Very cool! I notice that you have only been making videos for a short while, but your quality of video making and expertise in jazz drumming paints a very clear picture! Thank you for sharing your helpful information. Very insightful! I know that if you continue to make videos, people will find you.
I just got mine. 2280 grs. Amazing JAZZ/Bossa ride, and the bell is fantastic for latin stuff. I am so glad, so blessed. Hard to find it here, in Brazil, almost impossible. . I was really blessed. It is a bit hard to sell, here, but I dont care. I am 71 and this will I will keep till death or move to an apartment. Thank you so much for your insight and inspiration!
Great review. I've got been using the 22" 30th Anniversary Ride as my main ride for more than 4 years. And definitely can hear similarities. It's one of those cymbals you have to learn how to play because it's more complex.
Nice demo. Great, great cymbal. Love it for jazz, prefer it to the K Cons (and I had many of thoses, medium, medium low and medium high). Any many others. But this is one of my favourites for jazz. It breathes jazz!
Wow that's one very versatile cymbal. If you could only take one cymbal (plus hi hats) to a gig, that's the one. I've recently pulled the trigger on a full set of Agop Xists, which are excellent, but I now want a 22inch Jazz Ride Trad! Amazing crash sound on a cymbal of that size!
And, yes, I bought one, and yes, it's all your fault. It was on offer, and so it was irresistible, it was only £295 and it's absolutely gorgeous, what a sound! I'm so glad I stumbled upon your review that day.
Own it and love it. Play it with my 21 SE jazz ride They work perfectly together. On my far right is a 20” 30th anniversary Adding the 20 and 21 to the mix takes care of the nuances one might not prefer with the 22
A very good Review - you find good words for the sounds. I really prefer my spizzichinos and recently received some cymbals at the Bosphorus factory that may have potential, but I will definitely look into the Agop Traditionell after seeing this. Thanks
Almost all my cymbals are the Jazz series cymbals from Meinl, yet I know and play zero jazz licks and could give even fewer jazz f**ks. They just mean thin and dark and I think that's perfect for not-jazz too.
Fabulous review. I understood everything you spoke about - tasting the overtones - yep I hear you on that. I recently bought a 1930’s Radio King set in awesome condition. 26 kick is pristine. I have been considering a nice ride to compliment this kit and have my eye on a early 40’s Trans Stamp 22 I have been sent a video of it and I’m hearing similar to the above. Obviously it may sound very different under my stick’s, in my hone studio. Keep the video’s coming please , they are class and most enjoyable. PDS - UK
Not to be all about the weight, but what does yours weigh? The Trad Jazz 22s all seem to be in the 2300g range. I had a whole set of the Trad Jazzes, but I couldn't bond with the 20. It had a zingy ring from the bell that I didn't like. The 22 is my favorite of the bunch, though it does have limitations for some gigs. Your point about a limited dynamic range is exactly my experience. Nice playing and great videos. I've been enjoying them.
hi. what about 20" traditional jazz ride, my friend told me that some1 selling 20" traditional jazz ride for 235$ brand new, and also can i use it as crash too ? please help me :dd
Istanbul agop makes always ok cymbals. not the best ive heard but also not the worst but they cant compete against chinese cymbals like dream,fans,wuhan or haiping but i like the sound those cymbals produce. Especialky 30th anni is goid
Wow. Man, you cant compare Istambuls, especially this series with ANY Chinese cymbal. It compares to K Cons Medium Thin 22. Still this Istambul is darker and jazzier. And I have and had many cymbals in my 71 years of existence and playing jazz, bossa-nova, classic rock, blues. I lived in the USA for 24 years, legally. I am addicted to GAS, and spend ''all'' my money in cymbals. Cheers from Brazil!
@@thebetterdrummer yeah. i didnt say that istanbul agop is bad. they are really great Actually they are the best tmodern turkish cymbals out there and ive heard alot of cymbals
Very cool! I notice that you have only been making videos for a short while, but your quality of video making and expertise in jazz drumming paints a very clear picture! Thank you for sharing your helpful information. Very insightful! I know that if you continue to make videos, people will find you.
Thanks for the kind words Calvin!
I just got mine. 2280 grs. Amazing JAZZ/Bossa ride, and the bell is fantastic for latin stuff. I am so glad, so blessed. Hard to find it here, in Brazil, almost impossible. . I was really blessed. It is a bit hard to sell, here, but I dont care. I am 71 and this will I will keep till death or move to an apartment. Thank you so much for your insight and inspiration!
Totally agreed! The cymbal is AWESOME!!
Great review. I've got been using the 22" 30th Anniversary Ride as my main ride for more than 4 years. And definitely can hear similarities. It's one of those cymbals you have to learn how to play because it's more complex.
Agreed, it’s a great cymbal, and takes a bit to really learn how to use it to its full potential!
what are the major differences between 30th and this one? does is make sense having both? I have the 30th
Hey Zak. Thanks for making me aware of this wonderful cymbal! Just received mine today! Exquisite mallet rolls!!
Not a bad note !
Woohoo!!! Welcome to the club!!!
Nice demo. Great, great cymbal. Love it for jazz, prefer it to the K Cons (and I had many of thoses, medium, medium low and medium high). Any many others. But this is one of my favourites for jazz. It breathes jazz!
I agree... Such an awesome cymbal. I legitimately take it to every gig/session
Wow that's one very versatile cymbal. If you could only take one cymbal (plus hi hats) to a gig, that's the one. I've recently pulled the trigger on a full set of Agop Xists, which are excellent, but I now want a 22inch Jazz Ride Trad! Amazing crash sound on a cymbal of that size!
