Here's how they made the train move in 'Petticoat Junction'
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To me, Petticoat Junction was never the same after Bea Benedaret died.
I always thought the beverly hillbillies kinda wasnt the same after she left
@@thebeverlyhillbilliesfacts2663 I missed Pearl,too.She was such a a hit on that show Henning created Petticoat Junction as a star vehicle for her.
Bea did a great job but Dr.Janet Craig did a wonderful job & the show was still very good after Bea!
@@tzzlite June Lockhart was good,but I still consider the difference after Bea Benedaret died.A resident adult was not the same as a mother.I also watched after she died,but it was never the same
Floyd, how much pressure we runnin’?
I don’t know, Charlie. The needle’s up where there ain’t no numbers.
Forget the train! I was a bigger fan of the water tower and swimming with the girls 😂
Lol
The water tower from the opening burned in a fire along with the back to the future 3 set.
@@shawndmiles6747 It should be noted that the fire that burned the set occurred years after the movie was completed.
@@skydiverclassc2031 True. I helped deliver firewood to the movie set and later helped cut the logs that were on the flat car into firewood. The Petticoat junction set was also used in an episode of the A-team.
"...lots of _curves,_ you bet!
'n' even more,
when you get...
to the junction---
_PETTICOAT_ Junction!"
Sierra Railroad #3. A Fully functioning steam locomotive built by Rogers and Cook for the P&AC in Arizona. Sold to Sierra and used for decades. Engine was finally retired in 1996 due to the boiler. It was no plastic model in the TV show. Now the car interior sets may have been shaken for movement, but the actual train, not.
It has now been fully restored to running condition.
Too bad the audio is horrible.
Everyone knows that The Cannonball was going to Pixley!
Did the Cannonball ever go anywhere other than between Hooterville & Pixley, I don't remember if it did....
@@JohnPotts-kq7kk Yes, it also went to Bugtussle (sp), home of The Clampet family.
It was always going to Pixley..😅
My wife’s grand father hated the opening scene with the engine blowing all the black smoke. I asked him one day why? He told me that he was a former fireman on Canadian pacific steam engines back in the 1940s/50s, he said that black smoke meant that the engine hadn’t been fired properly and given a chance to warm up. He said that whoever the crew was were going to wreck that engine.
Yup, cold fire.... someone got behind and overshot the mark.
They let it smoke for the camera
Gotta keep in mind they were ofter burning railroad ties, which are soaked in creasote.
Even current engineers "smoke it up" for spectators even though they can burn clean
The old engine was getting tired by this time. It has been rebuilt since. Google "Sierra No 3"
Charlie Pratt and Floyd Smoot were perfect for playing the Cannonball crew as everyone else in the cast was also.
The closeup combine car was a mock up as was the cab for closeups. The train is actual 1890s Sierra#3 for stock shots which had just completed the series "Casey Jones" with Alan Hale Jr. As the Cannonball.
The actual train was in Big Valley, Rifleman, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, WW West and several other series.
Last major film was Back to the Future III.
A model of the train was mfg in the mid 60s by Tyco-Mantua as the Petticoat Junction Cannonball set and The Dixie Belle. It is in the diorama in the show's distance shots looking at the Shady Rest in the last 4 seasons.
Also an effects miniature of the train was built by Richard C. Datin, who also did miniatures for Jolly Green Giant commercials, and built the Enterprise for Star Trek, and was involved in the founding of the Nevada State Railroad Museum.
@@scottfw7169 that's the model Mantua used as their runs in 65 or 66 to replace their The General Civil War sets and Wild West sets with The General. The Rogers the VFX modeller built was well out of scale to HO trains...but Mantua went with it as they could get their motor in the steam boiler instead of fitting it in the tender and running a rod.
Actually,, the ole #3 loco had a rich history of showing in several films including Back to the Future 3. It has been restored and is in operation in CA
One of MY favorite facts about some of the old shows, is that Flat & Scruggs sang the songs to Petticoat Junction AND Beverly Hillbillies, and both songs were written by Paul Henning. Now THAT is awesome trivia.
