Bogey teams: WHY even the best fear some opponents
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- čas přidán 17. 02. 2020
- Mighty Liverpool are left quaking in their boots by Crystal Palace. Even the best like Bayern Munich can’t stand Gladbach. Meanwhile, Real Madrid live in fear of Bayern. Argentina would be happy to never face Germany again. What are bogey teams? How do some clubs - even much smaller ones - sometimes embarrass bigger sides time and again? The bogey team phenomenon. What is your team's bogey team? Tell us in the comments...
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What club or country do you support, and who's the bogey team you just can't seem to beat?
Italy. I don't know what our all time records against them, but they did broke my heart twice in space of 6 years. I'm talking about my beloved Die Mannschaft of course 😪
Maybe the 2016 result broke the bogey cycle?!?
@@dwkickoff That's not a real victory, penalties don't mean shit!!
@@syakdudu Your all time record against them is something like 9 losses, 1 draw, 0 won.
@@dwkickoff Haha no kidding this actually slipped my mind. Maybe I didn't want to remember anything from that tournament as we fxxked up badly vs France thereafter. Anyway ja you could be right!
Could’ve done without the woman’s scream every minute mate.
Personally loved it
And the creepy close up on the iris
completely ruined the video for me
Hahaha I know....got annoying the third time
I also loved the scream, reinforces the theme.!
The starting scream pissed me off
Its so annoying
@@fortunepeter7285 and they overdid it too
Yeah, great vid, but those screems are way too loud, annoying and repetitive. Maybe chill it down a little next time, but anyway great vid !
hmm mur roomt ahi jaa. hostel-2. fifa khelu
I feel like as of late, Wolves have been Manchester United's bogey team
serg Man City as well
To be honest, the seem to be the entire top 6s bogey team.
It’s Everton bruh, we always drop points against them
MK DONS
We did the double this season tho?
I thought they would pick France as Brazil's bogey team. As of 80's France defeated Brazil 3 times in World Cups, including a WC final.
France really is a pain in our ass. I hate when we play against them.
France is good but never the favorites against Brazil. Definitely bogey team
Not Napoli for Liverpool??? The only team not to lose to Liverpool this, even losing to them, and they lost last year as well🤷♂️🤷♂️
yeah, but its not as much as crystal
Liverpool beat them last year
@@advenco344 yeah but barely, if not for Alisson's heroics there would've been no UCL title for Liverpool last year thanks to Napoli
@Jibril Ahmed yeah I remember that game, Liverpool deffo played better but it wasn't like y'all dominated Napoli, Liverpool created 2 or 3 REAL goalscoring opportunities and scored one, Napoli had 2 great chances on the counters as well one of which was the Milik 1 on 1. But tbf Milik kinda choked it, alisson tried making himself as big as possible and Milik just hit it straight at him, he could've just stodd still and he still woulda saved it. Taking nothing away from alisson tho he is a great keeper
@Jibril Ahmed ye, from what I remember Napoli didn't do much when they had possession, they just passed it around, hence why the highlights didn't show them creating much
Is Liverpool u23 Everton's bogey team?
For the time being, that might change if Everton ever play Liverpool's u18 team.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dwkickoff 😂😂😂😂😂
As a Real Madrid fan, I personally would Celta Vigo as our boogey team instead of Bayern
Yes obviously
Bayern is nothing
Zubair Ahmed you’re a little stupid aren’t you
Oh look another foreign Real bandwagon fan. What do you know about football?
We Barça fans have Espanyol, even if they do a horrible season they just manage to fuck a full season for Barcelona xD
2020 Liverpool be like: Bogey teams not this year!
not even napoli?
Or Atletico?
You are lucky the mighty Hull City decided to sit out of the EPL.
Don't get too cocky, we will come for you.
@@finding_aether we're scared
Atleti wait till Anfield
Napoli, we won the cup and beat them at Anfield
Even while Playing Fifa career mode with Liverpool , I lost to Crystal palace 3-1 at the selhurst park
Till the 80th min the game was 1-1 and at 87th min and 89th min two goals from Townsend ended my 12 win match streak😭😭.
Btw nice video
You know the bogey spirit is strong when it's also affecting FIFA matches
som pal sounds about EA
FIFA game is scripted. Sometimes the computer just wants you to lose.
