, and their affiliations with the "right" people to get by. The game is an old one

    • @wiseonwords
      @wiseonwords Před měsícem +1

      @auriolhays4287 - I taught English for several years at an American university in the Middle East. I had a few students who wrote essays about mohammed - the "perfect man" in their view - and then expected to get top marks because of the subject of their essay! Hilarious!

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 Před 29 dny

      The hard lesson is, ok. Don’t do it. We’ll give u an a.. but u’ll regret it later in life when the real world won’t bend and u realize your not smart.. u art capable of working.. it only hurts u in the end.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 Před 12 dny

      Literally striking in exam rooms because they can't pass on their own

  • @martinsanders1283
    @martinsanders1283 Před 22 dny +1

    Saw a quote the other day, “Do a degree in what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life, because they ain’t hiring in that field.”
    Sums up degrees to me.

  • @shepard59
    @shepard59 Před 28 dny +3

    I want to see a longer form interview. Good interview sir

  • @viracocha03
    @viracocha03 Před měsícem +13

    Would be interested if this prof had the stats on how many teachers (all races) want tenure and are qualified for it and how many of those who want tenure actually get it and what percentage of professors as a whole who are tenure are non white.

  • @GRRityI
    @GRRityI Před měsícem +3

    Look forward to the full conversation, IMO folk are definitely interested in long-form chats, look at the success of the JRE podcast. cheers for the content.

  • @DJ7223
    @DJ7223 Před měsícem +3

    I'd love to see the whole conversation.

  • @maxknuckles13
    @maxknuckles13 Před měsícem +27

    People have diluted terms like racism soo thin that hardly have a meaning anymore.. the air is racist, exercise is racist.. it's become a meme

    • @misob
      @misob Před měsícem +3

      yeap, if i flex my right butt cheek while passing gas, there's someone out there who'll call me a right wing extremist lol

    • @nahnotsomuch2292
      @nahnotsomuch2292 Před 29 dny +2

      Math is racist. That's another fun one.

    • @RaveyDavey
      @RaveyDavey Před 29 dny

      You can play a game with google by inserting a random topic into "________ is racist". I just put "board games are racist" and lo and behold....various articles on why board games are racist (also some are evil and capitalist too apparently).

    • @opinion3742
      @opinion3742 Před 29 dny

      It is actually people trying to examine the nuances of a historical atrocity and its echo down the generations.

    • @opinion3742
      @opinion3742 Před 29 dny +2

      @@misob There is someone out there who will call you an idiot for making a comment like that. And they would be right.

  • @thinkingcitizen
    @thinkingcitizen Před měsícem +20

    one of the biggest groups always excluded/misunderstood when it comes to Race on campus and adult life is Asian Americans (mainly Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Korean, Filipino) ... in my med school classes the Indian Americans are always the top scorers, in my clinical rotations at a top hospital the nurses were 30-40% Filipino American, in my undergrad physics and math courses the Asian Americans dominated,.... in general, they are much more science and engineering oriented even if they are liberal, whereas White Latin and Black liberals are much more race and sociology oriented (you see this in Europe too)... fascinating, but I think it has to do with how f**ed up education has been in America and the West for several decades OR maybe just a byproduct of slavery and colonialism causing downstream psychological issues among the masses.. the only people immune to it are relatively recent immigrants i.e. Asian Americans !
    EDIT: btw my parents immigrated from Eastern Europe and I can relate more with Asian Americans than ay other group in the US. I hate identity politics but I've come to terms with the fact that my immigrant and Slavic background have played a major role in my life in the States.

    • @chuckecheese5251
      @chuckecheese5251 Před měsícem +3

      Latinx 😂

    • @drugsorme2714
      @drugsorme2714 Před měsícem +3

      its because there are education requirements to immigrate.

