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What's My Line? - Gertrude Berg; Faye Emerson [panel] (May 9, 1954)
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- MYSTERY GUEST: Gertrude Berg
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Steve Allen, Faye Emerson, Bennett Cerf
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Bring back this civility, class, and high humor.
Accomplishments like hers are basically impossible now. The longevity of careers such as Berg's is amazing, and will most likely never happen again.
@What's My Line? - Just a bit insulting for such a lady and accomplished artist that the people who made up the name plates gave her the name of one of her many characters and did not use her name on the sign. They have spelled other people's names incorrectly at times, but this is a character name that would be generally shown on camera for the audience live and at home to see in event they did not know her well-known TV role. Though, I dare say everyone knew her Molly Goldberg.
@@philippapay4352 It is a tad bit insulting that you did not equally assume, that as an independent and accomplished woman, as she was, she did not sanction/suggest the "name plate" herself. Additionally, Steve Allen, blindfolded at the time, used the name "Molly Goldberg" to identify the name of the mystery guest. He could have been insulting her (with or without intent), he could have not know her actual name and used the character she played/created name or he could have used this name because she had created a character that had become so beloved that people used the charters name interchangeably with her actual name. Of course, if she felt insulted, Ms. Berg had every opportunity to correct the error and/or not return (she did).
@@nonenone3427 I wish that were the case. Sad to say, it was personnel of the show who made these embarrassing mistakes even with the spelling of many celebrities names. I think they misspelled Johnnie Ray, as Johnny, and Judy Holliday, as Holiday, Lilly Dache, as Lily, Ann Sothern, as Southern, among several others. Even Daly once removed a mistaken name plate, so he clearly did not proofread them in advance.
@@philippapay4352 No need to wish. Former or future spelling errors of other celebrities' names can not imply that Ms. Berg did not sanction/enjoy or even request the use of her character's name. Before assuming insulting behavior on behalf of a long dead performer/artist or ascribing insulting behavior to a long dead staff member, you may want to read about Ms. Berg (in the context of the actual time period and specific event) who routinely enjoyed signing BOTH her name and the name of "Molly Goldberg" when fans requested her autograph. This has been know and written about since 1956 when Mr. M. Freedman profiled her for a Judaism culture article. Far from being insulting, the association of Ms. Berg name and her character's name, was presented as a common and kind gesture reflective of the love of the public for both Ms. Berg and the character she created. Mr. Daly's use of Ms. Berg's name and the panelist use of her character's name is reflective of this. I can not quite apply a negative connotation to a routine practice that Ms. Berg, herself, was willing to sanction by affixing her signature to.
@@nonenone3427 I know that many celebrities are asked by fans to write their character's name, rather than their own. I do not personally know if Miss Berg did that because she was asked to do so by fans or just did it on her own. Because she was an accomplished theater actress of long decades' standing, I would think not, but could be wrong. But, since I was alive and watching these shows in real time back in the day and knew of Miss Berg's work because I, too, went into theater, I am doubtful. Nonetheless, thank you for the reference to the writer who noted this was common in her autographs. I will look it up in the spring because I may learn more. I think the show was sloppy at times, but I am not maligning anyone in particular who made an unfortunate mistake on a job. However, for a performer their name is their brand and it is a problem to be misnamed or misspelled on a placard of that nature. The entire point of their being the MG was advertising for their current play, movie, book, TV special, series, and so on. I will refer back to your note to look up the name when I am ready to read further on this topic.
Gertrude Berg had another TV series called "Mrs. G. Goes To College" in 1961-62, which was changed to the title "The Gertrude Berg Show" halfway through its run. Arlene Francis guest starred in one of the episodes.
Wow! I shall look forward to seeing the Arlene Francis episode.
Mrs. G. Goes to College just started being aired on the Talking Pictures Channel here in the UK.
The last episode I watched had The Kingston Trio who sang Tom Dooley....later turned into a great film starring a very young Michael Landon!
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@@anselmgolden8286 I remember that movie well (especially due to the song).
