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Non warrior mates: "Dude you have 2 charges leap 30 sec cd, two bladestorms and rally to escape roots" ... Reality....😢
yeah its complete shit i quit this
Nailed it
Well just thibk how bad paladins have it haha.
only bad players and adhd 1500 warlocks thinks its a good toolkit in reality you are getting knocked around like a ball on a football field and every other melee has a better toolkit not to mention nowadays everyone has a mortal strike so RIP Warriors tbh blizzard just hates them with a passion for some reason
2v2 is very specific cause you have 1 healer and 1 dps most of the time and if both DPS go healers well the healer will just AFK around a pillar, it's not just warrior that has this problem it's probably like half of the classes.
3v3 and solo shuffle are a totally different story cause you cant just run around a pillar like that anymore and getting away from a warrior with freedom on him or a fistmonk + warrior is just impossible, the warrior is almost 24/7 on you. Also if you are a caster doing that you are dealing 0 DMG.
He could have just gone warrior and force the shaman to come to him and swap, he didnt have to run around a pillar for 5mins lol.
This has been my entire experience to 1900 so far in 2v2. Think arms needs longer arms so we can smack through pillars lol
Guess they should've keep classic tauren feature in the retail:D
@@pyromanglad1136 That's what I'm saying
@@pyromanglad1136 Bring back race superiority in WoW lool
“Am I old 🧐? I mean I am “old”” 😂😂
5:58 @Bajheera You did press reflect there. I'm pretty sure disarm doesn't let your reflect since you don't have a "shield" after getting disarmed.
Yes indeed! 👍🏼
what addon do you use, this is so clean?
Straight Alt - F4’d out of there LOL
Hey man, would u prefer a haste heavy Arms build or more stacked mastery? Have u tried out a more crit based build? have some crit pieces atm and don´t know what stat to focus or jsut even all out. Even the versatility is kinda high. The new 40% are the old 30%? Would really apreciate your thougts, thanks alot =)
I’m duelist with arms atm. I pref like 7k ish versatility because more than that you lose stat efficiency from diminishing returns, then the rest of stats somewhat split with main focus on haste
Hi, nice video! which addons are those that display damage done (nice yellow numbers and letters), and name plates as well?
Think he's using Threat Plates. He has UI videos. D
amage numbers is ingame function, think he's just changed the font (wowhead has article "Changing Standard WoW Fonts for Readability and Style").
Love the 2 v 2 vids!
Anyone know the font/addon for his damage numbers ?
Was hilarious to see the other warrior doing the same exact thing to his healer 😭
that ring around the rosey was hilarious lmao
Guys i would like to know the a addon he is using for dmg numbers pls :D
I yelled lets go irl when you killed the warrior lol
What is the addon that shows casted spells next to the nameplate
Need it too
its a weakaura try google it idk the name
LMFAO at the offline
Couldn't your druid cyclone the warrior and try to get off a root on the shaman for you or does he need those to kite the other warrior?
Man...good to see that I haven't missed a goddamn thing.
Im not playing this xpac so i may be out of touch... could you not just go on the warrior instead of playing pillar games with the sham?
The mount to catch him made me laugh my ass off
Can I get your threat plates profile please?
Anyone can tell me what addons hes using ? Like cc heal sound and others, please !
BigDebuffs, TidyPlates, WeakAuras, OmniCD, etc.
They need to add back where the pillars go up and down would fix the issue with pillar camping
And if you stay on it for 30 seconds it shoots you off
This game is dominated by melee classes pressing W key, we need pillars to survive... maybe you havent noticed but the moment he connected the Shamans health just dropped.
As a classic era player this looks insane
i want to get into pvp, but honestly, the pillar-hugging was the biggest turn-off in WoD, and preciously little has changed since then.
