Canto Melon mandy was raped by her father. mickey was forced to me fucked my a female because of his father. he beat on them. he’s a drunk doesn’t do shit for them. held a gun to mickey and mickeys boyfriend. gallagher’s been through a lot but they seem lucky compared to the milkovich kids
Emma Grace I didn’t say the Milkoviches didn’t have it bad. They had it terrible, though the Gallagher’s aren’t considered “lucky”. They didn’t have a good upbringing either, none of their problems should be undermined.
@@emmagrace9675 Neglect is a form of abuse so that and psychological abuse along with abandonment, drug abuse and alcoholism can leave scars just as bad or worse than physical and or sexual abuse. Both family's stories are tragic and sad but the Gallaghers had a maternal light in their lives (Fiona) who was just barely an adult and the Milkovichs didn't have that.
they shouldve kept these scenes, especially the one with kenyatta and mandy. i think it really opens up more things about mandy and mickey's characters.
Probably because of how it ended maybe? Like it should be against domestic violence not for domestic violence. I kinda find the ending that way, which isn't the way it should end? Like I'm pissed af. I just don't understand what they were trying to prove here. Are they trying to paint Mickey as a bad character or were they trying to actually go against the no domestic violence thing or were they trying to make us see why domestic violence is not always bad?? Idk I don't get it at all. I wish they edited the shitty part out and put it in the show or just, you know, let Mickey speak and all others just listen to him, otherwise just support him like they should, instead of talking shit smh
I was always wondering why on the show, Mickey didn't really do anything about Mandy being abused. I was kind of confused because he was so protective of her in the first season (when they thought Ian raped her). Now I finally got the answer. They should have kept these scene!
Julliana Inding well Kenyatta is more than twice his size, he might be able to get some good punches in but that would result in him getting his ass beat and Mandy getting beat more because of it. There was absolutely nothing he could do but try and convince her she was too good for that shit.
Maybe they took these scenes out because of pacing or they thought it made Mickey seem too soft, but I love them because it shows that he isn't just a thug, he has a moral code and he genuinely loves and cares about Mandy.
They should have kept both scenes. Especially the last one. Mickey was ready to kill Ian when he thought he had hurt Mandy. It doesn't make sense why Mickey isn't doing anything about the fact that Kenyatta hit Mandy, because he would do something about it. These scenes were good, and important! Bad decision to cut them out Shameless!!
maybe because he is 6'8, 250lb black man compared to 5'10, 140lb skinny red head boy. Where were his 40 yr old looking giant brothers that were going to help him beat up Ian when you need them? Jail?
excuse me, did you say hit mandy? I don't know because the show I watched he used her face as a punching bag. What happened to their car? The brain damager?
Apart from showing Mickeys morals, the second scene explains why Mickey was so annoyed when he threw a pillow at Ian and asked him if he should call Ian's boss. Now I know the reason of his irritation- Mickey was upset because of Mandy. Without this scene you can think that Mickey was just being abusive.They shouldn't have deleted this. it's really important.
Mickey also seemed upset when he asked if ian went to work and mandy said she didnt know. And then yea he opens the door and ians still asleep ans still in the same spot where mickey let him that morning and thats when they find out he was in a depressive episode and that he was bipolar
I honestly can't believe how it's possible for somebody like Mickey who's grown around abuse and violence to be such a coherent and kindhearted young man. I love him so much 😭💕
If they made a show about the Milkovich’s family story and what they go through, it would be way more interesting js. I also love seeing Mickey being a protective big brother 😂
i always wondered why mickey had been so protective toward his family (seen season 1 when mickey tried to beat ian up) but did not do anything toward the fact that mandy was being abused... now i get the answer
@@Kaltenacht22 yeah me either. This is like the 5th comment that said, they always wondered why Mickey didn't do anything about that dude beaten mandy especially since he went all gung ho on trying to beat Ian over false accusations in season 1 but after watching this clip, they get it now. Like WTF! Did I miss something? Mandy admitted she's a mess and there is no line of guys wanting to take her out, so, "it's ok!" So Mickey was like, sister has low self esteem. ok, carry on! Good grief!