@@StephenWong14 but why? Why does the game do that.
LMAOOOO!
That has been the most interesting video yet, and there have been some great ones on this channel. My Juventus hate playing against Genoa, especially at the Morassi. United's biggest troublemaker would have to be Wolves.
Wolves is the top 4s' bogey team
Yup. Unfortunately, Arsenal doesnt have to worry about Wolves.
For Chelsea it's Bournemouth
Bayern has a new bogey team facing Leverkusen at Allianz they always lose these days
John Henry de Klerk and Herta I hate playing against them
Hoffenheim as well
Gladbach too
definetly Gladbach
I'm watching this after Crystal Palace's thrashing today 😂
😂😂😂 ikr
No Watford is are bogey team
2 3-0 loses under Klopp 😭😭
I was wondering who was gonna say that
Maaaaan, you got some great taste on music, editing and scripting! Second video and another Royksopp song right of the bat! Content is carefully curated and delivered with the mere interest of watcher's understanding and thought provoking. I'm thankful I discovered this channel!
I used to have a rivalry with my friend in fifa.. Not the best player but he seemed to beat me constantly when I played at his house.. Then I realized his team players were all edited to 99 Overall
Lmao
XD
Sounds like M. Night Shamalayn horror movie plot twist. It's a shite twist, but a twist nontheless
Edit: also we should've saw it coming
Hahaha... happened to me as well....the players were a machine...I knew something was wrong....for me it was PES 2010..long time back
@@toshiyapangaier7059 lmao
Valverde had every other team as bogey team
Every time an eye opens up I will hear that scream 🤣🤣
Absolutely loved the presentation! Great work :)
Premier league top 6's bogey teams => burnley and wolves
not Liverpool sorry m8
@@nicholasmwangangi6257 your team really having a bad time against them though
I'll be honest, Burnley is only the bogey team of United
I have started to love DW. Not just DW kick off but DW documentary as well. Have been watching all sorts of media over the years including BBC, CNN and everything else but DW is a breath of fresh air.
Atalanta BC is the modern quintessential bogey team. They beat everybody in the Italian League and now in the Champions League.
Love your vids guys your channel is so underrated,the Mr Robot background music fit perfectly as well!
Chelsea alway become Barcelona's bogey team when they meet each other in UEFA Champions League.
Huh😂😂😂 3-0
Looooool what
Usually*
I remember many times barca winning chelsea but only one time chelsea winning barca... 🤔
Liverpool is Barça’s bogey team, if you look at their records, if i’m not mistaken, out of 10 meetings Liverpool won 5, 2 draws, and Barça won 3... and Barça has never progressed to the next phase of the competition everytime they meet Liverpool
I remember that 3-3 against crystal palace where Liverpool were leading by 3 goals and Gerrad was carrying Suarez to the dressing room where Suarez was crying very badly💔💔
For Dortmund it is Bremen for sure. A few others (Hertha, Augsburg, the blues) can be thorns too, but we've a particularly bad record in the Pokal with Bremen. They've just knocked us out twice in a row too. I still had sympathy for them last year, but not now.
For LAFC, it is Galaxy. The Carson crew always seemed to have our number regardless of form going into the Trafficos. It took a monumental effort to exorcize the demon at the end of last year, but then we were knocked out of MLS cup immediately afterwards.
Bogeys are rough whether you're beaten or not.
Edit: Poor Hamburg. They're not much threat in recent seasons.
Interesting stuff! Does one team having the upper hand help the LA rivalry to develop? Or is that just an aside for fans?
@@dwkickoff I've thought about it before. For neutrals, If one team always wins with batterings it would become a joke. If one team always won with relatively safe and simple 1-0, 2-0 scores, it would become a snoozefest.
Winning by one goal in games where both score is a closer game (edit: And in reality there were tons of goals in these meetings!), but you still need to have the extra context that goes with it to spice it up. This would be brought by the fans, the players, coach, anyone involved really.
The narrative became the new kid in the city (aka "Chivas 2.0") trying to connect with the city, with help FROM the people to give the old king and his old empire, who has a lesser connection to the people (aka "Carson Galaxy"), a run for his money.
Once the games finally came, there was the marketing wagon in full force and while this may seem way too plastic or manufactured of a rivalry to some, the context I mentioned earlier was brought after all when the time came. The first match set the tone for every following one. Vela's majesty vs. Zlatan's never say die mentality.
