This Chain Driven Zenith is a Hyperwatch Bargain
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- In 2014, the watchmaker Zenith was busy preparing its 150th anniversary celebration, and what better way to do it than by building a commemorative watch. But Zenith didn’t just take an existing watch and tart it up a bit, oh no. It decided to build a rather insane hyperwatch instead. Here’s what you need to know about it.
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This may well be the best value high-horology watch available - and 15 minutes ago, I never knew it even existed.
thanks Andrew!
I'm a mechanical engineer. This watch blew my mind. My first time as well. Jus marvelous.
Low key watch
Next, they will make it run on steam.
@@MarttiSuomivuori This that your attempt at humour?🙄🙄
@@leftsidem5030 degenerate
This one is really exceptional!
If a Daytona cost's 39000, this one has to be around one million in comparison.
“Does it have a SRAM groupset”. Ahh that was amazing.
The amount of external reference you pile in these never ceases to amaze.
Dura ace di2
@@philjones6449 SRAM eTap 4life. ;D
My two hobbies United
@@alphaquiorem2556 I know, right?🤯
@@philjones6449 Shimanos are the shit man
The little chip in the "E" of ZENITH logo kept making me cringe because everything else from the closeups looked fantastic (especially the polished chain and chain pin ends!). If I spent that much on one, I'd send it back to have the E touched up or repaired cause after seeing it look chipped, it would bother me so much.
What are You talking about? There is not a chiped "E"
@@gerardo9052 check 1:54
And @ 1:36.
Definitely would send it back for a service and get that E sorted out. That anomaly would irritate no end!
This is the 'freckle' on the face of a super model, perfect in every way, but for a single mark of distinction.
Absolutely stunning. In 1905 my grandmother bought a Zenith pocket watch for my grandfather while in Switserland. She died when I was 10 and I got the watch. My first Zenith. In the '60s my father bought his first golden Zenith while in Switserland, when he died I got his watch. My second Zenith. Whe I got my first decent job, I bought myself an El Primero. My 3rd Zenith. After that, I started collecting watches of all kinds and brands but Zenith is still my favorite!
What a beautiful tradition.
Stunning. My brother has one of my grandfather's old clocks; a brass enamel faced, chain driven ships clock. My grandfather was a German watch and clock maker. My father trained as a watch and clock maker. As a child, I remember him repairing and building watches. My brother and I adore fine watches. I guess it's in the blood.
Congrats on your experienced …that would be nice…
5:00
Actually, it would be rather amazing if someone made a watch that did change gears on a chain. Hyper miniaturized cassette and derailleur system would be epically epic.
Rollhoff speedhub. Nearly that cool.
Epically epic?
This has to rank right up there with some of the best content on this channel. Simply brilliant photography and as usual just the right amount of dry humour. "...as rare as pigeon poop at Trafalgar Square" almost destroyed my PC! Anyone who has been to Trafalgar Square will know right away why I nearly inhaled my complete head, ears, nose and all.
Very trying. Invest in a pen and notepad!
Absolutely stunning watch but I can't stop looking at the small blemish on the E in Zenith @1:54. Let's not forget it's an 80K watch, you can't have imperfections on the logo!
Yep, and still there at other locations. I believe it was limited to 150 pieces and you’d assume someone would have examined each with magnification before leaving the factory.
Exactly, going on and on about the perfection of every surface and there is something on the 2nd letter of your brand. It can’t just be dust or something either right? You see it from different angles.
That chip on the E is driving me crazy
Me too, I suspect that’s the reason why the original owner is trying to sell this piece
Dear god I watched the video on 360p because I was outdoors and still noticed that.... imagine that being your watch... I mean handcrafted and all but still.. can't unsee that
I love my Zenith watches but that's a no.
Thanks for mentioning it as a fanboy I might have tried to unsee it... 👌
a chip....welcome to collecting, ya little crap will drive you insane....but.....if you repair it, the watch will lose half its value!!...its called time patina....leave it...people like me love it....time patina or color changes add value to a vintage watch...
Same 😢
I would be proud to wear this on my wrist. Wonderful.
Here here
After a few weeks home with sick kids, I’m all for selling the children and upgrading to something significantly more well made!
Lol, yes. Where do I exchange them for this beauty.
This possibility has suddenly, completely, altered my view of the world. 🤯
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Try not feeding them dairy(unless mother's milk for infant of course).
No milk no cheese no Joghurt..
