This was a great game. Stephen deserves the point for unique best theme deck for sure. Though a pity point for Jon wouldn't be a travesty for having the guts to cast an Epic spell that early in the game.
Here's how big Kalonian Hydra actually got. It had 4 +1/+1 counters, then the trigger would have put 4 more, but instead putting 16 counters, making it a 20/20 creature. Solidarity of Heroes would have put 20 +1/+1 counters, but instead 80 are put, so in the end Wes had a 100/100 Kalonian Hydra.
Save the playlist on your profile. They won't pop up in your feed but it's not like you watch this on a whim so whenever you have time you can check it.
+Tyler Ostrowski Yep, same here. The nephilim would be really fun to see, just not the one that gets bigger and then gets trample, he's the only boring nephilim.
Really though, everyone knows that Suarez rocked season 1. His Norin deck was one of the funnest decks i've ever seen, that Keranos finish was god like and his play, in my opinion, has been the best and most consistent.
+Ye Won K. Suarez is my favorite out of the group. Followed by Wes, I feel bad that they pick on him so often. But his Hydra Tribal resembles mine in the fact that I draw most of my deck a majority of the games it is played.
If Lord of Extinction had trample he could assign damage equal to Progenitus' toughness and the rest would trample over to Wes. The damage assigned to Progenitus would just be prevented.
+Thorsten Böhme The only thing I could think is that since Stephen was involved in combat, priority passes to him first, since he Maze of Ith'd, che prevented the combat damage and so even IF Progenitus had blocked, it wouldn't be the one saving Wes from the damage, effectively forcing a save for the points? Even that sounds wonky
I love your commander versus series, it is always enjoyable to watch you all play. I'm happy to see how this turns out. As a suggestion... I'd love to see more commander versus with Planeswalkers!
Cromat is an Illusion according to Gatherer. I guess Delusions of Grandeur wanted even grander delusions and became a creature. Also, huzzah for a Progenitus - Hydra Tribal deck!
This video was really good guys. The volume was a bit low but appart from that, you all looked like you were there just to have fun. Really enjoyable to watch !
Epic point has to go to the huevos grandes on Suarez for firing off Enduring Ideal that early. Props to him for making the fun play for the audience. I also loved the Mirror Entity + token creator synergy.
+tiny turtle sadly that's not how protection from everything works, which is why it dies to wrath effects which don't target it or do damage, including deed
@ 1:13:51 when Justin deals 3 damage to Wes' Managorger Hydra with his Omnath trigger, he would not have killed it because Wes forgot to put a +1/+1 counter on the Hydra from casting Polukranos.
Loved this game. Would be killer to see a guild wheel game. Each player builds 2 decks themed from Ravnica with Ravnica generals, and the Director creates the remaining two guilds as dud decks. Each player can't interact with eachother when building so they only know the decks they built - 2 week series so you'll cover 8 of 10 decks. Would be fun and let's be honest, Ravnica generals are crazy good :)
Whether this gets seen or not, I just wanna say what you guys do is awesome and if the opportunity ever arose I would definitely wanna play edh with you guys! Keep up the great work!
i agree on nephilim generals for a video! Justin with Yore-Tiller (recursion shenanigans) Witch-Maw for Stephen Green (fatties counters deck) Ink-Treader for Wess (instants and sorceries and tricks and cryptic command) and for Jon Suarez, Dune-Brood (tokens, lots and lots of tokens)
1:07:45 No, the copies of Enduring Ideal do not count as spells being cast. They are copies of the spell being put on the stack, but he isn't casting them. This is why Enduring Ideal gets around Dovescape.
A "Planechase" game using only the Lorywn and Shadowmoor plane cards, everyone running a deck with "2 commanders" The Lorywn Legendary and its Shadowmoor version. They act as a transformation card, changing depending on the plane. So Ashling would be a Black/Red deck, Sygg would be Esper, Wort would be Jund, Rhys would be Abzan.
I think it would be interesting to see all of you play the same commander. It would let the viewers see the differences between all of your deckbuilding decisions and play decisions when put in a similar situation.
Cromat is creature type Illusion, if no one has answered for them. It does look like a weird, giant, carnivorous caterpillar though, with wings and longer legs at the bottom. Stephen should've told them, "Cromat me, bro."
