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#yugioh #masterduel #tcg - Hry
It's weird seeing the FTK player being the actual victim 💀
MY SIDES 💀💀
Ikr
They're not a victim. When you shoot an Isis member, that doesn't make the Isis member a victim. FTK and OTK shouldn't even be a thing, but modern Yu-Gi-Oh is a complete shit show.
@@johnnycaralta edgy cretin lol
@@johnnycaralta you really just compared a terrorist to a card game. sick dude. go outside.
Bruh you have the patience of a saint the moment he would've started arguing with me after I explained it I would've gave him a game loss and asked if he wished to argue more
Yeah, I was thinking about if these were my FRIENDS at locals and I would of lost my shit and started shouting 🤣 but I am Autistic so the loud arguing would set me off anyway, I chemically can't help that but Patience of a Saint for sure cuz I know 'normal' people who would also lose it 😆
I literally would have froze him.
Then he would've gone online and started complaining about how it's "literally 1984 now"
That's why u are not a judge. U cant just pass away game loss because someone is heated
This is exactly what I was about to comment holy shit idk how he does it but I would break down and just match loss him probably
I was there when this happened it was the funniest thing ever, and the best part is that Kevin kept taking the FTK guys calls and telling him to keep rolling
What Twitch Vod was this from?
@@Superfip2006 it is the, "New banlist day" one
if anyone finds the video i want to watch this guy mald XD
same, he just wouldn't let it go even though the lp gain didn't matter at all. and he couldn't believe (even though it's literally what he asked for) that the rewind was to just roll for telefon twice. and it's kinda funny that out telefon guy got a judge called 2 more times if i remember right.
This matter wouldve been settled in picoseconds if they just explained to them that eventually their opponent would summon a cannon soldier which would be infinitely tributing a ressurrecting Telefon. Boom. Done.
Even giving blue the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't aware of how the telefon loop worked, by the end of it he was for sure trying to rule shark his opponent to avoid the FTK. "What, you can just rewind the game state?" Yes. Yes you can. It's not hard since there wasn't a 'random chance' aspect to it. He was absolutely attempting to game the judges here.
100%. He just didn't want to get ftk'd so he rulesharked his opponent trying to end the game quicker. My god some people are just crazy
"I am requesting a rewind"
"What you can just rewind?"
My brother in christ it is what you requested
@@Arthastasia i mean it's not like it's the first ruling in his favour he wanted apealed.
He tried to rule shark him for the entire time even after this call ended by constantly calling judges every time the guy didn’t roll 🤣 even though the guy was doing it to save him time.
@@Arthastasia
More like...
"I've requested a Rewind for the past 10 minutes"
*Never did once*
"You can just summon monsters for free, that's lit"
*Actively being combative*
"What you can just rewind?! This is going on my CZcams"
*Which it did, and Boy is the entire video page a great laugh*
Blue is the type of guy who would say -"Chain"
-His Opponent: "Chain What" ?
-Blue: "Chain Ragequit"
Gets a favorable judgement.
*appeals out of spite*
There’s stupidity and ignorance, and then there’s this judge call 😂
He was rule sharking to the extreme.
"You didn't follow the full context of the card, therefore you get nothing haha your loop is broken"
He just wanted to win and couldn't accept he was losing.
Yeah man he literally wanted the judges to say "you cannot summon telephon because you didn't roll to gain life, proceed with the current game state from here." Completely clueless.
@@Musical_Nero I mean, there's some things that you can't take back, like if you summon a monster with optional on summon effect, yet you choose to play another card. I don't think you can go back and say "Oh, misplay, I activate that on summon effect now"?
I think he's feeling kinda like that at that moment. I'm not sure about how this particular combo works, though.
Man's wanted Konami to get involved, lmao
@@mbrusyda9437 The combo is just Telefon summons Telefon, because Telefon is level 1, so rolling the die does not matter because no matter the roll, you're still getting Telefon back. And since Telefon is not a hard OPT, you can reuse the effect over and over and over again, and rolling the die basically does nothing but waste time. Yes, the roll determines how much LP you gain....but it's Telefon *FTK* meaning the opponent is gonna lose that turn and it doesn't matter what your LP total is because you are playing out the turn to win.