Why did they delete ALL the Mickey scenes?! Are they fuckin kidding us?! Especially in the 2nd it's pretty obvious that Mickey cares deeply about Mandy and we needed to see that!! 😠
:)))) omg, Mick's Pen + that avatar 😂😂😂 Got me lmao :))) That pic is a voiced-picture , like i literally heard the whole scence that Mick tuk tuk pressing pen sound , Ian's tsk tsk with the dental floss .... aaaaarrrgghhh! Love ittttt
I love how Mickey and Ian do get into physical fights, but I wouldn't consider them to be abuse at all. It's just the way they grew up, and that's just what they do they beat each other up because of frustrations & wanting to feel alive, then they bang 😂
WHICH is exactly how Ian explained it to Caleb on their date. But all Gallavich fans heard was my ex abused me. They should all go back and watch it again. But I think they rather just stay mad and hate on Ian.
I honestly don't understand why when Mandy told Mickey and his brothers that Ian attacked her they all went after him but when this guy is clearly hitting her and they do nothing. I love Mickey he's one of my favourites but I wish the writers made it so that Mickey and probably his brothers would mess that guy up, or atleast threaten him or something
T 995 maybe mandy didn’t want them to go through any trouble for that. it was probably mandy’s doing. i guess mickey also figured that mandy’s real demons were within her: she believed she deserved it. maybe they wanted her to realise she had to face kenyatta, even with her brothers having her back. i don’t know.. it’s kind of f*cked up but maybe that’s the point
It could also be because before he had nothing to lose so he wasn't afraid of anything, but then he had Yevgeny, Svetlana and Ian so he couldn't just risk everything. He had to be careful.
jeanne She’s been through a lot, I mean, her father used to come home drunk and RAPE HER. And I’m 70% Mickey must have had an inkling as to what was going on. But he never mentions it…
It was really a mistake to cut these scenes off, before I watched this I was wondering why Mickey wouldn’t do anything about Mandy’s stupid violence boyfriend , it was so annoying and may cause misunderstanding that Mickey only cared about Ian but didn’t want to help Mandy.
I think they were cute because despite being great scenes, they aren't really essential to the plot of the episode. But they should found a way to keep them though.
When he grabbed the bottle and his face! I can't imagine why they cut that scene it shows mickys impulses for the people he loves most both mandy and ian
Honestly I get really irritated when they cut an Ian/Mickey scene Like why? Especially when it is adorable as fuck and it makes me especially angry how there are WAY more Mikey scenes cut out cuz I know that Nole works really hard on those scene and he is a fantastic actor so is Cameron so I'm not surprised that he left for a lil bit ❤
i feel like the main reason they cut these two scenes was because it makes Mickey seem hypocritical. ian and mickey DO have an abusive relationship, doesn’t matter that they’re both male & that they both hit each other, it’s still abusive. i have no doubt ian & mick love each other, it’s obvious they do, but they do have an unhealthy relationship. these scenes do tell us a lot about mickey & mandy but if they put them in the show it would just make mick seem hypocritical, cuz he & ian hit each other so it wouldn’t really make sense for mickey to be hating on mandy’s boyfriend for the abuse
The fact that she just did everything in her power to keep him under her thumb and it didn't work makes me so happy for Mickey JFC once she got her anchor baby she should have left him in peace instead of blackmailing him and using that kid as currency. I can't believe she worked with Kev and Paco to keep him poor such a terrible woman.
These scenes , obviously, fit so well in the show. i don’t know why they would take them out - they go so well and show how mandy and mickeys lives really are outside of the milkovich house.
They should have done a scene of why Mickey was hestitate to get close to the baby at first, to have someone say that despite how he was conceived he's still your son
Yeah, I used to not understand--I love kids--but then I remembered that, if Yev is Mickey's, he is the product of rape. And kinda the reason that Mickey had to marry Svetlana and Ian ran off.
tierrarucker But in the first episode of season five they made it seem he had com to terms with the beaby, holding him and of course that scene in the police station in episode six, I just wish they had done mor of showing how he got over that reluctense By the way there is a petition out there to bring Mickey back, go to google type bring Mickey Milkovich back to shameless petition and sign
+Nancy Cottone I've already signed it, thanks. I guess he just kind of realized you can't really blame the baby because it's not his fault. I read some fanfiction earlier this week about Mickey finally giving Yev a chance.
