Could Eleanor be META? [battle simulator garrison testing] Rise of Kingdoms
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Testing Eleanor of Aquitaine in a garrison using the Rise of Kingdoms battle simulator.
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0:00 About the simulator testing
3:47 Eleanor Hera Testing
8:32 Eleanor Jan & Beli Testing
12:16 Why Belisarius Prime
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Sooooooo one BIG thing I got wrong here is that beli prime 200 rage requirement only activates against a surrounded target. So if you had a counter rally on the rally, it would kick in. This means that theoretically he could perform better than the simulator results in the right context, and if he's doing well in duel results he'll be doing even better in group fights.
could you test jan ziska and heraclius VS eleanor and heraclius defending again'snt the meta rallies?
Attila just refuses to become irrelevant.
Scourge of god indeed
meanwhile,no one even remembers poor old takeda
@@Ssrijonyes, that normal damage is crazy
Alex and Atilla are hanging on by a thread only to make a huge comeback
I remember when CJ came out and the rumor was oh he beats everybody. But he turned out to be a frog. Elly and Belly are their own version of frogs.
This sounds like lillith told him to say she was good
Aye looking forward to the stream!
Sticking to my comment on the announcement video of Beli. Belisarius/Attila as a secondary rally at passes or even on flags is going to be super strong. Anti swarm and affecting the enemy rage is going to be massive.
You really need to show the Jan/Hera results against the same rallies for a benchmark.
if you wanna swarm the rally you can just switch to beli eleanor for a bit since they both make target take more damage, and if ur done or it didnt work switch back to main garrison.
Beli may have potenticial with Joan primary or XY, if you want to slipt aoe dmg on the field. Need to test Justinian with Beli to see if they have sinergy. Maybe not as a tank rally but a second rally
eleanor of aquitaine and belisarius sounds like a fever dream, but sodt of makes sense
Beli is made to be a rally swarm with Eleanor garrison. Beli’s kit works 100% in that condition, while Eleanor buffs the field march and herself.
Need to check Justinian + Belisarius as rally pair
Belisarius looks like a valid sleeper garrison choice
She require AOE to be countered while archer are countered by cav lol
The bottom line of this video is that:
Complement Beli to look good, after players are upset of how the new generation commander WORSE than previous generation (HouQubing/Justinian) and the previous generation (JoanArc) and the previous generation (Nevsky)
Don't forget to test Eleanor/Nevsky! If beli works, nevsky will definitely works
Does active skill rage stack on something being swarmed by multiple beli primes?
Bro Justin/beli prime Will work in rally ?
The active skill has a 10% probability of getting procced again, with a cooldown of 10 turns - so it should happen once every 20 turns (assuming a 1v1 fight).
once every 17 seconds is the actual likelihood of that math assuming that one commander is hitting the garrison the entire time.
@@Vermonster19 Oh, so both the normal attack and the counterattack count as separate attacks?! (But not your attack in the turn when you instead of normal attack use the actual active skill?)
Chadski legit singlehandedly defined the garrison meta with attila/gorgo. Fuckin out of the box thinking if you actually think about it. Also, like he said in ploto's video, i feel cav hp is overrated compared to cav def.
Hey chisgule,I have a question. Which Infantry commonder is good as a primary commonder in open field scipio or liu che? ))))
Both but if u want ti combine them Scipio primary with a some infantey and supporto tree skill tree
scipio 100%. the support tree is a lot better than attack :D
Belisarius 200 rage requirement debuff is not working because it's when target is surrounded
100% chance that the simulator is not working properly.
Very sure. I would not trust simulator
Hi I’m a f2p player and don’t know if I should invest all my sculptures in expertise liu che or split them between him and scipio thoughts about that?
Probably expertise liu che if you have another decent infantry commander but idk
Liu Che 100%
expert lui che if you have alexander the great at good level
Is lc better than scipio now?
also, testing with ash/zhuge?
So elenor and bela also weaken incoming rally also what make the combo stronger ,what the test no catched......
but the real question is how do these reports compare to gorgo garrisons. Is she actually better than gorgo in any situation?
where's the description for the simulator ?