    • @thinkingcitizen
      @thinkingcitizen Před měsícem

      @@drugsorme2714 would agree but when I was referring to Asian Americans, I'm talking about kids and grandkids of the immigrants from China, India, Japan, etc.... yes some of those people's parents/grandparents came here as doctors or scientists, but many came here as small business hopefuls 'think Gas stations and asian restaurants'

    • @BonusFiddle
      @BonusFiddle Před 29 dny

      My Parents from Latin America. I’m a woman in tech since 93. Dont care about race. However since then white savior teachers train students to think about race even when their immigrant parents don’t give a.f.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 Před 29 dny +1

      As an Asian. It has to do with cultural upbringing. It’s school or die.

  • @silentone11111111
    @silentone11111111 Před 29 dny +3

    Almost 100k subs. Keep it up 🎉

  • @VinceLyle2161
    @VinceLyle2161 Před měsícem +15

    I notice Warren using the construction "I feel like" quite a bit, like the phrase is interchangeable with "I think." It isn't. "I feel like" is weaker than "I think."
    Warren, you teach students critical thinking, to engage their minds and not just depend on their emotions. Even though this was an informal conversation with a former professor, you should be saying, "I think." Or at least downshift to "In my opinion."

    • @williamrockwell9705
      @williamrockwell9705 Před 27 dny

      We live in a totally feminized society now, feelings are all that matter.

  • @kjnoah
    @kjnoah Před měsícem +5

    2:40 Best question and a very reveling answer. Color, culture and coital choices have nothing to do with logic, science or our ability to provide a diverse perspective on technical topics or any topic that is not specifically focused on color, culture or coital choice. Statistical reality, even when measurable, does not equate to any intentional weighting in favor of one race. Conversely, making complaints based on racial representation and not diversity of thought, is definitely racist.

  • @jacksnack00
    @jacksnack00 Před měsícem +4

    I love your videos. Always look forward to being enlightened

  • @theodorearaujo971
    @theodorearaujo971 Před 29 dny +1

    If a person experiences being a victim in a place, they should leave that place.

  • @christhewritingjester3164

    It sucks how someone like you who started out with a genuine empathy of "oh no, I'm sorry you feel that way. What can I do?" is used by these brats so they can just get out of doing work.
    Not showing up to class or doing any of the work and expecting no ramifications is privilege.
    Great convo!

  • @centerfield6339
    @centerfield6339 Před měsícem +3

    Just listening to this fuy, I dont think it was his skin colour that's stopping his tenure. He's not thinking; he's feeling.

  • @bojnebojnebojne
    @bojnebojnebojne Před 5 dny +1

    There's no getting away from racism in a country where every single political topic or work domain is permeated by the obsession to talk about race.
    There is no country on earth more obsessed with talking about race than the United States.
    I never understood that obsession, to me, it's incredibly narrowminded and stupid.
    Nobody can help how they are born, neither can they do anything about it.
    To me people are just people and what they do and how they act defines what i think about them.
    There are only two kinds of people in the world, those who aim to do good and those who aim to do bad, that's all that matter.

  • @RM-dc6zd
    @RM-dc6zd Před měsícem +5

    asking people their various demographic identifiers when applying for jobs makes EVERYONE who doesn’t get the job feel like it must have been racism, sexism, etc. The black people, the hispanic people, the asians, even the whites. DEI is not well thought out.

  • @WinstonSmithGPT
    @WinstonSmithGPT Před 29 dny +7

    The most important issue here is that Americans should not be funding universities.

    • @opinion3742
      @opinion3742 Před 29 dny

      I believe you believe that. Which is why we have an education system.

    • @WinstonSmithGPT
      @WinstonSmithGPT Před 29 dny +2

      @@opinion3742 You failed.

    • @opinion3742
      @opinion3742 Před 29 dny

      @@WinstonSmithGPT lol

  • @dougmasters4561
    @dougmasters4561 Před měsícem +13

    Not only does how you think have nothing to do with skin color, neither does morality.

    • @golDroger88
      @golDroger88 Před měsícem

      Wrong. Blood is part of identity and your values have everything to do with identity.

    • @dougmasters4561
      @dougmasters4561 Před měsícem +3

      @golDroger88 ?
      No murdering innocent people is wrong, and nobody's skin color changes that.