+WallsEryx I've been thinking of trying Reaper King for five colour artifacts. Had a blast with Karn Colourless so I thought about trying something else artifact based and theres so many useful artifact support cards if you go five colour.
As a big fan of this current series I would really love to see some tribal out of you guys. But not the usual tribal like goblins that you see everyday. I'm talking Snakes, Moonfolk, Merfolk and changelings or such things. (I know Wes will like the shapeshifters)
I would love to see a lorywn themed week using the lorywn versus their shadow moor selves like one using ashling the pilgrim and someone else using ashling the extinguisher
You guys got the Doubling Season/Primal Vigor triggers wrong. It would go to double, putting four counters on it. Then Primal Vigor doubles that, making it eight counters placed on it. Then Doubling Season doubles THAT, making sixteen counters.
+ZakanaHachihaCBC very well. I ask here and now that Stephen Green's Name be in the Color Green for at least one week. I for one will ask what no one else did. Also to note, Green is the color I request! Not yellow-green, cerulean, aqua, light green, dark green, turquoise, or any other color that spawns because of mixing in green.... Just plain Normal Green.
After oath it would be fun to see them have decks for these commanders: jori en, kozilek, linvala, and kalitas, traitor of ghet. I know it would be hard but interesting to see these guys pull it off
you guys should each get an Oath Of The Gatewatch prerelease pack, build sealed decks and play Two-Headed Giant for a multiplayer video. that'd be fun.
Lastly yes in fact cromat is now under the illustrious creature type of illusions, so he most be the imperfect vision what people think the ultimate creature would be, as he does everything a player would want including win.
I'd love to see Kamigawa based decks at some point go head to head. Especially if one plays Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker mono black! The rest is up to them...
I think John could've had a better shot if he had ordered his searches better. He could've gotten Solitary Confinement, then Dovescape, then (did he have this in his deck?) Night of Souls' Betrayal and locked everyone out of casting anything. Then the rest of his enchantments could've slowly gotten him the win. I love epic spells, and I've played Enduring Ideal before in a Commander deck, but it's all about the ordering. Still, great game, and way to go Stephen! Love walls, nice to see them kick butt.
guys in the new set spirit and the lore behind it these themes should be a thing. An Ally deck, a super friends deck, an eldrazi deck and an inisant bystanders deck "Cause you know there had to be a few"
Deck idea for Jon. Jon, you seem to like weird stuff. A friend of mine came up with this and I thought it was awesome. Arjun, the Shifting Flame as General. Mindmoil, Grip of Chaos, Knowledge Pool, Hive Mind, Eye of the Storm, possibly Confusion in the Ranks and Scrambleverse. And then targeted burn and card draw. Maybe Reminisces just to make sure it never ends.
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This was a great game. Stephen deserves the point for unique best theme deck for sure. Though a pity point for Jon wouldn't be a travesty for having the guts to cast an Epic spell that early in the game.
Here's how big Kalonian Hydra actually got. It had 4 +1/+1 counters, then the trigger would have put 4 more, but instead putting 16 counters, making it a 20/20 creature. Solidarity of Heroes would have put 20 +1/+1 counters, but instead 80 are put, so in the end Wes had a 100/100 Kalonian Hydra.
Biggest creature in magic history?
Overall volume is a bit low. :\
Yea, I had my volume at max and almost got a heart attack when the first ad played. Please fix the volume.
same.
+PrinnyDood Lol ich seh einen Prinny bei nem Commander Video ^_^ Grüße
If I could sub to just Commander vrs instead of star city games I would
Save the playlist on your profile. They won't pop up in your feed but it's not like you watch this on a whim so whenever you have time you can check it.
Glad to see you guys back and I want to see the nephilim as your generals ( yes I know they are not legendary but should be fun)
+Tyler Ostrowski I am actually ok with this. I would approve if they worked the Nephilim in.
+Tyler Ostrowski Yep, same here. The nephilim would be really fun to see, just not the one that gets bigger and then gets trample, he's the only boring nephilim.
Also, they should build the decks around the Nephilim abilities.
+Tyler Ostrowski Agreed, that would be really fun.
