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  • čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
  • John and Jacob discuss the future of conservatism and the Tory party in Britain
    See their full interview here: • The Battle for Britain...
    Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg has been as a Conservative Member of Parliament in Somerset since 2010. He previously served as Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council.
    Rees-Mogg has authored 3 books including 'The Victorians: Twelve Titans Who Forged Britain', and he now hosts the State of the Nation on GB News. A devout Catholic, he lives in Somerset with his wife and six children.
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Komentáře • 151

  • @Design_no
    @Design_no Před měsícem +92

    As Starkey says, you can't win from the middle. If you are conservative, BE CONSERVATIVE.

    • @pmays4
      @pmays4 Před měsícem +1

      Mogg is not conservative and never has been.

    • @ironsideeve2955
      @ironsideeve2955 Před měsícem

      Macron has joined the chat

    • @greebo7857
      @greebo7857 Před měsícem

      They don't see that the "middle" keeps moving, towed along by the Left. It's rather like the bullied kid, desperately seeking the favour of someone who will never give it to them, when they would be far better off being themselves and being liked for who they are.

    • @niguel4438
      @niguel4438 Před měsícem

      @@Design_no absolutely

  • @morsmagne
    @morsmagne Před měsícem +56

    I disagree with Rees-Mogg - There are too many One Nation 'wet' MPs, and it's the legal migration that's also a big problem.

    • @elbuggo
      @elbuggo Před měsícem

      The legal invasion is far worse than the illegal invasion.

  • @johnh1872
    @johnh1872 Před měsícem +36

    Rwanda had no chance of working. We need to leave human rights act . Also letting in 600k legal migrants was a complete joke.

    • @elbuggo
      @elbuggo Před měsícem +2

      Those 600k will have multiplied to 1200k in 10 years, and 2400k in 20 years.

    • @michaelgray7847
      @michaelgray7847 Před měsícem

      Absolutely!!)

  • @nickmiller4814
    @nickmiller4814 Před měsícem +5

    It is not immoral to care more for ones own children than the children of strangers. It is, in fact, moral to do so. Charity cannot end in self destruction. This is also true of nations.

  • @inisboru3181
    @inisboru3181 Před měsícem +11

    You need conservative MPs in a conservative party, to qualify as a conservative party.

  • @PennySmart
    @PennySmart Před měsícem +28

    I can't believe he wasn't re-elected while Rishi Sunak was!😢

    • @saulgood2366
      @saulgood2366 Před měsícem +1

      Falling asleep while you have your snout in the public trough will do that

    • @iggyzeta9755
      @iggyzeta9755 Před měsícem

      He was never well-liked in the Tory Party so they didn't parachute him into a solid safe seat

    • @robertcatterson8835
      @robertcatterson8835 Před měsícem

      He wasn’t elected because he never put his hand up, he’s a life-long politician and a coward? just full of tickety boo one liners and cucumber sandwiches 🥪.

    • @12alocin
      @12alocin Před měsícem +3

      Depends on the kind of people in the constituency!

    • @elainepitkin3561
      @elainepitkin3561 Před měsícem

      Could have been by the same mechanism he became pm.

  • @61shirley
    @61shirley Před měsícem +19

    he puts forward a moral case but its weak and feeble. we need strength and sternness

    • @rudyberkvens-be
      @rudyberkvens-be Před měsícem

      These are 2 of the lost values to be regained indeed. But not all.

  • @belleepoque2544
    @belleepoque2544 Před měsícem +26

    I adore JRM, shame he lost. A wonderful MP.

    • @eliwhaley4804
      @eliwhaley4804 Před měsícem +4

      Hear hear

    • @jeremyschipp
      @jeremyschipp Před měsícem +4

      He is nothing but a wealthy snob

    • @iggyzeta9755
      @iggyzeta9755 Před měsícem +9

      ​@jeremyschipp Yes yes, you hate his accent, we get it. People who have more money than you must be evil

    • @michaelgray7847
      @michaelgray7847 Před měsícem +1

      He's a very rich Toff , who does no represent me and many more across Britain.

    • @CHRISDABAHIA
      @CHRISDABAHIA Před měsícem +1

      @@michaelgray7847😂

  • @lawrencerogers576
    @lawrencerogers576 Před měsícem +6

    He’s just making excuses. They ignored their supporters from Day 1. And it got worse even after 2015. May deliberately wrecked Brexit. Boris is nothing less than a hooligan. Truss did not stick to her guns. Sunak did not understand anything.

  • @cctv5348
    @cctv5348 Před měsícem +24

    Tories are too loyal to America to call out the plight of natives to mass displacement. Increase racial diversity, increase inequality, decrease civic and social quality of life. They were also very weak on grooming gangs & crime generally.