    • @golDroger88
      @golDroger88 Před 29 dny

      @@dougmasters4561 What does murdering innocent people have to do with what we're talking about?
      Also murder is wrong only if you believe it is wrong. The reason why we generally believe it is wrong are two, the first is that we don't want to be murdered and we think order is required for prosperity, the second is that we believe in a religion that considers life sacred. But if you are dealing with someone that does not believe these things then he can have the legitimate belief that murder is not wrong, it's just an opinion.

    • @dougmasters4561
      @dougmasters4561 Před 29 dny +2

      @golDroger88 literally, there is a line in the video that said your skin color has nothing to do with how you think.
      I added it also has nothing to do with morality.
      The reply to me was disagreeing, so I used one act act as an example of how immorality has nothing to do with skin color.
      There is no way yhis is hard to follow or discern.
      Also murder is objectively wrong. This is not an opinion. It doesnt matter if someone else thinks its right, its objectively always wrong. Them thinking it right doesnt legitimize murder, it is simply the case that they are incorrect.

    • @golDroger88
      @golDroger88 Před 29 dny

      @@dougmasters4561 I have explained to why your race matters in my first post. Blood (race) is part of identity and identity (in the form of culture but not necessarily) determines what your values are.
      Now explain to me why murder is objectively wrong, I'm waiting.

  • @allans.243
    @allans.243 Před 20 dny +1

    Keep posting sir.

  • @fredrm6023
    @fredrm6023 Před měsícem +2

    This conversation was a SPIKE LEE JOINT

  • @heartsky
    @heartsky Před 29 dny +1

    Very valuable, more please!

  • @dukecity7688
    @dukecity7688 Před měsícem +1

    The one in power is the person who's telling people to shut up and sit down. She's got all the power and she's exercising it.

  • @fearmo1852
    @fearmo1852 Před 29 dny

    Great conversation!

  • @devinmillican2873
    @devinmillican2873 Před měsícem +11

    I think we make the mistake of operating on the basis that our institutions are meritocratic in terms of how they operate, but this isn't true. Almost every single working-class American can attest to the fact that most companies are plagued by politicians and sycophants who game the system (or "play the game") in order to get ahead. It's an unspoken truth in the American workforce, and we all know it. Even those companies and institutions who genuinely try to operate in a meritocratic fashion are often compromised by people in leadership positions who have bad judgment due to a litany of reasons.
    If I had to put a number on it, I would say that America is maybe 20% meritocratic, and that's me being charitable. It's not the way it's supposed to be, but how many business owners do you think are genuinely committed to upholding American values in their business practices?

    • @Smo1k
      @Smo1k Před měsícem +1

      I wouldn't say that rewarding on the basis of merit is especially American, but that's a minor quip...
      There's two principles at work which are completely unrelated to merit: The first is Return of the Prodigal Son, which means that likable fuck-ups get preferential treatment, because their story sticks in our memory while the stable and productive worker is likely forgotten 'cos she's "just there". The other is the Chickling effect, which is that the most visible, open beak gets fed more, so that those who keep themselves smack in the face of management will get more bennies, regardless of whether they actually get anything done.

    • @makokx7063
      @makokx7063 Před 29 dny +1

      I'd say that applies to most if not all societies, not just America. It's natural to show favor to people you like and be harsher on people you dislike, even if you are aware of your own biases and try to keep them out of your decision making.
      However if only 20% of people are being properly judged I'd think society would collapse.

    • @williamrockwell9705
      @williamrockwell9705 Před 27 dny +1

      Sure, when you pick and choose what counts as merit you will never find that it is what is driving decisions.

    • @Smo1k
      @Smo1k Před 27 dny

      @@williamrockwell9705 The literal meaning of "merit" is Seaworthy. Think "You may talk a big ship, but does it sail?"
      Our day and time: Does it/he/she get shit done? Is money made? Do kids learn how to multiply?