It's speckohs simulator. Called RoK battle simulator
Sweet called it in your other vid haha 😂
Hello fellow ROK CZcamsr❤
Interesting….a new defense mechanism
Here are my initial thoughts. Cavalry doesn't have an issue with 1v1 trades- usually. Its issue is that it is squishy on the rally and garrison front. It can look good all it wants in this simulator but without some anti swarm or aoe, it's just going to get shredded in higher seeds unless you use Hera (or in incredibly niche situations). Nev justinian had insane reports leading into its release that made a ton of people hyped until in every high seed it got easily swarm shredded to absolutely terrible trades. Given that Hera is necessary, it is further needed to see if Ziz Hera is simply better. (And ziz isn't even top of garrison meta).
Perhaps a long winded way of saying I think it is unlikely this is a good investment- don't see these reports and think let's go all in (even if a garrison lead)! Time might tell otherwise, but unlikely.
The real question is does Eleanor/Hera perform better than Jan/Hera
Funny how omniarch just got irrelevant
Will Bertrand rage reduction stack with Beli? If so, Bertrand/Beli debuff meta? 😂
how much lilith paid u to do this?
Just remember, all sevs in the rally are deads. Not so in the garrison.
I feel Nevsky 2nd might be better
Didn't you try eleanor with joan?
This should work pretty good with 4th skill on joan
joan skill just work on the field and eleanor skill just work on the garrison
4 th skill joan says while on the map
Technically rally isn't on the map..
9:56 no he doesn't, his skill requires the target to get surrounded
I don't care I am gonna make them both😂😂
How do I get this rok battle simulator?
Gotta get it from the creators patron, linked in the description
@@ragingomen2248 doesn’t work on phone 😒
@@ragingomen2248 doesn’t even have siege commanders on it anyway 🤣
@@MrSiegeOfficial 😂😅
Hopefully my comment on Omniarch having done this test on this tool sparked the video idea...😂
I can take check for video idea. Heh
the stats are there bro ... its a numbers game, how can these reports be fair comparison
Doesn't really make sense to drop bad comms.. since people going for good comms makes them more money so there is definitely somethint to Beli that people have glanced over
Beli increasing skilldmg by 30% if target is under 80% strength: THATS INSANE HE IS MINI YSG
Nevsky increasing skilldmg by 25% and secondary by another 35% unconditionally: am i a joke to you?
wiiierd
Tip: instead of uploading 2 long form videos in 4 hours upload 1 video/day or every second day that’s actually good, cause what’s happening to your channel is what happened to a friends channel he made good videos but started daily uploading and it ruined him cause they where low effort videos
They are changing his skills. No point doing simulationz
Why this comment when there is not any official announcement that shows they are changing that! Never happen
@@mohammadsn8677 Because titan whales can directly influence. And if you read the skills small font, it says it is subject to change until actual drop in game lmao. A friend talked with higher VIP and they said so.
@@AKHIL-zw2dc LoL didnt you see the official skills in their CZcams video? He is actually in game and nothing will change! Even you pay 999999999 dollars to Lilith they will not change all over the skills! And VIP support is totally different with design team.
@@mohammadsn8677 And who tf said they will change all the skills? They will tweak some parts of it to make it much better. Like maybe aoe, more stats, etc. Who knows.
@@mohammadsn8677 i wonder why they took back the commanders hmmmm👀
@chisgule why trying to make it look good when we both know that is an epic commander and it's does work. So why trying to show wrong things to players to make them stop the numerous complaints around this commanders which is BAD, SUPER BAD
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for money ofc !
mhhhh.... I stick with your first statements, let's stay diplomatic, rubbish remains rubbish, it was clear that you had to say something, that's your job,,,, I don't have the brains for commanders who are so difficult to use. A professor can do that or a millionaire can do that, but let's be honest. For normal players it's pointless and it makes the game more and more expensive, and you can tell by how many people stop playing the game. after the 2nd kvk .because you realize that this game is just a money grab, and the funny thing is, it gets expensive if you play it and you die, if you don't finish it, I don't see any good times coming for this game, but it has to the developers decide, it's just too expensive,,,,, and far too many give up,,,,
Gee perhaps cav players shouldnt have been crying so much beforehand