So yes, blue was trying to massively rule shark to not lose to Telefon FTK, and both red and the judges in the call were trying to say "It's fine for red to not roll the die because he is FTK'ing you bro" and blue was just being a toxic rule shark about it.
Why blue wasn't banned for it, I have no idea, because he clearly should have been banned under the banner of "Rule Sharking / Toxic Behavior"
@@vgmaster02 why's there talk about illusion then? That refers to Wall of Illusion?
Drytron: he isn’t rolling dice!
Coder: roll dice then.
Drytron: how dare you make my opponent follow the rules that ultimately don’t matter! I appeal for no reason!
His actual objective was to get the judge to say "didnt follow the rules, issued game loss "
This guy would unironically sit through the full psy blocker combo calling every name
And this is why I prefer using Six Shinobi. Faster to finish and impervious to those garbage anti-FTK handtraps like Hano Wata
That actually sounds like something I would do for some good trolling
, granted I haven't read the rules for this game I play for 5 years so no clue if the thing where if something is an infinite loop you can just say how many itetations you go through is a rule or just smth to speed up games,
If it isn't an actual rule you better show me how good you are at googling up every card in the game
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 dark ruler, activate raigeki
@@merlin2062 AFAIK the rule is, perform the loop twice to determine if it's an infinite loop and if there's no response possible to stop it at any point, (Nibiru for example) and you don't want to surrender skip to the loop resolution.
@@Kurumisama yeah I know about this just wasn't sure if it was a hard set rule, or just something people generally agree on in order to not go to time game 1
Blue is so clueless. He wanted the judges to say "red you're not allowed to use telephon any more because you didn't roll for life." What a god tier pepega
He's not one of my people, he's to stupid even for us.
Could you repeat that last line in human?
@@calvinanderson4245 Googling "pepega meaning" gives the answer "Pepega is an Emote that is mainly used on the streaming platform Twitch. The Pepega Twitch Emote is used whenever a streamer says something stupid or inconsiderate. The Emote is usually used with ironic intent to show the streamer that something didn't work out as well as hoped". Glad to have googled it for ya, champ. I know it's hard to do that yourself.
If that doesn't answer your question - "What a god-tier moron".
@@firstnext5482 Thanks for the meltdown, Twitch addict. Quality entertainment.
@@calvinanderson4245 Nah, I had to look it up too. Difference is when I had a question I asked it, not insulted people about it.
I judged for MtG before and the "Yes" from the judge just to cut off the bullshit was so incredibly cathartic to watch
Reminds me of when i helped at my lgs casual commander night and explaining to this screaming man that yes world eater loops exist
I also judge for MtG and calls where it was essentially "Judge my opponent is about to win and I don't like it so, uh, he didn't declare he was leaving his untap step! Give him a game loss, or something! No? Well he drew a card but didn't say it was for his draw step! No? Well he didn't say "beginning of combat" and just started declaring attackers, he wasn't in the "declare attackers" phase! No? Then fuck you I concede I'm never playing at this LGS again you judges personally hate me and that's the only reason I lose and reeEEE." are some of my favorites. They can't admit that they're losing and want you to use your mystical judge powers to stop it from happening.
@@firstnext5482 "Give him a game loss, or something" is pretty reliable way to get disqualified.
@@colgatelampinen2501 That'd be their intention. Never met someone dumb enough to say it verbatim.
... Yet.
It's like if your opponent only controls one monster and you activate a card that targets an opponent's monster and you don't specify the target and they get upset.
Now I just want to see a duel between this guy and Dawnstar, just to see his mind implode into a singularity of confusion.
sadly no longer possible… 😢
The forbidden collab
Its time to repeat the 30 move Infinite loop 14 billion time
that would be Drytron God's hell.
@@masterofrites2749 to my knowledge
It is possible once more
Wait, you can just do that? Call a judge, repeatedly suggest your preferred course of action/punishment to them and then insult them?