  • @ItApproaches
    @ItApproaches Před měsícem +5

    Things are only "racist" if you choose to see it that way. If you choose to make it about skin color, that's YOU making it about skin color lol. Also it's disheartening that "professors" don't realize that racism doesn't exist. Human is the race, African, Russian, Asian so on are nationalities. Humans have been using the wrong word for a long time but they don' want to correct themselves. Hating Africans would be Nationist or Nationism, but that doesn't roll off the tongue. In order for someone to be racist, you would have to hate someone cause they are a human, but that would be hypocritical.

    • @makokx7063
      @makokx7063 Před 29 dny

      It's true. As a white person when a black person bumps into me on the street I think "asshole". I'd bet my bottom dollar that they think "racist" though.

  • @CaptZenPetabyte
    @CaptZenPetabyte Před 27 dny

    Youre a Master of Socratic questioning ... wel done sir, well done.

  • @evalramman7502
    @evalramman7502 Před měsícem +4

    I liked that older professor.

  • @Ephisus
    @Ephisus Před 24 dny

    "You have a strong point and it means nothing", this is not the language of a thinking person.

  • @ScarlettRose7221
    @ScarlettRose7221 Před 27 dny

    I’m so sick of this racism/victim mentality. I have great respect for you, Warren. But I’m old and out of patience.

  • @miketemple7686
    @miketemple7686 Před 26 dny

    When the student becomes the teacher.

  • @HamHamEggsandHam
    @HamHamEggsandHam Před měsícem +2

    Would you allow yourself to be treated by a black doctor ? I won't. I'll do whatever is necessary to avoid it.

    • @PeregrinTintenfish
      @PeregrinTintenfish Před měsícem

      Why?

    • @janesmith8050
      @janesmith8050 Před 29 dny +1

      This is the definition of a racist comment.

    • @williamrockwell9705
      @williamrockwell9705 Před 27 dny

      @@PeregrinTintenfish I will answer. It is because we live in a time where an anti-White miasma permeates all sectors of society, no one in their right mind would think that a doctor's decision making would not be influenced by said miasma. Furthermore because the standards are lowered for them.

  • @Gunnberg85
    @Gunnberg85 Před měsícem +3

    Just started the video. It still gives me pause when I hear some combination of words essentially saying, "Even though I was black, I was still accused of racism." As if to imply that one who is black simply cannot be racist, and that the notion that they were is ridiculous.
    I've now automatically laid out in my mind how this person views the world and am waiting to see how close I get through this interview. Here goes...

    • @roobs4245
      @roobs4245 Před měsícem +1

      Do you think it is intellectually honest to not only start with a preconceived notion based on little information and no context -- and then knowingly watch just to prove your confirmation bias?

    • @Gunnberg85
      @Gunnberg85 Před měsícem

      @@roobs4245 More like intellectual shorthand.

  • @willhartmann1356
    @willhartmann1356 Před 29 dny

    Warren, please make the full conversation available.

  • @mr2981
    @mr2981 Před měsícem +1

    That was great

  • @claudeyaz
    @claudeyaz Před 28 dny +1

    Churchill is interesting because he was completely blackballed and removed, but honestly I find the Irish guy that was his right hand man much more interesting, what was his name something Bracken?

    • @claudeyaz
      @claudeyaz Před 28 dny

      And after so he was ended up the prime minister😊...after being ousted

  • @OldVetNerdSage
    @OldVetNerdSage Před měsícem +30

    Stoicism is the way

    • @CrummyVCR
      @CrummyVCR Před měsícem +9

      NOT modern stoicism though. That is bordering on masochistic nihilism.
      It's very okay to feel, to process, to be affected by, etc. But do so with TEMPERAMENT and some grace.

    • @OldVetNerdSage
      @OldVetNerdSage Před 29 dny +1

      @@CrummyVCR 100%! I just picked up a copy of Meditations and am looking forward to it.

  • @GameCookerUSRocks
    @GameCookerUSRocks Před 29 dny

    Fear should be a good reason not to go to work too. And still get paid.

  • @williamrockwell9705
    @williamrockwell9705 Před 27 dny

    Just imagine what would be going on if we still had a nation.