Milkovich's kids stories are more heart wrenching than Gallaghars.
zipzap570 Don’t know about that, they’ve both had it bad.
Canto Melon mandy was raped by her father. mickey was forced to me fucked my a female because of his father. he beat on them. he’s a drunk doesn’t do shit for them. held a gun to mickey and mickeys boyfriend. gallagher’s been through a lot but they seem lucky compared to the milkovich kids
Emma Grace I didn’t say the Milkoviches didn’t have it bad. They had it terrible, though the Gallagher’s aren’t considered “lucky”. They didn’t have a good upbringing either, none of their problems should be undermined.
@@emmagrace9675 Neglect is a form of abuse so that and psychological abuse along with abandonment, drug abuse and alcoholism can leave scars just as bad or worse than physical and or sexual abuse. Both family's stories are tragic and sad but the Gallaghers had a maternal light in their lives (Fiona) who was just barely an adult and the Milkovichs didn't have that.
Mandy and micky both raped
Honestly if they just made shameless about Ian and Mickey I would love the show even more
Mahhouse 0114 truuee
They should make a spin off lmfao0
Honestly same
Musiq 310 YEEESSSSSSS
Yep
they shouldve kept these scenes, especially the one with kenyatta and mandy. i think it really opens up more things about mandy and mickey's characters.
It shows Mickey is concerned for his sister
Mark Galan and not just for Ian or the baby yes finally someone who understands
rigdhen he cares about her and I want everyone to know that he doesn’t want his sister gettinghurt
My only question is why was this not kept. It shows Mickeys morals, which are a contrast to what he grew up around
plus it makes sense, he cares about mandy of course he was going to beat up kenyatta at some point
Probably because of how it ended maybe? Like it should be against domestic violence not for domestic violence. I kinda find the ending that way, which isn't the way it should end? Like I'm pissed af. I just don't understand what they were trying to prove here. Are they trying to paint Mickey as a bad character or were they trying to actually go against the no domestic violence thing or were they trying to make us see why domestic violence is not always bad?? Idk I don't get it at all. I wish they edited the shitty part out and put it in the show or just, you know, let Mickey speak and all others just listen to him, otherwise just support him like they should, instead of talking shit smh
@@i_took_a_chonce They cut some parts to fit on TV screen time
@@AtheistMorax right and that's always gotta be Mickey's or Gallavich parts innit
I was always wondering why on the show, Mickey didn't really do anything about Mandy being abused. I was kind of confused because he was so protective of her in the first season (when they thought Ian raped her). Now I finally got the answer. They should have kept these scene!
So true!! 😤
Why are these scenes always cut out
Julliana Inding well Kenyatta is more than twice his size, he might be able to get some good punches in but that would result in him getting his ass beat and Mandy getting beat more because of it. There was absolutely nothing he could do but try and convince her she was too good for that shit.
Mandy is in a relationship with the guy, they get into a fight he'll be right back in the house. All he can really do is convince her to drop him.
totally agree
Maybe they took these scenes out because of pacing or they thought it made Mickey seem too soft, but I love them because it shows that he isn't just a thug, he has a moral code and he genuinely loves and cares about Mandy.
Mickey Milkovich as president
They should have kept both scenes. Especially the last one. Mickey was ready to kill Ian when he thought he had hurt Mandy. It doesn't make sense why Mickey isn't doing anything about the fact that Kenyatta hit Mandy, because he would do something about it. These scenes were good, and important! Bad decision to cut them out Shameless!!
ian?
+Celeste Valle in Season 1 when she lied and said he attacked her when really he just didnt want to have sex with her
+Mark Galan they never used that word, they used attacked
maybe because he is 6'8, 250lb black man compared to 5'10, 140lb skinny red head boy. Where were his 40 yr old looking giant brothers that were going to help him beat up Ian when you need them? Jail?
excuse me, did you say hit mandy? I don't know because the show I watched he used her face as a punching bag. What happened to their car? The brain damager?