Not saying it's a cure for sure but try it
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The tiny chip on the "E" in Zenith can't be unseen though.
Right, it goes straight to the eye. Or the E ……
I saw it and now I cant stop looking at it.
I would bet you that one call to the Zenith offices, saying that you found this on you watch and they'll rather break their fingers than let you run around with a chipped E
For anyone looking for it, it’s at 1:49. You can also notice some imperfections on the seconds hand. Although it is at high magnification. But I bet the chip in the E is still visible with the naked eye, though.
Yes that watch should be send back to be reworked for 80k. This is not seiko territory.
A watch that actually has a valid reason for cutouts on the dial, beautiful piece.
First time I've even seen a modern watch that is chain driven. Last watch I've seen that was chain driven was a 1730's pocket watch. Really enjoyed this one! Brilliant work as usual.
The 45mm is the problem.
45mm is for legs.
I absolutely love fusee and chain movements. They are undeniably some of the most beautiful and decadent approaches to timekeeping. However all of the currently existing fusee and chain options are housed in cases that are either too wide, too thick, or both. This is a deal killer for me as one of the basic criteria I look for in a timepiece is comfort and wearability, which is mostly about size and thickness/thinness. I would hope that one day perhaps FP Journe or Bulgari takes up the challenge to create a thin, wearable fusee and chain timepiece.
I could never own this, but I must say, the maintenance on such a fine chain must be one heck of a task even on it's own
Best narration on CZcams, if you were an RPG character your speech level would be over 9000!
“Chain driven” or shaft drive...Are we taking about Ducati’s 🏍 or Zenith’s here?
How, in the name of God, did they manage to chip the paint on the E in Zenith on the seconds?
Damaged "E" in Zenith Logo is something you can't unsee. Shouldn't happen in such watch.
I dont believe that's factory flaw...almost every watch seen on thus channel has significant flaws/service damage.
yes very irritating
I agree, but apart from that it's perfect. "Irritating madness."
Where? I can't see it
@@gerardo9052 Pause at 1.50.
love this when it came out and still do. Something about that fusee chain mechanism is hypnotic, a complication in itself. Thanks for showing it 👍
This thing is amazing! I had the honor to actually hold one of these in my own hands as it was presented to the public back then. I still have the 150 years anniversary goodie box from Zenith!
What came in the goodie bag?
Yeah what came in the bag?
Zenith really upped the game with this one!! Well done!!
A genuinely impressive piece. The chain links are amazing. Best video I have seen for a good while.
been enjoying your videos for at least a year and a half now and this is the first watch I’ve truly desired. What a masterpiece. Thanks for the content mate, brings a smile to my face especially when you get a little funny 😄
An absolute masterpiece. Thank you Watchfinder for showing it.
I love this watch's technical design, and your video on it is very well done. But a 45mm case? That seems to drive it out of most people's wear range.
As a watch lover and MTB enthusiast, I appreciate your channel even more with the mention of the SRAM group set.
not everything is flawlessly executed, the chipped off E in ZENITH is hard to unsee.
I'd pay 5k for the blemished model.
@@BlackPhillip666 sure, but look at the E in Zenith at 1:26, not very hyperwatchy, surprised the QC missed it.
@@toobalkain @7:35 the blem could be additive, like a fleck or shaving, rather than a chip or missing font.
I think I just set my life's expectations a little higher. This is truly one of my favorite timepieces ever. What an inspired masterpiece.
*You failed to mention the most important technical aspect to this movement, and it's stairing you right in the face ! This is what is called a high frequency movement. The escapement beats at twice the normal beat (Tick) frequency, which is 4Hz or four "Ticks" per second. This movement is running at least 8 Hz or 8 "Ticks" per second running rate ! The more beats per second the escapement produces, the higher the accuracy of the movement. Also, with a higher beat rate the greater the friction and the "wear," of the movement. High frequency escapements, when combined with a high quality "Fuse" power delivery train, will produce much fewer variances in running speed !*
This watch is a 5hz watch and beats 36000 times per hour. People often get this wrong, but two pulses of the second hand are one oscillation.
It is high frequency, but not the highest. Breguet do a 10hz model of the type XXII, model. 3880, in which the chrono second hand moves twice as fast to allow you to take advantage of the accuracy. There are even faster ones.
@@loaded2820 Cool :) Do you have any links to these faster beat watches ?
@@markjob6354 there is a guy called Tim from the watchbox who uploads videos every day. He has at least two videos. The model you want to search is Breguet 3880.