We always lost in Carson ("YOU CAN'T BEAT US!") despite coming so close the first time of asking. We never lost at the Banc, but we also bottled our best chance when a designated player back-passed from the wing right into the feet of their striker who then scored the equalizer. Moments like these seem almost pulled from a storybook and ignite the whole thing for everyone.
I would say that with the way each game played out up until now, it definitely was helpful for it to develop, for neutrals especially, and that it stoked the flames for the fans incredibly well. The back and forth was very justifiable. We'll have to see how it goes now that big Z has gone back to Milan.
They've signed Chicharito (I feel in an attempt to ape us with the Mexican market personally) now, but he's a very different striker and person to Ibra. If we lose again, it'll be seen as us slipping back to the old way, even with Zlatan gone. A bad look for us anyways. If we win, we'll confirm that we kicked Z out of MLS and the Galaxy's paradoxical successes against us with him.
Overall, we live for that flair for the dramatic feeling in football, so I wouldn't have it any other way. Maybe one or two less goals conceded to them haha.
I had sympathy for Bremen but after Moisanders Attack I hope they get relegated
@@e.l.b6435 Moisander pissed me off too. I don't care about the penalty, he has no business doing that, especially with such a huge age difference between him and Reyna. Just walk away.
I really believe the Bayern-M'gladbach case, if not any other... Last season M'gladbach beat an on-form Bayern 5-0 in the German cup. Even a few days ago they drew 1-1, with M'gladbach keeper making a record 19 saves.
At the time of my comment Bayern hasn't beaten them in their last 5 meetings, nd winning only 2 in their last 9 meetings... WILD 😨
The sight of Suarez in tears and Gerrard consoling. The Dwight Gayle storm still torments me.
I think Manchester City's bogey team is Tottenham Hotspur and also Wolves
Wouldn't it be LFC? We have punked the oil barons on numerous occasions....champions league 5-1 Agg, perfect season going into the toilet 4-3, and then again this year 3-1?
@@PaulO-qt6sq liverpool and city are on the same level, so it wouldnt be a bogey team. also, remember 5-0?
Dude, man city always wins vs tottenham. Maybe wolves bu NOT tottenhomo
City's bogey team in this decade has been Wigan.
@@PaulO-qt6sq this aged well
Gosh usually these documentaries are so good
But in this one the in between screams drove me crazy
Barcelona
It seems every relegated one looks bogey
6:10 watching this as a Bayern Fan after the 5:0 loss😭
Some cases are very much overhyped. Schalke is Inter Milan's bogey team for what? For having won like one game ten years ago? And Bayern is Real Madrid's? But Real absolutely destroyed them 4-0 in the Allianz Arena some years ago...
This is brilliant content. Kudos to all involved 👏👏👏
Thank you!
For Barcelona it's espanyol, even when they're last they just get to either beat us or draw, they ended our unbeaten streak in 2018, the only time athletico affects us are in knockout competitions
Espanyol didnt end the streak that was levante on the second to last match day
It's real sociedad ser anoeta actually
It was levante
Good job DW
Please never use that scream again.
Juve's bogey team : Lazio
Juve's bogey player : hidetoshi nakata
Barca's bogey team : any team in ucl.
@@vex_13 yeah, I think that's why we have more UCLs than you.
@@atharv7353 more embarassing exit too.
@@vex_13 embarrassment is losing literally every final you've got to, except one.
I miss that legendary press conference quote of Klopp when he said 'I just can' t forget this f*cking lose against Crystal Palace! '
Would have fitted in so perfectky.
as an inter fan thats true :(
but still stankovic scored the most beautiful goal in history vs schalke and neuer
Even though the 1950 Maracanazo is perhaps the biggest ever hit on the brazilian side, Uruguay can't exactly be called a "bogey team" for Brazil. Brazil has won 36 games against them. Meanwhile, Uruguay has won 20. The last time Uruguay won, however, was in 2001. After that, Brazil has even applied elastic scores, like a 4x1 in 2017 and 4x0 in 2010.
Loving that they are using the Mr. Robot soundtrack
Amazing video from amazing channel!
I'm from Brazil, and I support Sao Paulo FC. Historically our bogey team is Corinthians. But nowadays, our current phase is deeply bad and other rivals are bogey team too, like Palmeiras.