There should be 4 legends we have all kinds of legends except 4c
Really though, everyone knows that Suarez rocked season 1. His Norin deck was one of the funnest decks i've ever seen, that Keranos finish was god like and his play, in my opinion, has been the best and most consistent.
+Ye Won K. Suarez is my favorite out of the group. Followed by Wes, I feel bad that they pick on him so often. But his Hydra Tribal resembles mine in the fact that I draw most of my deck a majority of the games it is played.
+Ye Won K. A lot of people who know nothing but FNM/kitchen table don't like competitive players, therefore Suarez gets shafted. C'est la vie.
To me, Wes Wise was the season one winner
+alekk miennert Justin Parnell may fancy himself season one champion, but Wes will always be the champion in out hearts.
That Phage finish was epic.
Atogatog, my precious. So glad to see another game with him in.
excited to see what this season brings. this satisfies my commander addiction until the end of the week
God bless commander versus is back. It's great to see these guys again.
Can't believe Wes had a Progenitus into play and didn't attacked every turn with it... just unexpected.
jace is like a wheelbarrow and sylvan library is like a shovel I just died there
So excited for the new season
Words cannot express the joy in seeing this video up today! Cheers to the new season!
12:10 "Maybe one day we'll be able to have a card viewer on the side of the screen" 😂😂
Neither Lord of Extinction has trample, nor does Rubblehulk give trample. I don't get how Steven saved Wes. Progenitus blocks it just fine
I didn't get this either. Could someone please explain?
I think they made a mistake. Progenitus blocked it and there was no visible way for it to gain trample when Stephen Maze of Ithed it.
Even if it has trample, lord of extinction can't kill progenitus so it would never deal excess combat damage to Wes
If Lord of Extinction had trample he could assign damage equal to Progenitus' toughness and the rest would trample over to Wes. The damage assigned to Progenitus would just be prevented.
+Thorsten Böhme The only thing I could think is that since Stephen was involved in combat, priority passes to him first, since he Maze of Ith'd, che prevented the combat damage and so even IF Progenitus had blocked, it wouldn't be the one saving Wes from the damage, effectively forcing a save for the points?
Even that sounds wonky
I just started the video and I'm beyond thrilled to have you guys back. GO TEAM GREENE
I love your commander versus series, it is always enjoyable to watch you all play. I'm happy to see how this turns out. As a suggestion... I'd love to see more commander versus with Planeswalkers!
Cromat is an Illusion according to Gatherer. I guess Delusions of Grandeur wanted even grander delusions and became a creature.
Also, huzzah for a Progenitus - Hydra Tribal deck!
Great game! I have a 5-color deck with Cromat as my Commander, so this video did me proud!
the Commander Revolution keeps marching on!
Props to Stephen on that bloodstained mire fetch.
This video was really good guys. The volume was a bit low but appart from that, you all looked like you were there just to have fun.
Really enjoyable to watch !
as a MTG beginner, these videos help me a lot. thank you
Steven Green, in the red seat? Red Green? I loved that show!
Yes!! Thank you Justin for winning! I can continue watching.
New intro is pretty sweet. Props to the graphic designer behind that one.
Epic point has to go to the huevos grandes on Suarez for firing off Enduring Ideal that early. Props to him for making the fun play for the audience. I also loved the Mirror Entity + token creator synergy.
Yay! Such a wonderful opener to a no doubt amazing series ^_^
Great to see this series back, looking forward to all that is to come.
You are back for season 2!!! Hooray!!!!!
Just to note: pernicious deed could have killed progenitus if activated for 10 or more. it doesn't target ;)
+0ld1eye and the managorger wasn't a 3/3
+Aaron Lindsey among other things
progenitus has protection from everything not shroud. nothing can affect it
+tiny turtle sadly that's not how protection from everything works, which is why it dies to wrath effects which don't target it or do damage, including deed
+Sam Rooney but progenitus has protection frm wraths
I love five color commander decks. It gives you so many options to work with.
low volume, but I'm so excited for the return of this series
LOUDER! Please :-P
And Wes gets my vote for coolest deck. Hydra Tribals... I never would've thought of that :D
@ 1:13:51 when Justin deals 3 damage to Wes' Managorger Hydra with his Omnath trigger, he would not have killed it because Wes forgot to put a +1/+1 counter on the Hydra from casting Polukranos.