I Did Not Know Paul Henning Wrote Them But Lester Flatt & Earl Scruggs Did Not Sing The Opening Theme To The Beverly Hillbillies. Thank You.
Curt massy was petticoat junction
Jerry Scoggins sang the "Ballad of Jed Clampett", the opening theme song for The Beverly Hillbillies. Flat and Scruggs played the instruments for the song.
The train from Petticoat Junction is a real locomotive located at Railtown 1987 State Historic Park in California.
I believe you mean 1897.
Yes it is a 1892 Rodgers locomotive.
@@calsurflance5598 1891
The locomotive Sierra #3 is one of Hollywood's most enduring stars, with a career spanning from silent westerns to the final Back To The Future film. Today it may be seen at Railtown State Park in Jamestown, California.
I worked with Edgar Buchanan's son, Buck, for a few years at EarthLink Network, an early ISP. Very personable guy and an excellent storyteller.
Love love love petticoat junction
Great video. I loved Petticoat Junction. Cast was great. God Bless you 🙏
Melanie
Always watched & enjoyed Petticoat Junction. Very good show
It seems according to surviving cast and crew the exact same train was used for Wild Wild West. Ross Martin actually confirmed this in an interview.
The replica locomotive from Ticket to Tomahawk is on Display in Durango CO. it is in fact made of wood; it is a replica of Rio Grande Southern # 20 which was the real locomotive used in Ticket to Tomahawk in required scenes; it was purchased as a historical stand in for D&RGW 315 which has been restored to operation and was on display in Durango for many years after being used in movie Around the World in Eighty Days. While the replica may have been featured in close up shots the long shots showing the entire train are Sierra Railroad #3. This locomotive is regarded as the most famous locomotive in the world because it appeared and still appears in many Films and T.V. shows. Back to the Future for example. It is the loco shown in color in this video. It is in operation to this day on the Sierra Railroad in California.
My big surprise was that Al Bundy never tried to move into town 😊.
That old engine's been in more westerns than John Wayne, Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea!
Sounds like the old stagecoach trick
Great trivia with this one!. Thanks, Bob.
Thanks Al
As has been noted, there is a real Hooterville Cannonball (Sierra #3), just as there is a real Polar Express (Pere Marquette 1225). There is also a connection between the two. While 1225 provided most of the sound for the Polar Express, the whistle sound is from none other than Sierra #3. I should also note the #3 played a part in the fairly short lived TV series "Iron Horse", which I enjoyed thoroughly as an 11 year old kid. There were lots of shootouts, fights. explosions and lots of appearances by #3.
I loved Iron Horse when l was around 11 yrs old too. I had such a crush on 'Roy Calhoun'. Very few people l ask remember it.
When I was smoking pot in the mid 70s we'd always laugh and say we we're going to Hooterville because we called joints hooters lol 👍🇺🇸
Lol
Always enjoyed the opening scene of the show.
I always loved the Cannonball, especially liked the Cannonball Christmas train episode, the train decorated for Christmas & Bedlowe dressed as Santa Claus.....
They actually had two Christmas episodes using virtually the same script - one in black and white, and one in color. Bedloe was dressed as Santa at the end of the first one. He was dressed as an elf at the end of the second one. I enjoy watching them, too.
@@bodontknowsuperbowl THANK YOU for reminding me! Here it is the middle of May & I Just finished watching both the color & black/white Cannonball Christmas episodes! Not sure which I like best....ah, the childhood memories.....
The sierra #3 was not used in Ticket to Tomahawk. RGS #20 was. There was also a fiberglass movie prop made, that is on display in Durango CO. RGS #20 currently operates at the Colorado Railroad Museum. Sierra #3 is a standard gauge loco. RGS 20 is narrow gauge.
Thank you! I was about to make the same comment. Unfortunately, one must take information provided by the internet with a grain of salt.
That sounds like something they would do in Hooterville.
Well! You ruined that for me. 😆 🤣 It was real! 😭 Good to know Bob.