    • @lenabo9929
      @lenabo9929 Před měsícem

      What is an american native ?

    • @shitpeas
      @shitpeas Před měsícem

      Bush/Blair? We kid ourselves that we're an independent nation. Decades ago, we signed up to follow US policy - even to the extent of breaking international law. We are but cheer-leaders for US-led NATO - a bloc that ceased to have a meaningful purpose following the dissolution of the USSR. Cheer-leaders with the world's second largest arms export business, that is.

    • @AndrewJepson-sn3yg
      @AndrewJepson-sn3yg Před měsícem

      If you watch world politics, you can see the backlash against mass immigration, DEI, large state and other liberal left wing ideologies in America with Trump, Canada with Pollievre, and most acutely in Argentina with Millei... We as usual will just be 5 years behind the curve...

    • @cctv5348
      @cctv5348 Před měsícem

      ​@lenabo9929 1% of the USA's population. 3% if you include part-native.

  • @karlarcher8773
    @karlarcher8773 Před měsícem +4

    Is it moral to entice skilled workers from developing countries who have poorer healthcare and utility services than the UK.

  • @kalanos4660
    @kalanos4660 Před měsícem +4

    The Conservatives first need to get out of the London-centric bubble.
    A democracy represents the people, it doesn't stigmatise them for not thinking like our "masters".

  • @niguel4438
    @niguel4438 Před měsícem +15

    JRM will be sorely missed

    • @leehighland5435
      @leehighland5435 Před měsícem +2

      Not by reform voters, I am glad his gone.

    • @colvinator1611
      @colvinator1611 Před měsícem

      By who ?

    • @niguel4438
      @niguel4438 Před měsícem +1

      @@colvinator1611 rational people who take the trouble to listen

  • @Jimmy-ew2xe
    @Jimmy-ew2xe Před měsícem +4

    It’s about time the power was handed back to we the people. It just needs the proper planning and discussion. Communities should be able to manage themselves. It just takes teamwork.

  • @EmergingEvents
    @EmergingEvents Před měsícem +14

    Not to mention that government has a moral duty to protect and uphold its citizens first and foremost including as the dictates of these times show to maintain education, healthcare services for their people.

    • @theend9494
      @theend9494 Před měsícem

      The conservatives won over the workers and forgot they were the upper class, then they looked down on them, and then they paid the price

    • @pawelpap9
      @pawelpap9 Před měsícem

      Says who? I do not think “moral” duty counts for much. Usually Constitution spells out what various branches of goverment are responsible for and these are legal obligations, not moral.

    • @whatnextincomo
      @whatnextincomo Před měsícem

      Moral precedes legal.

  • @jeremyschipp
    @jeremyschipp Před měsícem +11

    First past the post system should be eliminated it is only because of that Labour have majority but not all the popular vote

    • @lenabo9929
      @lenabo9929 Před měsícem +2

      The conservatives could of changed that they didnt. Popular vote is irrelvant under fptp. Secondaly if there was pr we would likely have centrist governments because they will be able to create coalisions

    • @Dan-to9hl
      @Dan-to9hl Před měsícem +1

      ​@@lenabo9929 preferential voting, AV, is a good compromise, still just one mp per electorate but all votes count no exhausted votes

    • @ironsideeve2955
      @ironsideeve2955 Před měsícem

      @@Dan-to9hlthat wont make much (if any) difference

    • @Dan-to9hl
      @Dan-to9hl Před měsícem

      ​​​@@ironsideeve2955 no it's very different, you don't get government that has 30% percent support, no spoiler effect. The vote goes to a second, third, fourth etc preference if the preferred candidate is eliminated, it's like running multiple elections concurrently and ends with the election of a single candidate. You still get landslides under AV voting, they are just a truer reflection of voters sentiment not a mathematical aberration. Proportional representation is an exact voter sentiment but can create very mixed parliaments, we have that in our senate. NZ runs a PR government, that seems to cause issues. I suppose a theoretical outcome of this election may have been a Conservative Reform coalition government, or a much increased Reform win. That would hardly be centrist. Regardless coalitions can still occur under fptp, it's happened in the UK.

    • @ironsideeve2955
      @ironsideeve2955 Před měsícem

      @@Dan-to9hl yeah nah

  • @alanmunch5779
    @alanmunch5779 Před měsícem +3

    I like JRM, however he is far removed from the lives of ordinary people and I don't think he can understand why people became so angry at the Tories. He comes across as if what's happened is a bit unfortunate, but is for his intellectual stimulation - for his interest as he analyses and discusses it with others over a glass of wine. It has not really touched him. There is no sign of humility, taking responsibility, regret or sadness. I suppose it's not really his fault; he lives in a bubble and always will. The cost would be very high to him to step out of his bubble, and I don't think he would be prepared to do that. I'm not talking about wealth or privilege, but mindset and character. HRH Prince William exhibits real compassion and a desire to understand people's lives, which JRM and many politicians don't.