Another particular thing: Sao Paulo also has bogey arenas, because we have huge difficulties to win away against Corinthias, Palmeiras and Athletico PR. We took 38 years to defeat Atlhetico in their Arena
Having a bogey rival sucks. Athletico-PR is ours (Paraná Clube). They eliminated us on the state championship for 3 years in a row in all different ways possible, including penalties. Also, the last time we won in the Arena da Baixada was in 2007.
as a Dortmund fan, Id say Hoffenheim became our main bogey team. We´ve won more games against them tgen we lost, but damn, they always seem to hurt us late in the season
love how yall used the 'forgot about dre' beats at the end of the video
Last 10 games : Liverpool 8 wins, Crystal Palace 2 wins. I wouldn't call that a bogey team. If thats the case then every team is every one else's bogey team 😂
I like the way DW markets Klopp
Here after we trashed Palace 4:0 to climb our first title in 30 years a day after. COYR! :D
Yeah same bro haha. They look dumb now
The 1950 Wold cup didn't have a final. That game was the final group game.
What about estadio Azteca in Mexico. Teams have often said it’s scary to play in such a massive away crowd and with the altitude change. And Mexico usually does well there
We just played our bogey team we drew 2 all and we were first in my national league now we third 😭😭
Liverpool bogey team is Napoli.
No
Every Arsenal fan quaked at the sight of Stoke, Bolton and Swansea...
izzojunior nd Southampton away but also injuries
I'm eating stop showing the eyes
As a Real Madrid fan I would say it used to be Tenerif but recently it has been Celta.
Liverpool’s kryptonite is Napoli, always. Crystal Palace not so much anymore, only sometimes.... but Napoli imo, is the one.
Uruguay as Brazil boogey team? That's wrong. Yes, Uruguay beat Brazil at the 1950 final and of course it's a ghost haning over the heads of many brazilians. But they have beaten Uruguay fairly consistent the last couple of decades.
Brazil real boogey team is France. 1986 world cup they eliminated one of the best squad Brazil had on penalty kicks, the 1998 final when Brazil was completely sure they were gonna win, the 2006 world cup with Henry goal and Zidane just playing the hell out. Every time they face on WC later stages, the french seem to beat the brazilian side.
As being Man United fan I really scared of Liverpool team
It seems like, in recent times, Bayer has become Bayern’s Bogey team, or Bailey gets magically more powerful whilst playing against them. As a Bayer fan, I hope that it is the former instead of the latter, even though Bailey is a good player.
tony pulis's stoke was everybody bogey team
Chelsea players gonna start shaking in their boots whenever it’s time to come up against man utd
Everton and Bournemouth*
West Brom*
It is more Arsenal than Man utd, we lose every game to Arsenal
As a Barcelona fan we should ALWAYS play UEFA knockout 2nd legs at home. 🙁👍✌️
Klopp has never defeated Sevilla. He always loses or draws.
I'm getting oh my goals vibes
Same😂😂
Any team is PSGs bogey team
venezuela is colombias bogey team, we always seem to tie and put stinkers of performances in front of goal against the second worst conmebol team
whenever we face venezuela mom is always saying how we never win against them and its always a shocker to grind out a 1-0 win
Don Bortey of Hearts of oak is Asante Kotoko's boogey player
My Celtic hate playing not against Rangers, but Aberdeen, at Pittodrie. Played very badly, looked confused last time round but somehow got the win, only just.
Augsburg as a Cologne fan 😭, back then it was Freiburg
I immediately think of Wigan and MCI
is that a Mr. Robot reference?
The 2014 match against crystal palace is being blown out of proportion....we were not on the cusp of winning a title....if we had won that match...we would be on the same points as city....but with s much inferior goal difference....which means if all things stayed equal we would have still lost the league.....the palace result was because we were chasing goals.....after 2014 ...our record against crystal palace has been excellent...
for Atlético it is also girona, only one win in 6 matches, horrible, even that knocking out of copa del rey ,glad that they are in segunda
Real Madrid haven't lost to Bayern Munich since 2012 we have beaten them 5 times and drawn once since
But they used to be their bogey team
Now it's the other way around
Carlos VG
But one of them was not deserved
It's the history between these two clubs. I guess till 2012, Bayern were ahead in head to head wins, but i think now RM have equalled or perhaps surpassed the wins of Bayern. These two side have met each other more than any other team in the history of european league or the champions league.
