Churchill | "Plans for D-Day" | Official Clip
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- In theaters June 2nd.
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Tensions mount for the beleaguered British Prime Minister Winston Churchill (Brian Cox) in the days leading up to infamous Allied D-Day landings in Normandy, France in June, 1944. Fearful of repeating his deadly mistakes from World War I in the Battle of Gallipoli, exhausted by years of war, plagued by depression and obsessed with his historical destiny, Churchill is reluctant to embark on the large-scale campaign, one that the entire war effort hinges upon. Clashing with his Allied political opponents U.S. General Dwight D. Eisenhower (John Slattery) and British Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery (Julian Wadham), the troubled Churchill receives support and devotion from his wife, the brilliant and unflappable Clementine Churchill (Miranda Richardson). With her strength and shrewdness, “Clemmie” halts Winston’s physical, mental spiritual collapse and inspires him on to greatness. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
It was the King who stopped Churchill going. He said "If anyone should be there it should be me." Churchill said it would be too dangerous for the King to go. The King told him if it was safe enough for him (Churchill) then it was safe enough for him (the King).
Niether went. Which was the King's point. He'd been asked to talk Winston out of going.
This was known years ago. I got this from school. I think.
Imagine what would happen if Churchill did actually go to Normandy and Germans learned about his presence...
They would redirect EVERY AVAILABLE units in the area in to practically suicide charge, just to kill him... no matter how many German soldiers would die.
Asheer Thats problably not the case
Actually, I think perhaps the King should have gone. At least it would have been more fitting than if Churchill had gone.
King George was the reigning monarch, his power for good came from symbolic actions of this kind.
Interesting to note that General Eisenhower (who was a great general) had not actually been in “real” combat, but PM Churchill had been. Just an interesting thought, not an argument for or against the actions of either man.
My Grandparents fought and lost Kin in the second World War. They fought for peace, for lands where People can go about their lives safely and where Children can be educated and grow.
There could NOT be a reason for them wanting or suffering Family deaths for then to "become" German/Nazi. Chief Rabbi Avner Echoberg-Shekelstein ... you, I believe could not be further from the truth. And what you say is disgracefull!!
the Chief Rabbi who first commented 18tengles
And then Eisenhower retired and became a partner in an advertising agency
Vastly underappreciated comment
A cheating, alcoholic advertising arrogant mad man!
From all I’ve read about Eisenhower over the years, I can’t imagine him yelling at anyone, never mind Churchill.
Yeah, this is absurd.
He did have a temper, could be quite the moody sob. He yelled at Patton, but was very patient with many including the insufferable Montgomery.
I think we all feel like this would more likely have been a calm battle of arguments and vitty comebacks made by deep thinkers rather than this.. This feels like theater, not history..
Was this Eisenhower? I thought it was just some military general, when didnt realize it was Eisernhower. I understand Churchill point, that loosing so many men is stupid, when they could have invaded from some west side beach, where less german resistance, so not so many british soldiers die to machine gun fier, but the allies still won the war after so many casulties, so it was still not so bad to invade Normandy.
@@ogilkes1 Patton was as big a prima donna as Montgomery so probably deserved being yelled at. Montgomery, Eisenhower would probably have loved to yell at him but couldn’t due to political constraints. Ironically both Patton and Montgomery were far better battlefield commanders than Eisenhower, but Eisenhower was a master at man management and inter allied politics and was exactly the right man to lead the allied European effort (Alexander could have done just as good a job, but seeing as the US were supplying more men and materiel to the effort, the position had to go to a US commander).
I read Eisenhower’s diary before bed. It’s better than sleeping pills. This is not accurate.
Churchill did get to urinate upk the westwall dragons teeth however..
He did want to go, but it was the king that said no
Eisenhower went to the King and the King said “if he goes, I go!” And when Churchill found out, he decided not to go.
@zerocool1344 the King didn't say no he said if it was safe for Churchill then it was safe enough for him and that's what got him to change his mind.
in reality, Eisenhower was more calm in demeanor... too much drama in this scene lollz
agree !