  • @willmontgomery6221
    @willmontgomery6221 Před měsícem +16

    Love the video but you really need to work on your audio...the interviews sound like they are recorded in a bathtub. Get some close mics like the Rode system and you'll be all set.

    • @SecretScholars
      @SecretScholars  Před měsícem +13

      Valid point. I’m working on it. We recorded this last night and I just had to work with what I had

    • @mr2981
      @mr2981 Před měsícem +13

      @@SecretScholars I'd rather see this than not see it because it wasn't 'perfect'.

    • @mc1993
      @mc1993 Před měsícem

      @@SecretScholars Free simple fix, if you don't own video editing software that has it like Premiere Pro. Adobe Podcast AI enhance has a webpage you can upload your audio track and it will make it sound great, just download replace the original audio track, render and done. It removes everything, and makes you sound top quality.

    • @mc1993
      @mc1993 Před měsícem +2

      @@SecretScholars Why is my simple audio fix advice being hidden? CZcams is too much.

    • @viracocha03
      @viracocha03 Před měsícem +5

      @@mc1993 YT is getting horrid for hiding/removing comments. I have had so many "go missing" in the past month or so on all different creator's pages and almost every one of them was polite/helpful or benign.

  • @SN-jh3bb
    @SN-jh3bb Před 27 dny

    Without understanding what is psychopathy one cannot understand what is those who expound CRT

  • @dtchouros
    @dtchouros Před 27 dny

    The last teacher literally only hurts the student (and the people that have to work with him later) when there is a legitimate reason to fail him.

  • @robp2728
    @robp2728 Před 23 dny

    “I made several racist complaints…”
    “I’m super light skinded…”
    Is this the language skill level of a tenured professor? Come on…

  • @traypaquette7887
    @traypaquette7887 Před 22 dny

    I went to emerson in the 90s and the aughts. I had MANY black professors and half of the classes were critical theory and devoted to diversity, though not at all about diversity of opinion.

  • @tiredman4540
    @tiredman4540 Před 29 dny

    Wish I could see him, your professor sounds like a jolly fellow.

  • @WILPOLLOCK
    @WILPOLLOCK Před 24 dny

    TIL Emerson College had NO tenured black professors even in 2018.
    I grew up in Boston (51 now) and I always viewed Emerson as on Uber liberal school. What a BS well done marketing scam. 😳

  • @beatricenilsson4530
    @beatricenilsson4530 Před měsícem +1

    I found it very interesting that the professor says he is stoic and then continue to proclaim his "feels" for the supposed institutional racism at the college. Is that not a complete 180 on the stoic claims? Maybe I got what he ment wrong though. I will lean to give him a pass because it was a somewhat unclear conversation on where he actually stood in the topic of racism against him.

  • @swanofnutella4734
    @swanofnutella4734 Před 29 dny +1

    We're so stupid, we thing WE won the cold war. XD

    • @reyray7184
      @reyray7184 Před 25 dny

      We didn't even win WWII or we wouldn't be having the same kinds of problems today that they were having back then.

  • @WILPOLLOCK
    @WILPOLLOCK Před 24 dny

    2:34 - what I hear him saying RE: birds of a feather
    It’s similar to what Carlin said: you don’t need a conspiracy when interests align.
    I.e. people wanna be around the people like them or at least who think like them. There’s some validity here.
    As ever, great stuff! Also, yes(!) sit down with Bret Weinstein. Please. That’d be awesome

  • @JamieZero7
    @JamieZero7 Před 27 dny

    Nice man.

  • @Zak6959
    @Zak6959 Před měsícem +1

    I seen a meme the other day where they are going to run out of things to call racist in about six months.

    • @williamrockwell9705
      @williamrockwell9705 Před 27 dny

      You people are a huge problem, THEY ARE RAMPING UP TO GENOCIDE US and all you can do is pretend it is just going to go away.