@Skratch Rapture yeah, you have a 4 hertz watch. Each oscillation is two steps on the second hand. 4x2x60x60=28,800.
I had heard about this watch before and nearly forgot it's existance but thanks to your quality videos, it reminded me that it still exists :)
There is a spot on the "E" on the ZENITH logo, I can't unsee it
Zenith are so under-rated price wise which is good for us aficionados. A hundred times better than Rolex for a fraction of the price without all the AD bullshit. 👍👍👍
Yet LVMH package it to be a fashion brand. It has all those colour that splashes all over the place.
@@lipinglin1994 what colour splashes? This watch hasn't any colour apart from the gold used to make it.
@@pauln0371 I am talking about the entire line of watches Zenith makes. Don't get me wrong. Zenith produces great watches. My favorites are their A386 line. However, when you see the entire product line and how LVMH get their hands on the product, it just seems a bit too all over the top.
What a watch, a masterpiece of engineering. I have a ships chronometer working on the same chain torque technique but to shrink it down to this size is just amazing. It would be almost a shame to wear it, but I would love to, no harm in dreaming.
Every details less the "E" in Zenith... But truly remarkable
Wow beautiful. So much to learn, I find these unique drive pieces to be spectacular feats of engineering. Consider me behind, but the spring drive on the Grand Seiko blew my socks off. This is another level.
2:32 lol at 2:03 when I saw the E with a chipped paint spot. Only noticable when you are hyperzoomed on it though.
Don't bother calling to buy as it's already sold after that sales pitch! Great job Andrew. I'd be ticked off if I actually had the money to buy this gem, and missed out. 😁👍✌
Perfection, all right.. Except the obvious flaw in the 'E' in 'Zenith'.. The main logo. 😂
That bit of paint chipped off the E in Zenith would drive me mad.
Wow, OMG, absolutely gorgeous, beautiful, fantastic, awsome, insane, mind blowing, a watch with swaps cogs is just crazy man.... I've always had total respect for Zenith they just manufacture great quality watches but this is on another level.... Thank you, thank you so much ZENITH WATCH COMPANY, SANTA PLEASE LEAVE THIS MASTERPIECE UNDER MY TREE 🎅🎄👍
Possibly the best presentation this year! Well done Mr. talking hands
Excellent. That needle found the vein. Most pleasurable.
This might be the craziest watch I have ever seen, thank you so much for the opportunity to bring it into mine and many others realms.
Absolutely brilliant! I own a El Primero but this watch has me captivated! One of the best looking watches I have seen in many years! Like I said forget Richard Mille, there are tons of much nicer options in the Suisse watch word of wonders!
All it needs is some handle bars and thumb shift at the ready!
Zenith is also known for the Zenith Defy Inventor, which is the most accurate mechanical (and non-quartz) watch ever made. A chain is all well and good, but if it is supposed to result in improved accuracy it is only any use if it actually does result in higher accuracy. You didn't even mention the accuracy for this one.
Jeeze! Simply astounding! Why was there even one on sale pre-owned? I mean if you were lucky enough to have gotten your hands on one KEEP IT!
Quite seriously, had I watched this presentation earlier and known this was for sale, I would have bought it.
Just picked up a vintage Zenith 28800 automatic "disco volante" from a vintage dealer. It was - new old stock..so brand new and 45 years old. Absolutely cannot believe the quality of the watch and runs perfectly. I am a fan of Zenith now !
5:57 Interesting time to mention the high shine as there seems to be a surprising amount of pitting there (still would almost kill for this watch though)
That is one of the coolest watch designs I have seen! Thank you for bringing that to us!
I have two grail watches on my list. I hope to one day get one through Watchfinder because what I've learned through this channel over the years deserves my business.
This is only CZcams channel I go full screen for.
It's got a CVT transmissions
I am sooooo glad it is 45mm because if it was say, 40mm, I might be plundering my watchbox to trade up...
Was that a Zenith E camera at the start? Those things were indestructible. I swear I drove a nail in with one and still shot a roll of 35mm after
The "E' is killing me🧐🧐🧐🧐
Lay off the drugs man.
Absolutely stunning. I must confess, i like it. Compare to RG Logical one, the Zenith use normal sized hands. I am not so a mini dial lover where the main time can be read. Arnold and Sons use also normal sized hands for their constant force watches. The GP three bridges, so nice, i can look for 30 minutes at it when a picture displayed at a website.