Who's watching after Liverpool draws with Everton 😩
man utds bogey team is wolverhampton.
De Gea played well against Sevilla tho when we played them in 2018
Barcelona fan... Our bogeu team.. Roma after our shock loss at rome got us out from cl semis..
As a Barca fan I fear Liverpool after 2019
Here in Ecuador, Barcelona S.C. has never managed to beat Liga de Quito in its home ground, since it was built in 1997. 23 years without managing a victory!
Now that sounds like a bogey team to us!
Since being promoted to the Premier League, Bournemouth have become my team's(Chelsea) bogey team.
Damn this vid justified my fear of Cristal palace
Its because one game can change the outcome of any competition.
The opportunity the he didn't take to slip in the 7-1 defeat makes me sad
how can teams from a different domestic league be a bogey opponent?
Inter Milan's bogey team are Sassuolo and Fiorentina
"giajing" instead of "judging"
Fair play to that Liverpool fan. He probably had to get an underground or maybe even a long walk to Selhurst Park to film this.
Jose Mourinho bogey field is st James park
"It's always bloody burnley!"
- Mark Goldbridge
Whos here After Liverpool beat Crystal Palace 4:0
As a supporter of the Portuguese National Team, I can say we had many bogey teams. For years, decades, we could not beat Germany, Italy, Spain, England, Brasil and especially France. But since Euro 2000, one by one, those bogeys have been falling. And now, after finally winning the Euro against France in Paris, it seems the bogey curse has been lifted and even reversed. Portugal has become one of the biggest bogey teams in Europe. England and Holland can't seem to beat us. Spain has lost their superiority complex against us. Germany and Italy now appear to show us respect on the pitch. Brasil no longer thinks of us as minnows and France knows they're no longer the team that can't be beaten. Portugal always seems to be drawn in the Group of Death. How do we get so lucky? The Portuguese Men of War are now the bogey team. Here's hoping this cycle goes on for decades more to come.
They are bigger team than u ... U need to be better chances of winning on paper not other way around ... All team u mentioned are very strong ... And u were meant to lose to them ...
As a brazilian, I can say we respect Portugal, but we were never even close of being afraid of facing you, even with Cristiano Ronaldo. Actually, Brazil is one of the few teams CR has never scored against.
@@drdhananjaybansal A bogey team is a team you can't beat, no matter what.
@@joaopedropeixoto8558 I was at the match, on a rainy night in Porto, when Portugal beat Brazil for the first time since WC 1966. It was a friendly so no big deal, but I can tell you that it felt like we had accomplished something important. We gave the giant a bloody nose. Portugal was playing with the big boys.
@@TagusMan in 2003, right? It's impressive to see such a small country like Portugal earning the respect of the "big boys". I can't think of any country with the size and population of Portugal with a similar number of important players in its history like Euzébio, Figo and CR. I don't think Portugal will ever be able to win a World Cup, but just by coming this far, Portugal deserves respect and acknowledgment.
Lol i really don't think Cavani ever thinks of Catania anymore
What's with the sound
The RB Leipzig/Monchengladbach bogey has more meaning now with the 6-0 halftime lead.
*Correction: i think barça will fear liverpool from now on* 😆
sad but true
:(
Nope only as long as they are the number one team which wont be forever
@troll guy oh yeah yeah eat your cereal
@troll guy oh yeah
why do i feel like winning against palace 7-0 was the curse to kick it all off
Barça have only lost three times to Atleti since 2011 the truth is Atleti never seem to beat Barça especially in the league, other teams such as Sociedad, Valencia and Levante seem to have Barça's number more often recently.
Exactly, Atletico have lost the last two league games against Barça at the Wanda Metropolitano in the last minutes. As a Real Madrid fan, I always have faith that Real Sociedad may win against Barça.
But also fear Sevilla away and Valencia at home.
I think it’s had an effect though in the champions league every time the two teams have played
As a México fan, we shit bricks whenever we play Argentina unfortunately :/ just lookin at World Cup history or even just lookin at friendlies. Nosotros cagamos cada ves con vos 🙃
Argentina are just better than u ... It's usual ... Understand video first