That totally explains the hole in the wall in the 5th season when mickey told ian hes goin to the hospital.
Fuck me! I was shook when I saw that. And totally confused. This explains it all
Fuck'em for deleting all the quality scenes
AND CALEB FREAKIBG THINKS MICKEY ABUSED IAN
RIGHT ITS SO FUCKED UP
when he said that me and my mom screamed at the screen in unison "FUCK YOU!"
And with the Season 7 premier, Caleb seems to be cheating on Ian with a girl. I really don't like Caleb.
What episode did Caleb say this?
@@rungirl2008 Season 6, cant remember the episode. He made the comment when he and Ian were on their date.
they really should've kept these scenes, especially the last one, that was a big one for mandy!
Apart from showing Mickeys morals, the second scene explains why Mickey was so annoyed when he threw a pillow at Ian and asked him if he should call Ian's boss. Now I know the reason of his irritation- Mickey was upset because of Mandy. Without this scene you can think that Mickey was just being abusive.They shouldn't have deleted this. it's really important.
Omg fr! Jesus if only these people didn't hate his character more smh
Mickey also seemed upset when he asked if ian went to work and mandy said she didnt know. And then yea he opens the door and ians still asleep ans still in the same spot where mickey let him that morning and thats when they find out he was in a depressive episode and that he was bipolar
I was wondering where the hole in the wall came from..
Nadia Ron some people thought it was from when mickey pushed ian against the wall and told him he was going to the hospital
Janaesia Eichstadt that’s what i thought
jaden alexzandria if you look closely, the hole is there before mickey pushes ian
They didn't keep the scenes because Fiona was fucking that episode LOL.
should've kept both scenes, bad moves on Shameless' part..
I love that Mickey grabbed immediately the bottle. He wanted to protect his sister.
1:53 way micky grabs the bottle and his face! I love him so much - he is so protective over everyone he loves
Mickey's reaction when Mandy said 'It's alright' was perfect. I hate it when Mickey prevents himself from speaking up .
WHY DIDNT THEY KEEP THESE SCENES WHAT THE HECK
IM LOOKING BACJ AND IM PISSED
I honestly can't believe how it's possible for somebody like Mickey who's grown around abuse and violence to be such a coherent and kindhearted young man. I love him so much 😭💕
they really robbed us of that sibling content didn’t they
I need mickey back oh my god I'm gonna die
If they made a show about the Milkovich’s family story and what they go through, it would be way more interesting js. I also love seeing Mickey being a protective big brother 😂
the way mickey grabs that bottle
Bruh I'm in love with mickey
i always wondered why mickey had been so protective toward his family (seen season 1 when mickey tried to beat ian up) but did not do anything toward the fact that mandy was being abused... now i get the answer
i still don't get it anyway
Mandy used to be molested by her dad
+bri dolan I think Mickey was scared of his dad I don't know
Bayla Blan I meant she got raped by him, and tbh everyone is scared of his dad
@@Kaltenacht22 yeah me either. This is like the 5th comment that said, they always wondered why Mickey didn't do anything about that dude beaten mandy especially since he went all gung ho on trying to beat Ian over false accusations in season 1 but after watching this clip, they get it now. Like WTF! Did I miss something? Mandy admitted she's a mess and there is no line of guys wanting to take her out, so, "it's ok!" So Mickey was like, sister has low self esteem. ok, carry on! Good grief!
Why did they delete ALL the Mickey scenes?! Are they fuckin kidding us?! Especially in the 2nd it's pretty obvious that Mickey cares deeply about Mandy and we needed to see that!! 😠
The Milkovichs have a greater storyline than the Gallaghers in my opinion. I would love to see more of these two in Shameless but I guess not:(
He is coming backkkk!!
we got mickey back but i need mandy to return too!
:)))) omg, Mick's Pen + that avatar 😂😂😂
Got me lmao :)))
That pic is a voiced-picture , like i literally heard the whole scence that Mick tuk tuk pressing pen sound , Ian's tsk tsk with the dental floss ....
aaaaarrrgghhh! Love ittttt
So Mickey is apparently the Prince in this shitty world. Good to have my suspicions confirmed. They should have kept that first fucking scene.... >.>
Mickey has had way too less scenes in the show anyway and then they just delete such good scenes? Why?!