Yes. Agree. This is “Hollywood history” ......written by “drama first - who cares about facts”
Eisenhower was calm but he had a terrible temper, this actually wouldn't be entirely inaccurate. A bit over the top but not as much as you might think.
cell pat if it was Patton he would have been like well why the hell are you coming to me your the damn prime minister Patton would have said this cause he thought an officer should fight with his men he and the desert fox Erwin Rommel shared the same ideas
How do you know? Were you there?
I was warned off of this movie by the reviews. They seem to have been accurate. I don't think this conversation is historically correct, however, Churchill did want to observe the landings from a British warship and was quite adamant about it. Ike, seeing to other course, went over his head to the king. The king smiled indulgently and told Ike not to worry, he would handle Winston. The next time they met, he asked Churchill about his plan. He didn't object to it, he just said that if the Prime Minister was going, then so was he. Churchill was trapped. He couldn't forbid the king from sailing on one of his own ships, so Churchill bowed out.
Yeah there's a movie called Darkest Hour where Gary Oldman impeccably plays Churchill. The acting here is 2nd tier.
@@abstractdaddy1384 Oh, yes, Darkest Hour came out about the same time as Churchill, but it is absolutely excellent.
Not even close to a decent recreation of Winston or Ike at all....also takes away from the moment. I think the closest actor ever that played Ike was Henry Grace in "The Longest Day" albeit a very small scene
This feels like a cheesy in game cut scene.
No cheese in this scene
I dont recall a video game with such good acting
@@VoiceintheRadio you call that good?
Yeh Brian Cox might be a decent actor but he's not doing a very good Churchill here, too many actors have done it better than him.
agree
Typical American general stereotype where he says “goddamn” every 10 seconds
Give 3 examples other than this one.
murica won the war god damn it, you'd be speaking god damn kraut if it wasn't for us, dangnabbit
Goddamn right! If Ike was pissed, your right, he'd say that. He didn't tolerate BS. He was an incredible leader and later President.
yeah and changed the tide of WW2. People forget about history
@Unknown2234 Unknown Well the one thing Hitler feared the most was America's industrial capacity. His own admirals were even asking him to declare war on the US and allow them to sink ships carrying the lend lease supplies that effectively saved UK's ass in WW2.
I have never felt such kinship with my british fore fathers as i do now, god bless winston churchill and every briton who fell in that damned war
Winston was 100% a warrior, he fought in the last British calvery charge.
Mom was American!
Last cavalry charge too 😂.
@@BobJohnson648 so? Dad was British. lol.
Ah yes, the calvery
No way Ike talked like that to Winston.
Worse I think
Na he didn't talk like that to anyone.
Ike needed to be very diplomatic in dealing with the egos of the British.
Ike was great at being diplomatic but always getting what he wanted without pissing anyone off. Perfect guy for the job.
Sure did. Actually, for several months Churchill did not believe that Overlord was a viable plan - he saw it as both overly dangerous and unnecessary to confront the Germans in a theatre where they were strong and had to be expected to have dug in powerfully. He wanted the same kind of solution he had tried and failed with in WW1 (Gallipoli!): a side invasion on some coastline in the Med. They gave him that, but Sicily /South Italy failed to pay off and lead to any serious advance up through Italy, so after that Churchill's "soft underbelly" approach was overruled. He was fairly late to the party when it came to believing in D-Day.
Few things. Churchill was very admirable to want to lead his men into battle. In the first war wasn't he doing the same thing "fighting the war from their arm chairs". But his point stands commanders must lead the men at the front.
Yes and no. After the failure of the Gallipoli campaign, a project of he's own creation, he resigned from government and became an officer in the army, serving in the Western front.
Those guys don't look or sound like Churchill and Eisenhower.
because Eisenhower and Churchill are Dead , Or would you like shitty american makeup to make them look just like them instead of 2 brilliant actors
He sounds like Hermann goering
Conor Mahoney ... which he (Churchill) played as well... some flic about the Nuremberg-trials...