You have to remember these judges are battle hardened against this kind of inane stupidity. Rather than losing their cool and pulling the trigger on bans and punishments they are there to fix game states, issue rulings and help the players.
@@Musical_Nero
Not gonna lie, Blue should've taken a suspension, at the very least.
Rule Sharking & Toxicity.
@@rukitomikutochi8764 Nah the judge will always let it go, they dont want to deal with some stupidity unless it involve intentional cheating. I've gone through the same situation 3 times, and I learnt to always play oppresive meta decks in db, so they will quit rather than argue nonsense
Yes. Eventually you call them a retard and say you're ruling against them because they're stupid and don't understand anything.
Shuts them up quickly.
For those unaware: Telefon effect rolls a d6, you gain LP equal to the result x 100, then you summon a Morphtronic monster with a level equal or lower than the result from grave. This is able to target another copy of itself, and it's a soft once per turn. Meaning that as long as you always keep one in grave, Telefon's effect will ALWAYS succeed in summoning another copy of itself because it's level 1.
As long as you can keep getting one in grave (which is pretty easy, helloooooo infinite link material!), you can keep respawning it as much as you want. And if you can tribute a Telefon off in some way that does damage, there's your FTK. You can even insulate it with an Apollousa, since Nib will ruin your day.
Of course someone named "Drytron God" would be this obtuse.
"I'm sorry, I don't understand what an "opponent's effect" is. I've never seen one before."
@@delta3244 lmao
@@delta3244 Can confirm that you either are forever stuck in the days of a gorillion negates, or you take the beatdown pill. This guy is in the former camp.
the telephone player when his opponent calls judge and then the judge rules in his favor: "INFINITE POWER"
This is kind of the duality of judging as the judge has to suffer with people like this but it provides a good bit of entertainment looking at it.
Coder: Ok, I'll do what you want.
APPEAL!!!
Coder: ... ??????
Blue is clearly just implying that he wants you to give red a game loss. But if he were to say that outright, he would get in trouble for sharking.
Cmon Coder, you know this dude just wanted you to rule it as a loss for FTK player. He didn’t outright say it, but that’s the ONLY thing he coulda been going for.
Honestly the lack of understanding blue showed here was enough to set his account to beginner, if you can't maintain a game state you shouldn't be playing rated duels
He just didn't understand judge protocol and thought that his opponent should get a game loss for not rolling for life every time they activate Tele, not that he didn't understand the game state. You can tell by how he said he was calling for a rewind but then was surprised by what a rewind actually meant for him.
@@Musical_Nero Like, oh shit, A Rewind? Oh shit, I am still dead. lol
@@Musical_Nero he probably thought a rewind was literally just reseting the game.
@@suezuccati304
Yeah exactly, he was obviously looking to change the entire game state on the basis of "well my opponent didn't fully resolve his effect therefore his entire plays are invalid and the duel should start over"
"How would I know that?" He asks. Have you tried reading, good sir? It's literally written on telefon and all dice that matter here is 1-6. So it will ALWAYS be able to summon itself.
Even if he didn't realize it himself, I am sure red would have simply explained that had he been given the chance to. The issue is blue was plugging his ears going lalalala to anything anyone wanted to say.
Red should 100% roll for the first few Telephons especially if it is simply off normal summon into machine dupe because he can still be playing into Nibiru, but after that the rolls LITERALLY do not matter since blue clearly has no response.
Apparently Judges are actually free copies of Effect Veiler now.
I'm still not sure what that guy wanted, I guess to rewind the game state before Telefon's activation but then to forbid red from using Telefon as punishment for not resolving it correctly the first time?
He wanted a DQ and the Telefon player to be banned from rated possibly.
He wanted to avoid being ftk'd
Blue was trying to rule shark red because he didn't "properly" resolve Telefon, because he knew he was getting FTK'd, and since rolling the die on DB takes a day and a half, if red did that for EVERY...SINGLE...EFFECT USE...the game would literally take until retirement to finish the FTK combo. Telefon FTK only runs the level 1 Morphtronic phones anyway, so Telefon will always get its effect off, so to not lose, he basically rule sharked to try and give red a game loss and potential ban, which is just the lowest form of toxicity there is in this game.