  • @dianeirvine7624
    @dianeirvine7624 Před měsícem +4

    Labour mp’s are becoming similar to Thames water - they are creating a obnoxious smell

  • @organisationxiv2927
    @organisationxiv2927 Před měsícem +4

    He's now sounding so out of touch and lacklustre. He's part of the entrenched establishment - the same talkingg points from three or four years ago, not far enough.

  • @alicelund147
    @alicelund147 Před měsícem +2

    Old men talking about old things like old men talk. These two men is part of the reason why a new nationalistic "right"/"conservatism" will totally replace Tory. They and the Tories are the past.

  • @ipohtennischannel5482
    @ipohtennischannel5482 Před měsícem +5

    Now the leader of the queue at his local unemployment centre. And the moral of the story is...
    "Never betray the interests of the people you were elected to represent." 😅😅😅

  • @rogeralsop3479
    @rogeralsop3479 Před měsícem +3

    Most thoughtful.

  • @StoNe-ji6bc
    @StoNe-ji6bc Před měsícem +4

    In an argument, if you want to debate a right winger, target their rational side. When debating a left winger, target their emotional side.
    Emotions will always win because guilt, shame, self righteousness can be an easy sell to people who want to be popular

    • @SpeedfreakUK
      @SpeedfreakUK Před měsícem +1

      Leftists don’t feel guilt

    • @samuellowekey9271
      @samuellowekey9271 Před měsícem

      It's the media who frame debates in such a way, they're trained that way. It's only because the corporate media have almost a complete monopoly on the flow of information that it appears that emotions win over rationality, but on the rare occasion that the case for conservatism is given equal weight, common sense invariabily wins out.

  • @brianthompson5829
    @brianthompson5829 Před měsícem +2

    It would be a mistake to admit Mogg into the Reform party, he's an entitled snob.

  • @leehighland5435
    @leehighland5435 Před měsícem +4

    Mogg would have been quite happy for us to vote Tory back into power and for the Tories to just carry on has they were. This is why I cheered when he lost his seat. All he cares about is the Tory party, but I have come to the conclusion Tories whether they be liberal ones or not, don't care about us, all they care about is their party and themselves.

  • @AshleyJOsborne
    @AshleyJOsborne Před měsícem +9

    Articulate conversation, thankyou gentleman.

  • @dod4004
    @dod4004 Před měsícem

    As a Labour voter in 2024, some of the most popular Tory policies for me were actually under George Osborne. And they were moral arguments, not just economic. That you shouldn't be paid more for laying at home than going out to work, nor for churning out children you cannot afford. But then they got bored of that and never mentioned it ever again.

  • @S3NTRY
    @S3NTRY Před měsícem +1

    What about the moral good of putting your own people ahead of chancers

  • @Coldenthusiast
    @Coldenthusiast Před měsícem +3

    Weak and pathetic moral case from Mogg.
    The moral case is to protect British people from outsiders, stopping people dying in the channel is a secondary benefit.
    It would also help if we believed them, sending 1 man to Rwanda is hardly making up for the millions they let in - both legally and illegally.

  • @MYMUSICCHANNEL-db4ky
    @MYMUSICCHANNEL-db4ky Před měsícem +1

    14 years of tories 14 year of people trafficers could it be they have not been caught or stopped because they are tories what do you think ?

  • @angelmessenger8240
    @angelmessenger8240 Před měsícem +2

    To have accurate opinion polls you first need unbiased companies to run them. Yougov is biased.

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans4377 Před měsícem +1

    Have the Tories tried being competent? You never know, it might work.

  • @jennymum
    @jennymum Před měsícem

    Reform are already in fighting.

  • @truecolor313
    @truecolor313 Před měsícem +2

    Posh boys infighting people did not like

  • @spezzington
    @spezzington Před měsícem

    Conservatives - the damage is done and cannot be fixed. Now there is an alternative.