@@ericheuvel7864 makes sense lol. Tha is for clearing that up
Yea this is terrible, especially Eisenhower you can tell he is acting
May not be historically accurate but it gets people interested and has incredible acting
"The only problem with the movie-written by the historian Alex von Tunzelmann-is that it gets absolutely everything wrong. Never in the course of movie-making have so many specious errors been made in so long a film by so few writers.
The major error of fact, of course, is that although Churchill did indeed oppose an over-hasty return of Allied forces to northwest France in 1942 and 1943, by the time of D-Day in 1944, he was completely committed to the operation."
- Andrew Roberts, historian
He learned it the hard way.
I find Mr. Roberts' claim here less than believable. Churchill's worries about the D-Day invasion are well known and he was still talking about a strike into the Balkans well past when it was possible to change or stop Overlord. While Churchill was publically supportive, it is a reach to suggest that he was 'completely committed' to D-Day even if he felt he had no choice but to go along with it. And, as an aside, Roberts is not a very good historian, the superficial nature of this quote being an example of how he really doesn't know the subjects he talks about nearly as well as he thinks.
I was during the movie like...."Who made this movie and what was he/she thinking?"
Who made this rubbish?
The film or these comments?
I watched this cause I have been on the Belfast she is a beautiful ship
True. In London, if you all want to see a WW2 cruiser close up.
I think it was King George VI who pointed out the absurdity of Churchill going with the D-Day landing.
Just watched the Darkest hour and now will watch this. Point. Never surrender.
a man who can play Herman Goering just as well as Churchill.
Great viewing is Eisenhower being interviewed on the 20th anniversary of Dday by Walter Kronkite. It’s an hour long doc and they go back to Normandy where Ike explains this story beautifully. Much better than this movie scene. I strongly recommend the doco which is easily found on CZcams.
Churchill was the real man. I named my english bulldog after him. The man was irreplaceable.
Why isn’t there politicians like Churchill any more. A prime minister an ex soldier willing to go to battle with his men rather than sit safe hundreds of miles away. Churchill has in spades what no other politician has In Westminster......honour.
It seems now-a-days everything is clouded by politics. Voters seem to only notice if a candidate is democrat or republican, not if they have military experience, common sense and honor.
Anyone heard of the British legend, British Army Officers don't duck, this is largely to show their own men fearlessness in the battlefield. I like to think Churchill was like that, while he was an officer in WW1
churchill a most brave man of history
It wasn't Eisenhower who had this conversation, and it wasn't this heated. When Churchill (and the King) informed Admiral Bertram Ramsay (commander of D-Day's naval forces) of their plan, he flatly told them he would not be responsible for their safety. When pressed he calmly stated that the HMS Belfast would be at risk of attack, were both the PM and King to die the by chance the government would be thrown into chaos, and that in the event the landings went poorly they would serve the troops better by being in decision making centres as opposed to the front lines.
The last 10 seconds hits you like a ton of bricks though....
Fun Fact: George II was the last British monarch to command troops in battle. Ironically, they were fighting in Germany.
Howard Stark yelling at Churchill? Amazing
From people that knew them both. Said they became good friends. But Ike went behind Churchills back and spoke to the King who Ike would have lunches with sometimes and asked him to TELL Churchill he will not be going with the troops.
The greatest leader we've ever had
A warmonger nothing else
>Vuples Inculta account calling someone else a war monger.
Vulpes Inculta you do realise Churchill didn't take us into the War?
Jack Star
>"We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." - Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast)
>"Germany becomes to powerful. We have to crush it." - Winston Churchill (November 1936 to US-General
Robert E. Wood)
Oh really?
Jack Star Are you denying the fact that Churchill was a fat ass warmonger piece of shit? Can you stop avoiding the argument? You just need to accept he was a warmonger lol, a lier read some fucking history books. Keep believing what they tell you in biased allied history books.
Churchill gets that boldness from his ancestor the Duke of Marlborough who was a great military commander.
And his mom was AMERICAN!
@@BobJohnson648 and his Dad was British. Your poinrt?
@@mariahoulihan9483 some boldness may be from his mom...
the general in Roger Sterling from MAD MEN
This is the most painful thing I've ever seen.
well you know, Hollywood has to always make things "more" than they really were.
admirable sentiments on Winston's part, too many people would have tried to defend this old man.