I like how these scenes show the MickeyxMandy relationship, that Mickey really cares about her
I love how Mickey and Ian do get into physical fights, but I wouldn't consider them to be abuse at all. It's just the way they grew up, and that's just what they do they beat each other up because of frustrations & wanting to feel alive, then they bang 😂
WHICH is exactly how Ian explained it to Caleb on their date. But all Gallavich fans heard was my ex abused me. They should all go back and watch it again. But I think they rather just stay mad and hate on Ian.
@@darleneeverson4733 They don't hate Ian, they hate Caleb ._.
I honestly don't understand why when Mandy told Mickey and his brothers that Ian attacked her they all went after him but when this guy is clearly hitting her and they do nothing. I love Mickey he's one of my favourites but I wish the writers made it so that Mickey and probably his brothers would mess that guy up, or atleast threaten him or something
That was years ago when Mickey had a gang to run with. No way can Mickey hold his ground against Kenyatta single handedly
@@dreamthief9201 his gang of brothers??
@@darleneeverson4733 Yes
T 995 maybe mandy didn’t want them to go through any trouble for that. it was probably mandy’s doing. i guess mickey also figured that mandy’s real demons were within her: she believed she deserved it. maybe they wanted her to realise she had to face kenyatta, even with her brothers having her back. i don’t know.. it’s kind of f*cked up but maybe that’s the point
It could also be because before he had nothing to lose so he wasn't afraid of anything, but then he had Yevgeny, Svetlana and Ian so he couldn't just risk everything. He had to be careful.
Mickey is the best
the scene with Mandy seemed important on how abusive the relationship really was
I say this every time there is a deleted scene, just because it was deleted from the episode doesn't mean it didn't happen!
oh my god the way he grabbed the bottle and his face.... fucking hell , making me fall in love with Mickey even more oh my god
They shouldn't have cut these
Mikhalio Alexander Milkovich= the best Shameless character
They should never ever delete a Mickey scene
mickey was such a feminist i love him
he is a rational guy
That whole scene was hilarious. And the punch line "didn't you kill your husband" had me choking
Mickey is so protective of her but she never seems to be appreciative
jeanne She’s been through a lot, I mean, her father used to come home drunk and RAPE HER. And I’m 70% Mickey must have had an inkling as to what was going on. But he never mentions it…
This and when he thought Ian raped Mandy was the only time he ever gave a shit. He's my favorite character but he was only ever protective of Ian.
God, Mandy's scene was so heartbreaking.
This scene was so important
The way he says you don’t hit women EVER I can’t 💖💖💖
The 17 dislikes are the people who deleted this scene
I REALLY WANT A BOYFRIEND LIKE MICKEY
MICKEY WAS SO KIND IN THESE SCENES
“that’s the point,you don’t hit women. ever.” gotta love mickey
omg their good at remembering thats the same hole that mickey pushed ian into in 5x05
the mandy scene makes me so upset. :(
Thank you, thank you, thank you .. so grateful for you to put those scenes in very good quality .. you rock :)
1:54 they literally should’ve kept this whole scene bc here you can see how much mickey cared about her and that we was ready to fight
Omfg....this makes me love Mickey even more mannnn. He's such a good brother (not that he shows it often)..
Definitely should have kept the second scene
who cut this out I just wanna talk
It was really a mistake to cut these scenes off, before I watched this I was wondering why Mickey wouldn’t do anything about Mandy’s stupid violence boyfriend , it was so annoying and may cause misunderstanding that Mickey only cared about Ian but didn’t want to help Mandy.
istg its like they were determined to make mickey seem as if he didnt care about anyone but ian
This becomes a question of why did they cut the scene of Mickey protecting his sister but later have Ian take an actual knife to Kenyattas throat.
Why would you ever cut a Mickey scene? Every scene with Noel in it is a good scene :(
Mickey Milkovich and Murdoc Niccals :)
both are my absolute favs
@@kingtaehyun3223 yes!!!