Rewind the game before rock paper scissor so he can try to go first and not get ftk
It also seemed like blue didn't understand the difference between a reproable and irreparable gamestate. And thought that the instant you make a mistake, somehow you just can't use the effect anymore.
Same energy as that one lawyer who hearsay'ed himself.
The real thing would be seeing how he reacted to being FTK'D? And how long the ftk took.
That would've been nice.
I‘m sad he didn‘t say his Channel name, seems like an entertaining person
Bro said “hold up I’ve got too much time in my hands”
No joke
I feel like he was already basically asking you to dq his opp for "not properly resolving" lol
people become friggin ruling sharks when they're losing, happens a lot in our locals tbh
i think blue expected you to say "you didnt properly resolve the effect, your board is illegal, im issuing a loss to red"
But even in this case the correct course of action for the judge to take is making Red roll for every summon he performed. There is literally not a world where blue gains anything from this dumb ass call, it makes me grit my teeth
Gotta love how blue kept complaining EVEN AFTER GETTING A REWIND ON THE GAME STATE SO RED DOES THE ROLLS.
The guy clearly had no idea that a rewind just meant Red could start his combo again from step 1. "I was asking for a rewind for 20 minutes." "What do you mean, a rewind makes us rewind to a previous step? No that's not what I wanted."
“I want a rewind.” “Ok, rewind to before the first Telefon effect.” “No, I want a rewind to before he draws his opening hand so he doesn’t draw a hand that can do this.”
Drytron players dont understand it that the opponent can play too
This isn't even just something that "most players do" to avoid looping combos from taking a long time, it's literally in Konami's official policy that when performing a controlled loop like this that players should perform the loop once, then declare how many times they wish to repeat it and then resolve the effects that many times without actually performing the actions again.
I suppose, ironically telefon might be a bit of a gray area, as even though the lp gain doesn't matter in the long run, it does mean that the loop isn't completely determinable. But realistically I can't imagine any judge ruling against the use of fast-forwarding here unless the opponent actually had some sort of interaction that would make the lp gain matter.
Ofc it was an ftk, the only way it could matter is if the opponent somehow summoned a Nurse Reficule 😅
When he says "he didnt resolve anything", he's basically just saying words in hopes it means anything.
I love these judge videos!
That is not what Drytron God was trying to do. Drytron god knows the effects of the cards he is talking about. The point Drytron god is trying to make is that he wants all his opponents to go *exactly* how the cards are stated with no skipping any steps.
Why does he want this? Simple -> *To call a judge and ask for his opponent to be Punished*
Noticed how Drytron God doesn't care about anything the judges were doing. What he wanted is the judges to give his opponent a game loss for not going through the infinite loop. Because the judges were not stating that his opponent should be punished the guy started becoming belligerent which is why he kept saying "Enforce the rules" as in "Punish the rulebreaker".
All the dude cared about was trying to get a free win when he knew he was FTK'd.
He is super salty, wants to gain free wins against FTKs. He should probably stop playing Yu-Gi-Oh! And chill the fuck out. lol
OK I agree with you 100% with every single line except for The last one.
Is it really a free win when technically it’s the only out against FTK if you don’t draw hand traps
~~ by the way I’m not encouraging this this is extremely toxic behavior, I just wanted to point this out~~
@@empireyouth5791 It is a free win *because* he didnt already have the out. If he had the out he wouldn't be so adamant in ignoring any of the Judges attempts to appease him by going through the steps via the logs (which would've allowed him to respond). He didnt respond and therefore he didnt have the out.
This is doubly the case because he tries to say "You can't take back actions" which is contingent on the clause of "You aren't activating them correctly". Meaning he wants his opponents cards to "Fizzle" ergo straight up discarding them without effect.