I worked with a man who was on Sicily with the Big Red One. He praised the HG Division for their tenacity.
Really hard for me to take Roger Sterling seriously as Ike.
Fact: The man who plays Churchill played Goring in Nuremberg movie from 2003
Two Strong Performances of two remarkable men. Just watched 'Darkest Hour' tonight... will have to watch this to contrast the performances of Winnie but Brian Cox seems to have done a fine job.
Not a British fan by any stretch of the imagination BUT Sir Winston is the embodiment of what a leader should strive to become. That type of determination is nearly unstoppable.
I recently read that when he was a small boy he wrote an essay at school.. and I think we all are aware he got bad marks at school... but in it he wrote that when he was older he knew he would be called upon to 'protect London'. He said words to the effect, I will protect London who will be under attack from a large army'. Pretty foretelling of the future.. even if it was the imagination of a small boy.
Brian Cox one of the greats.
God bless Churchill.
The range of the actor Brian Cox is quite astounding. He played Churchill, Göring, Hannibal Lecter
Every scene in this movie, they're all screaming at each other😂😂😂
This was filmed at Calton Hill in Edinburgh!
MacArthur said it best. "Eisenhower was the best clerk I ever had".
There is no way this happened. Hard to watch actually
no no it did happen this part is true.
It pretty much happened, but not with the hysteria and temper on either side. Churchill was haunted by the memory of earlier British disasters, but he would not have should this kind of emotion to Eisenhower. Eisenhower did not talk to politicians in this manner. He understood that soldiers have to serve and respect civilian leaders for democracy to prevail. But he sure as hell was thinking this. Eventually, George V got Churchill to back down by insisting that he would have to be just as far forward as his prime minister.
Midland Redux
Kings lead their people into battle.
Three hundred years ago. In Europe. By two hundred years ago, it had gone out of fashion. The job of leading armies was too important to be left to the offhand chance that a king might have the talent for the job.
Okay, that is ABSOLUTELY not true. The British put off even planning the operation properly until 1943, when the Americans forced them to commit fully in exchange for supporting their plans for the invasion of Italy. Frederick Morgan, a genius-level British staff officer, did fine work putting together the command team, but it was strictly on the basis of equality between American and British officers at every level. The only two men seriously considered for the top spot were Americans George Marshall and Dwight Eisenhower. Churchill knew perfectly well the majority of the men and material would be American. He also knew that this the Americans would not tolerate a British commander for the greatest military operation in their history, especially after the British generals had been fighting a cross-channel operation since December of 1941.
You could tell who was American and who was British
Dictionary god damn!
No they were both British actors lol.
Dictionary can you now?
That’s weird since no one in that scene is American
@@Alucard-gt1zf Maybe there's a joke I'm not getting, but Eisenhower was American, and the actor that plays him, John Slattery, is American too.
It took the king to stop Churchill going by saying that it should be the king who goes
Awesome
Churchill never left the band on his cigars.
Brian ox emoting as usual
That's a brave man.
Respect from Indonesia 🤝
Churchill had the balls to into hell with his men and didn’t care for his own safety, now that’s a man I respect on the field of combat.
I love this.
I thought Roger Sterling served in the Pacific.
Haha
Now that's true leadership. A man or woman willing to do what they are ordering their subordinates to do
i found darkest hour really good
I love churchhill
Churchill could have told Ike, “I didn’t need to tell you my plans.””
Love the Scottish accent slip with the pronunciation of ‘armchair’
I like the exchange...
If this wasn't supposed to be an actual moment in history I would be okay with it.
But there is no way this happened in the manner depicted here.
One small question: where was this scene shot? Strange looking, shows a row of columns out in the middle of nowhere. I know that's only part of the scene, but, where?
The churchill here played herman goering in nuremberg
Lolll the actor playing Churchill I'm pretty sure played Goring in the movie nuremberg loll that's all I see
I didn´t see the movie,but I have the book and I´m going to read it soon.The actor who plays Churchill played G oring part in the movie Nuremberg,a movie about the Nuremberg Judgement of the nazis criminals.He is a great actor.