You are welcome Justin! My vote gave you the win.
Loved this game.
Would be killer to see a guild wheel game. Each player builds 2 decks themed from Ravnica with Ravnica generals, and the Director creates the remaining two guilds as dud decks. Each player can't interact with eachother when building so they only know the decks they built - 2 week series so you'll cover 8 of 10 decks.
Would be fun and let's be honest, Ravnica generals are crazy good :)
Cromat looks like something designed for Godzilla to fight!
Audio is a bit low guys. Turn it up!
Tribal walls for the win man. Steven wins in my book for just running Obelisk of Alara.
I would love it if you guys played a deck with the 4 new OATHS and a lot of planeswalkers! Thanks for the videos!
Whether this gets seen or not, I just wanna say what you guys do is awesome and if the opportunity ever arose I would definitely wanna play edh with you guys! Keep up the great work!
Great video lads, can't wait for the season!
i agree on nephilim generals for a video!
Justin with Yore-Tiller (recursion shenanigans)
Witch-Maw for Stephen Green (fatties counters deck)
Ink-Treader for Wess (instants and sorceries and tricks and cryptic command)
and for Jon Suarez, Dune-Brood (tokens, lots and lots of tokens)
1:07:45 No, the copies of Enduring Ideal do not count as spells being cast. They are copies of the spell being put on the stack, but he isn't casting them. This is why Enduring Ideal gets around Dovescape.
awesome game!!!! glad you guys are back
Great game!!! Excited for the new season
Invasion Block was a sweet format! I played Black/Blue control with Warped Devotion + Recoil / Rushing River and Nightscape Familiar. :)
Wes coming in clutch on that vote!
this is class, great vid guys!
I got the Florida joke rip gore
Can you imagine if someone was running Vulturous Zombie with all the discarding Wes was doing from huge hand sizes?
A "Planechase" game using only the Lorywn and Shadowmoor plane cards, everyone running a deck with "2 commanders" The Lorywn Legendary and its Shadowmoor version. They act as a transformation card, changing depending on the plane. So Ashling would be a Black/Red deck, Sygg would be Esper, Wort would be Jund, Rhys would be Abzan.
1:26:46 Bloodrush Rublehulk doesnt give trample , how would Wess have died if he blocked with Progenitus ??
So stephen didnt save save him.
So pumped for season 2!
I think it would be interesting to see all of you play the same commander. It would let the viewers see the differences between all of your deckbuilding decisions and play decisions when put in a similar situation.
John and Stephen switching spots threw me for a loop. xD
Cromat is creature type Illusion, if no one has answered for them. It does look like a weird, giant, carnivorous caterpillar though, with wings and longer legs at the bottom. Stephen should've told them, "Cromat me, bro."
Darn, a few weeks later and we could have gotten Tazri!
Per Gatherer, Cromat is a Legendary Creature - Illusion.
That might explain why its head does not seem to be attached to it's body.
I like these older videos but man it's impossible to hear them without headphones
What, no Reaper King?
+Ben they already did Child of Alara
+WallsEryx I've been thinking of trying Reaper King for five colour artifacts.
Had a blast with Karn Colourless so I thought about trying something else artifact based and theres so many useful artifact support cards if you go five colour.
Thank u for playing atogatog tribal!!!
As a big fan of this current series I would really love to see some tribal out of you guys. But not the usual tribal like goblins that you see everyday. I'm talking Snakes, Moonfolk, Merfolk and changelings or such things. (I know Wes will like the shapeshifters)
Wes, the hydra is for every spell cast, not just your opponent's!
I would love to see a lorywn themed week using the lorywn versus their shadow moor selves like one using ashling the pilgrim and someone else using ashling the extinguisher
Justin forgot 2 omnath triggers when he evoked the spitebellows to kill his slithermuse, since they both do die from that.
You're back! :D
I feel like that zebra playmat is the season 2 winner
Can I just say that Omnath looks like the Kool - Aid man.
take a shot every time that jon says he cant cast spells
That new intro is fire, fam.
I would love to see a game where all of the commanders are the Theros block gods. Kruphix v Mogis v Iroas v Erebos, or something like that.