I love this watch, and I just found out I live an hour away from their factory which can be visited, I'll take the tour and see what's up!
This watch is way, way, way out of my budget!
But I love it!
What a master piece of mechanical engineering!
I'm a citizen fan and have a small collection because I admire their technology and it's within my budget.
This zenith is just something else!👌
If I had kids, I would sell them for this watch.
What a beautiful piece to have. How about showing us something from Greubel Forsey?
Anyone would cringe at the little chip in the "E" of the logo, and I did too. Too bad their QC was off the day that one was assembled. It makes you wonder what other defects might have slipped through, especially in a watch with such an unusual design. But I love - love - love that cool design, and I covet that baby, chip and all. Only $39k in pre-owned? That is a bargain for sure, for anyone willing and able to drop 50k on some wrist bling.
Mechanical watch movements are now optimized for beauty, rather than precision. This fusee chain movement is incredibly beautiful. The antithesis of quartz. If you value accuracy over beauty, get a Casio. They are both excellent, but in different ways. The divergent evolution of horology.
The big chip on the "E" on the Zenith...
Oh my god that is awesome! Absolutely loving what Zenith has been releasing these past few years. Redemption is within their grasp! haha
Lots of watches shown on this channel are interesting and appreciated if not affordable to us enthusiasts.... this is my pick for Most Interesting and Appreciated of the year. ''Oh I see you have a tourbillion... well check out my new bicycle drive"... awesome.
I can't stop seeing the chip in the "E" of Zenith.
Simply STUNNING macro photography!
Just wow... the finish, the touches... simply... wow.. It may not wow a lot with its name... but the craftsmanship...
Joshua Cohen puts it right. Nice Vid !
Who doesn't love a bit of kit that punches way above its weight?
Assuming you no longer have the watch, you missed the chance to show the chain in action winding it on camera, or making a timelapse of it unwinding.
Spectacular watch. On par with the mastery of the storyteller to enchant every time. Chapeau.
there's a chip or dust on the E in the zenith logo, once you see it you'll never unsee it, and that is just not what you get when you buy a patek philippe, or even a rolex for that matter
The ink missing in the E of Zenith and the "highly polished" pitted chain and fittings put me off.
Referring to the AP RO as pigeon poop at Trafalgar square might have won you the internet!!
"As rare as pigeon poop." Excellent, made my week lol
Given the weight and frictionof the chain, i so surpised they made itwork
This goes beyond beauty, it's a poem given in a dream by a godess whisper
i am so happy to be able to look from close (throught this video) this watch that i always anted to possess! thANK
What´s the accuracy of this watch? i mean, i appreciate the beauty of the constant force mechanism, but what´s the real impact it has, other than visual?
My 200 year old silver pocket watch, chain driven fusee movement is more accurate than either of my two Rolex watches.
Chain has just come off. I don’t know who can sort it. My man has sadly died.
Where do you live? If in Australia, perhaps Tommy jobson can help.
What a treat to learn about this watch! Thank you, Andrew.
"every detail polished to perfection". First thing that catches the eye is that big paint chip on the "E" of Zenith
I think all the *text* and *lettering* on the watch detracts from its beauty. (Or on any watch for that matter)
Simply everything about this watch is beautiful
That SRAM refrence... Just shows the level of this review.
I’m interested in this watch. Is it located in Hong Kong by any chance?
0:40 it give me hopes to see the Romain Jerome pokémon watch featured on the chanel.
Love it. But so much watch and yet no free sprung balance wheel - visually, it just looks clunky with the regulator on the end of the bridge
Beautiful engineering, styling, and finishing 👌👌👌
It strikes that these watches are not special in how well they tell time, but there are craftmen who can make these watches. It's like climbing Everest. They do it, becasue they can. If that is true, any watch that has that level of craftmanship, would be unique. You could make an electric watch, that has floating magnetic barring, that never touch, so the never have friction. You could use the lastest research in physics, to make a an electronic watch that a technological wonder, and a work of art. Instead of a sapphire cyrstal, you could have diamond crystal, with embeded led lights, that are invisable, until they light up. There is so much ground breaking sceince in micro electronics, the you could use them in watch, that would be a craft, and art.
Well I have have to pay 6k to get a new water line into my house so I'm out. Maybe next time.
Beautifull just beautifull. But I can't help to see that little white spot on the letter E
Dear god a modern Fusee that keeps the style and beauty of the original? That is literally everything I have ever wanted, it's incredible
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