This all points to Drytron God not only not having the out but trying his best to shoot for a DQ on his opponent.
It is well known that once you perform an infinite loop once, you dont have to keep repeating it step by step. You can state how many times you want to do it. Do it once and then all subsequent times it will be turbod through.
If you have an out, it would need to be used then. "Hand Traps" are on the turn player who is doing the loop and he didnt activate anything in response to the loop.
Now if you recall, the judges were saying "It doesn't matter because you are getting FTK *THIS* turn. a turn would be the turn player, the one who is currently doing the telefon loop.
Therefore if Drytron God had nothing to respond to, he was losing right then and there.
@@MaleficArken So you are saying that Drytron God is a salty boi. lol
"First off, no ablelist slurs"
I already like this judge.
I suspect DrytronGod expected a rewind to be impossible since the LP gain is random and the gamestate would be considered broken. The way DB players try to ruleshark...
I love how there's people who can sit there and tell not one, but two judges that they're wrong. Thank you for putting yourself through this for our entertainment.
So glad I was there for that coder. Thanks for the great content
I really wanna see the video on his end now
Assisting to it live was the funniest thing I've ever seen! And then red was in other calls after this one, I felt bad for him but they were hella chill!
This is probably just as good as the judge call with the floo player who wanted to activate Stri's effect after the opponent summoned Erebus in an open game state
He's a ygo player so it's expected if he didn't read cards, but this guy is also incapable of reading the room apparently.
Actually, this is ironically the one yugioh player who did read the cards and insist they be played correctly. This is what reading cards gets you, we were right not to do it.
Missed opportunity to put walter white over the part where you said "im the one asking the questions". Loved the video and had a good laugh on stream off this
Tbf, when you're setting up a loop, going through it fully for the first iteration seems like a good practice.
If I’m not mistaken, blue has topped regionals before yet can’t fucking understand shortcutting a loop? Yugioh players are actually insane.
@@SupPhil301 sorry, still learning from mtg where something like the FTK shown in the video would be called a loop over there(at least in my pod lmao). But still, shortcutting a combo as to not take an insane amount of time is common in card games and blue just came off as rule sharking to try and steal a win.
@@SupPhil301 This is not a loop, but not because it isnt the topologic loop.
What you stated was a "mandatory loop" and will end up destroying a card on the field unless it changes the gamestate in some way and will end in a game loss.
There is also the six samurai loop, what it does is build counters but is not mandatory.
What makes it a loop is that at the end of the combo you have the same amount of extra deck cards by the end of it and the same cards on field or in the grave to repeat it again.
This is a loop that is NOT mandatory and you can just declare how many times you want to do it.
Telephon isnt this because you lose some extra deck cards and you can not just say "repeat this 100x" because there isnt a way to send telepon to the GY.
If you had cannon soldier on the field, it would be a loop. Because you could go "Telepon, Cannon Soldier, repeat 1000x until dead".
You need a repeatable gamestate (this includes the extra deck) to call something a loop.
I want to see his video so badly, now. Should be a wild ride lol
"this guy should play goat" NO. Don't invade my space.
bruh the patience you showed with that guy, I would just ban him after the 3rd time of him saying that telephone can't activate
Rule-sharking so hard that Jaws got jealous, golly
Imagine this shit happening at a locals "no you must roll every time or it doesn't count"
How on earth did you keep your cool with this guy coder, he’s nuts
Man even the easiest rulings can be such a headache godamn
I enjoy the second judge how he did take care of that after that guy did not wanted to listening to you xd
Yeah duelingbook needs a update where the judges head honchos etc can have speech to text on to make messages and judging like this alot easier lol
I give you two props for putting up with that guy.
“Pants check” LMAOO I died
I love these judge call videos, there’s always people who can’t wrap their brains around simple shit like this. Funniest thing is this dude really thought people would go to his video and somehow be on his side when he’s being clowned on by Coder and his entire chat.
"i'm wearing pants AND socks!"
i love that XD
he probably needs to read a wikihow on how to boil the water and follow it words by words
i really wish when he was asking for an appeal coder said "appeal deez"
I should get back to watching 5D's. Last episode I left off on was the first Morphtronic duel.