A lot has changed, there is a lot of micro cc in the game. What you are seeing is shaman goofiness and that's all lol.
pillar hugging is literally what you are supposed to do lol.. if you just sit in the middle when someone has pressure on you, you just die, so not going to the pillar is a misplay, but in this case its just cringe game design the shaman should never be able to infinitely kite around the pillar
@@millerl0l71 i am well aware, it also is and incredibly tedious and boring gameplay style, which is why i droped pvp entirely
I was in a 2v2 back in the day, my partner died and I just played pillar huggingin until the game ended, no one of us won lol
Imagine subscribing to a game to chase ppl around a pillar. Apex of gameplay isn't it
arms vs rsham has always been like this to me
That was one of the arena matches of all time.
You need to swap to enemy war then switch back
arms feels weak on live and on the tournament realm. another season another pain as an arms war
Yea but for some reason there's always 30+ arms warriors that manage to get gladiator despite the terrible nerfs so I dont know if it's really the specs fault
@@user-zh2tt5cv7b nice argument and come back. Try again
@@user-zh2tt5cv7bYoure right its not. Theres just levels to this shit
as a dh i see no problem
What is that nameplate addon hes using?
Threat plates
@@syxqid3818 you rock thanks
Ahhhh yes,!!! This is deff the best pvp type game ever made... yes yes! This is awesome ..... lmfao wow arena is pure cancer. Over 70 stacks of dampening ???! Lmao
stick to pve or random bgs if you cant handle my boy it's just that simple
Watching warriors mald is cathartic. May you RP walk for eternity.
Yep that’s warrior gameplays 😅😢
Pillars in arena great idea. Terrain should change mid fight.
Im laughing so hard omg
Blizz will add a 3rd charge CD to warrior, and another several stuns/roots to the other classes to compensate. Every class has everything in some capacity in wow now. It's so bloated with abilities, class identity is just the "name" of your cc/dmg abilities. Because everyone has them. Some slightly different/stronger/weaker. But every class has SOMETHING, tbh several outs. Gone are the days of relying on your teammates, and playing accordingly. New age of zero coms, so give everyone every button. Warrior suffers the most from this. Warrior identity used to be "oh fuck, don't stand anywhere near this guy, or let him stand anywhere near your squishy teammates." Now it's "lol, just cc/pillar him" regardless of class. People hate working together, complain on the forums, thus overtime, blizz has made every class self reliant, which hurts warriors the most. You have less reliable uptime/pressure on anyone with a brain, compared to any other class in the game. Warriors closing a gap is meaningless now a days. The enemy will have several ways to kite/slow/knockback/stun, AND defensives at the ready for when you DO close the gap. Then if their team isn't braindead and assists with peel, it will be a miserable for the warrior. The whole game is tracking CD's for 10+ minutes and hoping for some lucky time when they don't have a single button to press out of the 30 buttons they normally have.
Almost 0 spec Identity either, all shaman specs seem to have the same Cc available to them in the shaman tree or pvp talents instead of the spec tree.
@@Earthfurry717 spec identity kek
@@kyoden1928 Yeah, every spec of every class seems to have the same shit. RESTO shamans are putting me in a totem, and dragging me across the map into a cap totem stun and a lasso...
@@Earthfurry717 thats fine, its a new wow idc if everyclass has similar spells all i want is decent fun pvp, if i want spec identity just to fail miserable i'd wait for legion classic xd
@@kyoden1928 You're not going to have decent fun pvp when every spec of every class has the same 15 cc abilities.
Riveting. Can’t wait for more defensives and mobility in the next expansion.
This is peak gameplay 😂😂😅
this is happen since tbc lol so much crying 😂
What in gods name is that weakaura or addon for the totems
Its a widget from ThreatPlates, an addon for nameplates
watching this is making not regret not really touching 2s XD
We had two rogues time us out the other day, 0 dmg. We just decided to leave the game to be able to play.
I wonder why you didnt just mount up :D
cause he had to make the clip
Baj that was hilarious!! They really need to rework wow at this point, like a complete redo!!
Why all of wow? Many parts of wow are doing fine. PvP isnt the whole game.