That isn’t how Ike was
Eisenhower was humble and calm in his demeanor
Holy shit! Scolar Visari looks pretty alive!!!
Secrecy is, I grant you, important, and London may indeed have been full of prying listeners, but it still seems surprising that Eisenhower and Churchill would take the four hour train journey north to Edinburgh to hold this conversation on Calton Hill.
+endie99 In 1944 the train journey from London to Edinburgh would have taken 6 and a half hours, not 4. Trains have speeded up since the 40s. And in any case, why choose to film the scene in Edinburgh? Doesn't make any sense...
I have seen this on pictures,this film is disrespecting mr Churchill.
Nice reference to hms Belfast u can vibe on that ship
There was a time when the leaders of nations lead their own men into battle. It showed bravery and it was an act that told the troops they could trust their leaders. Now, however, the leaders of nations are often seen as too important and too indispensable to be risked in battle. Also it would be a great blow to the nation's moral to lose their leader like that. But, it's awesome to think about. By the way, the king of Jordan did recently go into battle against the Islamic State along with his men. It was a bombing mission and not all too dangerous, but the principle was the same. Imagine if the President of the United States did that. It would be awesome, but it would never happen.
this is not even how General Eisenhower talked to P.M. Winston
didn't this guy play Herman Goring in the movie Nuemburg?
He didn’t really look or act like Eisenhower but still a cool scene
How to sound like an American soldier 101: Say goddamn as part of every conceivable sentence
Ike never cursed like that especially in front of a world leader
Churchill is a fucking beast
Wasn’t Churchill the actor from Nuremberg that played Herman goring?
Other than being overweight, the actor neither looks nor sounds anything like Churchill.
Council13 well we couldn’t get his fucking identical twin could we now?
Alucard he looks like Winston as much as Dwayne the rock Johnson does. The casting is horrendous
Isn't it usually?
Alucard the other Churchill movie “the darkest hour” was much more accurate in portraying him.
@@robot-he6nq And Albert Finny in The Gathering Storm was the best Churchill of all.
It's funny because Brian Cox actually played Reichmarshall Goering in Nuremburg
This confrontation did not happen.
Eisenhower was at his naval head quarters at Southwick House, which is near Fareham, in Hampshire, when he was informed of Churchill's plan to be on board HMS Belfast by (probably) Admiral Ramsey and so rather than argue with Churchill, he simply spoke with the king.
What is the Churchills actors name? Because he has played Churchill and Goering.
Eisenhover is the real hero, when he got in office, worked away every situation where there was a risk of war. He anf Grant was the only Presidents to do that.
Even the germans loves CHIRCHILL who doesnt !?
What are they doing in Edinburgh?
"Hey, Ike it's Churchill. Let's meet tomorrow noon at the Roman columns to discuss WW2".
+Tommy Two-shoes
Those Roman columns are in Edinburgh. Why on earth did they decide to film there?
Wow who knew Goering was Winston in disguise this whole time.
Great actors but I cannot unsee Agamemnon and Roger Sterling in every scene
1:19 Gallipoli Churchill... Gallipoli. You were one of those people...#
Hence why he felt the need to go. He was a very cautious man after the gallipoli disaster. After that, it changed his outlook on war.
wow
the planning waz important!! ---Ike.
Take a shot every time Ike says Goddamn
So Churchill was Irish and Eisenhower was a rude foul mouthed martinet??
Just when the revisionists completed their revisions, it’s time to revise again...
Some pretty bad acting there. Geez. And who wrote that dialog for Ike? I didn't recall him having that kind of mouth.
Patton maybe but not Ike
Ike did curse from time to time.
@@matthewmorrison8611 Not like that though.
"You're NOT a GODDAMN commander!"
What program or show did this come from
I don't think that there was ever quite this confrontation. Churchill got a a it petulant about this but mostly with Alanbrooke and the COS. Ultimately the King stopped him by announcing that if Churchill went he would have to do so too.
Why is Göring in the UK?