Oooo idea for a theme: everyone uses a graveyard themed deck (bonus points for anyone using Haakon Stromgald Scourge?)
DAmmit! Why didn't I vote?! I wanted Suarez to win, wah! Thanks for the videos guys they are friggen awesome!
Wes played my deck I suggested back on ep one of season one yay
Nice Tribal Hydras! I'm trying to make a deck with every hydra in it
Is there anyway to increase the volume on your videos? Its really quite in game.
You guys got the Doubling Season/Primal Vigor triggers wrong. It would go to double, putting four counters on it. Then Primal Vigor doubles that, making it eight counters placed on it. Then Doubling Season doubles THAT, making sixteen counters.
Why is Steven still not green it's so ughghghg
People asked for him to not be yellow.
+ZakanaHachihaCBC very well. I ask here and now that Stephen Green's Name be in the Color Green for at least one week. I for one will ask what no one else did. Also to note, Green is the color I request! Not yellow-green, cerulean, aqua, light green, dark green, turquoise, or any other color that spawns because of mixing in green.... Just plain Normal Green.
Old fashioned family meals lmao 😂
After oath it would be fun to see them have decks for these commanders: jori en, kozilek, linvala, and kalitas, traitor of ghet. I know it would be hard but interesting to see these guys pull it off
you guys should each get an Oath Of The Gatewatch prerelease pack, build sealed decks and play Two-Headed Giant for a multiplayer video. that'd be fun.
Lastly yes in fact cromat is now under the illustrious creature type of illusions, so he most be the imperfect vision what people think the ultimate creature would be, as he does everything a player would want including win.
I'd love to see Kamigawa based decks at some point go head to head. Especially if one plays Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker mono black! The rest is up to them...
I played tribal Hydras!! With Animar though. Such VALUE
I think John could've had a better shot if he had ordered his searches better. He could've gotten Solitary Confinement, then Dovescape, then (did he have this in his deck?) Night of Souls' Betrayal and locked everyone out of casting anything. Then the rest of his enchantments could've slowly gotten him the win. I love epic spells, and I've played Enduring Ideal before in a Commander deck, but it's all about the ordering. Still, great game, and way to go Stephen! Love walls, nice to see them kick butt.
I would love to see you guys play the Commander 2015 Commanders again but this time after having modified the crap out of the decks.
Like'd before watching
I LOVE THIS SERIES... Now to watch the video....
1:58:07 Noise and Justin's score card show up without changing his score (should've gone from 0 to 2). Wouldn't want Troy to feel left out :p
Steven Green needs to have his own show, he makes me laugh until i cry.
Regardless if you have Urborg in play or not, Forbidden Orchard will make dudes for your opponents. It's whenever it is tapped for mana.
y'all should do pauper! Wes will find away to cheatyface cryptic.
+niko stengren
Are there Common legendaries?
In pauper edh you use any uncommon as the general and all 99 cards must have been printed as common at one point
+niko stengren Justin Parnell says he likees Shrikemaw so much, it's a fantastic pauper commander
+niko stengren I agree with pauper.
+niko stengren Needs to happen.....pauper I mean, not cryptic command, never cryptic command
Justin! You did not have to keep taking damage from City of Brass! It was a Swamp!
+Emily Smith City deals damage whenever it's tapped, doesn't matter why it tapped. That's why Mana Confluence is a better card.
commander versus idea, Player Invitational commanders; I'm talking bob, snapcaster, shadow mage, etc
guys in the new set spirit and the lore behind it these themes should be a thing. An Ally deck, a super friends deck, an eldrazi deck and an inisant bystanders deck "Cause you know there had to be a few"
Deck idea for Jon. Jon, you seem to like weird stuff. A friend of mine came up with this and I thought it was awesome. Arjun, the Shifting Flame as General. Mindmoil, Grip of Chaos, Knowledge Pool, Hive Mind, Eye of the Storm, possibly Confusion in the Ranks and Scrambleverse. And then targeted burn and card draw. Maybe Reminisces just to make sure it never ends.
Dang, couldn't have waited a few more weeks for Tazri to play Ally tribal here? :P
Here's hoping you include that deck when you do OGW legends.
Loved it you guys are the best :3
I'm colorblind! Whoooo Esteban's name is Green!