@@WelsyCZ There's too much shit in the game and that extends outside of pvp. They need to redo WoW, give all classes 10-12 abilities max, and slow the game the down. It's doing "fine" in it's current iteration, but the only people saying that are players who survived through 10-15 years of bad development and are mainly veteran players chugging along. The average age of a WoW player is almost 30 lol The game in it's current iteration is way too complex of a game to draw new players and is shaping up to die a slow death. It's not sustainable.
War Within should be the last set of expansion for the game as we know it. It needs a brand new IP.
@@IamMaximumFury Sorry, youre just making shit up and youre coming out with takes that are completely unreasonable. Do you even play the game?
The subscription numbers are highest in years, clearly the game is doing good. PvP is struggling but thats not the whole game.
@@WelsyCZ Me saying the playerbase is aging isn't unreasonable. The information is out there, go look it up. I'm just stating a fact.
The sub numbers are up because Dragonflight isn't a bad expansion among expansions released in the last 10-15 years. That doesn't mean problems don't exist. The inability for wow to draw new players and an aging playerbase directly demonstrate that. WoW IS a complex unapproachable game to people who have no experience with it. If you can't see that that doesn't make me unreasonable, that makes you delusional.
@@IamMaximumFury Changing wow to a game with 10 buttons completely changes the game. This take about the game having 10-15 buttons was disproved by quite a few players/streamers, because it simply wouldnt work with the current gamemodes.
Balance was always made considering 3v3. Therefore, "state of -anything-" on 2v2 is not to be considered
I'll tell ya what baj, pro noob tip, play with a fistweaver 😅
This is the main reason I stopped playing retail :(
cause u cant deal with classic kitting lol? maybe your problem was just pvp xd
Everyone in the comments.
1. It's a 2v2, not a 1v1 1v1, this is happening for many reasons. The Rdrood can get a restealth, forcing the Fury warrior to attack Baj, the druid can then open with a Back clone on the enemy healer, or Bash the enemy healer for Baj to kill, and root the warrior off him. I force the enemy Dps to leave my pillar because he can't touch me all the time, unless he's a Dh.. I'm sure Baj is aware of this.
2. Healers aren't "Too Strong" with all the damage and micro cc in the game, if it wasn't for Precog, it would be impossible to heal in general. Dampening is also a thing for a reason.
3. Healers DO use mana. Some classes retain better than others, these people are also drinking and getting micro drinks whenever possible.
4. Removing healers from 2s is the dumbest idea ever.
5. Removing pillars from 2s is the second dumbest idea ever.
Baj isn't advocating for any of this, It's just a perfect shot and funny video highlighting the epitome of 2s. Some of you DPS players think you should just be able to run me down in a 4x4 open map and Mortal Strike my face for free, while all my abilities cost 25% of my mana and heal for 0.
I think most of the people talking shit about 2s has actually never played them
90% of the people who commented this forced clip btw, are so much obvious that they dont play 2s2 or pvp at all... Imagine some people was saying that "now arenas take forever" when the dampening it's more fast and agressive than ever before 😂
This comment is why no one plays WoW anymore. Sure you can explain it all…but none of that stuff you wrote explains why that’s supposed to be fun.
@@guyy6800 if you dont find the game fun then you shouldn't playing it my boy lol
@@guyy6800 Not every part of every game is fun. It's competitive Pvp, making it unfun for your enemy is what both teams are doing,
Sup guys warrior player here, I’m actually just never going to swap targets. I’m also not going to stop drop combat and mount, nor will I press leap + charge. In fact I think I’ll run in a circle doing nothing while complaining endlessly about it.
God warrior players are insufferable
This is why I stopped playing my warr and just hopped on the DH.
Bro, now I'm playing warrior, could u please tell me how I can avoid all this warrior problem if I will switch to dh? From my perspective dh will have the same issue as warriors have, but maybe I'm wrong, cause I don't know dh well.
@@BohdanUdovychenko no meele has this problem really man bajhera here it's just forcing the clip lol
Games like these makes you wish they'd bring back moving pillars.