Poor Kate. Yes! She was in Hooterville. And the train was going to Pixly! That poor woman. Not knowing that. 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Edgar Buchanan was a dentist and once had a dental practice in Oregon. When he started acting, he let his wife run the practice (she was a dentist too).
The locomotive shown at the beginning of the show was on display for many years at the Hoyt Hotel in Portland. When the Hoyt closed years ago, I don't know where the locomotive went.
I love that show petty co junction
As a kid, the train was the only reason I watched the show!
That and Betty Jo.
Oh yes, Linda Henning was absolutely gorgeous!!!
@@tfs4499 Still is
What a great CZcams channel! Great job Bob!
Thanks Steven
When you said " move," I had visions of Hooterville to Kankakee, not sideways. My favourite was Geenacres.
Anyhow, all the best from Western Australia.
Interesting information Bob, loved the show. Haven't seen it for a long time. :)
I always enjoyed watching petticoat junction. It was so funny how the mean spirited rr excutive homer bedlow was always trying but could never succeed to shut down the hooterville cannonball. Always liked the 3 young ladies that worked at the shadey rest hotel.And then there was uncle joe movin kinda slow at the junction.
Praise The Lord!
every day.
Thanks Bob ...😎😎😎😎😎 I wish to add WHO's going to fill their shoes ? I doubt if anyone can .....How time flys
Nice video. Thought you’d like to know- her name is pronounced “Ben-a-dair-et.”
I read somewhere that the actual train was in Oregon.
In the opening scenes of some of these that trains move down the track. But they must have copped that from another movie! That is movie Magic
If memory serves, Hooterville was the end of the train tracks. When it departed, the locomotive was at the rear. Don't remember where the line originated.
Higgins is my all-time favorite Hollywood actor.
Just like Uncle Joe, the Cannonball was movin' kind of slow.
Sorry...the plastic train was an on set prop...all the distant and moving shots were on the Sierra railroad (now railtaown) using a actual locomotive, sierra Ry #3
you can ride the actual train and see the water tower in Jamestown near Sonora California
It was filmed in James Town ca.
Honey, come quick, this thumb is talking.
I wonder if that's the same train that was used on the Casey Jones TV show a few years earlier?
It's was dropping off Lisa and Oliva at Drucker's General Store.
The Engine is in Jamestown Calif being rebuilt
Thanks
The restoration of Sierra 3 is complete. It is in regular service at the Jamestown State Park in California. It’s an old Hollywood prop. Its last starring movie role was in Back To The Future III. If memory serves, it was built in 1890. Some of the shots in Petticoat Junction and Green Acres are of the real thing. There is at least one run-by shot that is an O scale model. The train interior shots are a full scale mockup. It is owned by the Barbary Coast Hotel in Portland, Oregon.
@@bcgrittner I remember the credits at the end saying Barbary Coast Hotel
@@robchit1 Correct-but that is the non-functional stage mock-up. As long as the Barbary Coast Hotel was mentioned in the closing credits, the fee to the studio was little or nothing.
Remember the scene: Floyd, how much pressure we runnin?
I don’t know, Charlie. The needle’s up where there ain’t no numbers.
the locomotive that the actors were in was made for a movie called A Ticket to Tomahawk.
it is a copy of Rio Grande Southern #20 and the copy's home is in Durango Colorado.
the home of rio grande southern #20 is at the Colorado Railroad Museum.
Pixley was a town on southern Pacific rr south of Jamestown rr which was used for the opening credits
Plastic train - ingenious!
Funny show that's Uncle Joe 🤣😄😄😄
Theirs not a single show on the 4 main networks that I watch,I wish their was a way you could only pay for the channels you watched
I liked green acres best, Beverly hillbillies second and petticoat junction last, i just never connection with junction like i did the other shows
Learn to speak Benaderet! It's not Ben a der ray. It's Ben-a-der-et!