My poor sweetheart Mandy
I was hoping so fucking bad Mickey would crack that dude with the bottle
Poor Mandy...
i love mickey and mandys relationships 🥺
Damn you shameless for taking away some q u a l i t y Mickey scenes
Will never forgive shameless for cutting scenes with Mickey in it. 😔
didnt you kill your husband? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!!!! made my day
I am so in love with Mickey.
they deleted all the scenes of Mickey adressing mandys abuse. so the season just looks like he doesnt give a $hit
Fukcing Milkoviches, man :(
1:52 MICKWY GRABBED THAT BOTTLE SO FAST
It's a damn travesty deleted either Mickey or Ian scenes from the shows. They make Shameless .
why was this cut?
I think they were cute because despite being great scenes, they aren't really essential to the plot of the episode. But they should found a way to keep them though.
Here I was thinking Mickey never defended Mandy for getting hit by Kenyatta why would they cut these scenes smh
When he grabbed the bottle and his face! I can't imagine why they cut that scene it shows mickys impulses for the people he loves most both mandy and ian
Honestly I get really irritated when they cut an Ian/Mickey scene Like why? Especially when it is adorable as fuck and it makes me especially angry how there are WAY more Mikey scenes cut out cuz I know that Nole works really hard on those scene and he is a fantastic actor so is Cameron so I'm not surprised that he left for a lil bit ❤
Melhor personagem de série
Probably deleted these scenes to keep more drunk Frank or screaming Fiona scenes😩
Mickey is my favorite character in the show.
I agree
Mickey is my all time favorite character
i feel like the main reason they cut these two scenes was because it makes Mickey seem hypocritical. ian and mickey DO have an abusive relationship, doesn’t matter that they’re both male & that they both hit each other, it’s still abusive. i have no doubt ian & mick love each other, it’s obvious they do, but they do have an unhealthy relationship. these scenes do tell us a lot about mickey & mandy but if they put them in the show it would just make mick seem hypocritical, cuz he & ian hit each other so it wouldn’t really make sense for mickey to be hating on mandy’s boyfriend for the abuse
People are hypocritical.
No puedo creer que hayan pasado casi 10 años. Esta temporada es mi favorita 😭. Recuerdo haber estado re obsesionada con Ian and Mickey 💔
Those are good scenes they should have kept them
Mickey grabbed that bottle quickly.
The fact that she just did everything in her power to keep him under her thumb and it didn't work makes me so happy for Mickey JFC once she got her anchor baby she should have left him in peace instead of blackmailing him and using that kid as currency. I can't believe she worked with Kev and Paco to keep him poor such a terrible woman.
mickeys hair is 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Mickey said Women's rights
Both these scenes just build on these characters that everybody loved but didn’t get enough of. Why cut them?
NEVER CUT A SCENE THAT SHOWS MICKEY'S TENDER SIDE
diane cry-anne nguyen
Never cut scenes with Mickey period.
These scenes , obviously, fit so well in the show. i don’t know why they would take them out - they go so well and show how mandy and mickeys lives really are outside of the milkovich house.
They should have done a scene of why Mickey was hestitate to get close to the baby at first, to have someone say that despite how he was conceived he's still your son
Yeah, I used to not understand--I love kids--but then I remembered that, if Yev is Mickey's, he is the product of rape. And kinda the reason that Mickey had to marry Svetlana and Ian ran off.
tierrarucker
But in the first episode of season five they made it seem he had com to terms with the beaby, holding him and of course that scene in the police station in episode six, I just wish they had done mor of showing how he got over that reluctense
By the way there is a petition out there to bring Mickey back, go to google type bring Mickey Milkovich back to shameless petition and sign
+Nancy Cottone I've already signed it, thanks.
I guess he just kind of realized you can't really blame the baby because it's not his fault.
I read some fanfiction earlier this week about Mickey finally giving Yev a chance.
teeAIRraaa
what's the title?
teeAIRraaa
Please what's the titile of the fanfiction
mickey is a feminist and we all fucking love it
Not enough to carry a whole show
Jesus I love Mickey
Anyone else miss mandy
Why didn't they keep these scenes?!
i’m so in love with Mickey, it hurts me
they should've keep these scenes of mickey in ..