Anti snoring device guy is having a great time. What a dear. Funny one!
I was surprised to see the deference and respect the panel showed to Gertrude Berg. The women stood up to shake her hand, and Bennet even stepped out from behind the desk to greet her. This is exactly the same respect the panel showed to Eleanor Roosevelt, which, up until now, I thought had been unique in the show's history.
Whenever the panel catches on quickly to the person's line you can see John very hesitant to give a "yes" answer. He just kind of stares and eventually nods, Haha.
I was seven years old at this broadcast
"The Goldbergs" started out in radio in 1929. At this stage of her career, Gertrude Berg was celebrating her 25th anniversary in the entertainment business, and CBS made the unusual move (in those days, it was rare for a celebrity to "cross networks" to appear on a TV show) of allowing her to appear on "What's My Line?" as a mystery guest to help promote her show on the Dumont Television Network, which would cease network programming in 1955, and show sports programs until 1956 or 1957.
Interesting. Thanks for the fun fact!
Just started watching Mrs G. Goes to College, here in the UK, on the Talking Pictures Channel.
What an adorable lady.
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Today's CZcams Rerun for 2/8/16:
Here's a question for those of you who pay any attention to current pop culture-- does the current series "The Goldbergs" have anything whatsoever to do with Gertrude Berg's creation?
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Narvelan Coleman Some folks filled me on this in the Facebook group-- there's no connection to the original "The Goldbergs". I was told that the current series has that name because it's the name of the guy who created the series, and it's based on his family.
I find it surprising that the creators of the current day show were even allowed to use that title. The only thing I can figure is that Gertrude Berg's descendants did not renew the copyrights on her works.
BOAC was what they called the British national airline back then -- British Overseas Airways Corporation was known by its initials and BOAC with a logo appeared on the sides of their planes. It merged with another company, BEA (British European Airways) in 1974, and the resulting merged corporation took the name "British Airways" which is still well-known today. Probably not a bad renaming. There may have been people who didn't realize that "BOAC" was British, but it would be hard not to recognize "British Airways" as British. Not a bad thing that the Lord Mayor of Manchester came to New York to help inaugurate BOAC's new direct service form Manchester to New York in 1954 (they probably flew into Idlewild Airport as JFK International Airport was called then). Good publicity for BOAC and even better that the Lord Mayor could appear on WML -- and mention the new air service. Jetliners in 1954 existed, but weren't commonplace yet -- there were issues to be resolved. They were likely flying the Lockheed Constellation, which had four engines with propellers, and the first pressurized cabin of any airliner, which made flights much more comfortable for passengers and enabled the planes to fly at higher altitudes. (Jetliners finally came into use in 1958, four years after this episode of WML aired, and revolutionized commercial airline service.)
Actually BOAC was the first airline to introduce jets into passenger revenue service, introducing use of the de Havilland Comet in 1952. But the need for good publicity for BOAC couldn't have been much greater than in May 1954. The previous month, all of the Comets had been grounded. They had this rather dreadful propensity to crash. Apparently the frequent pressurization/depressurization cycles caused the thin aluminum alloy skin of the aircraft to develop cracks.
I also remember one of my science teachers telling the class that the British were ahead of us Yanks in the development of jet aircraft. But we caught up and passed them because they used square windows instead of the round ones we used. It was part of his lesson on how stresses tend to gather at corners of a flat surface. And indeed, that was where the cracks in the skin began: at the corners of the windows.
When Boeing flew its 367-80 (707 prototype) for the first time in 1954, the U.S. took the lead. This aircraft introduced the swept wing design to commercial aviation (Comets used straight wing design). Even so, it took 4 more years before the first 707's were put into service (by Pan Am) as airlines were leery of jets and Douglas was the first manufacturer they looked to for adding to or upgrading their fleet. Douglas's first passenger jet, the DC-8, also was put into revenue service for the first time in 1958 (Pan Am bought both 707's and DC-8's. It was unheard of at the time for an airline to buy competing aircraft from competitors simultaneously. I guess they figured that if one was a lemon, they's still have a jet fleet.