You forgot to add that some of the shots were of a highly detailed model for night shots
Also the same train appears on GREEN ACRES, THE WILD WEST , THE IRON HORSE , and in a couple of episodes of THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES ( the clampets returned to the country episodes)
Anybody know other tv shows this train is in ???
Casey Jones starring Alan Hale, Jr. (yeah, the Skipper).
@@bcgrittner your kidding!! Had to look it up real fast , didn't know that !!
... wonder if his" little buddy " was with him ! 🤔 🤔 🤔
@@josephmatthews9866 I was pretty young at the time. So was Bob Denver. Alan Hale, Jr did guest star on the Andy Griffith show years ago. He kept slapping Barney on the back and calling him”Little Buddy”. Much laughter.
Wasn't this the same train used in The Wild, Wild West?
The One That was on the Sound Stage may have been made of lumber and Doorskin which is a very thin sheet of wood thinner than Plywood
NOT PLASTIC
The REAL ONE was in the Jamestown RAILROAD Museum in Tuolumne California
The water tower that was used with the girls in the opening scene was torn down over 20 years ago it was also at the Jamestown RAILROAD Museum
I rode on it when I was a kid
The passenger car which was a combine is still there
20 years ago I had a younger cousin who worked there restoring the steam engines
The shots used for The Hooterville Cannonball was a live steam engine
The large curve in the railroad tracks that was called in the TV show as Dead Man's Curve in real life was called the Chinaman's Curve
Don't give me this crap that it was fake.
I lived in Tuolumne County and Tuolumne the town for the best part of 8 years when I was a kid I know what the hell I'm talking about and I still have cousins that live there
Half of my family worked for West Side Lumber in Tuolumne California
My Grandpa was the Union Rep for Westside
Other TV Shows Shot there
Lassie , Bonanza , Highway to Heaven , train shots for the TV show Lone Ranger and several other Western TV shows and movies like " High Noon " back in the 50s and 60s
You actually did not do very much research did you
I enjoyed petticoat junction!t thanks for 😊
I believe in the opening credits the train came from portland oregon ...
I think... whatever that's worth... people are getting the train "made of plastic" and the locomotive mixed up here.
The "train" refers to the passenger car. Not the locomotive.
Plastic boiler.
Wheels plastic belted.
Fire it up... the whole thing melted.
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I always thought that Bea Benedaret was far better suited for Beverly hillbillies, she was and absolute riot on that show whereas anyone could have played her character on petticoat junction. 🤷♂️
Wow! 15K people wanted to know how the Cannonball moved? I knew I couldn't be the only Petticoat Junction fan around. 😁
I was shocked myself
@@@thebeverlyhillbilliesfacts2663
I bet you were. CZcams is a mystery 🤔
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I thought it was sitting North of Birmingham.
Wait! That train didn't actually move?!? 😥
The answer is at 1:42.
Don't waste your time watching the whole thing.
Interesting ... but your audio is awful
Might be on your end. No one else having issues
@@thebeverlyhillbilliesfacts2663 Uh....people are polite. Maybe redo your video and FIX the garbled audio? Ruins an otherwise great video.
@@thebeverlyhillbilliesfacts2663 Sorry it was a little garbled
I guess I didn't watch the show that much. I remember it, but have no memory of a train being in it at all. So this was interesting.
The train was the whole purpose for the water tower in the show’s opening credits. The train stopped to top off its water tank from the trackside water tower.
Bea Benaderet's name was pronounced Ben-a-DER-et, not BEN-a-der-ay.
And someone else told me the opposite in a post a few months ago...it is what it is i guess
Jeannine Riley left the show to make it big in the movies, but didn't. The biker movie she was in was pretty good.
But how about all those scenes we see the Cannonball moving ON the tracks? That's not a plastic train.
According to the comments, from what I can gather, it was a real train but there was a fake cab for close up shots.
Per the grapevine- The runby shot in the opening credits with no smoke and no steam was an O scale model.
Sorry 😢, but Railfans Unite and give this guy Real history railroad lesson 🤔😮!!!
Look up the flintstones It is not pronounced that way.Thank you anyway entertaining