  • @larrydugan1441
    @larrydugan1441 Před 28 dny

    A degree was a means of saying look at me I have achieved something difficult.
    If there are no standards and the degree is nonsense like so many are, it is less than worthless.
    Why less than worthless?
    It creates an expectation in the graduate that has no merit and can only lead to despair.
    Catering to minorities and incorporating their claims of victim hood into faux achievement is highly destructive.
    Good luck world.

  • @RhumpleOriginal
    @RhumpleOriginal Před 29 dny

    " feelings are irrelevant because I dont feel like spending time working through them "
    * Insert that cilp of the guy screaming 'YES YES! THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. THATS WHY HES THE GOAT' *

  • @ChrisRubeo
    @ChrisRubeo Před měsícem

    Is this just a clip of your podcast?

  • @stirlingmoss4621
    @stirlingmoss4621 Před měsícem

    Selection for any post of job must be provably Objective and nothing to do with subjectivity.

  • @briandobbin3726
    @briandobbin3726 Před 29 dny

    wow - this discussion was a window for me inside modern academia (my experience was 40 years ago) all I can say is what kind of environment is this? So far away

  • @sweetbloom735
    @sweetbloom735 Před 23 dny

    Could you discuss financing/donations to the universities and whether that influences the administration's directives? I do understand if this topic is off-limits due to job loss.

  • @TheTomryan123
    @TheTomryan123 Před 24 dny

    Pretty sure that professor knows nothing about statistics.

  • @milo8425
    @milo8425 Před 28 dny

    College English professor = Derrida indoctrination officer.

  • @claudeyaz
    @claudeyaz Před 28 dny

    How many teachers were getting tenure at in 2016 2020?
    I thought college is cut down on doing that

  • @EarlHayward
    @EarlHayward Před 27 dny

    He said the liberal professors and management are experimentalists, but I would argue they are instrumentalists… I then recognized that they are virtually synonymous terms and I would be arguing a distinction without a difference; a type of logical fallacy… It then made me realize that most of the social justice hysteria is over the semantics and pragmatics of words while ignoring the reality of the consequences… For instance, both sides are fighting over what is ultimately for or against the conflation of gender and sex (yet, even Scalia opined decades ago that gender is no longer synonymous with sex), but the liberals pull the conservatives into the weeds… Point is, if both sides, but mostly the left, stopped fighting over the semantics and pragmatics, the real issues could be addressed; like no matter what you call people, on average, men are stronger than women, undocumented immigrants have broken the law, and some people will never accept the reality of the authority of government…

  • @jacobgray676
    @jacobgray676 Před měsícem

    Any update on a daily wire show?

  • @willie_the_monkey_king

    This was an interesting video however your audio needs to be clear. Had to listen to the video twice to fully understand you and the other professor.

  • @BakaSleeper
    @BakaSleeper Před 29 dny +1

    denying that racisim exist is racist

    • @williamrockwell9705
      @williamrockwell9705 Před 27 dny

      There is no such thing as racism, NO ONE HAS TO EXIST SOLEY TO SERVE BLAKS! We have a right to like and dislike who we choose!

  • @masterphillips
    @masterphillips Před 29 dny

    If Emerson is racist, why are we footing the bill for forgiving the student loans for that institution?
    If Emerson is racist, why are we loaning money to their students at all?
    Just a guess, but if the money started drying up, the demand for racism would too.

  • @Nashvillain10SE
    @Nashvillain10SE Před měsícem +5

    DEI = Didn't Earn It

  • @maxknuckles13
    @maxknuckles13 Před měsícem

    I'm glad I didn't take the university route.. only went to UMass for the frat parties, when I was in high-school lol

  • @Dukkha-Bhavana
    @Dukkha-Bhavana Před měsícem

    !!!! When was this recorded? I might've guessed that your previous employers saw this before you released it...before they fired you.
    [EDIT: but they took back the computer & data, so maybe not.]

  • @susanjacquier5358
    @susanjacquier5358 Před měsícem

    Interesting that in Australia, 'tenured' is not part of the University structure. Apparently, we use contracts of varying time frames. Can anyone here please add their experience in regards to that?