And, yes, I bought one, and yes, it's all your fault. It was on offer, and so it was irresistible, it was only £295 and it's absolutely gorgeous, what a sound! I'm so glad I stumbled upon your review that day.
Own it and love it. Play it with my 21 SE jazz ride
They work perfectly together. On my far right is a 20” 30th anniversary
Adding the 20 and 21 to the mix takes care of the nuances one might not prefer with the 22
It’s a great cymbal for sure! And sounds like you have a great collection!!
@elithepitbulldog2209 do you have the 21 SE jazz on the left? I like this mixture of Agops you mention. Thanks.
Wonderful video and wonderful cymbal. I would love to see a demo of the 20" ride with 18" crash and 14" hi- hats - same model.
Good idea... I don't think they made an 18" crash in that specific line, but I do have the 20" and 14" hats
I really like it. Perfect jazz sound.
It’s a great cymbal!! I’m very pleased with mine
Ok I need this cymbal!
Its a great one to pick up!
A very good Review - you find good words for the sounds. I really prefer my spizzichinos and recently received some cymbals at the Bosphorus factory that may have potential, but I will definitely look into the Agop Traditionell after seeing this. Thanks
Oh nice, I haven't tried the spizzichinos before but have heard awesome things...
Almost all my cymbals are the Jazz series cymbals from Meinl, yet I know and play zero jazz licks and could give even fewer jazz f**ks. They just mean thin and dark and I think that's perfect for not-jazz too.
Lol, yeah I use this cymbal on pop and funk gigs literally all the time! (And on jazz and big band gigs as well)
Fabulous review.
I understood everything you spoke about - tasting the overtones - yep I hear you on that.
I recently bought a 1930’s Radio King set in awesome condition.
26 kick is pristine.
I have been considering a nice ride to compliment this kit and have my eye on a early 40’s Trans Stamp 22
I have been sent a video of it and I’m hearing similar to the above.
Obviously it may sound very different under my stick’s, in my hone studio.
Keep the video’s coming please , they are class and most enjoyable.
PDS - UK
Woah! Cool kit! And thanks for the kind words!
Hi Zak Cummington!
At your service!
I have one and put a 15cm strip of masking tape on the underside and it calms it just enough
I think I've got a small piece of medical tape on the bottom of mine... Definitely does make a big difference!
Not to be all about the weight, but what does yours weigh? The Trad Jazz 22s all seem to be in the 2300g range. I had a whole set of the Trad Jazzes, but I couldn't bond with the 20. It had a zingy ring from the bell that I didn't like. The 22 is my favorite of the bunch, though it does have limitations for some gigs. Your point about a limited dynamic range is exactly my experience.
Nice playing and great videos. I've been enjoying them.
Thanks so much! I’m not sure what it weighs, probably around that 2200/2300 range… I agree, I think the 20” is a little too thin/light…
Please do more review. Really love to hear opinion from experience drummer.
Thanks so much, I absolutely will!
Awesome sound
Thank you 😋
Sounds a lot like my 20" K zildjian crash ride, only slightly darker..
Lots of similarities between those for sure!
At least you say your better. Oh no. Oh no. Drum battle? Shit I just met you. Good show mate.
BRING IT ON! Hahaha, thanks very much!
This or the constable bounce 22 ridw
I want one. What sticks you using boss?
Hey Alex! I think in this video I was using Vic Firth AJ 4's. Great sticks if you like lighter sticks
hi. what about 20" traditional jazz ride, my friend told me that some1 selling 20" traditional jazz ride for 235$ brand new, and also can i use it as crash too ? please help me :dd
I love the 20” as a crash! Not sure about the pricing, $235 seems like a good deal? Do some research to make sure
@@thebetterdrummer so you dont recommend 20' as a main ride ?
Is that grombal on the cymbal? Curious of your thoughts on it
IT IS!! I’m surprised you know what that is! I love them, it’ll be the next thing I review for sure…
Hi. How many grams is it?
Hey Randeezy, I think this one is right close to 2300 grams!
This is an old Turkish K Zildian cymbal, just look at it!
It certainly is beautiful!!!
Nice. What is the weight?
Hey Bill! I’m not sure, I think around 2300 if I had to guess
Wait, didn't they come out 1 year ago?
I think they came out either end of 2020 or very early 2021… so 2 years or almost 2 years!
These animals will need to make an appearance
My zoo is for me and me only 😄
Istanbul agop makes always ok cymbals. not the best ive heard but also not the worst but they cant compete against chinese cymbals like dream,fans,wuhan or haiping but i like the sound those cymbals produce. Especialky 30th anni is goid
They can’t compete against Dream? Say whaaaaa?!
Wow. Man, you cant compare Istambuls, especially this series with ANY Chinese cymbal. It compares to K Cons Medium Thin 22. Still this Istambul is darker and jazzier. And I have and had many cymbals in my 71 years of existence and playing jazz, bossa-nova, classic rock, blues. I lived in the USA for 24 years, legally. I am addicted to GAS, and spend ''all'' my money in cymbals. Cheers from Brazil!
To each their own! I love the Istanbul agop stuff, but the dreams/wuhans have their own cool thing also!
@@thebetterdrummer yeah. i didnt say that istanbul agop is bad. they are really great Actually they are the best tmodern turkish cymbals out there and ive heard alot of cymbals