And yes, the transcontinental flights came into Idlewild, with flight paths that often went directly over the house I grew up in until age 8. We could not only hear them, when a plane went overhead and we were watching TV, it would interfere with the picture Those were the days of adjusting the "rabbit ears" antenna on top of our Dumont television set.
Didn’t we all learn about flying in from Miami Beach BOAC from the Beatles?
I'm so used to seeing Gertrude Berg as Molly with her house dresses and apron--so odd to see her in a mink stole with pearls and silk gloves 😊--regardless she was an amazing woman RIP
Interesting that they thought she might be Peggy Wood, of "I Remember Mama". They were two contemporary shows that took place on opposite coasts, involved different ethnic groups and sold different brands of coffee but were other wise very similar. You can see episodes of each on You-Tube.
You must be referring to the CBS TV series, "Mama", which was based around 1900, and was a very popular TV series during the early-1950s. Unfortunately, videotape was not invented until 1956, and there are not a lot of kinescopes of that show that exist.
@@LaptopLarry330 Yes. The movie it was based on was called "I remember Mama. Here are some You-Tube links to 'Mama': czcams.com/users/results?search_query=Mama+Peggy+wood
Also: both 'Mama' and 'The Goldbergs' were on from 1949-1957!
I dismember mama
The mystery guest segment ran for so long in this episode that there was no final, unfamous contestant. John Daly filled in the final minutes with more talking with the famous guest and the show ended smoothly. I hope that the person waiting to go on got another chance to appear - it must be nerve-wracking to wait and then to not be called for.
Her grandson was the actor Adam Berg who changed his name to Adam Williams and was feautured in North By Northwest as one of the bad guys. Williams made numerous appearances on The Rifleman, and he won the coveted Navy Cross as a fighter pilot in WWII. He played the part of a flier in Flying Leathernecks...Maurice H Bank
Will always remember Williams' supporting role in the classic Twilight Zone episode, "Going My Way."
Adam Berg was born in 1922, and Gertrude Berg was born in 1899. He couldn't have been her grandson.
No relation between Gertrude and Adam Williams. The latter was married to Carole Berg, but I could find no connection between Carole and Gertrude.
Sorry, Wikipedia listed him as her grandson. He did though change his name from Goldberg to Williams. He also won the coveted Navy Cross as a fighter pilot in WW2. Quite an accomplishment.. Maurice HBank
Dorothy: "No, I'm not!"
John (gesturing with hands): "I didn't do anything."
Moral of the story: do NOT irritate a woman who recently gave birth! 😄
I love Gertrude Berg. Yooo-Hooo!!
Faye Emerson asked if the accent used on television by the mystery guest was from the North of Europe. I think she must have had in mind "Mama" (1949-1957), the half-hour TV sitcom based on the stage play and film "I Remember Mama". In the TV series, the title character, Marta Hansen, was a Norwegian-American immigrant played by Peggy Wood. So my guess an accent from "the north of Europe" referred to Mama Marta Hansen's Norwegian accent.
I love that Steve recognized that there were many funny women in 1954 🙌🙌🙌💪
Molly's accent is brilliant.. and flawless!
Mr. Moss was the 8th known regular guest from a foreign country.
He was also the 6th mayor as a “line.”
The 5th time all panelists stood to shake hands.
Steve said “good night, boys” for 27th time.
Good god almighty.
Those are cool stats!
Never let it be said that CZcams does not lead to learning new things, because I confess, I have never heard of The Goldbergs or Gertrude Berg. (I suspect this was in part because of Phillip Loeb's getting caught up in the blacklist. In any case, clearly a shocking lapse in my pop-culture education.) Since Mrs. Berg is a) a radio pioneer, b) funny, c) a pioneering writer, d) someone who did not avoid talking about the (Jewish) immigrant experience, and e) kind of amazing, I have a lot to look forward to exploring. (The fact she apparently wrote the scripts by pencil for about 25 years is quite something.)