    • @makokx7063
      @makokx7063 Před 29 dny +1

      I don't have any experience but the tenure system originally came about so that universities couldn't punish faculty (fire them) for expressing their opinions. A bit of a double-edged sword though.

  • @tanyam3090
    @tanyam3090 Před měsícem +3

    Please don’t forget to like Warrens videos! And of course subscribe. Love to see his conversations.

  • @out_spocken
    @out_spocken Před měsícem +1

    It's interesting that your professor never explained why it was he wasn't offered tenure. Surely he should have been able to explain what it was that stopped him getting it...instead defaulting to his skin colour - an argument many people make to cover up other issues they don't wish to accept are faults of themselves.
    Bit ironic. Especially when he says he isn't inherently 'black'.

  • @illhaveanother8173
    @illhaveanother8173 Před 26 dny

    Isn't tenure a dying concept anyway? It appears basically in no other careers and it's not clear what it actually add to education either.

  • @Snikit
    @Snikit Před měsícem +4

    DEI = Didn’t Earn it. ✨✅✨

  • @AbzScotland
    @AbzScotland Před měsícem

  • @_Alfa_Channel
    @_Alfa_Channel Před měsícem

    Hagakure on the Back Shelf! Hidden by Nothing! Boss!

  • @XeroWon
    @XeroWon Před 29 dny

    Never quite understand the dismissal of “trades workers” as potential powerful or influential people. Society itself would cease to function without them; pretty sure college doesn’t produce power, food, or anything these days.

  • @its2sum
    @its2sum Před měsícem

    ♠️✌🏽

  • @nancybaumgartner6774
    @nancybaumgartner6774 Před měsícem

    In the end , it’s the tradesmen we really need in society , not another windbag academic .
    Society exists because of tradesmen, not whiny , spoiled academics .

  • @user-ub1dn9eo4p
    @user-ub1dn9eo4p Před 26 dny

    Was that it?

  • @MegaBaellchen
    @MegaBaellchen Před měsícem +6

    Have you thought of the idea that there are no actual races? All the groups can still successfully mate and spawn stable offspring. Its just skin color, hair color, slight differences in shape and body chemistry. So technically those differences are not big enough to speak of races. There are differences in physiology and skin color but yet the biggest differences are the enzymatic compositions of asians compared to the rest. Why not call it by what it is, if you have to speak aout a specific group of people. What is so bad about african americans, arabs, whites, nordic, latino, like why do we even strive to stay in the euphemism treadmill and escape towards the awful idea of "other people"? So far most place ive been to are the same anyway, literally.

    • @HelloTygr
      @HelloTygr Před měsícem +1

      That’s why I never talk about “race”. It’s technically the same thing colloquially, but I use “ethnicities”

    • @JimC
      @JimC Před měsícem +1

      "So technically those differences are not big enough to speak of races."
      From that it seems you have a definition of race in mind where the differences *are* big enough. Is that correct? If so, what is that definition and who developed it?

    • @MegaBaellchen
      @MegaBaellchen Před měsícem +1

      @@JimC Yea like, take a labrador and a chihuahua for instance, the differences are so big, they cant even properly mate. The genetic differences are just not big enough in humans because our gene pool constantly gets mixed. I was basing my thoughts on the German wikipedia page about "Rassenkunde" which sadly links to "race (human categorization)" in the english wikipedia. Maybe the direct translation will do, its more like a historical context de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Rassentheorie?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

  • @npcimknot958
    @npcimknot958 Před 29 dny

    3:44 whats interesting tho.. is the problem when u only point at problems offer 0 solutions / compromises etc.. when things can’t be critiqued no matter how much u dislike it.. that’s a bad sign..
    People had to point out, putting people in ovens is.. bad…. Doing experiments on people is bad.. and those who did t agree went to war.. but those in those countires were the vast majority agreed were persecuted..

  • @ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq
    @ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq Před měsícem

    How you think has everything to do with skin color when you think that skin color makes people inferior the way Charles Murray does.

  • @lloydgush
    @lloydgush Před měsícem

    Dude's a stoic in economics among marxists?
    Typical.