Blue is the kind of guy who wants to shark and doesn't leash their own murderous dog.
I love the sound of rule sharks crying in the morning
Blue should absolutely be punished for sharking.
''Dryton god'' THAT EXPLAINS A LOT!
The defenition of stupidity - *A picture of Drytron God's chat logs*
This is advanced sharking
Yo, this dude's making a youtube video? I wanna see it. I want to see him verbalise his thinking here.
its as the saying goes "the less they know the more they think they know". he doesnt know/understand the loop so he think its not and is arguing it, that or he hopes he can bully his way instead of playing by the rules.
He's called 'drytron god' bro I wouldn't expect him to know what colour grass is
I got Telefon-ed at locals once. After like 3 dice rolls my opponent and I just agreed that he'd gain 300 every time so we didn't have to actually roll the dice. Saved us both some time
And also it’s less than average
I also don't get the hand trap argument lol. What are you going to do? Effect Veiler specifically the 8231th summon?
Yea duelingbook had these players where really they never wanted to accept that they just got beat by an FTK so they try to make every excuse in the book or self rule to get out of it. Then when the judges even say "yea this is a loop where stuff *has* to activate no matter what so this part takes the longest and is irrelavent because you're gonna be dead."
Away from that i was facing an otk draw exodia deck someone was using on me and i noticed they were using a "may" type card effect. they told me "hey this is gonna be an infinite loop so you lose" and i was just "I want to see all of it played out." some back and forth about how irrelavent it was but he continued on right up until he MISSPLAYED an effect because he was going too fast and completely forgot to resolve his "may" effect correctly by that point 3 other cards were played but because it didn't hit correctly he didn't get a 1 extra draw he needed and his turn had to end.
Of course he's like "oh uh yea i just forgot to do this so it still goes off." Instantly im like Nuh uh you screwed up a ftk the hell if im gonna let you take that back." Which i called a judge and it was in my favor to which the dude left pissed off because he had 0 defensive measures on his field and with me going 2nd i was going to ftk him myself.
People are nuts. I remember having to be my own judge on Dueling Network and that was straight-up cancer.
I have never seen someone argue so hard for the ability to be slowly ftk'ed
This goes from rule shark to rule megalodon
This is the Rule Sharkiest Rule Shark that has ever Rule Shark'd
Assuming there's a real reason to roll a die, the correct action is reverting the game state to before the first Telefon activation.
„Roll a judge“
"Are you judges or homies at home half-naked"
Oh yeah, let's insult the fucking judge, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!
This is about as productive as speaking to a brick wall.
10:00 its not like you give blue the feeling that you understand what angers him^^
I would love to have seen blue reaction to the end of it all
The greatest part of this.
YES.
Wooow this guy really didn't want to get FTK'd
That guy just draw no handtraps vs a Telephone FTK and didn't wanted to lose so he instead choosed the rulesharking way to get a game loss advantage so he in the second game could win, i'm 100% sure thats what happend there.
I mean
The dice roll is not mandatory in this situation and he still fight to win the duel by declearing his opponent not rolling the dice 😂😂😂
this is excellent content. thanks
“You can just summon guys for free no rules?”
~Local Drytron player
I would love to find his video to see his reaction and perspective on this oh so trivial matter XD
Someone in chat that day actually found that dood's channel, but he didn't want to dox him for obvious reasons. Especially since that guy only had like 4 subs.
@@kongk4 Understandably wise decision
@@kongk4 what's his channel's name?
Petition to make the dice-rolling animation faster on DuelingBook when
And this is why I only play automated simulators.
While the guy is a shark, i feel like hes just a uninformed shark if he doesnt seem to get how this is a loop that would take forever. If the telephon guy only started doing the loop, id probably rule that he properly resolved his stuff for maybe 2 loops, then go "hey so this is infinite, so if you dont mind im skipping steps"
"roll a judge"
This dude hasn’t heard of the six same infinite loop💀