Bennett came out from behind the table for her, no less! (Also, the ladies stood up.)
Also: A picture of Mr. Fogel's anti-snoring device, through the somewhat difficult-yet-useful auspices of newspapers.com.
www.newspapers.com/newspage/55329555/
The link leads to nowhere
juliansinger Thank you, the link works great for me
It's been a while since the last time I watch these episodes. Right now watching all of the episodes wih Gertrude Berg. It will be the Anniversary of her birthday 10-3-1899
I’m always wondering what Mr C. Daly n Mr.B. Cerf are wearing in their hair when I was in my mid teens I used to wear Yardley Brilliantine it had a wonderful aroma healed your hair in place n shined
John had a toupee, Cerf had hair dye😊
An old home-remedy sort of anti-snoring device was a large button, or similar uncomfortable device, sewn onto the back of the pajamas - the thinking was such would force people to sleep on their side, and not sleep on the back, as some thought snoring occurred only when one slept on their back...unfortunately, my family loudly snored regardless of sleeping position.
"Investigations in Washington" - I believe Bennett is referencing the Army-McCarthy Hearings.
Wow another one that made me look up something from recent history. That guy who sells "anti- snoring device" i had to look up when CPAP machines were invented (apparently 1980). So now i need to look up what sort of contraption he was peddling in 1954!
I thought it was CPAP.
@@mehboobkm2018 chin strap to keep your mouth closed😅
Interesting that they used "Molly Goldberg", the name of the character played by Gertrude Berg, instead of the actress's actual name. Rather like "Charley Weaver" on "The Hollywood Squares", a comedic character played by actor Cliff Arquette, I think. (I note that I hadn't heard of either Gertrude Berg or "Molly Goldberg" prior to seeing this episode of WML.)
Gertrude Berg was so closely identified with the character, which she also created and wrote the scripts for the programs, it was difficult for the public to know her as anything else at this time. She had been playing the character, first on radio, pretty much non-stop since Nov. 1929, almost 25 years when this show aired.
What a strong and lovely voice The Lord Mayor has 💖💯
Thanks, Larry, for the info on Gertrude Berg.
I'm I the only one who thinks the 1st guest looks like that old man from the cartoon movie UP!
Well I was just wondering!
Faye is clearly nervous here in the introductions; first she wishes that Dorothy was here (instead of the vacationing Arlene) then compares Bennett's lecture touring around the country to the travels of a candidate for the U.S. Senate, who of course needs to campaign in one state only.
True, the voters are (almost) all in one state, but potential donors are in many states
Dorothy knew what the limey guy did as soon as he appeared.
Dorothy was a investigative reporter for years😊
20:10 John missed a "no" here.
Wow, I didn't know that piece of info about "The Goldbergs". If Gertrude Berg had lived enough, she would have probably had stints on Fox and UPN, too.
On second thought. . . probably not.
Lol I can snore with my mouth closed , not as easily though.
I remember watching the Goldbergs as a kid..Early 1950's..
Two things: Gertrude Berg was obviously having a great deal of fun doing this. Like all comedians/comediennes, she was humble about whether or not she was funny.
Second, was Faye Emerson not married to Mitch Miller later?
+corner moose No, she was married to Skitch Henderson, one-time band leader for Johnny Carson.
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I must have been confused by the beard. That and the similarity of the names.
That's what I thought. Easy enough mistake to make.
She was married to Skitch Henderson at one point, but he got into trouble w/some underage girls & that was that.
An "anti-snoring device" MIGHT be prescribed by a doctor, because snoring can be a symptom of sleep apnea, which is a serious disorder. Long-term snoring increases the risk of health problems, including: decreased blood oxygen levels.
Sleep apnea was first mentioned in medical literature in 1965, although the condition was recognized long before the medical causes were known.3 In the 1950s and 1960s, researchers took a deeper look at sleep apnea, eventually discovering that the problem was actually due to a person not breathing properly during sleep. Sleep apnea research really intensified in the 1970s, with dogs being the initial test subjects for proposed treatments.