Game is over pray sod has a good future
Imagine playing melee in a game where casters have so much control. Melee is legit a frustration simulator 😂 play casters guys , else you'll get melee rage brain.
Is this called pvp ? damn
I just want mana to be a thing again for healers I’ll deal with the rest of the bull shit
mana is a thing .... what are you talking about ? what kind of out of touch opinion is that ?
@@TheRobochicken5494 out of touch??? Your silly go away scab 😂
@@TheRobochicken5494 In PVP?? I think you're mistaken lol.
Tell you what, go through this video, and every time a healer reaches 50% mana, I'll give you $50 sound good? It really doesn't matter as much in PVP because the mana regen is too high while spell costs really aren't that high, made even worse by the fact that just about every healing class has some kind of ability to speed around pillars and just kite in 2s.
@@blindfire3167 5:45, his healer is below half.
@@blindfire3167 I have 8 Holy Paladins. In 3s one of us going OOM is a thing, I'm getting drinks constantly when I can. I alot of the time I don't go OOM, is because I'm drinking to make sure of it. Same as 2s. Demo locks are popular right now and they just play an annoying dampen comp, they also nerfed my classes mana usage and regen like 4 times in the past 3 patches.
The problem is you don't see Hpallies, you see Rdroods, who all play Nelf and get free Shadowmeld drinks. Rsham uses like 0 mana, and same for dragons. Disc and Hpally aren't huge right now so the mana fight is extended when you're playing with classes that retain mana better. Healers drink though.
I dont see why warrs cant just passively walk like 10% faster, warriors are all about strength and being strong and they walk at a brisk age 90 pace
warrior is the most basic outdated out of tune with the game class
Wondering when Baj will swap to put out more dam with consistent cc.. but these are pro players 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
ikr he's forcing the clip so bad lol
Sound of Bajheera lately while playing, wonder how long before he moves on to a better game.
Wow is fine. He also plays a ton of other games.👍🏽
@@dustinmorgan682 wow is not fine 😂
@Furiousprimex96 yes it is. People like you will just always find something to cry about. I've been playing for a long time. I played when it was at its worst. It is in a good spot ATM and devs are actively listening to player feedback. You are just doing what player such as yourself will always do.. cry and complain about the state of the game even when the devs implement what the players are crying about yall just find something new to cry about. If you don't like it, stop playing it and stop watching all content involved with the game.
@@dustinmorgan682 you can’t say shit to someone who spent their money on a game I can complain and say what I want to 😭 now drown on these tears since you losers say “cry” to every lil thing someone gotta say about the game
@@Astrox326 the only person crying is you. You are incapable of being satisfied. I'm sure your spouse and family love that. No matter how much devs listen to the player base and make changes around what people want, there will always be insufferable cry babies such as you who bring nothing to the community except negativity. No games are perfect and for some reason you and other negative Nancy's out there expect this game, that is constantly changing, to be perfect in every way. It's unrealistic standards. The devs are listening to the player base and making changes in accordance to make the most amount of people happy at a time but all you want to do is cry about things that are miniscule.
Where’s your munt
ngl.... this gave me anxiety...
the screen shaking when u attack is very irritating to watch
Shaman and Druid players have always been losers. It’s funny because those two classes 100% cry more than any other class even though they’re perma 80% move speed and flying around untouchable haha. Not to mention Moonkin having like 300% armor for no reason.
That seemed like a very annoying match but you won eventually.
game is bad but i cant stop playing help
You play like you're 1300 rating. Brain dead chasing, no tactics, just tunnel. I need to come back and play if this is what the quality of player is like.
Tactics? "Braindead chasing" Is all he needed to do to win there.
he's forcing the clip
I'll just throw it out there again (just my opinion), but healers and tanks shouldn't be in 2s. It makes games completely unfun and ridiculous since you don't even get gladiator rewards from it. DPS needs a pure dps play mode without the ridiculous stuff like this, where mobility and survivability just clown certain classes. Nothing about this type of gameplay is fun, nor is it interesting to watch. Just give dps a pure dps ladder without glad rewards if nothing else. Let chaos reign already.