  • @andrewwickham4642
    @andrewwickham4642 Před měsícem

    The last true leaders of western conservatism are all my personal favourites…. UK Margret Thatcher, US Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul11 and our very own John Howard…. 🇦🇺
    John Anderson for those listeners not versed with Australian political history, played the pivotal role as Deputy PM to Howard in that sweat spot of conservatism in Australia…
    Howard / Anderson/ Fisher period governed between 1996-2007. (Sadly we lost the absolute national treasure Tim Fisher in recent years)
    Today in 2024 Australia, with the exceptions of former PM Tony Abbott, the 2 people that make more sense than all the compiled political crop is our national treasures, John Howard 85 and a very young John Anderson 68 (apologies JA)… One not only could but should listen to these 3 guys on any available occasion to be reminded what character, soul and leadership used too and should look like …
    Congratulations John on your fine channel
    Andrew Wickham

  • @grahamhutton1633
    @grahamhutton1633 Před měsícem

    Jacob, the conservatives needed to be true to label and not focus solely on being in government. The problem with most politicians is they focus on being elected / re-elected instead of as JA says make the case.

    • @leehighland5435
      @leehighland5435 Před měsícem +1

      His beloved Tory party is all he cares about, that is whay I can't stand him anymore.

  • @freddieallen2088
    @freddieallen2088 Před měsícem

    I struggle to understand why this man was dumped in favour of Starmer, Rayner, Dodds, Lammy, Butler, Phillips,Abbot and the rest of Labour’s mental pygmies.This man articulates with an intelligence far superior to that of those mentioned collectively,irrelevant of your own politics.

  • @bradcavanagh3092
    @bradcavanagh3092 Před měsícem +1

    His suit is way too big for him.

    • @pawelpap9
      @pawelpap9 Před měsícem +1

      And his tie too dark. I am glad there are more people like you and I, paying attention to what really matters.

  • @raddimusmcchoyber3362
    @raddimusmcchoyber3362 Před 29 dny

    What culturally, socially conservative things have the Conservative Party done since the 1960s? Apart from Section 28, and Brexit. Name anything.

  • @CSUnger
    @CSUnger Před měsícem

    Ultimately, if the people aren’t moral …

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 Před měsícem

    He makes Neil Ferguson sound like a peasant

  • @DLZBGMO
    @DLZBGMO Před měsícem +1

    Jacob and Suella are two true Tories who can save our party and country

  • @shelleyscloud3651
    @shelleyscloud3651 Před měsícem

    What about what’s ‘moral & good’ for the citizens of this country?!! Because women up and down the land are living out the ´moral & good’ effects of Welby’s sanctimonious naivety!!

  • @buffalobill2874
    @buffalobill2874 Před měsícem +1

    Try and say "coalition" like this guy 😊 (it features after 4 mins). I think he's got a cold/ flu though.

  • @SagaciousFrank
    @SagaciousFrank Před měsícem

    Can the reform? That's the issue, they changed into a Blairite party, especially since Blameron.

  • @noelhausler2911
    @noelhausler2911 Před měsícem

    Why are the Nordic countries where tax is higher and a generous safety net and are the happiest countries in the world happiness report.

  • @noelhausler2911
    @noelhausler2911 Před měsícem

    United Kingdom debt to GDP 2019 85.4% of GDP (2019) Sweden 35.1% of GDP (2019)

  • @vasilispatsalidis5683
    @vasilispatsalidis5683 Před měsícem +3

    Jacob.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @arismei
    @arismei Před měsícem

    There is no future for the whole UK

  • @CaptainGrimes1
    @CaptainGrimes1 Před měsícem

    The fact that he thinks the woke Archbishop of Canterbury is a good and holy man shows just how much out of touch he is with conservative opinion.

  • @DavidSmith-mo3dk
    @DavidSmith-mo3dk Před měsícem

    Dump the BBC licence and be free.

  • @alandouglas4959
    @alandouglas4959 Před měsícem

    he is not an mp!

  • @bosse641
    @bosse641 Před měsícem +1

    Would it not be better if Sir Jacob joined Reform ? Better for England and UK.

  • @matthewcook9404
    @matthewcook9404 Před měsícem

    Matthew 19 verse 24

  • @spezzington
    @spezzington Před měsícem

    Is Rwanda at the bottom of the channel?

  • @gusmlie
    @gusmlie Před měsícem

    So dissapointed. What about the risk to the native population. Stop using naughty traffickers. We should decide who stays and who isnt allowed. Period.

  • @MrResiman
    @MrResiman Před měsícem

    f adverts over 30 sec

  • @cnrspiller3549
    @cnrspiller3549 Před měsícem +2

    Socialists feel then think - capitalists think then feel.

    • @pmays4
      @pmays4 Před měsícem +1

      Mogg schemes, then lies.

  • @PaulGappyNorris
    @PaulGappyNorris Před měsícem +5

    Mogg simply doesn’t have a clue, he doesn’t give a toss about ‘the people’ he is only interested in being relevant. Which he isn’t.