@@marciadiehl5733 Doesn't being overweight increase the chance of experiencing sleep apnea ?
@@Baskerville22 I don't know. I know a person who isn't overweight who has sleep apnea.
It may be more prevalent in obese persons, but I don't think it is the rule completely.
You do know this was 70 years ago don't you@@marciadiehl5733
It's so funny reading the comments here because I have NEVER even heard of Gertrude Berg...
Get used to it if you continue to watch WML! It ends up being somewhat educational!
Over 90 years ago😊
Faye Emerson was once married to president Roosevelt's son Elliot Roosevelt.
She was the third of his five wives; marriage lasted five years.
I've never noticed the... severity... of the part in Daly's hair before. That's really something....
John Daly had a complicated and very noticeable comb-over going on to try to conceal his male pattern baldness. I always notice it in every episode, though I like him so much I'm willing to dismiss any disapproval of it on my part. I think he's so likeable as the moderator of WML that his rather outrageous comb-over isn't so bad, all things considered.
Seems the piece from front to back could be a toupée...?
Aaron Sakulich Severity? It could stop a bullet!
I just noticed it really for the first time in this episode
The first thing I noticed on the first episode I ever watched was John's part in his hair that seemed to defy gravity! I thought, "Why in the world would anyone part his hair to such an extreme far left??" Somehow, it never occurred to me that he was covering a bald spot!
I love it and believe it is very nice of John Daily to flip some extra cards to give a constant more money because a panel, especially Dorthy who seems to love showing off how smart she can be, guessed their line early, before earning much money. True class.
Dorothy played the game to win. This quite incidentally showed off how smart (and informed) she was. It was up to John to feel sorry for the contestant and flip the cards.
Bennett Cerf and Martin Gabel both did this multiple times, but no one criticizes them. It left time to actually talk with the MG.
Dorothy was a investigative reporter for years 😊
16:00 Huh - they credited her as Molly Goldberg, but she signed her real name. Has that happened before; the actor being identified on camera as her fictional character?
How come they never ask the men if they're married, but always ask the women?
Because married or unmarried, a gentleman is addressed with the honorific of “Mr.” For the ladies, it is the difference between “Mrs.” And “”Miss”. Very civilized.
The old method of intro was ridiculous: asking where someone was from; feeling hands and arms; looking at suit labels. I'm surprised Dorothy didn't throw them against a wall and frisk them!
They did this to get clues of what type of work a person did. Majority of jobs 70 years ago were manual physical work😊
MANUFACTURES ANTI-SNORING DEVICE
LORD MAYOR OF MANCHESTER, ENGLAND
20:10 she got a NO and just continued... major fail, John
I notice at times Daly wasn't paying attention 😅
Max fogel looked like my grandfather
In these early years it seems that expensive adornments such as minks etc were worn purely as a sign of wealth and status, which is quite sad from an animals point of view.
Gertrude Berg, and most of the panel (with the exception of Faye Emerson) started out their careers in the 1920s and early-1930s. They were all part of the New York "Establishment" during that era, and achieving and retaining wealth and status was an important thing for people to do at that time, because competition for dominance in business and entertainment and media in the New York City market, the largest market in America, was very fierce. And like today in social media on the Internet, rumors and innuendo was spread like wildfire in newspapers and magazines and radio and early-TV programs. It was very important for celebrities and socialites and businesspeople to "control the narrative", to make sure that people received the messages that they wanted the general public to hear and see.
15:30 - 15:35 - what is Mayor Moss saying? All I can get it "Yes, I think it'll be very nice for us to be able to come together, so much "
I think he said, "...so much the quicker."
It's May and Berg is wearing a fur??
Gertrude Berg was celebrating her 25th anniversary in the entertainment industry. The TV ratings for her TV show, "The Goldbergs", were falling, and there may have been rumors in the entertainment press that Berg was near bankruptcy. Gertrude Berg may have worn this formal dress and fur coat to let the public know that this was not the case.
15:59 Who?