This happens when you make all classes even and balanced against each other 🤣
Ohh good lord Blizzard thank you for ruin the gameplay😂
lmao both warriors just sniffing pillar all game
there's a reason why they removed titles from 2v2, absolute meme bracket
Solo Shuffle is a bigger meme and it has titles :(
@@Earthfurry717 I agree shuffle is a bigger meme but it’s not the same title and doesn’t come with a reward. nobody cares about legend. If they wanna do the same thing with 2s bracket then so be it.
@@bearcatcow Rank1 for Solo in your spec is respectable though. Unless you're a tank.
Havent played Arena since Wotlk but this made me way more angry than it should have.
In woltk druid and sham kitting was waaaaaaayyy worse lol
@@memofreire I honestly doubt it.
This whole xpac has been anti warrior discrimination. From the Sopranos 😅
But in all seriousness i don't think ive ever been more frustrated playing a warrior. Too many things factor how you play now.
Can play Ret/Warrior for Freedoms or with a Hpally in 2s
QUESTION :!
Why didn't you just use heroic leap to leap behind the pillar, then use Charge to get to him?
After like 5 seconds of him pillar circling, you'd think you'd have just done that instead of wasting time circling.
Depending on the rating, he probably figured that he would Earthbind totem as he leaped. I think just he was just highlighting the comedy of the situation before mounting to him which is much easier than use all your mobility just to be denied anyhow.
because he's forcing the clip for content(?)
To be fair it’s not only warriors that have trouble chasing shamans and druids around pillars.
In fact as a shadow priest I have to pray they get overconfident and let me cc them out of the pillar
this just made me so sick to watch smh
Lmao!
That was painful to watch.
there's no reason to 2v2 still exists.
This is why I quit wow
cause u cant deal with kitting? You just have to quit pvp bro 😂
“Am I old ?” No, the game is, Old and Broken. Shield reflect is so broken, it doesnt reflect half the spells in this game. It doesnt reflect mage's frost nova or shama's new totem. It's so lame. The state of pvp is so lame rn, fights take forever and nobody dies, so much healing.
Shield reflect never reflected aoe spells like frost nova dude tf are you talking about... fights take forever and nobody dies? Dampening is more fast and agressive that never before and every spec can solo bursting a healer right now hahahah man if you dont play pvp stop talking nonsense 😂 so funny 😂
so you are telling me that after you run around the pillar for two minutes, you decide to leave combat, mount, connect, bladestorm nothing and end up getting rooted again with no escapes? please explain
Not a fan of 2s meta with healers, they're strong in general, wish 2s was just dps only though. But they will never limit roles, but healer can be quite strong.
Warriors roll over and die without a healer
arena is traaaaash
1st in the chat
PvP is such a clown content and its not even close..
Wow. Game looks super shit lmfao.
PvP is dead
This looks fucking awful lmao
If yal think its bad in arenas go do rbgs or just normal random bgs and blitz. You dam near can't play the game due to all the multiple ccs and stuns that is used on you. Instead of fixing this problem blizzard instead just gives more ccs and stuns........Game has become a cc/stun game instead of knowing when to use your stuns and ccs and when not to use them.
I only get spam cc'd by decent/good teams. Most the time it's not that bad as a healer. I'm just talking about Clone spams. I know if you're in melee, you're just going to get hit with Chaos Nova, Capacitor Totem, Displacement that wasn't even meant for you, into an Aoe fear lol
they need to take out pillars
Looks so much fun…… arena matches shouldn’t last that long. Who ever gets bored first loses lol
I cannot agree more with you, these small pillars are stupid design
But also you can just Leap + Charge...
Coz u just dont play 2v2 as warr or healer and dps...go 2 proper dps cc and u win them all😂
False 😂
You don't play WoW do you...